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* BodyMotifs: Eyes for Venus, hands for Jupiter, and the mouth for Neptune. [[spoiler: Venus and Juptiers' devil forms are covered with their motifs, while Neptune's revolves around ichor spewing out of her mouth.]]

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* BodyMotifs: Eyes for Venus, hands for Jupiter, and the mouth for Neptune. [[spoiler: Venus and Juptiers' Jupiters' devil forms are covered with their motifs, while Neptune's revolves around ichor spewing out of her mouth.]]



* PrecisionFStrike: One of the highlights, as noted in a tweet by the creators, is [[WideEyedIdealist Venus]] swearing.

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* PrecisionFStrike: One of the highlights, as noted in a tweet by highlights of the creators, demo is [[WideEyedIdealist Venus]] swearing.
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** Venus is bright and gentle-seeming, but has a mean streak that they hate. [[spoiler: She's also a trans woman, which subverts the seemingly IronicName]].

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** Venus is bright and gentle-seeming, but has a mean streak that they hate. [[spoiler: She's also a trans woman, which subverts the seemingly IronicName]].IronicName.



* [[{{Transsexual}} Transgender]]: [[spoiler: Venus is depicted as being trans, but not necessarily at a point where she's sorted out her feelings or even admitted it to herself. In-universe, the characters and game use male pronouns for her, except after she gets possessed by the devil.]]

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* [[{{Transsexual}} Transgender]]: [[spoiler: Venus is depicted as being trans, but not necessarily at a point where she's sorted out her feelings or even admitted it to herself. In-universe, the characters and game use male pronouns for her, except after she gets possessed by the devil.]]
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* PrecisionFStrike: One of the highlights, as noted in a tweet by the creators, is [[WideEyedIdealist Venus]] swearing.
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* WideEyedIdealist: Played with in regards to Venus, and discussed by the other two. Venus self-admittedly believes things other people say on purpose, and has trouble realizing others' intentions. However, in some routes she reveals a surprising awareness of how unfair things are.

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* BodyMotifs: Eyes for Venus, and hands for Jupiter, representing touch. [[spoiler: Their respective devil forms are covered with them.]]

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* BodyMotifs: Eyes for Venus, and hands for Jupiter, representing touch. and the mouth for Neptune. [[spoiler: Their respective Venus and Juptiers' devil forms are covered with them.their motifs, while Neptune's revolves around ichor spewing out of her mouth.]]



* GodIsEvil: Or at least an oppressive, stifling presence. His voice is described as "Every boy you're afraid of talking at once."

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* GodIsEvil: Or at least an oppressive, stifling presence. His voice is described as "Every "every boy you're afraid of talking at once."



--> "When someone rigs it from the start, then says 'Try Your Best!', doesn't that make you mad? Doesn't that make you so incredibly mad that you never want to try at all?"

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--> "When someone rigs it from the start, then says 'Try Your Best!', doesn't that make you mad? Doesn't that make you so incredibly inconsolably mad that you never want to try at all?"



-->'''Neptune:''' She shouldn't keep living like she's never going to get it off the tip of her tongue.

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* [[{{Transsexual}} Transgender]]: [[spoiler: Venus is depicted as being trans, but not necessarily at a point where she's sorted out her feelings or even admitted it to herself. In-universe the characters and game use male pronouns for her, except after she gets possessed by the devil. The creators and fans solely use female pronouns for her.]]

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* [[{{Transsexual}} Transgender]]: [[spoiler: Venus is depicted as being trans, but not necessarily at a point where she's sorted out her feelings or even admitted it to herself. In-universe In-universe, the characters and game use male pronouns for her, except after she gets possessed by the devil. The creators and fans solely use female pronouns for her.devil.]]

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--> Neptune: What are we going to do, fight over which of us hates ourselves more?

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--> Neptune: -->'''Neptune:''' What are we going to do, fight over which of us hates ourselves more?

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-->-->'''Neptune:''' She's like an ascetic monk at not giving a shit.
-->'''Neptune:''' Ugh of course she's cool. She's all half smile and 'ah, sorry,' and no one bugs her about anything ever. Do you not kinda hate that she's so cool?
-->'''Venus:''' Why? I wish I could be like that.
-->'''Neptune:''' Because it's fake! No one is that invincible. If it hurts you should say so!
-->'''Neptune:''' She shouldn't keep living like she's never going to get it off the tip of her tongue.
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* AlphaBitch: All three members of Group South. They do everything at camp perfectly, love to harass Venus, and are very popular. However, as discussed by Venus and Jupiter, the other camp goers may not even particularly like them; they just don't want to get on Group South's bad side.

