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The One Above All mentions that beyond the House of Ideas, and the World of Action as a whole, is the World of Creation. But much like how places like the Beyond and the House of Ideas have [[EvilCounterpart evil counterparts]] of their own, the World of Creation could also have its own counterpart. And since the opposite of creation is destruction, there could very well be a World of Destruction beneath the Below-Place, with the One Below All being the start of something even lower.

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The One Above All mentions that beyond the House of Ideas, and the World of Action as a whole, is the World of Creation. But much like how places like the Beyond and the House of Ideas have [[EvilCounterpart evil dark counterparts]] of their own, the World of Creation could also have its own counterpart. And since the opposite of creation is destruction, there could very well be a World of Destruction beneath the Below-Place, with the One Below All being the start of something even lower.
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The One Above All mentions that beyond the House of Ideas, and the World of Action as a whole, is the World of Creation. But much like how places like the Beyond and the House of Ideas have EvilCounterparts of their own, the World of Creation could also have its own counterpart. And since the opposite of creation is destruction, there could very well be a World of Destruction beneath the Below-Place, with the One Below All being the start of something even lower.

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The One Above All mentions that beyond the House of Ideas, and the World of Action as a whole, is the World of Creation. But much like how places like the Beyond and the House of Ideas have EvilCounterparts [[EvilCounterpart evil counterparts]] of their own, the World of Creation could also have its own counterpart. And since the opposite of creation is destruction, there could very well be a World of Destruction beneath the Below-Place, with the One Below All being the start of something even lower.
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The One Above All mentions that beyond the House of Ideas, and the World of Action as a whole, is the World of Creation. But much like how places like the Beyond and the House of Ideas have below-counterparts of their own, the World of Creation could also have its own counterpart. And since the opposite of creation is destruction, there could very well be a World of Destruction beneath the Below-Place, with the One Below All being the start of something even lower.

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The One Above All mentions that beyond the House of Ideas, and the World of Action as a whole, is the World of Creation. But much like how places like the Beyond and the House of Ideas have below-counterparts EvilCounterparts of their own, the World of Creation could also have its own counterpart. And since the opposite of creation is destruction, there could very well be a World of Destruction beneath the Below-Place, with the One Below All being the start of something even lower.
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At the end of ''Defenders: Beyond'', the Beyonder decided to leave the multiverse for good. Perhaps this could lead into a miniseries focusing on the Beyonder's adventures outside of the multiverse. It could allow us to catch a glimpse of what lies beyond the House of Ideas, and even tell us a little more about the Enigma.

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At the end of ''Defenders: Beyond'', the Beyonder decided to leave the multiverse for good. Perhaps this could lead into a miniseries focusing on the Beyonder's adventures outside of the multiverse. It could allow us to catch a glimpse of what lies beyond the House of Ideas, and even tell us a little more about the Enigma.Enigma.

[[WMG:There's a World of Destruction opposite the World of Creation]]
The One Above All mentions that beyond the House of Ideas, and the World of Action as a whole, is the World of Creation. But much like how places like the Beyond and the House of Ideas have below-counterparts of their own, the World of Creation could also have its own counterpart. And since the opposite of creation is destruction, there could very well be a World of Destruction beneath the Below-Place, with the One Below All being the start of something even lower.
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Besides, the real world was already confirmed to be part of the multiverse as Earth-1218, so that alone should debunk the "real world is the World of Creation" rumor.
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The House of Ideas is said to be the furthest point of the entire multiverse. So what lies beyond the One Above All's domain? One possibility is that there's a megaverse that houses not only the multiverse, but ''all'' multiverses. For example, the Megaverse can house the Avengers' multiverse, as well as the [[Creator/DCComics Justice League's multiverse]] (the crossover ''ComicBook/JLAAvengers'' outright confirmed that the two multiverses were part of the megaverse), as well as an infinite amount of other multiverses, each with their own unique set of heroes and villains. And the World of Creation could be a hub for every multiverse, and the home of its creators.

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The House of Ideas is said to be the furthest point of the entire multiverse. So what lies beyond the One Above All's domain? One possibility is that there's a megaverse that houses not only the multiverse, but ''all'' multiverses. For example, the Megaverse can house the Avengers' multiverse, as well as the [[Creator/DCComics Justice League's multiverse]] (the crossover ''ComicBook/JLAAvengers'' outright confirmed that the two multiverses were part of the megaverse), as well as an infinite amount of other multiverses, each with their own unique set of heroes and villains. And the World of Creation could be a hub for every multiverse, and the home of its creators.creators.

