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[[WMG:The Illusive Man is Racist in addition to being a massive [[FantasticRacism Xenophobe]] .]]

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[[WMG:The Illusive Man is actual Racist in addition to being a massive [[FantasticRacism Xenophobe]] .]]
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[[WMG:The Illusive Man is Racist in addition to being a massive [[FantasticRacism Xenophobe]] .]]
Look at Cerberus, both the troops you encounter in the first two games and the crew of the Normandy II. Every single one of them is Caucasian, except Jacob Taylor, who was recruited by Miranda for her part of the project, not scouted by the Illusive Man. Every single other member of Cerberus is Caucasian.
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* A no-shooting-whatsoever mission, a la ''Film/TheNegotiator''. Paragons get to be KevinSpacey. Renegades get to be ''SamuelLJackson''. Bring maxed out meters!

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* A no-shooting-whatsoever mission, a la ''Film/TheNegotiator''. Paragons get to be KevinSpacey. Renegades get to be ''SamuelLJackson''.''Creator/SamuelLJackson''. Bring maxed out meters!
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* A no-shooting-whatsoever mission, a la TheNegotiator. Paragons get to be KevinSpacey. Renegades get to be ''SamuelLJackson''. Bring maxed out meters!

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* A no-shooting-whatsoever mission, a la TheNegotiator.''Film/TheNegotiator''. Paragons get to be KevinSpacey. Renegades get to be ''SamuelLJackson''. Bring maxed out meters!
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[[WMG: The Reapers and the [[StargateVerse Goa'uld]] are somehow related.]]

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[[folder:The Reapers -- General]]
[[WMG: "Nazara" is the species ''Sovereign'' [[spoiler:was made from]].]]
No actual evidence, but it makes some sense that an entity calling itself Nazara [[spoiler:and made from a sapient species]] would give itself [[spoiler:the name of that species]].
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[[WMG:If you encouraged Garrus to be more Renegade in VideoGame/MassEffect [[VideoGame/MassEffect1 1]] and [[VideoGame/MassEffect2 2]]...]]

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[[WMG: ''VideoGame/MassEffect'' is part of a Bioware plot to destroy the universe]]

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[[WMG:The ''VideoGame/MassEffect'' games, and ''VideoGame/MassEffect2'' in particular, is an anti-DRM, and anti-[[ElectronicArts EA]] Aesop]]

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[[WMG: ''VideoGame/MassEffect'' is really a documentary sent back in time]]
* In the late 22nd century, the Reaper wars will push humanity to the brink of extinction. Using mass effect fields for temporal distortion, human survivors sent ''VideoGame/MassEffect'' back to our time in order to inspire us to explore space, and also to warn us against the Reaper threat. Unfortunately, the games are not having the intended effect, as space funding is facing major cuts.

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[[WMG: ''VideoGame/MassEffect'' ''Franchise/MassEffect'' is really a documentary sent back in time]]
* In the late 22nd century, the Reaper wars will push humanity to the brink of extinction. Using mass effect fields for temporal distortion, human survivors sent ''VideoGame/MassEffect'' ''Franchise/MassEffect'' back to our time in order to inspire us to explore space, and also to warn us against the Reaper threat. Unfortunately, the games are not having the intended effect, as space funding is facing major cuts.



In ''MassEffect3'', Liara states that s/he's the real deal and that they knew as soon as she touched him/her if she's Shepard's LoveInterest. Now, remember: what can Liara's species do that nobody else can? ''Meld minds''. She can actually join her mind and consciousness with that of another person. Now, since she can do this, it stands to reason that she would be able to tell whether or not her lover was a human or a VI since, y'know, VI's don't have any nervous systems that she could meld with: at which point she'd know instantly that this Shepard wasn't the same as the wo/man she loved. So, we've ruled out that it can't really be a VI. What about the clone idea, then? Similar principle. Liara probably would be able to tell that something was up.

