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* Jossed, they're rams.
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** And considering how they revealed ''screenshots'' of the gameplay...
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Persona is a big name franchise, and atlus obviously doesn't want to do things wrong. What's the solution? Try out the next-gen platforms with a new game, then use what they've learned to make sure the big name sequels go smoothly. If it goes wrong, they've lost a bit of face and kept their franchises intact, if it goes right, they have another successful game to spin off at a later date. And considering the graphics seem rather similar to the Persona games, I wouldn't be that suprised if they re-used the engine, or at least parts of it.
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Persona is a big name franchise, and atlus obviously doesn't want to do things wrong. What's the solution? Try out the next-gen platforms with a new game, then use what they've learned to make sure the big name sequels go smoothly. If it goes wrong, they've lost a bit of face and kept their franchises intact, if it goes right, they have another successful game to spin off at a later date. And considering the graphics seem rather similar to the Persona games, I wouldn't be that suprised if they re-used the engine, or at least parts of it.it.
[[WMG: Catherine is a Shadow.]]
This works for two reasons. Reason one: people have said that Catherine's design is somewhat similar to the Priestess shadow of {{Persona 3}}, what with the odd PrincessCurls and prominently sitting spread eagle. Considering how the Priestess Arcana also represents the subconscious... The second reason is that she's a mysterious blond-haired, blue-eyed person who seems to inspire a lot of speculation on her true nature. [[{{Persona 4}} Sound familiar yet?]]
[[WMG: Catherine is a Shadow.]]
This works for two reasons. Reason one: people have said that Catherine's design is somewhat similar to the Priestess shadow of {{Persona 3}}, what with the odd PrincessCurls and prominently sitting spread eagle. Considering how the Priestess Arcana also represents the subconscious... The second reason is that she's a mysterious blond-haired, blue-eyed person who seems to inspire a lot of speculation on her true nature. [[{{Persona 4}} Sound familiar yet?]]
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That is, Jonathan is the main character [[spoiler:who is now non-dead for some reason]] of {{Persona3}} and Tobias is Teddie from {{Persona4}}. Well, why not?
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That is, Jonathan is the main character [[spoiler:who is now non-dead for some reason]] of {{Persona3}} and Tobias is Teddie from {{Persona4}}. Well, why not?not?
[[WMG: Catherine is paving the way for Persona 5 and/or another megaten game.]]
Persona is a big name franchise, and atlus obviously doesn't want to do things wrong. What's the solution? Try out the next-gen platforms with a new game, then use what they've learned to make sure the big name sequels go smoothly. If it goes wrong, they've lost a bit of face and kept their franchises intact, if it goes right, they have another successful game to spin off at a later date. And considering the graphics seem rather similar to the Persona games, I wouldn't be that suprised if they re-used the engine, or at least parts of it.
[[WMG: Catherine is paving the way for Persona 5 and/or another megaten game.]]
Persona is a big name franchise, and atlus obviously doesn't want to do things wrong. What's the solution? Try out the next-gen platforms with a new game, then use what they've learned to make sure the big name sequels go smoothly. If it goes wrong, they've lost a bit of face and kept their franchises intact, if it goes right, they have another successful game to spin off at a later date. And considering the graphics seem rather similar to the Persona games, I wouldn't be that suprised if they re-used the engine, or at least parts of it.
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* Considering, as the main page points out, that both names are the "same" in katakana, a connection between the two women of ''some'' sort is a strong possibility.
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* Considering, as the main page points out, that both names are the "same" ''same'' in katakana, a connection between the two women of ''some'' sort is a strong possibility.
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Catherine is simply a manifestation of Vincent's repressed libido and fear over being forced to settle down.
** Considering, as the main page points out, that both names are the "same" in katakana, a connection between the two women of ''some'' sort is a strong possibility.
** Considering, as the main page points out, that both names are the "same" in katakana, a connection between the two women of ''some'' sort is a strong possibility.