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* ExtremeDoormat: Shy Venus, who does things like use a rusty nail to fix a radio when Group South told them to because it's easier just to go along with things.

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* ExtremeDoormat: Shy Venus, who though she does things like use a rusty nail to fix a radio when Group South told them to because it's easier just to go along with things.have moments where she stands up for herself, often bolstered by the efforts of Neptune and Jupiter.
--> Venus can smile and laugh nervously through anything, and the rest of us are invisible for as long as we can endure the secondhand embarrassment.
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* AmbiguouslyBrown: Neptune is darker than the other characters, but her ethnicity is never referenced.
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--> Neptune is very kind or possibly super mean and hates us. But that's okay. She's really funny.


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* StepfordSmiler: Jupiter, as discussed by Neptune and Venus.
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* BrokenAce: Jupiter, who has the best grades in class, is always the starter on teams for sports, and leads when no one else wants to. However, she always self sacrifices and tries to help others at the expense of herself, and she has more deep rooted problems than Venus or Neptune.

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* BrokenAce: Jupiter, who has the best grades in class, is Jupiter excels at sports and schoolwork, always ends up being the starter on teams for sports, leader, and leads when no one else wants to. is seen as cool even by Group South. However, she always has serious issues with self sacrifices and tries loathing, unable to help others at deal with the expense of herself, and she unrealistic expectations everyone else has more deep rooted problems than Venus or Neptune.for her. This is even noted in the Red Ending.
--> Neptune: What are we going to do, fight over which of us hates ourselves more?

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* TheAce: Jupiter, who has the best grades in class, is always the starter on teams for sports, and leads when no one else wants to.
** BrokenAce: However, she always self sacrifices and tries to help others at the expense of herself, and she has more deep rooted problems than Venus or Neptune.



** ReligionIsMagic: Prayers are used to help tune radios, but nobody in the setting is shown to be particularly devout.


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* BrokenAce: Jupiter, who has the best grades in class, is always the starter on teams for sports, and leads when no one else wants to. However, she always self sacrifices and tries to help others at the expense of herself, and she has more deep rooted problems than Venus or Neptune.


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* ReligionIsMagic: Prayers are used to help tune radios, but nobody in the setting is shown to be particularly devout.

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* BrokenPedestal: Neptune and Venus both admire Jupiter for being a genuinely good person, while they view themselves as rotten. This begins to crack if Jupiter is excluded. [[spoiler: Explicitly brought up and defied in the true ending, where they both promise to not idolize her, and accept her as a person.]]


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* BodyMotifs: Eyes for Venus, and hands for Jupiter, representing touch. [[spoiler: Their respective devil forms are covered with them.]]


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* BrokenPedestal: Neptune and Venus both admire Jupiter for being a genuinely good person, while they view themselves as rotten. This begins to crack if Jupiter is excluded. [[spoiler: Explicitly brought up and defied in the true ending, where they both promise to not idolize her, and accept her as a person.]]
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* {{Animesque}}: Only Venus, as their larger eyes stand out as a contrast to Neptune and Jupiter. [[spoiler: Especially pronounced in the Yellow ending]].
* BittersweetEnding: The three color endings are mostly bittersweet, though the True Ending is a GoldenEnding.
** The Yellow ending in particular has the best ending of the three colors, [[spoiler: with Neptune and Jupiter together, and Venus (possibly) coming to grips with her gender. But they're all still stuck in lives they hate, and based on comments in the True Ending, Venus could even be suicidal due to gender dysphoria]].
* BrokenPedestal: Neptune and Venus both admire Jupiter for being a genuinely good person, while they view themselves as rotten. This begins to crack if Jupiter is excluded. [[spoiler: Explicitly brought up and defied in the true ending, where they both promise to not idolize her, and accept her as a person.]]
* BodyHorror: [[spoiler: All of the possessed kids to an extent, but particularly Jupiter]].
* BookEnds: Jupiter trips on a tree root and hurts her leg at 6 pm, and in the Yellow ending, she trips again at 5 am [[spoiler: which leads to Venus being possessed by the devil]].
* CastFullOfGay: Jupiter struggles to deal with being queer, Neptune has accepted her identity but hides it and becomes very defensive, and Venus [[spoiler: doesn't connect her dissatisfaction with her body with being trans until the devil brings it out in her.]]