[[WMG:There will be a limited series focusing on the Beyonder in the future]]
At the end of ''Defenders: Beyond'', the Beyonder decided to leave the multiverse for good. Perhaps this could lead into a miniseries focusing on the Beyonder's adventures outside of the multiverse. It could allow us to catch a glimpse of what lies beyond the House of Ideas, and even tell us a little more about the Enigma.
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The House of Ideas is said to be the furthest point of the entire multiverse. So what lies beyond the One Above All's domain? One possibility is that there's a megaverse that houses not only the multiverse, but ''all'' multiverses. For example, the Megaverse can house the Avengers' multiverse, as well as the [[Creator/DCComics Justice League's multiverse]] (the crossover ''ComicBook/JLAAvengers'' outright confirmed that the two multiverses were part of the megaverse), as well as an infinite amount of other multiverses, each with their own unique set of heroes. And the World of Creation could be a hub for every multiverse, and the home of its creators.

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The House of Ideas is said to be the furthest point of the entire multiverse. So what lies beyond the One Above All's domain? One possibility is that there's a megaverse that houses not only the multiverse, but ''all'' multiverses. For example, the Megaverse can house the Avengers' multiverse, as well as the [[Creator/DCComics Justice League's multiverse]] (the crossover ''ComicBook/JLAAvengers'' outright confirmed that the two multiverses were part of the megaverse), as well as an infinite amount of other multiverses, each with their own unique set of heroes.heroes and villains. And the World of Creation could be a hub for every multiverse, and the home of its creators.
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The House of Ideas is said to be the furthest point of the entire multiverse. So what lies beyond the One Above All's domain? One possibility is that there's a megaverse that houses not only the multiverse, but ''all'' multiverses. For example, the Megaverse can house the Avengers' multiverse, as well as the [[Creator/DCComics Justice League's multiverse]] (the crossover ''ComicBook/JLAAvengers'' outright confirmed that the two multiverses were part of the megaverse), as well as an infinite amount of other multiverses, each with their own unique set of heroes. And the World of Creation could be a hub for every multiverse, and the home to its creators.

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The House of Ideas is said to be the furthest point of the entire multiverse. So what lies beyond the One Above All's domain? One possibility is that there's a megaverse that houses not only the multiverse, but ''all'' multiverses. For example, the Megaverse can house the Avengers' multiverse, as well as the [[Creator/DCComics Justice League's multiverse]] (the crossover ''ComicBook/JLAAvengers'' outright confirmed that the two multiverses were part of the megaverse), as well as an infinite amount of other multiverses, each with their own unique set of heroes. And the World of Creation could be a hub for every multiverse, and the home to of its creators.
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The House of Ideas is said to be the furthest point of the entire multiverse. So what lies beyond the One Above All's domain? One possibility is that there's a megaverse that houses not only the multiverse, but ''all'' multiverses. For example, the Megaverse can house the Avengers' multiverse, as well as the [[Creator/DCComics Justice League's multiverse]] (the crossover '''ComicBook/JLAVSAvengers'' outright confirmed that the two multiverses were part of the megaverse), as well as an infinite amount of other multiverses, each with their own unique set of heroes. And the World of Creation could be a hub for every multiverse, and the home to its creators.

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The House of Ideas is said to be the furthest point of the entire multiverse. So what lies beyond the One Above All's domain? One possibility is that there's a megaverse that houses not only the multiverse, but ''all'' multiverses. For example, the Megaverse can house the Avengers' multiverse, as well as the [[Creator/DCComics Justice League's multiverse]] (the crossover '''ComicBook/JLAVSAvengers'' ''ComicBook/JLAAvengers'' outright confirmed that the two multiverses were part of the megaverse), as well as an infinite amount of other multiverses, each with their own unique set of heroes. And the World of Creation could be a hub for every multiverse, and the home to its creators.
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Galactus mentioned that the mysterious Train and Conductor hail from a space and time beyond his understanding. Perhaps that's foreshadowing that they both hail from ''outside'' of space and time. And knowing Al Ewing's love for ArcWelding, it's possible he'll address the Train's true origins at some point.