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** Considering, as the main page points out, that both names are the "same" in katakana, a connection between the two women of ''some'' sort is a strong possibility.
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One the one hand, its shows Vincent's relunctedness to settle down after hearing '''''K'''''atherine has his baby, with this either his silent refusal to "follow the herd" into a family, or him wishing to rejoin his fellow sheep as a bachelor. One the other hand, the way the goats are bipedal symbolizes satyrs, goatmen who are traditionally sex addicts who enjoy the company of woman, showing how Vincent meeting '''''C'''''atherine is the first time he could indulge in his own sexual fantasies, repressed by both his own lack of ambition in romance and his impending commitment with '''''K'''''atherine.
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One the one hand, its shows Vincent's relunctedness to settle down after hearing '''''K'''''atherine has his baby, with this either his silent refusal to "follow the herd" into a family, or him wishing to rejoin his fellow sheep as a bachelor. One the other hand, the way the goats are bipedal symbolizes satyrs, goatmen who are traditionally sex addicts who enjoy the company of woman, showing how Vincent meeting '''''C'''''atherine is the first time he could indulge in his own sexual fantasies, repressed by both his own lack of ambition in romance and his impending commitment with '''''K'''''atherine.'''''K'''''atherine.
[[WMG:Jonathan and Tobias are characters from the Persona series.]]
That is, Jonathan is the main character [[spoiler:who is now non-dead for some reason]] of {{Persona3}} and Tobias is Teddie from {{Persona4}}. Well, why not?
[[WMG:Jonathan and Tobias are characters from the Persona series.]]
That is, Jonathan is the main character [[spoiler:who is now non-dead for some reason]] of {{Persona3}} and Tobias is Teddie from {{Persona4}}. Well, why not?
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One the one hand, its shows Vincent's relunctedness to settle down after hearing ''K''atherine has his baby, with this either his silent refusal to "follow the herd" into a family, or him wishing to rejoin his fellow sheep as a bachelor. One the other hand, the way the goats are bipedal symbolizes satyrs, goatmen who are traditionally sex addicts who enjoy the company of woman, showing how Vincent meeting ''C''atherine is the first time he could indulge in his own sexual fantasies, repressed by both his own lack of ambition in romance and his impending commitment with ''K''atherine.
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One the one hand, its shows Vincent's relunctedness to settle down after hearing ''K''atherine '''''K'''''atherine has his baby, with this either his silent refusal to "follow the herd" into a family, or him wishing to rejoin his fellow sheep as a bachelor. One the other hand, the way the goats are bipedal symbolizes satyrs, goatmen who are traditionally sex addicts who enjoy the company of woman, showing how Vincent meeting ''C''atherine '''''C'''''atherine is the first time he could indulge in his own sexual fantasies, repressed by both his own lack of ambition in romance and his impending commitment with ''K''atherine.'''''K'''''atherine.
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* One possible explanation is that this is, as speculated above, an artificial Persona -- specifically, one that is searching for a host. This may tie into the plot of {{Persona}} 5 or yet ''another'' SpinOff.
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* One possible explanation is that this is, as speculated above, an artificial Persona -- specifically, one that is searching for a host. This may tie into the plot of {{Persona}} 5 or yet ''another'' SpinOff.SpinOff.
[[WMG:The Sheep are dual symbolism.]]
One the one hand, its shows Vincent's relunctedness to settle down after hearing ''K''atherine has his baby, with this either his silent refusal to "follow the herd" into a family, or him wishing to rejoin his fellow sheep as a bachelor. One the other hand, the way the goats are bipedal symbolizes satyrs, goatmen who are traditionally sex addicts who enjoy the company of woman, showing how Vincent meeting ''C''atherine is the first time he could indulge in his own sexual fantasies, repressed by both his own lack of ambition in romance and his impending commitment with ''K''atherine.
[[WMG:The Sheep are dual symbolism.]]