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* {{Animesque}}: Only Venus, as their whose larger eyes stand out as a contrast to Neptune and Jupiter. [[spoiler: Especially pronounced in the Yellow ending]].
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* BittersweetEnding: The three color endings are mostly bittersweet, though the True Ending is a GoldenEnding.
GoldenEnding.
** The Yellow ending in particular has the best ending of the three colors, [[spoiler: with Neptune and Jupiter together, and Venus (possibly) coming to grips with her gender. But they're all still stuck in lives they hate, and based on comments in the True Ending, Venus could even be suicidal due to gender dysphoria]].
dysphoria]].
* BrokenPedestal: Neptune and Venus both admire Jupiter for being a genuinely good person, while they view themselves as rotten. This begins to crack if Jupiter is excluded. [[spoiler: Explicitly brought up and defied in the true ending, where they both promise to not idolize her, and accept her as a person.]]
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* BodyHorror: [[spoiler: All of the possessed kids to an extent, but particularly Jupiter]].
Jupiter]].
* BookEnds: Jupiter trips on a tree root and hurts her leg at 6 pm, and in the Yellow ending, she trips again at 5 am [[spoiler: which leads to Venus being possessed by the devil]].
devil]].
* CastFullOfGay: Jupiter struggles to deal with being queer, Neptune has accepted her identity but hides it and becomes very defensive, and Venus [[spoiler: doesn't connect her dissatisfaction with her body with being trans until the devil brings it out in her.]] ]]



* ThirdWheel: The core mechanic of the game. Every choice is an interaction between two people. A third is always left out and apart, and prone to being taken by the devil. [[spoiler:If you can circumvent this, you can reach the GoldenEnding]]
* TitleDrop: 4 am begins with the words "We know the devil", regardless of the path taken.
* TomboyAndGirlyGirl: Jupiter is more subdued and quiet compared to the brash Neptune, though their clothes are an inverse of the typical trend that is associated with the trope, as Jupiter wears pants and a military jacket while Neptune wears a skirt. [[spoiler: Extended in the True Ending to Venus, who is the most openly feminine of the three.]]
* TransformationSequence: Described and discussed, but doesn't actually occur, apparently because summer scouts aren't considered important enough for the crystals necessary for it.

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* ThirdWheel: The core mechanic of the game. Every choice is an interaction between two people. A third is always left out and apart, and prone to being taken by the devil. [[spoiler:If you can circumvent this, you can reach the GoldenEnding]]
GoldenEnding.]]
* TitleDrop: 4 am begins with the words "We know the devil", regardless of the path taken.
taken.
* TomboyAndGirlyGirl: Jupiter is more subdued and quiet compared to the brash Neptune, though their clothes are an inverse of the typical trend that is associated with the trope, as Jupiter wears pants and a military jacket while Neptune wears a skirt. [[spoiler: Extended in the True Ending to Venus, who is the most openly feminine of the three.]]
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* TransformationSequence: Described and discussed, but doesn't actually occur, apparently because summer scouts aren't considered important enough for the crystals necessary for it.
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* WillOTheWisp: Venus often gets distracted by lights that nobody else can see, and they have to be reminded they don't exist in one dialogue path.

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* WillOTheWisp: Venus often gets distracted by lights that nobody else can see, and they have has to be reminded they don't exist in one dialogue path.

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The game is available [[https://datenighto.com/game/we-know-the-devil on Date Nighto]] and [[http://store.steampowered.com/app/435300/ on Steam]], and a demo, which takes place before the main game, is available [[https://pillowfight.itch.io/we-know-the-devil here.]] There's also [[https://miaschwartz.itch.io/the-art-of-we-know-the-devil an artbook.]]

