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** Again, ''only the furniture with faces were once people''. The footstool did not have a face and was not previously a person; it was a dog, which is not the same thing as a person. All moving peices of furniture without faces were either animals or normal furniture before the curse,
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[[WMG:The enchantress is just trying to help, and is on the beasts side.]]
The enchantress seems very like the random magic users in a lot of fairy tales, she is good at heart but doesn’t really know enough about humans to make the punishment or reward fit the action. If the beast was in fact 11 when she cursed him, she was trying to stop him from growing up to be like Gaston (which, it has been pointed out, would be very bad for a person in power) since he doesn’t seem to have any parents and the only other people around do not have any authority. True her approach was overkill, but it does seem to have work.
Furthermore, the enchantress seems to have done everything she could to avoid the beast dying. She left him the magic mirror. Also that rose seems to have been a big draw for people who ought to know better, so it plays a big role in getting Belle to the castle and talking to the beast. You could even argue that the transformation sequence activating at the exact moment it did saved his life.
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*Read the fanfiction of TrudiRose. Both of these ideas (Gaston getting cursed, Gaston and Belle working it out) are explored in various of her stories.
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* In his first real scene he refers to himself as The Beast. It could be a mocking self-awareness towards his appearance or that could just be what he sees himself. If you ask Belle at Disneyland she apparently says that he was a Beast so long that he forgot his real name. Glen Keane (Beast's animator) said that the longer he spent as a Beast the more animal he became and that after ten years he was more or less half and half. He couldn't remember how to read, using a spoon was beyond him, he was barely wearing any clothes. Keane also said that if Belle had never showed up (or came back) he would have eventually degenerated far enough that he would abandon clothes, forget how to speak and be consumed by his animalistic instincts and lose his human mind forever. This lends credibility to the "its been too long" idea. Maybe he hasn't forgotten and just doesn't identify with it anymore.
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[[WMG:TheFrenchRevolution took place while the Prince was in beast form.]]
The monarchy sent him to live in some remote castle because he was such a SpoiledBrat and they were tired of dealing with him. He escaped the Revolution because he was quietly assumed dead when he turned into a Beast. This is why the Beast doesn't seem to rule over anything even though he's a "prince" and there don't seem to be any other royals. And note that he's actually only referred to as a prince in the prologue, back when the monarchy was intact.
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*But what about the footstool? Sure he wasn't a human, but he ended up being more than just an animated furniture item--he was an actual dog. But he didn't have a face...
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*** In my original post, I simply meant it as a plausible theory, and as most seem to agree that she (the enchantress) is a JerkAss, then she might not have thought about preserving the Beast's youth. It could simply be negligent oversight, and that she just meant to curse them, and given no thought that the Beast might age, while the servants do not. Or, it was her being even more cruel by having the master eventually age and die and leave the servants with no one to serve, thus they become no more meaningful than the items they resemble? Utter cruelty, yes, but for someone who cursed a whole castle for one person's mistake, you can't really expect her to pull punches.
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* At the beginning of the movie we see that the Beast has regressed to an animalistic state, walking on all fours and growling ferociously. Perhaps by that point the curse was [[TheMindIsAPlaythingOfTheBody working its effect on his mind]] and he actually forgot his name in addition to how to behave like a human, and didn't remember it until he was returned to his proper form.
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believing the the dishes and furniture are speaking to her, when really they're not. She lost herself just enough at first to see The Beast, who in reality was an ugly, very hairy and unkept man, as some sort of inhuman Beast, perhaps as a coping mechanism for not wanting to see her cruel captor as simply a man without much of a conscience but a lower creature who was such. Ultimately, she succumbs to the Stockholm Syndrome and comes to believe that she is in love with her captor. In the end, she becomes completely psychotic, believing that she has changed him into a kind, handsome hero. Her delusions were induced by the books she read and perhaps lack of sleep and other vital stuff.