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In ''MassEffect3'', ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'', Liara states that s/he's the real deal and that they knew as soon as she touched him/her if she's Shepard's LoveInterest. Now, remember: what can Liara's species do that nobody else can? ''Meld minds''. She can actually join her mind and consciousness with that of another person. Now, since she can do this, it stands to reason that she would be able to tell whether or not her lover was a human or a VI since, y'know, VI's don't have any nervous systems that she could meld with: at which point she'd know instantly that this Shepard wasn't the same as the wo/man she loved. So, we've ruled out that it can't really be a VI. What about the clone idea, then? Similar principle. Liara probably would be able to tell that something was up.
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[[WMG: The reason Garrus' team didn't survive the merc ambush before ME2 was because...]]

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[[WMG: The reason Garrus' team didn't survive the merc ambush before ME2 [=ME2=] was because...]]
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* Except one Jacob is the son of another one, and playable!Jacob's father isn't named Jacob... [[GrandfatherParadox so how would that...]] [[DivideByZero *explosion ensues* ]]

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* Except one Jacob is the son of another one, and playable!Jacob's father isn't named Jacob... [[GrandfatherParadox so how would that...]] [[DivideByZero [[RealityBreakingParadox *explosion ensues* ]]
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** That or she stole it from the SR-2 after Haestrom. She was only hired help on the SR-1, which meant that Adams could presumably steer her away from the sensitive tech. As ''Chief'' Engineer of the SR-2, however, she'd have to know the ship down to every bolt and weld, and that includes the stealth drive. And considering it was stolen from the Alliance by Cerberus to begin with...
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******** Remember what happened to them the last time they played around with some reaper tech? [[spoiler: They got kidnapped and were almost turned into [[EldrichAbomination eldrich]] babyfood.]]You can see why they do not like the idea of trying that again.

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******** Remember what happened to them the last time they played around with some reaper tech? [[spoiler: They got kidnapped and were almost turned into [[EldrichAbomination eldrich]] [[EldritchAbomination eldritch]] babyfood.]]You can see why they do not like the idea of trying that again.
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*** Ever hear of a YouTube series called Game Theory? [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVmyfqZXfmE There's an episode that confirms this]], based around the possibility of Shepard being brought back from the dead, giving a lot of evidence in support... but one piece of evidence showed that Shepard's brain was exposed to so much cold, it [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel ''cold-boiled their brain, turning it to mush'']]. Without a brain, it's absolutely impossible for that Shepard in 2 to be the same as the Shepard in 1. [[WildMassGuessing It seems we may need the 'Space Magic' theory if we want to justify the apparent necromancy of the Lazarus project]].

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*** Ever hear of a YouTube series called Game Theory? [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVmyfqZXfmE There's an episode that confirms this]], based around the possibility of Shepard being brought back from the dead, giving a lot of evidence in support... but one piece of evidence showed that Shepard's brain was exposed to so much cold, it [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel [[NightmareFuel ''cold-boiled their brain, turning it to mush'']]. Without a brain, it's absolutely impossible for that Shepard in 2 to be the same as the Shepard in 1. [[WildMassGuessing It seems we may need the 'Space Magic' theory if we want to justify the apparent necromancy of the Lazarus project]].
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*** Ever hear of a YouTube series called Game Theory? [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVmyfqZXfmE There's an episode that confirms this]], based around the possibility of Shepard being brought back from the dead, giving a lot of evidence in support... but one piece of evidence showed that Shepard's brain was exposed to so much cold, it [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel ''cold-boiled their brain, turning it to mush'']]. Without a brain, it's absolutely impossible for that Shepard in 2 to be the same as the Shepard in 1. [[WildMassGuessing It seems we may need the 'Space Magic' theory if we want to justify the apparent necromancy of the Lazarus project]].
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* In fact, the Yahg as a whole are not even stated to be like that. They're not stated to have the strengths of all the races as a whole but better. What they have on the Council Races is their raw physical strength and their ability to perceive when people are bullshitting them, which is physiological, not mental. Only the Shadow Broker has proven to be superintelligent, and Mordin gave a speech about outliers, which, given his willingness to leave his planet with aliens, makes him one already.
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* Exept they are not flawless. They are uncooperative, violent and generaly sociopatic race. Like, for example, Drow from Forgotten relams. Strong individuals, weak society.
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[[WMG:EDI in universe composed "Suicide Mission" soundtrack]]
* And played this epic track while going through the Omega-4 Relay to boost morale.
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* During the course of his lifetime, Heinlein's AuthorAvatar / GodModeSue has twin daughters. These twins are [[OppositeSexClone girls]], created with an altered version of his Y Chromosone. He later enters into an [[IncestIsRelative incestuous]] relationship with both of them. Of course, their genes are so perfect that, if they become pregnant, then the offspring will suffer no ill effects whatsover. [[NightmareFuel Makes sense why Miranda ran away and kidnapped an infant now, doesn't it?]]

