History WMG / FireForce

* Half-right: The newest chapter all but confirms it's prequel as Shinra recreates the world, tears the despair from Haumea, turning it into the pure madness we know of Asura before being accosted of the old Death. \

* Jossed, as Shinra states that Tamaki isn't his type, and in the final StoryArc, she agrees to go out with Juggernaut instead.

[[WMG: Medusa from ''Manga/SoulEater'' is the descendant of Orochi and Hajiki.]]
In chapters 299 and 300, the revived Orochi immediately falls in love with Hajiki after noticing he’s her ideal man. Given how Hajiki didn’t care about how Orochi killed him and their last scene depicts both of them leaving together to some place, it wouldn’t be crazy that they would have eventually start a relationship and form a family. Now, Orochi was shown to have a snake motif both in her codename and ability (appropriately named Medusa’s Whip) and she has a similar appearance to Soul Eater’s Medusa too. Furthermore, it seems weird Okubo focused on a minor antagonist like her in the ending, while more relevant villains like Faerie or Ritsu were brushed off aside and didn't get a proper conclusion. This is Okubo’s stealthy way to show Medusa’s distant origins in Fire Force.

* Half-right: The newest chapter all but confirms it's prequel as Shinra recreates the world, tears the despair from Haumea, turning it into the pure madness we know of Asura before being accosted of the old Death.

He's always had an absurd, unshakeable self-confidence. Now that climax of the manga is here and it seems like the worlds have merged, his beliefs are literally making him stronger and adding power-ups to Excalibur that weren't there before.

** Jossed, as Shinra states that Tamaki isn't his type, and in the final StoryArc, she agrees to go out with Juggernaut instead.

* Proven false [[spoiler:with the reveal that they were virgin births.]]

Half-right: The newest chapter all but confirms it's prequel as Shinra recreates the world, tears the despair from Haumea, turning it into the pure madness we know of Asura before being accosted of the old Death.

While the Fire Force is taking care of the Infernals, a new version of NERV is taking the fight to the White-Clad, who they know is actually SEELE. While the Evangelions have become fully-robotic, they still need pilots. Currently, only Shinji and Asuka are pilots, as Rei ascended to godhood, Touji never returned from Instrumentality, Kaworu was an Angel, Kensuke and Hikari want nothing to do with piloting, and Mari doesn't exist in this universe. SEELE opposes them with kaiju-sized Infernals and the remaining Mass-Produced Evas serving as a PsychoSquad, though without Synch Rates or the Spear of Longinus in play anymore, they're much less effective than before.

* Iris revealing herself to be a [[ShipperOnDeck shipper on deck]] for Shinra and Tamaki is actually the author flat out admitting that they will be together at the end of the manga.

* To be more precise a doppelganger of someone who was already dead, like Hibachi Shinmon's doppelganger, and thus wouldn't be on the Kusakabe family records like Sho discovered.
** Proven false [[spoiler:with the reveal that they were virgin births.]]

** Proven false [[spoiler:with the reveal that they were virgin births.]]

* Chapter 182 reveals that the Moon in Fire Force looks exactly like the one in Soul Eater. This combined with the subtle theme of madness within the series means that Fire Force either takes place in the future of Soul Eater or Asura is trying to invade a new world figuring that he can conquer that one after his inability to defeat Soul, Maka, Death the Kidd, etc...

* It looks like accidents but she's doing it on purpose to arouse Shinra. Think how many times they happen to Shinra in comparison to others. She's secretly part of a religious cult that is separate from the White Clad, which has the opposite intention. They think that by triggering sufficient arousal in someone carrying the Adolla Brust they will trigger [[HealItWithFire healing flames]] that can protect against infernalization or reverse it or something. After this happens, she will become uncharacteristically reserved and declare, "Ha HA! JustAsPlanned!" When the action/drama/etc. has passed, she will trip and knock over Shinra, leading to a SuggestiveCollision. She will blush and stammer that it was just "[[StatusQuoIsGod force of habit]]".

* To be more precise a doppelganger of someone who was already dead, like Hibachi Shinmon's doppelganger, and thus wouldn't be on the Kusakabe family records like Sho discovered.

Iris revealing herself to be a [[ShipperOnDeck shipper on deck]] for Shinra and Tamaki is actually the author flat out admitting that they will be together at the end of the manga.

Iris revealing herself to be a [[ShipperOnDeck shipper on deck]] for Shinra and Tamaki is actually the author flat out admitting that they will be together at the end of the manga.

