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Jin is a massive jerk, to the extent that it borders on being misanthropic. It's pretty possible that a major reason for his {{jerkass}} behavior stems from some kind of mental complex that translated into a fear of people, a fear of further rejection, and feelings of inferiority, born out of a combination of Ragna focusing everything on Saya at the expense of his attention when she became ill, the loss of his home following the attack by Terumi, and his treatment by others when he was in the Kisaragi family; without befriending anybody and instead driving people away he wouldn't be in risk of further losses of people he grew attached to (save for Tsubaki of course) and looking down on others would work as a mean to validate himself. His jerkish behavior was some kind of defense mechanism. This would actually make him extremely similar to [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Asuka Langley Souryuu]], right down to having the same issues that made them such jerks to begin with and being basically killed and then revived, ending up in a watered-down state by the end.

Current theory says that Relius' soul-experiments wore away at his empathy or otherwise caused him to see people as things, based largely on the fact that he was an apparently normal NiceGuy in the ''Bloodedge Experience'' novels. However, it seems as though Relius either always had the ability to see souls or acquired that ability sometime before ''Bloodedge Experience'' since he's already wearing a blindfold-type mask and his masks seem related to his altered vision, which the games confirm allow him to see souls. If the ability to see souls at the expense of individual humans was what eroded his empathy, it's likely Relius was pretty far into sociopathy by the time of Bloodedge Experience and was just doing a good job of hiding it ''à la'' Series/{{Dexter}} or [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Kotomine Kirei]]. Meeting Terumi, who likely encouraged Relius' amorality so Relius could help with Terumi's own goals, was akin to Kotomine meeting Gilgamesh in ''LightNovel/FateZero'': It didn't cause or lead to Relius' lack of empathy, it just served as the catalyst for Relius deciding to embrace the part of himself which he'd previously hidden.

Current theory says that Relius' soul-experiments wore away at his empathy or otherwise caused him to see people as things, based largely on the fact that he was an apparently normal NiceGuy in the ''Bloodedge Experience'' novels. However, it seems as though Relius either always had the ability to see souls or acquired that ability sometime before ''Bloodedge Experience'' since he's already wearing a blindfold-type mask and his masks seem related to his altered vision, which the games confirm allow him to see souls. If the ability to see souls at the expense of individual humans was what eroded his empathy, it's likely Relius was pretty far into sociopathy by the time of Bloodedge Experience and was just doing a good job of hiding it ''a la'' {{Dexter}} or [[FateStayNight Kotomine Kirei]]. Meeting Terumi, who likely encouraged Relius' amorality so Relius could help with Terumi's own goals, was akin to Kotomine meeting Gilgamesh in ''LightNovel/FateZero'': It didn't cause or lead to Relius' lack of empathy, it just served as the catalyst for Relius deciding to embrace the part of himself which he'd previously hidden.

This Troper is of the opinion that Iaijutsu and its namesakes are AwesomeButImpractical. You see plenty of other characters use it, yes, but they tend to use it either a) against enemies who are ''much'' weaker than they are; [[Manga/{{Bleach}} Yamamoto against Ayon]], [[Franchise/DevilMayCry Vergil against that Grim Reaper thing]] , or unworthy opponents; [[VideoGame/SoulSeries Mitsurugi vs Tanegashima]]. In other words, they only use it ''to show off because they know they'll get away with it'', and when they fight someone who is actually worth their time, they forego it and switch to conventional swordplay; Yama vs Aizen and Ywhach, Vergil vs Dante in cutscenes (RuleOfCool combined with GameplayAndStorySegregation), and so on. Keeping it in series, even Hakumen seems to follow this, as he never uses it (Yukikaze, for example; Jin does, Haku doesn't), impracticality of his sword size notwithstanding, yet Jin uses it exclusively, [[GameplayAndStoryIntegration even in cutscenes]], especially in circumstances where it would be extemely unwise to do so, as Ragna would no doubt attest. Would he do a better job if he learned how to use Yukianesa in ways other than Iaido?