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* During the course of his lifetime, Heinlein's AuthorAvatar / GodModeSue has twin daughters. These twins are [[OppositeSexClone girls]], created with an altered version of his Y Chromosone. He later enters into an [[IncestIsRelative incestuous]] relationship with both of them. Of course, their genes are so perfect that, if they become pregnant, then the offspring will suffer no ill effects whatsover. [[NightmareFuel Makes sense why Miranda ran away and kidnapped an infant now, doesn't it?]]it?



[[spoiler: There are almost certainly other colonies in the Viper Nebula that are effectively cut off from the rest of the galaxy now that the Alpha Relay is gone. And now they have the Reaper fleet to deal with, [[NightmareFuel with no hope of escape or even learning what's happening to them]]. Cue the invasion of Earth in [=ME3=], and the first non-human husks we have to deal with are made out of batarians. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Way to go, Shep.]] ]]

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[[spoiler: There are almost certainly other colonies in the Viper Nebula that are effectively cut off from the rest of the galaxy now that the Alpha Relay is gone. And now they have the Reaper fleet to deal with, [[NightmareFuel with no hope of escape or even learning what's happening to them]].them. Cue the invasion of Earth in [=ME3=], and the first non-human husks we have to deal with are made out of batarians. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Way to go, Shep.]] ]]


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[[WMG: The reason Garrus' team didn't survive the merc ambush before ME2 was because...]]
* ...Garrus never completed their loyalty missions.
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*** ''Retribution'' has been confirmed to take part ''after'' the events of ''VideoGame/MassEffect2''. The idea of having Reaper tech in Shepard, however, is still valid. Cerberus was performing experiments on Husks, and as we all know, the tech in them ''reanimates dead flesh.'' This tech may prove vital at the end of the trilogy - as it allows Shepard to sneak aboard Reaper-controlled stations and ships, or to resist indoctrination. I doubt Bioware had Shepard die and brought back as a cyborg simply to make players RestartAtLevelOne.

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*** ''Retribution'' has been confirmed to take part ''after'' the events of ''VideoGame/MassEffect2''. The idea of having Reaper tech in Shepard, however, is still valid. Cerberus was performing experiments on Husks, and as we all know, the tech in them ''reanimates dead flesh.'' This tech may prove vital at the end of the trilogy - as it allows Shepard to sneak aboard Reaper-controlled stations and ships, or to resist indoctrination. I doubt Bioware had Shepard die and brought back as a cyborg simply to make players RestartAtLevelOne.LevelDrain.
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* Remember how EDI said that some of his extranet bookmarks are technically illegal in the Citadel space? He's clearly a colossal CovertPervert with a list of weird fetishes as long as your arm. He saw some ad about tame varrens in Omega, and.. [[ButYouScrewOneGoat the rest is history you don't want to recall too well.]]

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* Remember how EDI said that some of his extranet bookmarks are technically illegal in the Citadel space? He's clearly a colossal CovertPervert with a list of weird fetishes as long as your arm. He saw some ad about tame varrens in Omega, and.. [[ButYouScrewOneGoat [[BestialityIsDepraved the rest is history you don't want to recall too well.]]