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Galactus mentioned that the mysterious Train and Conductor hail from a space and time beyond his understanding. Perhaps that's foreshadowing that they both hail from ''outside'' of space and time. And knowing Al Ewing's love for ArcWelding, it's possible he'll address the Train's true origins at some point.point.

[[WMG:The World of Creation is part of the megaverse]]
The House of Ideas is said to be the furthest point of the entire multiverse. So what lies beyond the One Above All's domain? One possibility is that there's a megaverse that houses not only the multiverse, but ''all'' multiverses. For example, the Megaverse can house the Avengers' multiverse, as well as the [[Creator/DCComics Justice League's multiverse]] (the crossover '''ComicBook/JLAVSAvengers'' outright confirmed that the two multiverses were part of the megaverse), as well as an infinite amount of other multiverses, each with their own unique set of heroes. And the World of Creation could be a hub for every multiverse, and the home to its creators.
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As seen in Al Ewing's other comics, both the Beyond and the House of Ideas both have locations considered to be their opposite counterparts: the Un-Beyond and the Below-Place, respectively. If so, then it only makes sense that the other places in the Mystery that we've explored so far have their own dark counterparts.

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As seen in Al Ewing's other comics, both the Beyond and the House of Ideas both have locations considered to be their opposite counterparts: the Un-Beyond and the Below-Place, respectively. If so, then it only makes sense that the other places in the Mystery that we've explored so far have their own dark counterparts.counterparts.

[[WMG:The Train and its Conductor from ''[[ComicBook/BestDefense Defenders: The Best Defense]]'' hails from the Mystery, particularly outside the House of Ideas]]
Galactus mentioned that the mysterious Train and Conductor hail from a space and time beyond his understanding. Perhaps that's foreshadowing that they both hail from ''outside'' of space and time. And knowing Al Ewing's love for ArcWelding, it's possible he'll address the Train's true origins at some point.

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Elsa is Marvel's biggest ContinuitySnarl right now, and she was a member of ComicBook/{{Nextwave}} so she's already been a victim of The Beyond Corporations reality warping. Maybe all the changes are the result of "Quantrell" periodically altering her history trying to create a version of her that's strong enough to defeat the Beyonders most feared enemy.

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Elsa is Marvel's biggest ContinuitySnarl right now, and she was a member of ComicBook/{{Nextwave}} so she's already been a victim of The Beyond Corporations reality warping. Maybe all the changes are the result of "Quantrell" periodically altering her history trying to create a version of her that's strong enough to defeat the Beyonders Beyonders' most feared enemy.enemy.

[[WMG:The White Hot Room and the Land of Couldn't-Be-Shouldn't-Be have opposite counterparts]]
As seen in Al Ewing's other comics, both the Beyond and the House of Ideas both have locations considered to be their opposite counterparts: the Un-Beyond and the Below-Place, respectively. If so, then it only makes sense that the other places in the Mystery that we've explored so far have their own dark counterparts.
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* Alternatively they could be referring to themself and DC's The Presence. Meaning the "hands" [[ComicBook/ImmortalHulk The One-Below-All]] breaks with are itself and [[ComicBook/SwampThing The Great]] [[ComicBook/DarkCrisis Darkness]].
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The former, to explain why there are seemingly two monotheistic Gods, and the latter because it's a very popular fan theory with a lot of evidence to back it up.

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The former, to explain why there are seemingly two monotheistic Gods, and the latter because it's a very popular fan theory with a lot of evidence to back it up.up.

[[WMG:Jason Quantrell was secretly training Elsa Bloodstone to defeat The Enigma.]]
Elsa is Marvel's biggest ContinuitySnarl right now, and she was a member of ComicBook/{{Nextwave}} so she's already been a victim of The Beyond Corporations reality warping. Maybe all the changes are the result of "Quantrell" periodically altering her history trying to create a version of her that's strong enough to defeat the Beyonders most feared enemy.
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With two other worlds beyond it, it's possible that the World of Creation was never intended to be the real world at all--it just happened to be a part of the Four Worlds that the Mystery was inspired by (with the possibility that the Enigma hailed from it).

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With two other worlds beyond it, it's possible that the World of Creation was never intended to be the real world at all--it just happened to be a part of the Four Worlds that the Mystery was inspired by (with the possibility that the Enigma hailed from it).it).

