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[[WMG: Jack is the Innocent one, while Lily is tainted by Darkness.]]
In the Director's Cut of the movie, we see Lily lie, steal, and betray her love, all out of nothing more than whim. Sure, one could argue that she is innocent of the harm these actions cause, but the evidence does not back this up: her touching of the unicorn removes its protection and makes it vulnerable to the goblins, and she is led easily by Darkness' magics (which Jack himself is not). Clearly, Jack's pure heart and inability to believe his love will do wrong are the true innocence, while Lily is (like most people) flawed - though her flaws were useful in manipulating Darkness (another un-innocent action).
[[WMG: Lily is a {{Deconstruction}} of perfect, childlike innocence.]]
She is described in the film's {{Tagline}} as being "of the purest innocence", but after you see the film a few times and really watch what Lily does in the first act, you realize that that description means "innocence taken to its LogicalExtreme". For example, when she takes her friend Nell's cookies without asking, her reasoning is most likely "Nell is my friend, so she'd share with me anyway." She believes she's just joking around and being playful with Jack when, in reality, she's unknowingly manipulating his feelings. Lily does nothing out of ''malice'', because she possesses none. The downside to her innocence is that she genuinely ''does not understand'' how her actions could affect others or cause harm. It takes the death of the unicorn and the possible doom of her kingdom for her to [[CharacterDevelopment learn that long-overdue lesson]] [[HiddenDepths (and apply it to Darkness' detriment)]], ultimately proving that acquiring wisdom doesn't taint a pure heart.
In the Director's Cut of the movie, we see Lily lie, steal, and betray her love, all out of nothing more than whim. Sure, one could argue that she is innocent of the harm these actions cause, but the evidence does not back this up: her touching of the unicorn removes its protection and makes it vulnerable to the goblins, and she is led easily by Darkness' magics (which Jack himself is not). Clearly, Jack's pure heart and inability to believe his love will do wrong are the true innocence, while Lily is (like most people) flawed - though her flaws were useful in manipulating Darkness (another un-innocent action).
[[WMG: Lily is a {{Deconstruction}} of perfect, childlike innocence.]]
She is described in the film's {{Tagline}} as being "of the purest innocence", but after you see the film a few times and really watch what Lily does in the first act, you realize that that description means "innocence taken to its LogicalExtreme". For example, when she takes her friend Nell's cookies without asking, her reasoning is most likely "Nell is my friend, so she'd share with me anyway." She believes she's just joking around and being playful with Jack when, in reality, she's unknowingly manipulating his feelings. Lily does nothing out of ''malice'', because she possesses none. The downside to her innocence is that she genuinely ''does not understand'' how her actions could affect others or cause harm. It takes the death of the unicorn and the possible doom of her kingdom for her to [[CharacterDevelopment learn that long-overdue lesson]] [[HiddenDepths (and apply it to Darkness' detriment)]], ultimately proving that acquiring wisdom doesn't taint a pure heart.
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[[WMG: Jack is the Innocent one, while Lily Lili is tainted by Darkness.]]
In the Director's Cut of the movie, we seeLily Lili lie, steal, and betray her love, all out of nothing more than whim. Sure, one could argue that she is innocent of the harm these actions cause, but the evidence does not back this up: her touching of the unicorn removes its protection and makes it vulnerable to the goblins, and she is led easily by Darkness' magics (which Jack himself is not). Clearly, Jack's pure heart and inability to believe his love will do wrong are the true innocence, while Lily Lili is (like most people) flawed - though her flaws were useful in manipulating Darkness (another un-innocent action).
[[WMG:Lily Lili is a {{Deconstruction}} of perfect, childlike innocence.]]
She is described in the film's {{Tagline}} as being "of the purest innocence", but after you see the film a few times and really watch whatLily Lili does in the first act, you realize that that description means "innocence taken to its LogicalExtreme". For example, when she takes her friend Nell's cookies without asking, her reasoning is most likely "Nell is my friend, so she'd share with me anyway." She believes she's just joking around and being playful with Jack when, in reality, she's unknowingly manipulating his feelings. Lily Lili does nothing out of ''malice'', because she possesses none. The downside to her innocence is that she genuinely ''does not understand'' how her actions could affect others or cause harm. It takes the death of the unicorn and the possible doom of her kingdom for her to [[CharacterDevelopment learn that long-overdue lesson]] [[HiddenDepths (and apply it to Darkness' detriment)]], ultimately proving that acquiring wisdom doesn't taint a pure heart.