-Arthur appears to be an exception, but his training prior to joining Team 8 is a complete mystery.

* It looks like accidents but she's doing it on purpose in to arouse Shinra. Think how many times they happen to Shinra in comparison to others. She's secretly part of a religious cult that is separate from the White Clad, which has the opposite intention. They think that by triggering sufficient arousal in someone carrying the Adolla Brust they will trigger [[HealItWithFire healing flames]] that can protect against infernalization or reverse it or something. After this happens, she will become uncharacteristically reserved and declare, "Ha HA! JustAsPlanned!" When the action/drama/etc. has passed, she will trip and knock over Shinra, leading to a SuggestiveCollision. She will blush and stammer that it was just "[[StatusQuoIsGod force of habit]]".

One of the chronically reappearing themes, especially after the fire beetle discovery is how easily Shinra is affected by circumstance, and his personality isnt anchored to anything that would prevent him from suffering a crises of faith.

Tamaki is kind of a weird filter for this: she’s portrayed as a “fan service girl” but her personality seems much more focused on being seen as something beyond that. Hence, her reactions to Shinra are kind of telling. In the 2nd version of the opening credits, its clear the animators took care to animate her reaction to Shinra bickering with Arthur.

The experienced adults pretty much come out and say it in the quiet periodic exposition dumps. While Shinra serves as inspiration, he’s not anchored mentally. His character is pretty much defined by reacting.

The villains (maybe?) figured this out and are so confident about their ability to disrupt him, they’re pretty much training him before attempting to turn him to their side.

In contrast, you can easily identify which characters dont have this innocence:

-Tamaki definitely doesnt harbor these delusions after her rescue

-Fire Force 8’s leader is an unpowered human, always looking for an edge

-The witch was forced to prove herself beyond her family connections

-Vulcan is so aware of the vulnerabilities, he’s practically turned himself into a walking macguffin for preventing Team 8 from getting completely destroyed in any one battle

-Arthur appears to be an exception, but his training prior to joining Team 8 is a complete mystery

[[WMG: ''Manga/FireForce'' is a stealth sequel of ''Manga/SoulEater''.]]
* Chapter 182 reveals that the Moon in Fire Force looks exactly like the one in Soul Eater. This combined with the subtle theme of madness within the series means that Fire Force either takes place in the future of Soul Eater or Asura is trying to invade a new world figuring that he can conquer that one after his inability to defeat Soul, Maka, Death the Kidd, etc...

[[WMG: Tamaki's Lucky Lecher Lure is deliberate]]
* It looks like accidents but she's doing it on purpose in to arouse Shinra. Think how many times they happen to Shinra in comparison to others. She's secretly part of a religious cult that is separate from the White Clad, which has the opposite intention. They think that by triggering sufficient arousal in someone carrying the Adolla Brust they will trigger [[HealItWithFire healing flames]] that can protect against infernalization or reverse it or something. After this happens, she will become uncharacteristically reserved and declare, "Ha HA! JustAsPlanned!" When the action/drama/etc. has passed, she will trip and knock over Shinra, leading to a SuggestiveCollision. She will blush and stammer that it was just "[[StatusQuoIsGod force of habit]]".

In contrast: Arthur, although blatantly delusional in many respects, is still anchored to his real-world role as a paladin.

Shinra’s anchor as ‘hero’ is self appointed with no real world frame of reference. His motivations for getting involved with the Fire Force are largely circumstantial. He’s not goal oriented, nor is he largely incentivized to head in any specific direction.

* It looks like accidents but she's acting doing it on purpose in to arouse Shinra. Think how many times they happen to Shinra in comparison to others. She's secretly part of a religious cult that is separate from the White Clad, which has the opposite intention. They think that by triggering sufficient arousal in someone carrying the Adolla Brust will trigger [[HealItWithFire healing flames]] that can protect against infernalization or reverse it or something. After this happens, she will become uncharacteristically reserved and declared, "Ha HA! JustAsPlanned!" When the action/drama/etc. has passed, she will trip and knock over Shinra, leading to a SuggestiveCollision. She will blush and stammer that it was just "[[StatusQuoIsGod force of habit]]".

* Chapter 182 reveals that the Moon in Fire Force looks exactly like the one in Soul Eater. This combined with the subtle theme of madness within the series means that Fire Force either takes place in the future of Soul Eater or Asura is trying to invade a new world figuring that he can conquer that one after his inability to defeat Soul, Maka, Death the Kidd, etc...