One the one hand, its shows Vincent's relunctedness to settle down after hearing ''K''atherine has his baby, with this either his silent refusal to "follow the herd" into a family, or him wishing to rejoin his fellow sheep as a bachelor. One the other hand, the way the goats are bipedal symbolizes satyrs, goatmen who are traditionally sex addicts who enjoy the company of woman, showing how Vincent meeting ''C''atherine is the first time he could indulge in his own sexual fantasies, repressed by both his own lack of ambition in romance and his impending commitment with ''K''atherine.
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Catherine is simply a manifestation of Vincent's repressed libido and fear over being forced to settle down.
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Catherine is simply a manifestation of Vincent's repressed libido and fear over being forced to settle down.down.
[[WMG:Catherine is a BlankSlate whose exact nature [[SchrodingersGun is determined by the decisions of those who interact with her]].]]
This... ''being'' responds to the desires of its victims by changing its appearance to whatever the victim ''wants'' to see -- at its core, it is neither male or female; both symbols appearing is a subtle hint at this. Upon finding and infecting a host, it puts them through a series of psychological tests via the nightmares in order to determine the victim's strengths, weaknesses and {{Fatal Flaw}}s. Failure means death, or [[FateWorseThanDeath an even worse fate]]...
* One possible explanation is that this is, as speculated above, an artificial Persona -- specifically, one that is searching for a host. This may tie into the plot of {{Persona}} 5 or yet ''another'' SpinOff.
[[WMG:Catherine is a BlankSlate whose exact nature [[SchrodingersGun is determined by the decisions of those who interact with her]].]]
This... ''being'' responds to the desires of its victims by changing its appearance to whatever the victim ''wants'' to see -- at its core, it is neither male or female; both symbols appearing is a subtle hint at this. Upon finding and infecting a host, it puts them through a series of psychological tests via the nightmares in order to determine the victim's strengths, weaknesses and {{Fatal Flaw}}s. Failure means death, or [[FateWorseThanDeath an even worse fate]]...
* One possible explanation is that this is, as speculated above, an artificial Persona -- specifically, one that is searching for a host. This may tie into the plot of {{Persona}} 5 or yet ''another'' SpinOff.
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* There's also a murder in the exposition; the victim was a lonely young man and he looks rather...sucked out.
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* There's also a murder in the exposition; the victim was a lonely young man and he his corpse looks rather...sucked out.
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*There's also a murder in the exposition; the victim was a lonely young man and he looks rather...sucked out.
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*Actually, it's Katherine on the male side...whatever that could mean.
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[[WMG: The final boss of at least one ending will be Katherine's [[spoiler:unborn child.]]]]
[[ParasiteEve And it will require bullets laced with Catherine's cells to defeat.]]
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[[WMG: The final boss of at least one ending will be Katherine's [[spoiler:unborn unborn child.]]]]
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[[ParasiteEve And it will require bullets laced with Catherine's cells to defeat.]]]]
[[WMG:Katherine is Catherine.]]
Catherine is simply a manifestation of Vincent's repressed libido and fear over being forced to settle down.
[[ParasiteEve And it will require bullets laced with Catherine's cells to defeat.
[[WMG:Katherine is Catherine.]]
Catherine is simply a manifestation of Vincent's repressed libido and fear over being forced to settle down.
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[[WMG: It has sheep in it.]]
At least one WMG will be right, damnit!
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Artificial Persona users have to take suppressants in order to keep their Persona from going rogue and potentially killing them or others. Given the link to the Persona 3 universe due to Vincent's appearance in P3P, this may not be so out there.
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Artificial Persona users have to take suppressants in order to keep their Persona from going rogue and potentially killing them or others. Given the link to the Persona 3 universe due to Vincent's appearance in P3P, this may not be so out there.there.
[[WMG: The final boss of at least one ending will be Katherine's [[spoiler:unborn child.]]]]
[[ParasiteEve And it will require bullets laced with Catherine's cells to defeat.]]