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Recognizing Jack's love for Lily and heroic nature, Oona set up a massive illusion in which Jack would fight to save the world, Oona would offer him her love and help him, and Lily would [[DieForOurShip turn evil]]. Everything was going well, and she had set the stage perfectly for a touching reconciliation between herself and Jack in Act Three (after she saved him from a surprise attack delivered by the evil Lily, naturally), but Jack's utter refusal to think ill of Lily fought back against Oona's glamour, causing Lily to not kill the unicorn, and Oona's schemes to fail, at which point she allowed him to awake again into the real world.
[[WMG: Lily lost her innocence when she touched the unicorns]]
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Recognizing Jack's love for Lily Lili and heroic nature, Oona set up a massive illusion in which Jack would fight to save the world, Oona would offer him her love and help him, and Lily Lili would [[DieForOurShip turn evil]]. Everything was going well, and she had set the stage perfectly for a touching reconciliation between herself and Jack in Act Three (after she saved him from a surprise attack delivered by the evil Lily, Lili, naturally), but Jack's utter refusal to think ill of Lily Lili fought back against Oona's glamour, causing Lily Lili to not kill the unicorn, and Oona's schemes to fail, at which point she allowed him to awake again into the real world.
[[WMG:Lily Lili lost her innocence when she touched the unicorns]]
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[[WMG: Jack is the Innocent one, while Lily is tainted by Darkness.]]
In the Director's Cut of the movie, we see Lily lie, steal, and betray her love, all out of nothing more than whim. Sure, one could argue that she is innocent of the harm these actions cause, but the evidence does not back this up: her touching of the unicorn removes its protection and makes it vulnerable to the goblins, and she is led easily by Darkness' magics (which Jack himself is not). Clearly, Jack's pure heart and inability to believe his love will do wrong are the true innocence, while Lily is (like most people) flawed - though her flaws were useful in manipulating Darkness (another un-innocent action).
[[WMG: Lily is a {{Deconstruction}} of perfect, childlike innocence.]]
She is described in the film's {{Tagline}} as being "of the purest innocence", but after you see the film a few times and really watch what Lily does in the first act, you realize that that description means "innocence taken to its LogicalExtreme". For example, when she takes her friend Nell's cookies without asking, her reasoning is most likely "Nell is my friend, so she'd share with me anyway." She believes she's just joking around and being playful with Jack when, in reality, she's unknowingly manipulating his feelings. Lily does nothing out of ''malice'', because she possesses none. The downside to her innocence is that she genuinely ''does not understand'' how her actions could affect others or cause harm. It takes the death of the unicorn and the possible doom of her kingdom for her to [[CharacterDevelopment learn that long-overdue lesson]] [[HiddenDepths (and apply it to Darkness' detriment)]], ultimately proving that acquiring wisdom doesn't taint a pure heart.
[[WMG: The goblin who turns out to be elf after Darkness sends him to the dungeon is actually a goblin from {{WMG/Labyrinth}}, who somehow fell between the two worlds.]]
Unlike all the other characters in the movie, he makes distinctly modern-world references (the Judeo-Christian reference to Darkness as "Angel of Darkness," saying "adios amigos" as he falls in a bottomless pit, and talking about getting cooked as being "barbecue"). Also, that suit of armor shows up during the attack on the goblin city in Labyrinth. Jareth must have sent him as a spy upon Darkness - his rival as an oddly seductive goblin monarch obsessed with an adolescent girl.
[[WMG: Darkness' father is, in fact, God.]]
Darkness refers to himself as the ultimate figure of, well, Darkness (unless his SoLongAsThereIsEvil speech is a bluff). Therefore, the seemingly all-powerful "Father" he speaks to during the film cannot be purely evil: it is a being beyond either Good or Evil, who might be prayed to by or receive sacrifices from either side.
* He could be [[TheAntiGod quite the opposite]], however.
[[WMG: Darkness' father is, in fact, the ''real'' Ultimate Evil.]]
Darkness speech about how he must always exist was a giant bluff, and he was destroyed forever by Jack. His Father, however, will continue plotting, and find a new pawn...
* Corollary: Despite his posturing, Darkness was actually just a very inexperienced teenage demon, thus his general incompetence and complete confusion at being faced with an attractive member of the opposite sex.
[[WMG: Everything was an illusion created by Oona.]]