[[WMG:Yahweh from ''ComicBook/GhostRider'' and ''ComicBook/HowardTheDuck'' [[Creator/MarvelMAX MAX]] (if it's canon), as well as [[ComicBook/Eternals2008 the Fulcrum]] are two of the "hands" that are the One Above All but also themselves.]]
The former, to explain why there are seemingly two monotheistic Gods, and the latter because it's a very popular fan theory with a lot of evidence to back it up.
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However, that may not be the case. As the One Above All mentions this, we see a map that he painted, modeled after a Jacob's ladder of the Four World's in Kabbalistic philosophy. There are four sections of the map, painted in different colors: green, blue, yellow, and red. These colors represent a different world: Action, Creation, Formation, and Emanation, respectively.

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However, that may not be the case. As the One Above All mentions this, we see a map that he painted, modeled after a Jacob's ladder of the Four World's Worlds in Kabbalistic philosophy. There are four sections of the map, painted in different colors: green, blue, yellow, and red. These colors represent a different world: Action, Creation, Formation, and Emanation, respectively.
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However, that may not be the case. As the One Above All mentions this, we see a map that he painted, modeled after a Jacob's ladder of the Four World's in Kabbalistic philosophy. There are four sections of the map, painted in different colors: green, blue, yellow, and red. These colors represent a different world: Action, Creation, Formation, and Archetypes, respectively.

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However, that may not be the case. As the One Above All mentions this, we see a map that he painted, modeled after a Jacob's ladder of the Four World's in Kabbalistic philosophy. There are four sections of the map, painted in different colors: green, blue, yellow, and red. These colors represent a different world: Action, Creation, Formation, and Archetypes, Emanation, respectively.
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With that in mind, there may be at least four different sections of the Mystery. The story of ''Defenders: Beyond''--and the entirety of Marvel's comic library--all took place in the World of Action. And beyond the House of Ideas, there are Worlds of Creation, Formation, and Archetypes--and most likely more beyond that.

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With two other worlds beyond it, it's possible that in mind, there may be at least four different sections of the Mystery. The story of ''Defenders: Beyond''--and the entirety of Marvel's comic library--all took place in the World of Action. And beyond Creation was never intended to be the House real world at all--it just happened to be a part of Ideas, there are the Four Worlds of Creation, Formation, and Archetypes--and most likely more beyond that.that the Mystery was inspired by (with the possibility that the Enigma hailed from it).
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He already made an appearance in ComicBook/AsgardiansOfTheGalaxy as some kind of corporeal spirit which was never fully explained, it would be pretty shocking if a ContinuityCavalcade book by Creator/AlEwing built on ArcWelding and featuring a time-displaced Loki doesn't so much as mention that.

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He already made an appearance in ComicBook/AsgardiansOfTheGalaxy as some kind of corporeal spirit which was never fully explained, it would be pretty shocking if a ContinuityCavalcade book by Creator/AlEwing built on ArcWelding and featuring a time-displaced Loki doesn't so much as mention that.

[[WMG:The real world is not beyond the House of Ideas]]
The One Above All mentioned that the House of Ideas is the end of the World of Action, and the beginning of the World of Creation. From those words, people believed that the World of Action is the comic book world, and the World of Creation is the real world where the comics are created.

However, that may not be the case. As the One Above All mentions this, we see a map that he painted, modeled after a Jacob's ladder of the Four World's in Kabbalistic philosophy. There are four sections of the map, painted in different colors: green, blue, yellow, and red. These colors represent a different world: Action, Creation, Formation, and Archetypes, respectively.

With that in mind, there may be at least four different sections of the Mystery. The story of ''Defenders: Beyond''--and the entirety of Marvel's comic library--all took place in the World of Action. And beyond the House of Ideas, there are Worlds of Creation, Formation, and Archetypes--and most likely more beyond
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[[WMG:Kid Loki will appear]]
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Which might make any physical conflict in the series a little less challenging.

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Which might make any physical conflict in the series a little less challenging.challenging.
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[[WMG:The surprise sixth member is the Beyonder himself]]

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[[WMG:The surprise sixth member is the Beyonder himself]]himself]]
Which might make any physical conflict in the series a little less challenging.
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[[WMG:The surprise sixth member is the Beyonder himself]]

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