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believing the the dishes and furniture are speaking to her, when really they're not. She lost herself just enough at first to see The Beast, who in reality was an ugly, very hairy and unkept man, as some sort of inhuman Beast, perhaps as a coping mechanism for not wanting to see her cruel captor as simply a man without much of a conscience but a lower creature who was such. Ultimately, she succumbs to the Stockholm Syndrome and comes to believe that she is in love with her captor. In the end, she becomes completely psychotic, believing that she has changed him into a kind, handsome hero. Her delusions were induced [[BookWorm by the books she read read]] and perhaps lack of sleep and other vital stuff.
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[[WMG:Belle, [[WMG:[[UnreliableNarrator All is not as it seems in this story.]] The real story is as follows: Belle, victim to a vicious kidnapping, begins to lose her mind in captivity,]]
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[[WMG:Belle, victim to a vicious kidnapping, begins to lose her mind in captivity,]]
believing the the dishes and furniture are speaking to her, when really they're not. She lost herself just enough at first to see The Beast, who in reality was an ugly, very hairy and unkept man, as some sort of inhuman Beast, perhaps as a coping mechanism for not wanting to see her cruel captor as simply a man without much of a conscience but a lower creature who was such. Ultimately, she succumbs to the Stockholm Syndrome and comes to believe that she is in love with her captor. In the end, she becomes completely psychotic, believing that she has changed him into a kind, handsome hero. Her delusions were induced by the books she read and perhaps lack of sleep and other vital stuff.
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** Chip has a face, so I presume that only objects with faces are actually people.

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I got this from the above WMG about the alternate [[BrokenAesop Broken Aesops]]. The idea is that Beast was jsut as much of a jerk as Gaston, but was given a chance to change, while Gaston didn't. But Gaston did indeed have as many opportunities to change, and even knew Belle (the main catalyst for Beast) well before the Beast did. The key difference was that Beast was horrified, not just by his own change, but by the curse being inflicted on his servants. As has been stated before, it seems pretty unfair that they were punished for his offence (especially the children), and I beleive this made Beast realize what a truly selfish jerk he was. He saw how his action affected all thsoe around him, and his bitterness and rage at the start of the film was from his guilt and self-hatred more than anything else. This also explains why the servants didn't seem all that upset about it, even after he let her go; they seemed more upset over the fact taht he lost his one true love than about the curse, and even Cogworth seemed resigned to their fate. They never blamed him for what happened; they just wanted him to stop hating himself and find the love he needed to breka the spell. As to how this ties to comparisons with Gaston: the servants did challenge Beast to change even before Belle arrived, and while they followed his orders in general, they were more than willing to breka or ignore them when necessary (like helping Maurice). Gaston, on the other hand, has his near-sociopathic self-indulgence fueled by the enabling villagers. He is never questioned or challenged, except by Belle. This is key: it shows that Belle BY HERSELF could not change Gaston nor Beast, and the best part is ''she knew this''. She knew that [[LoveRedeems]] wouldn't work; Gaston was a [[Jerkass]] through and through, and she was ready to write Beast off as one too. it was only after the servants told Beast what he did wrong and showed him the folly of his ways (something that would never happen to Gaston) did she see anything worth saving in him. It may seem like random rambling from me, but it seems to me that, at least in the Disney version, the servants' role in the Beast's redemption is severly overshadowed.

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I got this from the above WMG about the alternate [[BrokenAesop Broken Aesops]]. The idea is that Beast was jsut as much of a jerk as Gaston, but was given a chance to change, while Gaston didn't. But Gaston did indeed have as many opportunities to change, and even knew Belle (the main catalyst for Beast) well before the Beast did.

The key difference was that Beast was horrified, not just by his own change, but by the curse being inflicted on his servants. As has been stated before, it seems pretty unfair that they were punished for his offence (especially the children), and I beleive this made Beast realize what a truly selfish jerk he was. He saw how his action affected all thsoe around him, and his bitterness and rage at the start of the film was from his guilt and self-hatred more than anything else. This also explains why the servants didn't seem all that upset about it, even after he let her go; they seemed more upset over the fact taht he lost his one true love than about the curse, and even Cogworth seemed resigned to their fate. They never blamed him for what happened; they just wanted him to stop hating himself and find the love he needed to breka the spell. As to how this ties to comparisons with Gaston: the servants did challenge Beast to change even before Belle arrived, and while they followed his orders in general, they were more than willing to breka or ignore them when necessary (like helping Maurice). Gaston, on the other hand, has his near-sociopathic self-indulgence fueled by the enabling villagers. He is never questioned or challenged, except by Belle.