* Besides her [[GoodBadGirl character]], when you talk to her about the new crewmember archangel, she says something along the lines of "holding him tight" and "comforting" him. When asked if she has an alien fetish, she comes with the anwser that she loves everyone equally, intimacy breeds compassion, and all affection is welcome. Its possible she takes that last bit of life wisdom [[ButYouScrewOneGoat a bit more literal than most of us]].

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* Besides her [[GoodBadGirl character]], when you talk to her about the new crewmember archangel, she says something along the lines of "holding him tight" and "comforting" him. When asked if she has an alien fetish, she comes with the anwser that she loves everyone equally, intimacy breeds compassion, and all affection is welcome. Its possible she takes that last bit of life wisdom [[ButYouScrewOneGoat [[BestialityIsDepraved a bit more literal than most of us]].
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[[WMG: Resurrected Shepard '''is''' the real Shepard.]]
In ''MassEffect3'', Liara states that s/he's the real deal and that they knew as soon as she touched him/her if she's Shepard's LoveInterest. Now, remember: what can Liara's species do that nobody else can? ''Meld minds''. She can actually join her mind and consciousness with that of another person. Now, since she can do this, it stands to reason that she would be able to tell whether or not her lover was a human or a VI since, y'know, VI's don't have any nervous systems that she could meld with: at which point she'd know instantly that this Shepard wasn't the same as the wo/man she loved. So, we've ruled out that it can't really be a VI. What about the clone idea, then? Similar principle. Liara probably would be able to tell that something was up.
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Flashing EyesOfGold, EvilSoundsDeep... Which one am I talking about?

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Flashing EyesOfGold, SupernaturalGoldEyes, EvilSoundsDeep... Which one am I talking about?
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* This theory rings true for me. When you get right down to it, the person you're giving the technology to aside, ''Reaper technology is dangerous.'' Yes, EDI was made through Sovereign's remains, but that was debris recovered from a ship that was completely and utterly ripped apart and destroyed. The Collector Station, should you choose to recover it, would be intact. Who's to say Harbinger's not capable of multi-tasking and that bit near the end where he was fiddling on his holographic keyboard was him also messing with the station so it wouldn't help anyone? We saw what happened with the Derelict Reaper. Everyone thought it was dead, even the Illusive Man, but it was able to Husk-ify dozens of scientists while being 'dead', then what makes you think the same thing isn't possible with the Collector Station? Let's not even get started on how you can't possibly predict what Cerberus will do with the base. Best case scenario? The station is harmless, but now a terrorist organization has access to Reaper tech. Worst case scenario? The incident with the Derelict Reaper is repeated, but [[ItGotWorse a hundred times worse.]]

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* This theory rings true for me. When you get right down to it, the person you're giving the technology to aside, ''Reaper technology is dangerous.'' Yes, EDI was made through Sovereign's remains, but that was debris recovered from a ship that was completely and utterly ripped apart and destroyed. The Collector Station, should you choose to recover it, would be intact. Who's to say Harbinger's not capable of multi-tasking and that bit near the end where he was fiddling on his holographic keyboard was him also messing with the station so it wouldn't help anyone? We saw what happened with the Derelict Reaper. Everyone thought it was dead, even the Illusive Man, but it was able to Husk-ify dozens of scientists while being 'dead', then what makes you think the same thing isn't possible with the Collector Station? Let's not even get started on how you can't possibly predict what Cerberus will do with the base. Best case scenario? The station is harmless, but now a terrorist organization has access to Reaper tech. Worst case scenario? The incident with the Derelict Reaper is repeated, but [[ItGotWorse a [[SerialEscalation hundred times worse.]]worse]].
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*** Or maybe Ardat-Yakshi ARE capable of having children, but in order to do that, they need to do the 'gentle' mind-meld, a.k.a. the mind-meld every other asari uses, the mind-meld that doesn't burn your brain out, but Ardat-Yakshi don't want to do that because the rush they get from said burning out is too high. Hence their status as [[CompleteMonster Complete Monsters]] in asari-dom. If Samara's a 'high-functioning' AY then maybe she's one of the few who can mate without killing, but is afraid to test that theory with Shepard.