[[WMG: The final boss of at least one ending will be Katherine's [[spoiler:unborn child.]]]]
[[ParasiteEve And it will require bullets laced with Catherine's cells to defeat.]]
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Come on, she's had dreams where she kills people and there's a whole mess of sexual imagery.
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Come on, she's had dreams where she kills people and there's a whole mess of sexual imagery.imagery.
[[WMG: Catherine is an artificial Persona.]]
Artificial Persona users have to take suppressants in order to keep their Persona from going rogue and potentially killing them or others. Given the link to the Persona 3 universe due to Vincent's appearance in P3P, this may not be so out there.
[[WMG: Catherine is an artificial Persona.]]
Artificial Persona users have to take suppressants in order to keep their Persona from going rogue and potentially killing them or others. Given the link to the Persona 3 universe due to Vincent's appearance in P3P, this may not be so out there.
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Looking at the logo, you can see the male and female symbols. I'm taking this to it's illogical conclusion and saying Cathy's a hermaphrodite.
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Looking at the logo, you can see the male and female symbols. I'm taking this to it's illogical conclusion and saying Cathy's a hermaphrodite.hermaphrodite.
[[WMG: Catherine is a Succubus.]]
Come on, she's had dreams where she kills people and there's a whole mess of sexual imagery.
[[WMG: Catherine is a Succubus.]]
Come on, she's had dreams where she kills people and there's a whole mess of sexual imagery.
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* Considering the other titles Atlus has made this probably isn't the strangest yet.
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* Considering the other titles Atlus has made this probably isn't the strangest yet.yet.
[[WMG: Catherine is a Hermaphrodite. Or a transvestite.]]
Looking at the logo, you can see the male and female symbols. I'm taking this to it's illogical conclusion and saying Cathy's a hermaphrodite.
[[WMG: Catherine is a Hermaphrodite. Or a transvestite.]]
Looking at the logo, you can see the male and female symbols. I'm taking this to it's illogical conclusion and saying Cathy's a hermaphrodite.
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No game could actually make that trailer make sense.
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No game could actually make that trailer make sense.sense.
* Considering the other titles Atlus has made this probably isn't the strangest yet.
* Considering the other titles Atlus has made this probably isn't the strangest yet.
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And then he turned into CrystalDragonJesus before they shared stories. All that usual [[FreudWasRight Freudian]] [[SexIsEvil sexual]] [[DeathBySex guilt]] was displaced and noone to inflict it on. Oh, the Universe tried to fix the situation by rewriting the PSP game so he only chose one woman, but it was too late. The twisted karma went barreling into the PSP AlternateUniverse and hit Vincent in the form of HornyDevils and Sheep.
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And then he turned into CrystalDragonJesus before they shared stories. All that usual [[FreudWasRight Freudian]] [[SexIsEvil sexual]] [[DeathBySex guilt]] was displaced and noone to inflict it on. Oh, the Universe tried to fix the situation by rewriting the PSP game so he only chose one woman, but it was too late. The twisted karma went barreling back in time into the PSP AlternateUniverse and hit Vincent in the form of HornyDevils and Sheep.
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[[WMG: This game is not being worked on, it is a pure troll of Atlus's fanbase to get them speculating endlessly.]]
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[[WMG: This game is not being worked on, it is a pure troll {{troll}} of Atlus's fanbase to get them speculating endlessly.]]
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And then he turned into CrystalDragonJesus before they shared stories. All that usual [[FreudWasRight Freudian]] [[SexIsEvil sexual]] [[DeathBySex guilt]] was displaced and noone to inflict it on. Oh, the Universe tried to fix the situation by rewriting the PSP game so he only chose one woman, but it was too late. The twisted karma went barreling into the female protagonist's AlternateUniverse and hit Vincent in the form of HornyDevils and Sheep.
* Jossed. The MC is the same guy you see in the club in P3P.
* Jossed. The MC is the same guy you see in the club in P3P.