This is key: it shows that Belle BY HERSELF could not change Gaston nor Beast, and the best part is ''she knew this''. She knew that [[LoveRedeems]] [[LoveRedeems her love alone]] wouldn't work; Gaston was a [[Jerkass]] JerkAss through and through, and she was ready to write Beast off as one too. it was only after the servants told Beast what he did wrong and showed him the folly of his ways (something that would never happen to Gaston) did she see anything worth saving in him. It may seem like random rambling from me, but it seems to me that, at least in the Disney version, the servants' role in the Beast's redemption is severly overshadowed.


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** Another [[{{FridgeBrilliance}} fridgy]] guess from the same troper: the reason Belle knew she couldn't change Gaston or Beast through ThePowerOfLove? She was [[{{GenreSavvy}} an avid reader and quite intelligent]], and [[{{FridgeLogic}} realized the inherent flaws in such a fairy tale-like situation she found herself in.]]
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[[WMG: The Beast's servants already started his [[HeelFaceTurn Heel Face Turn]]; Belle only finished it.]]
I got this from the above WMG about the alternate [[BrokenAesop Broken Aesops]]. The idea is that Beast was jsut as much of a jerk as Gaston, but was given a chance to change, while Gaston didn't. But Gaston did indeed have as many opportunities to change, and even knew Belle (the main catalyst for Beast) well before the Beast did. The key difference was that Beast was horrified, not just by his own change, but by the curse being inflicted on his servants. As has been stated before, it seems pretty unfair that they were punished for his offence (especially the children), and I beleive this made Beast realize what a truly selfish jerk he was. He saw how his action affected all thsoe around him, and his bitterness and rage at the start of the film was from his guilt and self-hatred more than anything else. This also explains why the servants didn't seem all that upset about it, even after he let her go; they seemed more upset over the fact taht he lost his one true love than about the curse, and even Cogworth seemed resigned to their fate. They never blamed him for what happened; they just wanted him to stop hating himself and find the love he needed to breka the spell. As to how this ties to comparisons with Gaston: the servants did challenge Beast to change even before Belle arrived, and while they followed his orders in general, they were more than willing to breka or ignore them when necessary (like helping Maurice). Gaston, on the other hand, has his near-sociopathic self-indulgence fueled by the enabling villagers. He is never questioned or challenged, except by Belle. This is key: it shows that Belle BY HERSELF could not change Gaston nor Beast, and the best part is ''she knew this''. She knew that [[LoveRedeems]] wouldn't work; Gaston was a [[Jerkass]] through and through, and she was ready to write Beast off as one too. it was only after the servants told Beast what he did wrong and showed him the folly of his ways (something that would never happen to Gaston) did she see anything worth saving in him. It may seem like random rambling from me, but it seems to me that, at least in the Disney version, the servants' role in the Beast's redemption is severly overshadowed.
**A sort of sub-WMG from [[{{@/Vermillion}} this same troper]]: the Beast/Gaston parallels can be seen as an allegory for substance abuse.
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** The Enchantress in the original tale was a JerkAss who cursed the prince largely out of spite, and there's no reason to assume anything different here.
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* The problem with that is it would seem rather cruel for the enchantress to curse a CHILD for being petulant? All children are mean and selfish at the age of 11. I'm still under the belief that the Beast was at least in his late teens/early twenties when the spell was cast---and simply had to wait 21 years before the spell became permanent. Even if he was an organically cursed person, he was still a creature made of magic and could've easily remained trapped in the same age as the others until the spell was broken. Ergo, the entire castle was practically trapped in time and would've [[FateWorseThanDeath remained like that forever]] if Belle didn't drop by.
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[[WMG: The ten years passing, and the rose wilting at Beast's 21st year may not be a continuity mistake]]
If you think about it, it seems a mistake that they say 10 years have passed when the rose is supposed to wilt when Beast turns 21, making him 11 when he was cursed. But the curse supposedly paused the cursed people at the age it was set, so it seems impossible for both to be true and not have Belle be a pedophile, or Beast to be an abnormally developed 11 year old. But the Beast is the only ORGANIC cursed person, everyone else was turned into normally inanimate and unaging items. The Prince was turned into an organic and aging being, so perhaps he was 11 when cursed, and aged to 21, where everyone else didn't age because of the nature of what they were turned into?
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*That's an interesting idea and all, but then how do you explain Chip?
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** [[RuleThirtyFour "Beast" is also what she calls him in the bedroom.]]
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[[WMG: LeFou is Belle's SpearCounterpart]]
Just as Gaston is the Beast's EvilCounterpart, so to is LeFou Belle's SpearCounterpart. If you think about their roles in the relationship with Gaston and Beast, while Belle doesn't take any of the Beast's crap lying down, LeFou is utterly and totally dominated by Gaston, and barely even has a will of his own anymore. In the end, which pairing is better off for it? Also, what was the original meaning behind this story?
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[[WMG: The story Belle described is NOT ''BeautyAndTheBeast'']]
If anything, its ''SleepingBeauty''. She doesn't once describe ANYTHING pertaining to BeautyAndTheBeast, original story or otherwise, except the magic spells and maybe the far-off places. She says:
"Far off places, daring swordfights, magic spells, a prince in disguise!" "Oh, isn't this amazing?/ It's my favorite part because you'll see/ here's where she meets prince charming/but she won't discover tht it's him/'till chapter three."