Recognizing Jack's love for Lily and heroic nature, Oona set up a massive illusion in which Jack would fight to save the world, Oona would offer him her love and help him, and Lily would [[DieForOurShip turn evil]]. Everything was going well, and she had set the stage perfectly for a touching reconciliation between herself and Jack in Act Three (after she saved him from a surprise attack delivered by the evil Lily, naturally), but Jack's utter refusal to think ill of Lily fought back against Oona's glamour, causing Lily to not kill the unicorn, and Oona's schemes to fail, at which point she allowed him to awake again into the real world.
[[WMG: Lily lost her innocence when she touched the unicorns]]
It was her punishment for laying hands on the unicorn.
* [[RapeAsDrama Not like]] [[AvertedTrope that, pervert!]]
In the Director's Cut of the movie, we see Lily lie, steal, and betray her love, all out of nothing more than whim. Sure, one could argue that she is innocent of the harm these actions cause, but the evidence does not back this up: her touching of the unicorn removes its protection and makes it vulnerable to the goblins, and she is led easily by Darkness' magics (which Jack himself is not). Clearly, Jack's pure heart and inability to believe his love will do wrong are the true innocence, while Lily is (like most people) flawed - though her flaws were useful in manipulating Darkness (another un-innocent action).
[[WMG: Lily is a {{Deconstruction}} of perfect, childlike innocence.]]
She is described in the film's {{Tagline}} as being "of the purest innocence", but after you see the film a few times and really watch what Lily does in the first act, you realize that that description means "innocence taken to its LogicalExtreme". For example, when she takes her friend Nell's cookies without asking, her reasoning is most likely "Nell is my friend, so she'd share with me anyway." She believes she's just joking around and being playful with Jack when, in reality, she's unknowingly manipulating his feelings. Lily does nothing out of ''malice'', because she possesses none. The downside to her innocence is that she genuinely ''does not understand'' how her actions could affect others or cause harm. It takes the death of the unicorn and the possible doom of her kingdom for her to [[CharacterDevelopment learn that long-overdue lesson]] [[HiddenDepths (and apply it to Darkness' detriment)]], ultimately proving that acquiring wisdom doesn't taint a pure heart.
[[WMG: The goblin who turns out to be elf after Darkness sends him to the dungeon is actually a goblin from {{WMG/Labyrinth}}, who somehow fell between the two worlds.]]
Unlike all the other characters in the movie, he makes distinctly modern-world references (the Judeo-Christian reference to Darkness as "Angel of Darkness," saying "adios amigos" as he falls in a bottomless pit, and talking about getting cooked as being "barbecue"). Also, that suit of armor shows up during the attack on the goblin city in Labyrinth. Jareth must have sent him as a spy upon Darkness - his rival as an oddly seductive goblin monarch obsessed with an adolescent girl.
[[WMG: Darkness' father is, in fact, God.]]
Darkness refers to himself as the ultimate figure of, well, Darkness (unless his SoLongAsThereIsEvil speech is a bluff). Therefore, the seemingly all-powerful "Father" he speaks to during the film cannot be purely evil: it is a being beyond either Good or Evil, who might be prayed to by or receive sacrifices from either side.
* He could be [[TheAntiGod quite the opposite]], however.
[[WMG: Darkness' father is, in fact, the ''real'' Ultimate Evil.]]
Darkness speech about how he must always exist was a giant bluff, and he was destroyed forever by Jack. His Father, however, will continue plotting, and find a new pawn...
* Corollary: Despite his posturing, Darkness was actually just a very inexperienced teenage demon, thus his general incompetence and complete confusion at being faced with an attractive member of the opposite sex.
[[WMG: Everything was an illusion created by Oona.]]
Recognizing Jack's love for Lily and heroic nature, Oona set up a massive illusion in which Jack would fight to save the world, Oona would offer him her love and help him, and Lily would [[DieForOurShip turn evil]]. Everything was going well, and she had set the stage perfectly for a touching reconciliation between herself and Jack in Act Three (after she saved him from a surprise attack delivered by the evil Lily, naturally), but Jack's utter refusal to think ill of Lily fought back against Oona's glamour, causing Lily to not kill the unicorn, and Oona's schemes to fail, at which point she allowed him to awake again into the real world.
[[WMG: Lily lost her innocence when she touched the unicorns]]
It was her punishment for laying hands on the unicorn.
* [[RapeAsDrama Not like]] [[AvertedTrope that, pervert!]]
