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WMG pages can be Spoilers Off as well. I think it's for consistency's sake to apply it here and add the header just like what's done with the other spoilers-off pages of this game.


'''As a Wild Mass Guessing subpage, all spoilers are unmarked [[Administrivia/SpoilersOff as per policy.]] Administrivia/YouHaveBeenWarned.'''



* The New Brush Gods are children of the old ones, but some new ones which have never shown before appears. As for Chibi [[spoiler:Ushiwaka may have foreseen the need to send a God to fight out the remnants of Yami's darkness that were unleashed on his defeat, but since Ammy was busy he may have proposed she creates a child of her own and to split her Brush Gods in lite portions for her son to use, while he would work on a Vessel of Light to contain the remnant of darkness.]]

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* The New Brush Gods are children of the old ones, but some new ones which have never shown before appears. As for Chibi [[spoiler:Ushiwaka Ushiwaka may have foreseen the need to send a God to fight out the remnants of Yami's darkness that were unleashed on his defeat, but since Ammy was busy he may have proposed she creates a child of her own and to split her Brush Gods in lite portions for her son to use, while he would work on a Vessel of Light to contain the remnant of darkness.]]
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Ninetails can [[spoiler: shapeshift, as seen in the second arc of Okami. It killed Rao and took her form,]] but only killed her because leaving her alive would ruin its ruse. It's plausible that it would be working with or alongside Orochi to choose the sacrifices. Messing with the Kamiki villager's heads and Shiranui's plans were just an added bonus. It had always been working for [[spoiler: Yami, the Ruler of Darkness,]] but helped Orochi out for kicks since they were both demons.
* [[spoiler:Shiranui just happened to appear whenever a new sacrificial maiden was chosen, which screwed with people's mind and made them believe Shiranui was Orochi's demon sent to check on the sacrificial maiden. So it was just an unfortunate timing of his.]]

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Ninetails can [[spoiler: shapeshift, as seen in the second arc of Okami. It killed Rao and took her form,]] form, but only killed her because leaving her alive would ruin its ruse. It's plausible that it would be working with or alongside Orochi to choose the sacrifices. Messing with the Kamiki villager's heads and Shiranui's plans were just an added bonus. It had always been working for [[spoiler: Yami, the Ruler of Darkness,]] Darkness, but helped Orochi out for kicks since they were both demons.
* [[spoiler:Shiranui Shiranui just happened to appear whenever a new sacrificial maiden was chosen, which screwed with people's mind and made them believe Shiranui was Orochi's demon sent to check on the sacrificial maiden. So it was just an unfortunate timing of his.]]
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The Moon People are characterized as a technologically advanced race, yet aren't explicitly identified as villans (Waka's more of a Trickster Mentor at worst, and Kaguya is a textbook Oujo). Their worst act-[[spoiler: bringing the youkai to Earth in the first place]]-happened by accident: [[spoiler: Waka forgot to check what was actually ON the Ark before mounting a rescue of the Celestial Plains. For all we know, the Moon People were just going to launch it into the void]]. Waka's Tao Troopers work to do good in the world, and have no problems using tech to do so (look at all the computers in their base). The old inventor in Seian City tinkering with precursor tech is a perfectly amiable guy; heck, helping him fix the clock tower BOOSTS Amaterasu's holy powers in the form of upgrading her lightning powers. There's just too many examples of good tech users to justify saying that science is completely bad. Just as Issun warns about relying too much on the gods for help, Yami's appearance [[spoiler: an almost fetal creature in an unholy mech suit]] warns about going too far in the opposite direction: becoming too reliant on one's own works and losing faith in spiritual aspects like hope, mercy, and compassion. Unfortunately, the game designers failed to properly clarify this aspect of the aesop.

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The Moon People are characterized as a technologically advanced race, yet aren't explicitly identified as villans (Waka's more of a Trickster Mentor at worst, and Kaguya is a textbook Oujo). Their worst act-[[spoiler: bringing act-bringing the youkai to Earth in the first place]]-happened place-happened by accident: [[spoiler: Waka forgot to check what was actually ON the Ark before mounting a rescue of the Celestial Plains. For all we know, the Moon People were just going to launch it into the void]].void. Waka's Tao Troopers work to do good in the world, and have no problems using tech to do so (look at all the computers in their base). The old inventor in Seian City tinkering with precursor tech is a perfectly amiable guy; heck, helping him fix the clock tower BOOSTS Amaterasu's holy powers in the form of upgrading her lightning powers. There's just too many examples of good tech users to justify saying that science is completely bad. Just as Issun warns about relying too much on the gods for help, Yami's appearance [[spoiler: an almost fetal creature in an unholy mech suit]] suit warns about going too far in the opposite direction: becoming too reliant on one's own works and losing faith in spiritual aspects like hope, mercy, and compassion. Unfortunately, the game designers failed to properly clarify this aspect of the aesop.