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*** Or maybe Ardat-Yakshi ARE capable of having children, but in order to do that, they need to do the 'gentle' mind-meld, a.k.a. the mind-meld every other asari uses, the mind-meld that doesn't burn your brain out, but Ardat-Yakshi don't want to do that because the rush they get from said burning out is too high. Hence their status as [[CompleteMonster Complete Monsters]] in asari-dom. If Samara's a 'high-functioning' AY then maybe she's one of the few who can mate without killing, but is afraid to test that theory with Shepard.
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*** There's actually an alternate explanation for EveryBulletIsATracer here, and it follows from the trope image for KineticWeaponsAreJustBetter. What you're seeing as a tracer is actually plasma created by the bullet's ram pressure from being accelerated to a percentage of the speed of light in atmosphere. Granted, you can probably chalk the coloration up to a HUD.

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*** Apparently not possible programming-wise. The out-of-universe reason for not having any of the more [[StarfishAlien Starfish-y Aliens]] like the elcor and hanar as companions or whatnot is because the Unreal engine apparently only supports HumanoidAliens effectively.



**** And they did add a considerable spike in the HoYay levels with MaleShep/Kaidan and the LesYay with [=FemShep=]/Ashley. With the knowledge that those relationships were originally meant to be options for the player and it seems like Bioware might have been setting things up to finally fulfill that.

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**** And they did add a considerable spike in the HoYay levels with MaleShep/Kaidan [=MaleShep/Kaidan=] and the LesYay with [=FemShep=]/Ashley. [=FemShep/Ashley=]. With the knowledge that those relationships were originally meant to be options for the player and it seems like Bioware might have been setting things up to finally fulfill that.that.
*** Confirmed. [=FemShep=] can romance Miranda in ''2'', and [=GuyShep=] can romance (I forget the name, not having played it) in ''3''.
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and you will get the option of staying that way, becoming [[spoiler:mortal]] or if you romanced Liara or other asari [[spoiler: change it to match the lifespan]]. Nether option will be Renegade or Paragon because you will get the option to become for Paragon [[spoiler:the sentinel protecting the galaxy from all evil, or if you failed to defeat the Reapers the guide to next races]], for Renegade [[spoiler:the Immortal god-emperor of [[strike:[[{{warhammer}} mankind]]]] the galaxy or the leader of the Reapers]] or in neutral [[spoiler:[[WalkingTheEarth wander the galaxy]] exploring the new future or in search of atonement]]

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and you will get the option of staying that way, becoming [[spoiler:mortal]] or if you romanced Liara or other asari [[spoiler: change it to match the lifespan]]. Nether option will be Renegade or Paragon because you will get the option to become for Paragon [[spoiler:the sentinel protecting the galaxy from all evil, or if you failed to defeat the Reapers the guide to next races]], for Renegade [[spoiler:the Immortal god-emperor of [[strike:[[{{warhammer}} [[strike:[[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} mankind]]]] the galaxy or the leader of the Reapers]] or in neutral [[spoiler:[[WalkingTheEarth wander the galaxy]] exploring the new future or in search of atonement]]atonement]]


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** The whole concept reminds me of [[MobileSuitGundam Cyber Newtypes]]. Though, Miranda doesn't have the [[AxCrazy usual side effects]]. Though, there could be problems the game hasn't shown us, or it went completely right and she's a normal biotic.

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** The whole concept reminds me of [[MobileSuitGundam [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam Cyber Newtypes]]. Though, Miranda doesn't have the [[AxCrazy usual side effects]]. Though, there could be problems the game hasn't shown us, or it went completely right and she's a normal biotic.



''VideoGame/MassEffect3'' will be so amazing that it will cause the universe to end. [[ZeroPunctuation And it will be awesome]].

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''VideoGame/MassEffect3'' will be so amazing that it will cause the universe to end. [[ZeroPunctuation [[WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation And it will be awesome]].
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** "''There are as many worlds as there are potentialities.''" -'''[[VideoGame/ChronoTrigger Janus Zeal]]'''

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