* Might have a chance for being true, that as ''Chronophantasma'', she hasn't degraded into "I don't care about anything else except Arakune's cure!" and in fact still civil. Which in turns, brings forth this new theory to support this: In ''EXTEND'' Platinum's story, Jubei visits her, and after Platinum left, Jubei spoke of how Bang is going to be his "secret weapon" of sorts. What can be implied from here: Jubei supports her to go into the NOL and pretend like she's helping Terumi, while in truth, she's also there to motivate Bang into mastering the Phoenix: Rettenjou and probably use her and Arakune as a "testing ground" for his training of using the Nox Nyctores. Not to mention, probably Jubei knew that Litchi herself is like a WildCard in NOL employment that probably won't stay long and with the incoming problems Terumi and Relius have, they may have trouble in allocating the time for keeping her there and the incoming problems coming from various directions. After all, there is something of a [[Literature/TheArtOfWar Sun Tzu]] saying about "To deceive your enemy, you must first deceive your allies.", which looks pretty fitting considering Litchi's Chinese design. Jubei, you MagnificentBastard! [[note]]Would continue with "I read your book!" but Jubei doesn't author things.[[/note]]

The dude can revive Takamagahara. I'm almost certain this was why he wanted Carl so much.

That the one who is the self insert is [[spoiler:the master unit Amaterasu with Noel being its character. This would explain the ThirtySuePileup due to them being meant to be sloppily written but their own personalities and goals end up conflicting with the original writers idea [[SlidingScaleOfFreeWillVsFate leading to all the conflicts in the series]]. That is also why Izanami is a GenericDoomsdayVillain, both since her writer couldn't come up with anything better and that the writer simply wants to wipe the slate clean now that everything is going against it's wishes. This is also what the title ''Central Fiction'' refers to and the truth that drove Nine and maybe even Terumi insane.]]

So this could either mean one of two things; Tenjo is a Saya clone, or Izanami's soul is currently occupying Tenjo's former vessel.

Current theory says that Relius' soul-experiments wore away at his empathy or otherwise caused him to see people as things, based largely on the fact that he was an apparently normal NiceGuy in the ''Bloodedge Experience'' novels. However, it seems as though Relius either always had the ability to see souls or acquired that ability sometime before ''Bloodedge Experience'' since he's already wearing a blindfold-type mask and his masks seem related to his altered vision, which the games confirm allow him to see souls. If the ability to see souls at the expense of individual humans was what eroded his empathy, it's likely Relius was pretty far into sociopathy by the time of Bloodedge Experience and was just doing a good job of hiding it ''a la'' {{Dexter}} or [[FateStayNight Kotomine Kirei]]. Meeting Terumi, who likely encouraged Relius' amorality so Relius could help with Terumi's own goals, was akin to Kotomine meeting Gilgamesh in FateZero: It didn't cause or lead to Relius' lack of empathy, it just served as the catalyst for Relius deciding to embrace the part of himself which he'd previously hidden.

The Susano'o unit is the body of a creature capable of reproduction, and Pakumen and Terumen are baby Susano'o creatures. When a new Susano'o Unit is born, it begins its life as a Pakumen-like creature. They eventually grow to have more human-like bodies (a la Hakumen), but further up the evolutionary cycle they become more monstrous and gain teeth, and their shoulders evolve into two extra head-like structures (a la Takehaya Susano'o). So in the Susano'o unit life cycle, Pakumen and Terumen are babies/infants, Hakumen is a young adult, and Susano'o is fully grown. Now [[https://i.imgur.com/uyD95MF.jpg this image]] makes ''so much more '''SENSE!''' ''

Jubei would probably be an Expy of MarvelVsCapcom's Wolverine, a short-stanced, quick, slashy fighter. His Musashi would probably be his Drive in some way, and I could see it going two ways:

Ragna holds an imitation Azure Grimore, and with it on he can trash Hakumen (who is admittedly at [[PowerLimiter 20% power]], but he fought the Black Beast back in the day); Noel does not know how to fight, she has had her [[ArtifactOfDoom Nox Nictores]] to do that for her; even her Astral Finish is provided by it. Events will conspire to either strip them from her or she will abandon them (possibly due to her friend below). Rachel, Ragna, Kokonoe, etc. (whoever really) will be busy between the second and third games training her to use the GameBreaker power of the true Azure. Power that will be demonstrated in a [[CutscenePowerToTheMax uncontrolled]] way in ''Continuum Shift'' as a desperation move to stave off disaster, likely killing Tsubaki Yayoi in the process, and giving her the determination to get over the inevitable angst about being the LivingMacGuffin PersonOfMassDestruction. Terumi will wish it was just the [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha White Devil]] after him then.