After Yami was defeated, technology moved on it's own, he eventually got sealed in a movie, the people who did this thought that movies would never catch on, but when they did, they desperately tried hiding what they now called the "Black Film", which eventually made its way into the hands of [[spoiler: Jet Black]].

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After Yami was defeated, technology moved on it's own, he eventually got sealed in a movie, the people who did this thought that movies would never catch on, but when they did, they desperately tried hiding what they now called the "Black Film", which eventually made its way into the hands of [[spoiler: Jet Black]].Black.



He's given new power after his constellation is drawn, and is the only boss who can draw on canvas. His brush technique is duplication. He moved the Island by re-drawing it somewhere else on a whim, which is why it was impossible to find. It also explains [[spoiler: how he duplicated a copy of Rao to get back the Fox Rods, and why Rao never runs out of prayer slips during the sunken ship.]] He was banished for being too powerful/malicious, after all, he could duplicate any of the other gods' techniques (including Amaterasu's).

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He's given new power after his constellation is drawn, and is the only boss who can draw on canvas. His brush technique is duplication. He moved the Island by re-drawing it somewhere else on a whim, which is why it was impossible to find. It also explains [[spoiler: how he duplicated a copy of Rao to get back the Fox Rods, and why Rao never runs out of prayer slips during the sunken ship.]] ship. He was banished for being too powerful/malicious, after all, he could duplicate any of the other gods' techniques (including Amaterasu's).



** Chibi learns this "cancelling" power later on in the game when [[spoiler: fighting Akuro]]...

* Ninetails tricked Ammy into giving him a bit of her own power, [[spoiler:possibly learning from how Himiko tricked Ninetails into consuming the Knowledge Orb, along with her soul, in order to gain enough power to be able to find the Oni Island.]]

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** Chibi learns this "cancelling" power later on in the game when [[spoiler: fighting Akuro]]...

Akuro...

* Ninetails tricked Ammy into giving him a bit of her own power, [[spoiler:possibly possibly learning from how Himiko tricked Ninetails into consuming the Knowledge Orb, along with her soul, in order to gain enough power to be able to find the Oni Island.]]
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Yami is actually [[spoiler: another creation/aspect of Izanami like Ameno-sagiri based on the perceived desires of the Moon Tribe and/or humanity.]]

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Yami is actually [[spoiler: another creation/aspect of Izanami like Ameno-sagiri based on the perceived desires of the Moon Tribe and/or humanity.]]
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* He probably got it from Ishaku, who can [[spoiler:create cracks in time]] in ''Okamiden''.

* Disproved by the end of Okami, where it reveals [[spoiler:Issun is telling a story, but he too is prone to mistakes of his own]]. Who is to say the same does not happen in Okamiden?

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* He probably got it from Ishaku, who can [[spoiler:create create cracks in time]] time in ''Okamiden''.

* Disproved by the end of Okami, where it reveals [[spoiler:Issun Issun is telling a story, but he too is prone to mistakes of his own]].own. Who is to say the same does not happen in Okamiden?



At the end of Okami, Waka and Ammy left for the Celestial Plain together, and obviously have history, even though Ammy doesn't remember it due to being reincarnated. It's entirely possible that Ammy could have a human form on the Celestial Plain, and that her memories could return as well. Waka calls her "my dear" and "baby" and waited over 200 years for her to return, which shows he cares about her. Plus, Ammy acted VERY happy to see Waka at the end after [[spoiler:his "sacrifice"]].