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And then he turned into CrystalDragonJesus before they shared stories. All that usual [[FreudWasRight Freudian]] [[SexIsEvil sexual]] [[DeathBySex guilt]] was displaced and noone to inflict it on. Oh, the Universe tried to fix the situation by rewriting the PSP game so he only chose one woman, but it was too late. The twisted karma went barreling into the female protagonist's PSP AlternateUniverse and hit Vincent in the form of HornyDevils and Sheep.
* Jossed. The MC is the same guy you see in the club in P3P.
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* Jossed. The MC is the same guy you see in the club in P3P.
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* Jossed. The MC is the same guy you see in the club in P3P.P3P.
[[WMG: This game is not being worked on, it is a pure troll of Atlus's fanbase to get them speculating endlessly.]]
No game could actually make that trailer make sense.
[[WMG: This game is not being worked on, it is a pure troll of Atlus's fanbase to get them speculating endlessly.]]
No game could actually make that trailer make sense.
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And then he turned into CrystalDragonJesus before they shared stories. All that usual [[FreudWasRight Freudian]] [[SexIsEvil sexual]] [[DeathBySex guilt]] was displaced and noone to inflict it on. Oh, the Universe tried to fix the situation by rewriting the PSP game so he only chose one woman, but it was too late. The twisted karma went barreling into the female protagonist's AlternateUniverse and hit Vincent in the form of HornyDevils and Sheep.
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And then he turned into CrystalDragonJesus before they shared stories. All that usual [[FreudWasRight Freudian]] [[SexIsEvil sexual]] [[DeathBySex guilt]] was displaced and noone to inflict it on. Oh, the Universe tried to fix the situation by rewriting the PSP game so he only chose one woman, but it was too late. The twisted karma went barreling into the female protagonist's AlternateUniverse and hit Vincent in the form of HornyDevils and Sheep.Sheep.
*Jossed. The MC is the same guy you see in the club in P3P.
*Jossed. The MC is the same guy you see in the club in P3P.
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And then turning into CrystalDragonJesus before they shared stories. All that usual [[FreudWasRight Freudian]] [[SexIsEvil sexual]] [[DeathBySex guilt]] was displaced and noone to inflict it on. Oh, the Universe tried to fix the situation by rewriting the PSP game so he only chose one woman, but it was too late. The twisted karma went barreling into the female protagonist's AlternateUniverse and hit Vincent in the form of HornyDevils and Sheep.
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And then turning he turned into CrystalDragonJesus before they shared stories. All that usual [[FreudWasRight Freudian]] [[SexIsEvil sexual]] [[DeathBySex guilt]] was displaced and noone to inflict it on. Oh, the Universe tried to fix the situation by rewriting the PSP game so he only chose one woman, but it was too late. The twisted karma went barreling into the female protagonist's AlternateUniverse and hit Vincent in the form of HornyDevils and Sheep.
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And then turning into CrystalDragonJesus before they shared stories. All that usual [[FreudIsRight Freudian]] [[SexIsEvil sexual]] [[DeathBySex guilt]] was displaced and noone to inflict it on. Oh, the Universe tried to fix the situation by rewriting the PSP game so he only chose one woman, but it was too late. The twisted karma went barreling into the female protagonist's AlternateUniverse and hit Vincent.
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And then turning into CrystalDragonJesus before they shared stories. All that usual [[FreudIsRight [[FreudWasRight Freudian]] [[SexIsEvil sexual]] [[DeathBySex guilt]] was displaced and noone to inflict it on. Oh, the Universe tried to fix the situation by rewriting the PSP game so he only chose one woman, but it was too late. The twisted karma went barreling into the female protagonist's AlternateUniverse and hit Vincent.Vincent in the form of HornyDevils and Sheep.
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And then turning into CrystalDragonJesus before they shared stories. All that usual [[FreudIsRight Freudian]] [[SexIsEvil sexual]] [[DeathBySex guilt]] was displaced and noone to