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The game is available [[https://datenighto.com/game/we-know-the-devil on Date Nighto]] and [[http://store.steampowered.com/app/435300/ on Steam]], and a demo, which takes Steam]]. A demo (taking place before the main game, game) is available [[https://pillowfight.itch.io/we-know-the-devil here.]] There's also [[https://miaschwartz.itch.io/the-art-of-we-know-the-devil an artbook.]]

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The full game is available [[https://datenighto.com/game/we-know-the-devil on Date Nighto]] and [[http://store.steampowered.com/app/435300/ on Steam]], and a demo is available [[https://pillowfight.itch.io/we-know-the-devil here.]] There's also [[https://miaschwartz.itch.io/the-art-of-we-know-the-devil an artbook.]]

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The full game is available [[https://datenighto.com/game/we-know-the-devil on Date Nighto]] and [[http://store.steampowered.com/app/435300/ on Steam]], and a demo demo, which takes place before the main game, is available [[https://pillowfight.itch.io/we-know-the-devil here.]] There's also [[https://miaschwartz.itch.io/the-art-of-we-know-the-devil an artbook.]]

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The game is available [[https://datenighto.com/game/we-know-the-devil on Date Nighto]] and [[http://store.steampowered.com/app/435300/ on Steam]]. There's also [[https://miaschwartz.itch.io/the-art-of-we-know-the-devil an artbook.]]

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The full game is available [[https://datenighto.com/game/we-know-the-devil on Date Nighto]] and [[http://store.steampowered.com/app/435300/ on Steam]]. Steam]], and a demo is available [[https://pillowfight.itch.io/we-know-the-devil here.]] There's also [[https://miaschwartz.itch.io/the-art-of-we-know-the-devil an artbook.]]
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* DeadpanSnarker: How Neptune expresses herself.

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--> [[spoiler: The Devil:]] Oh. Hi there.
--> Venus: [[spoiler: "I am the devil." Her arm lies on the floor.]]

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--> [[spoiler: The Devil:]] '''The Devil:''']] Oh. Hi there.
--> Venus: '''Venus:''' [[spoiler: "I am the devil." Her arm lies on the floor.]]
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''We Know The Devil'' is a VisualNovel created by Aevee Bee and artist Mia Schwartz, with a [[https://aleclambert.bandcamp.com/album/we-know-the-devil-ost soundtrack]] by Alec Lambert and aesthetic touches and UI by Lulu Blue.

''We Know The Devil'' has no one true protagonist; but someone will always be left out. It’s up to you to decide who that is. Instead of choosing a partner, you follow pairs of characters as they learn about themselves and wait for the devil to appear.

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''We Know The the Devil'' is a VisualNovel created by Aevee Bee and artist Mia Schwartz, with a [[https://aleclambert.bandcamp.com/album/we-know-the-devil-ost soundtrack]] by Alec Lambert and aesthetic touches and UI by Lulu Blue.

''We Know The the Devil'' has no one true protagonist; but someone will always be left out. It’s up to you to decide who that is. Instead of choosing a partner, you follow pairs of characters as they learn about themselves and wait for the devil to appear.

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The game is available [[https://datenighto.com/game/we-know-the-devil on Date Nighto]] and [[http://store.steampowered.com/app/435300/ on Steam]].

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The game is available [[https://datenighto.com/game/we-know-the-devil on Date Nighto]] and [[http://store.steampowered.com/app/435300/ on Steam]].
Steam]]. There's also [[https://miaschwartz.itch.io/the-art-of-we-know-the-devil an artbook.]]

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''We Know The Devil'' is a VisualNovel created by Aevee Bee and artist Mia Schwartz, with a soundtrack by Alec Lambert and aesthetic touches and UI by Lulu Blue.

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''We Know The Devil'' is a VisualNovel created by Aevee Bee and artist Mia Schwartz, with a soundtrack [[https://aleclambert.bandcamp.com/album/we-know-the-devil-ost soundtrack]] by Alec Lambert and aesthetic touches and UI by Lulu Blue.



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using more neutral pronouns to refer to venus outside of spoilers.


* {{Animesque}}: Only Venus, as his larger eyes stand out as a contrast to Neptune and Jupiter. [[spoiler: Especially pronounced in the Yellow ending]].

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* {{Animesque}}: Only Venus, as his their larger eyes stand out as a contrast to Neptune and Jupiter. [[spoiler: Especially pronounced in the Yellow ending]].