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At the end of Okami, Waka and Ammy left for the Celestial Plain together, and obviously have history, even though Ammy doesn't remember it due to being reincarnated. It's entirely possible that Ammy could have a human form on the Celestial Plain, and that her memories could return as well. Waka calls her "my dear" and "baby" and waited over 200 years for her to return, which shows he cares about her. Plus, Ammy acted VERY happy to see Waka at the end after [[spoiler:his "sacrifice"]].
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*** Actually, he could be the God of the Moon Tribe. [[spoiler: I mean, he is from an Alien Race where they're trying to prevent the heat death of the universe through the energy of humans. Not too far from the Moon Tribe's own methods of getting rid of their demons by putting them on an Ark as a Trojan Gift to the Celestials. Plus, he looks like a bunny so it fits with the whole MoonRabbit thing.]]

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*** Actually, he could be the God of the Moon Tribe. [[spoiler: I mean, he is from an Alien Race where they're trying to prevent the heat death of the universe through the energy of humans. Not too far from the Moon Tribe's own methods of getting rid of their demons by putting them on an Ark as a Trojan Gift to the Celestials. Plus, he looks like a bunny so it fits with the whole MoonRabbit thing.]]



The Moon Tribe are the precursors of the Shinkoku Trastrium civilization, the Demons that [[spoiler: Yami let loose on the world]] are the original Gohma from ''Asura's Wrath'' and [[spoiler: Chakravartin created both Yami, Akuro, and the demons turned Gohma and ended the reign of the Japanese pantheon with his power, and gave the technology the Moon Tribe left behind to the Shinkoku Race]].]]

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The Moon Tribe are the precursors of the Shinkoku Trastrium civilization, the Demons that [[spoiler: Yami let loose on the world]] world are the original Gohma from ''Asura's Wrath'' and [[spoiler: Chakravartin created both Yami, Akuro, and the demons turned Gohma and ended the reign of the Japanese pantheon with his power, and gave the technology the Moon Tribe left behind to the Shinkoku Race]].]]
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* I'm pretty sure Yami is supposed to be an Expy of Amatsu-Mikaboshi already. He is considered the UltimateEvil in both the first game and the sequel after all. However, Yami could be a piece of Amatsu-Mikaboshi, and the theoretical Okami 2 (not Okamiden) could have him as villain after all. Ammy will need a major power boost to [[UltimateEvil face]] [[EldritchAbomination him]] [[GodOfEvil though]].

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* I'm pretty sure Yami is supposed to be an Expy of Amatsu-Mikaboshi already. He is considered the UltimateEvil ultimate evil in both the first game and the sequel after all. However, Yami could be a piece of Amatsu-Mikaboshi, and the theoretical Okami 2 (not Okamiden) could have him as villain after all. Ammy will need a major power boost to [[UltimateEvil face]] face [[EldritchAbomination him]] [[GodOfEvil though]].
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Since the Celestial Brush Gods were said to be born from her and Amaterasu in real life doesn't have a consort, instead creating her children from objects, it's likely that she created Chibiterasu without the need of a male partner.

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Since the Celestial Brush Gods were said to be born from her and Amaterasu in real life doesn't have a consort, consort (though some records say she's Tsukuyomi's sister-wife), instead creating her children from objects, it's likely that she created Chibiterasu without the need of a male partner.
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[[WMG: Much like Amaterasu, the Celestial Brush Gods' animal forms are not their true forms]]
They actually take the guise of animals while on Earth, similar to Amaterasu.

[[WMG: Amaterasu is a TrulySingleParent]]
Since the Celestial Brush Gods were said to be born from her and Amaterasu in real life doesn't have a consort, instead creating her children from objects, it's likely that she created Chibiterasu without the need of a male partner.
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[[WMG: Tama originally was a pirate named [[OnePiece Usopp]] before settling down and changing his name.]]

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[[WMG: Tama originally was a pirate named [[OnePiece [[Manga/OnePiece Usopp]] before settling down and changing his name.]]

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* The New Brush Gods are children of the old ones, but some new ones which have never shown before appears. As for Chibi [[spoiler:Ushiwaka may have foreseen the need to send a God to fight out the remnants of Yami's darkness that were unleashed on his defeat, but since Ammy was busy he may have proposed she creates a child of her own and to split her Brush Gods in lite portions for her son to use, while he would work on a Vessel of Light to contain the remnant of darkness.]]




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* [[spoiler:Shiranui just happened to appear whenever a new sacrificial maiden was chosen, which screwed with people's mind and made them believe Shiranui was Orochi's demon sent to check on the sacrificial maiden. So it was just an unfortunate timing of his.]]