[[WMG: Ragna's Sword Is [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha an intelligent device]].]]

[[WMG: All Grimoires are [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha Lost Logia]].]]

[[WMG: Nu is [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha Cinque]]]]

[[WMG: Noel and Rachel are the future reincarnations of [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha Nanoha and Fate]].]]

* Yes and no. As thing stand, the fourth game is set to wrap up the ''[=BlazBlue=]'' story. [[spoiler:Tsubaki received some focus, with more to come in the next game judging by the ending. Terumi and Relius, however, have been bumped down from BigBadDuumvirate status; they were nothing more than pawns to Izanami, the entity using Saya as her host. Terumi even ''gets killed'.]]

That the one who is the self insert is [[spoiler:the master unit Amaterasu with Noel being it's character. This would explain the ThirtySuePileup due to them being meant to be sloppily written but their own personalities and goals end up conflicting with the original writers idea [[SlidingScaleOfFreeWillVsFate leading to all the conflicts in the series]]. That is also why Izanami is a GenericDoomsdayVillain, both since her writer couldn't come up with anything better and that the writer simply wants to wipe the slate clean now that everything is going against it's wishes. This is also what the title ''Central Fiction'' refers to and the truth that drove Nine and maybe even Terumi insane.]]

That's how Naoto, Hazama,Terumi, Platinum and maybe even Azrael are in the game.

* Amaterasu is one of the three Sankishin Units and is used for Manipulating Time. It is within the Boundary(and theorized to confer that power upon individuals) seems to run on an AI (not completely confirmed) and was what was causing the time loops under the directions of Takamagahara.

Current theory says that Relius' soul-experiments wore away at his empathy or otherwise caused him to see people as things, based largely on the fact that he was an apparently normal NiceGuy in the ''Bloodedge Experience'' novels. However, it seems as though Relius either always had the ability to see souls or acquired that ability sometime before ''Bloodedge Experience'' since he's already wearing a blindfold-type mask and his masks seem related to his altered vision, which the games confirm allow him to see souls. If the ability to see souls at the expense of individual humans was what eroded his empathy, it's likely Relius was pretty far into his sociopathic ways by the time of Bloodedge Experience and was just doing a good job of hiding it ''a la'' {{Dexter}} or [[FateStayNight Kotomine Kirei]]. Meeting Terumi, who likely encouraged Relius' amorality so Relius could help with Terumi's own goals, was akin to Kotomine meeting Gilgamesh in FateZero: It didn't cause or lead to Relius' lack of empathy, it just served as the catalyst for Relius deciding to embrace the part of himself which he'd previously hidden.

So, for all we know, Ragna, Jin, and Saya could've been Clovers at birth.

[[WMG: Ragna's birth father was Relius, born of an affair.]]

It's common knowledge that the franchise was originally intended as a RPG. Sister series Guilty Gear experimented with that format, so the time is ripe to have another go and perhaps we'll see what they originally intended the series to be like.

So assuming the whole plan of the {{Big Bad}}s was the one they wanted to do all along, that is [[spoiler:using all the soul's of the people in the world to create the "Embryo"]], it can also be assumed that Relius knew about the whole "Chosen people" still being around thing. This can mean that Relius put Ada and Nirvana and his wife into Ignis in order to protect them from the Imperator's literal soul grab (since he knew they were of no relevance to the Master Unit's memory). Relius claimed multiple times that it was simple to create a body out of seither, so he was possibly planning on turning them back to humans again. Combined with the oddly Heartwarming Gag ending, and that he himself outright stated his goals was different from the Imperator's (creating a world where things are not pre-determined is pretty noble considering it's coming from his mouth); his original characterization as a "mad puppeteer" who was only interested in experiments is somewhat questionable now.

* I expect some if not all the heralds being the souls of people already dead [[spoiler: including Platinum/Trinity, the XBlaze cast, Tenjo, etc. Terumi might be the lone exception due to both Izanami not seeing further use for him and his death by Time Eater]]