Firstly, the story for ''SleepingBeauty'' starts off "Once upon a time", whereas BeautyAndTheBeast doesn't. Second, there are no swords in th story at all, but Phillip takes down Maleficent with a one-sided sword-fight. The magic spell is not just the curse, but the fairy gifts. The prince in disguise and the lyrics relates to how Phillip looks rather un-princely in his riding costume, and no, se doesn't discover that he's a prince until much later (which is the third act).

The movie, when the lyrics are sung, show the almost exact scene where Aurora and Phillip meet and fall in love, about when Aurora stops avoiding him. Ergo, the story she describes is ''SleepingBeauty''.
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[[WMG: Gaston was cursed too]]
Specifically, to be [[EverythingButTheGirl adored by all but the woman he set his heart on]]. This lead to unrealistic expectations, and he felt compelled to [[{{Pride}} brag]] and [[LargeHam ham it up]] even while not necessarily liking himself much. (His outward ego is so over-the-top it's more like BadBadActing.) The icing on the cake is that the curse made him more freakishly ugly than the Beast, though only he has the power to see this about himself. Alternatively, the root cause may not have been a curse but [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor a wish]] granted by a JerkassGenie.
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There was a complaint in the JBM about the fact that Beast seems to have HUNDREDS of slaves. Well my idea is this; only the characters like Lumière, Cogsworth and Mrs. Pots were people where as the other things such as the spoons and cups were always cups and spoons that the curse had animated.

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There was a complaint in the JBM about the fact that Beast seems to have HUNDREDS of slaves.servants. Well my idea is this; only the characters like Lumière, Cogsworth and Mrs. Pots were people where as the other things such as the spoons and cups were always cups and spoons that the curse had animated.
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[[WMG: Only the furniture with faces were once people]]
There was a complaint in the JBM about the fact that Beast seems to have HUNDREDS of slaves. Well my idea is this; only the characters like Lumière, Cogsworth and Mrs. Pots were people where as the other things such as the spoons and cups were always cups and spoons that the curse had animated.
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* Perhaps he simply did not want to be associated with his former name while stuck as beast, and simply neglected to tell her it? Heck, he could have told her to call him that.
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* But nothing was stopping the young Beast, either. On the other hand, the enchantress might well have cursed Gaston too if she had run into him. So it may have just come down to happenstance.
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* Well, maybe they all learned it from Merlin? Merlin predates all the other Disney magic users. So suppose Merlin invented the spell, teaches it to Nimue (and perhaps others), who go on to teach to others, and so it spreads.
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[[WMG: Gaston spent his whole life trying to gain people's respect.]]
He says that as a kid, he ate four dozen eggs every morning to help him get large. It's unlikely for someone at that age to be so obsessive about it, unless he had severe self-esteem issues. Also, he is good at everything he does exactly because he has been working to be the best at them. Now that he was at last being admired by everybody, Belle's continued rejection of him hit even harder.
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After living in close quarters with the Beast and his servants for several months, she still only ever calls him "Beast." I think it's highly unlikely that she didn't know his real name, so why else would she call him that?

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After living in close quarters with the Beast and his servants for several months, she still only ever calls him "Beast." I think it's highly unlikely that she didn't know his real name, so why else would she call him that?that?

[[WMG: Gaston's given name is '''Beau'''regard.]]
Because the {{Subverted}} ThemeNaming just makes sense.

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