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** Or Ammy could be Ammy and Shiranui could be Shiranui. A hint for that lies in the fact she was revived from a statue, which was placed in front of Konohana and Izanagi's statue.



* Ninetails tricked Ammy into giving him a bit of her own power, [[spoiler:possibly learning from how Himiko tricked Ninetails into consuming the Knowledge Orb, along with her soul, in order to gain enough power to be able to find the Oni Island.]]



* Disproved by the end of Okami, where it reveals [[spoiler:Issun is telling a story, but he too is prone to mistakes of his own]]. Who is to say the same does not happen in Okamiden?




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* Consider this: in Japanese Myth, Amaterasu was "born" out of Izanagi's left eye when he washed his face to cleanse himself. Susanoo from his nose and Tsukiyomi from his right eye. Who is to say Ammy didn't simply decided to draw herself on a scroll and suddenly the pup jumped out of the scroll?




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* That would be the talk of Ages for these Seasons.




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** Are you for eel? Can't you t'eel' an 'eel' from a snake?! Okay, I'm done making puns. My theory is that Yami was the Moon Tribe's attempt in creating a God, which went terribly wrong (maybe they made him in the dark side of the Moon?) and then he went Mother Brain on them.


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* But he came out of the Ark of Yamato. And instead of possessing, he consumed the life force of his victims (like in one of the many versions of Tamamo-no-Mae) and used spells to change forms. The mask might be just his attempt to mimic the face of Gods.
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* Tzeentch= Lord Ninetails (Both fit the role of ChessMaster and both are DangerouslyGenreSavvy)

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* Tzeentch= Lord Ninetails (Both fit (Fit the role of ChessMaster and both are DangerouslyGenreSavvy)TheChessmaster)
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* Tzeentch= Lord Ninetails (Both fit the role of ChessMaster and both are DangerouslyGenreSavy)

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* Tzeentch= Lord Ninetails (Both fit the role of ChessMaster and both are DangerouslyGenreSavy)DangerouslyGenreSavvy)
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[[WMG: The universe is connected to ViewtifulJoe.]]

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[[WMG: The universe is connected to ViewtifulJoe.VideoGame/ViewtifulJoe.]]
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[[WMG: The world of Okami and Okamiden and ''AsurasWrath'' are a part of the same universe]]
The Moon Tribe are the precursors of the Shinkoku Trastrium civilization, the Demons that [[spoiler: Yami let loose on the world]] are the original Gohma from ''AsurasWrath'' and [[spoiler: Chakravartin created both Yami, Akuro, and the demons turned Gohma and ended the reign of the Japanese pantheon with his power, and gave the technology the Moon Tribe left behind to the Shinkoku Race]].]]

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[[WMG: The world of Okami and Okamiden and ''AsurasWrath'' ''VideoGame/AsurasWrath'' are a part of the same universe]]
The Moon Tribe are the precursors of the Shinkoku Trastrium civilization, the Demons that [[spoiler: Yami let loose on the world]] are the original Gohma from ''AsurasWrath'' ''Asura's Wrath'' and [[spoiler: Chakravartin created both Yami, Akuro, and the demons turned Gohma and ended the reign of the Japanese pantheon with his power, and gave the technology the Moon Tribe left behind to the Shinkoku Race]].]]
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* Maybe it's warning against the use of [[{{TengenToppaGurrenLagann}} Spiral Energy]]?

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* Maybe it's warning against the use of [[{{TengenToppaGurrenLagann}} [[{{Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann}} Spiral Energy]]?
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* It should be noted that in Eastern mythology, like in Japanese/Chinese/Korean myths, [[InterspeciesRomance/MythologyAndReligion interspecies pairings/matings]] like this are very common, and not stigmatizing or that surprising. Heck, Princess Fuse and the Canine Warriors in the game, are based on the real-life story of Pan Hu the Dog God. In the real myth, the Canine Warriors are her ''children'' that she had with her dog husband. The animals in the equation are always not 'just' animals, but at least sentient and special spiritual creatures. Considering Amaterasu is the Sun Goddess and Waka's some kind of advanced alien, it's not really that farfetched and would actually fit the tone of the game.
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* AscendedFanon: After all, Ammy and Joe seem friendly when they meet in ''MarvelVsCapcom3''. She even lets him ride her.

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* AscendedFanon: After all, Ammy and Joe seem friendly when they meet in ''MarvelVsCapcom3''.''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3''. She even lets him ride her.

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