* ExtremeDoormat: Shy Venus, who does things like use a rusty nail to fix a radio when Group South told him to because it's easier just to go along with things.

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* ExtremeDoormat: Shy Venus, who does things like use a rusty nail to fix a radio when Group South told him them to because it's easier just to go along with things.



** Venus is bright and gentle-seeming, but has a mean streak that he hates. [[spoiler: She's also a trans woman, which subverts the seemingly IronicName]].

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** Venus is bright and gentle-seeming, but has a mean streak that he hates.they hate. [[spoiler: She's also a trans woman, which subverts the seemingly IronicName]].



* WillOTheWisp: Venus often gets distracted by lights that nobody else can see, and he has to be reminded they don't exist in one dialogue path.

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* WillOTheWisp: Venus often gets distracted by lights that nobody else can see, and he has they have to be reminded they don't exist in one dialogue path.

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* {{Animesque}}: Only Venus, as his larger eyes stand out as a contrast to Neptune and Jupiter. [[spoiler: Especially pronounced in the Yellow ending]].
* BittersweetEnding: The three color endings are mostly bittersweet, though the True Ending is a GoldenEnding.
** The Yellow ending in particular has the best ending of the three colors, [[spoiler: with Neptune and Jupiter together, and Venus (possibly) coming to grips with her gender. But they're all still stuck in lives they hate, and based on comments in the True Ending, Venus could even be suicidal due to gender dysphoria]].



* DesperatelyLookingForAPurposeInLife: Neptune calls Venus out as searching other people for some vague meaning that Venus can't define. [[spoiler: It turns out she was grappling with gender dysphoria and hadn't come to terms with it yet]].



* EveryoneCanSeeIt: Venus can see the evident attraction between Jupiter and Neptune and is [[spoiler: surprised in some dialogue options that one of them went with Venus instead of with the other.

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* EveryoneCanSeeIt: Venus can see the evident attraction between Jupiter and Neptune and is [[spoiler: surprised in some dialogue options that one of them went with Venus instead of with the other.other]].



** Jupiter is larger than life to Neptune and Venus and is Group West's informal leader.
** Neptune is turbulent and stormy, but has a calm interior
** Venus is bright and gentle-seeming, but has a mean streak that he hates.

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** Jupiter is larger than life to Neptune and Venus and is Group West's informal leader. The military jacket she wears over her uniform even has a large circular red patch as a reference to the planet's most well known feature.
** Neptune is turbulent and stormy, but has a calm interior
interior. Her personality is more fluid that the other two, and can change in a span of a few words.
** Venus is bright and gentle-seeming, but has a mean streak that he hates. [[spoiler: She's also a trans woman, which subverts the seemingly IronicName]].


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* TomboyAndGirlyGirl: Jupiter is more subdued and quiet compared to the brash Neptune, though their clothes are an inverse of the typical trend that is associated with the trope, as Jupiter wears pants and a military jacket while Neptune wears a skirt. [[spoiler: Extended in the True Ending to Venus, who is the most openly feminine of the three.]]

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* MultipleEndings: Its a visual novel, so par with the course. Pre-steam release, the endings were named after [[spoiler:whichever kid became the devil]], the steam achievements have officially titled them the Red, Yellow, Blue, and True endings however.

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* MultipleEndings: Its It's a visual novel, so par with for the course. Pre-steam Pre-Steam release, the endings were named after [[spoiler:whichever kid became the devil]], the steam Steam achievements have officially titled them the Red, Yellow, Blue, and True endings however.
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We Know The Devil is a VisualNovel created by Aevee Bee and artist Mia Schwartz, with a soundtrack by Alec Lambert and aesthetic touches and UI by Lulu Blue.

We Know The Devil has no one true protagonist; but someone will always be left out. It’s up to you to decide who that is. Instead of choosing a partner, you follow pairs of characters as they learn about themselves and wait for the devil to appear.

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We ''We Know The Devil Devil'' is a VisualNovel created by Aevee Bee and artist Mia Schwartz, with a soundtrack by Alec Lambert and aesthetic touches and UI by Lulu Blue.

We ''We Know The Devil Devil'' has no one true protagonist; but someone will always be left out. It’s up to you to decide who that is. Instead of choosing a partner, you follow pairs of characters as they learn about themselves and wait for the devil to appear.

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