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The first ''VideoGame/{{Suikoden}}'' game on the [[UsefulNotes/PlayStation2 PS2]], ''Suikoden III'' revolves around several smaller groups of heroes long before the [[Mystical108 Stars of Destiny]] come into play.

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The first ''VideoGame/{{Suikoden}}'' game on the [[UsefulNotes/PlayStation2 [[Platform/PlayStation2 PS2]], ''Suikoden III'' revolves around several smaller groups of heroes long before the [[Mystical108 Stars of Destiny]] come into play.

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* QuestionableCasting: In-universe. Nadir's Theatre Mode allows you can choose characters to play roles in his plays. [[ScreamingWarrior Hallec]], [[TheStoic Geddoe]] and [[TheDitz Viki]] are some of the least qualified ones to use.



* WTHCastingAgency: In-universe. Nadir's Theatre Mode allows you can choose characters to play roles in his plays. [[ScreamingWarrior Hallec]], [[TheStoic Geddoe]] and [[TheDitz Viki]] are some of the least qualified ones to use.
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Also, the [[TheAnimeOfTheGame manga adaptation]] is [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome awesome incarnate]], as this wiki itself will tell you.

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Also, the Also has a [[TheAnimeOfTheGame manga adaptation]] is [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome awesome incarnate]], as this wiki itself will tell you.
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* OddballInTheSeries: Out of the mainline games, ''Suikoden III'' is easily the weirdest: you have multiple protagonists who can talk instead of single HeroicMime, the new True Runes are about standard ElementalPowers instead of abstract concepts like death and punishment, the antagonists counts as Stars of Destiny, the overworld is a point-and-click map, etc.
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* HatePlague: [[spoiler: Sarah sets up a magic field that amplifies aggressive emotions near Karaya Village, to encourage the Zexen Knights there to raze the village. We later find that even their most hot headed member has the training and self control to disarm and restrain a warrior rushing him with a knife under calmer circumstances, so his and the rest of the Zexen Knights' actions were decidedly and intentionally out of character as a result.]]
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* AwesomeButImpractical: Using Fire and Rage Runes, because their magic attacks are area-based (and the [=AoE=] increases with the stronger spells), making it hard to avoid friendly fire. There are ways to avoid damaging your own tem, like using the few characters that can learn the "Precision" skill or by having everyone wear flame resistant equipment to minimize the collateral damage, but it's more trouble that it worth.

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* AwesomeButImpractical: Using Fire and Rage Runes, because their magic attacks are area-based (and the [=AoE=] increases with the stronger spells), making it hard to avoid friendly fire. There are ways to avoid damaging your own tem, like using the few characters that can learn the "Precision" skill or by having everyone wear flame resistant wearing flame-resistant equipment to minimize the collateral damage, but it's more trouble that it than it's worth.
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* AwesomeButImpractical: Using Fire and Rage Runes, because their magic attacks are area-based (and the [=AoE=] increases with the stronger spells), making it hard to avoid friendly fire. There are ways to avoid damaging your own tem, like using the few characters that can learn the "Precision" skill or by having everyone wear flame resistant equipment to minimize the collateral damage, but it's more trouble that it worth.
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Dark Skinned Blond and Bishonen are no longer tropes


* {{Bishonen}}: A staple in every ''VideoGame/{{Suikoden}}''. This installment presents [[DarkSkinnedBlonde Hugo]], Nash, Borus, Percival, Jacques, Caesar, Albert, the Flame Champion, [[spoiler:Luc]], [[PsychoForHire Yuber]], Sasarai, Fred, Futch, Tuta, Edge, Juan, and there's likely still more.



* DarkSkinnedBlond: Most of the Karayans.
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* CharacterDevelopment: One of the major benefits of the GeodesicCast is getting to know more of the LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters better.

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* CharacterDevelopment: One of the major benefits of the GeodesicCast is getting to know more of the LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters characters better.
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* BreatherEpisode:
** The first two chapters in Thomas' story, as it focus on him interacting with his friends, recruiting allies to Budehuc Castle and fighting against weak monsters.
** [[TeamPet Koroku]]'s chapter. You can interact with the recruited characters and other dogs, but can't change party members, buy items, fight or even leave the castle.
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Deleted Five Man Band example: zero-context. Part of TRS Wick Cleaning - cannot expand due to unfamiliarity.


* FiveManBand: Too many to list. For the leads, we have Chris' Zexen Knights and Geddoe's mercenary company.
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* WeAreExperiencingTechnicalDifficulties: In the William Tell play, if the Son gets hit, the screen will fade black, and Nadir will apologize for that technical difficulty.

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* WeAreExperiencingTechnicalDifficulties: In the William Tell play, if the Son gets hit, the screen will fade to black, and Nadir will apologize for that technical difficulty.
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** Hugo's griffon has renamed [[UnfortunateNames Fubar]].

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** Hugo's griffon has renamed [[UnfortunateNames Fubar]].Fubar.
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* ShoutOut: The child detective Kidd is a rather obvious CaptainErsatz of ''Manga/DetectiveConan''.

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* ShoutOut: The child detective Kidd is a rather obvious CaptainErsatz of ''Manga/DetectiveConan''.''Manga/CaseClosed''.
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* PowerTrio: Hugo, Geddoe and Chris. [[spoiler:Geddoe, Wyatt and the Flame champion]]

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* PowerTrio: %%* Power Trio: Hugo, Geddoe and Chris. [[spoiler:Geddoe, Wyatt and the Flame champion]]champion]] %% Needs to elaborate how the trio tropes applies to the three heroes.

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%%* AnAxeToGrind: Leo, Hallec.



%%* TheBerserker: Hallec



%%* BigEater: Wan Fu.



%%* BoisterousBruiser: Ace, Dupa, Hallec.



* CloudCuckooLander
%%** Viki, as usual.
** Eike is possibly more subdued case of this. He goes missing for long periods of time, even warranting search parties because he wants to read in a secret shelter. He's not entirely in the same world as the rest of his group to say the least.



%%* DualWielding: Hallec, Yuber.



* EyepatchOfPower

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* EyepatchOfPower EyepatchOfPower:



%%* FieryRedhead: Lilly Pendragon and Emily.



* FourTemperamentEnsemble

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* FourTemperamentEnsemble FourTemperamentEnsemble:



** [[spoiler:Luc's group -- Luc is Melancholic, Sara is Supine, Yuber is Sanguine and Albert is Phlegmatic.]]

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** [[spoiler:Luc's group -- Luc The Destroyers: [[spoiler:Luc]] is Melancholic, Sara is Supine, Yuber is Sanguine and Albert is Phlegmatic.]]



%%* GenkiGirl: Mel and Shabon.



* HeroicBSOD

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* HeroicBSOD HeroicBSOD:



* HopelessBossFight: Subverted. Other than the duels against Guillaume (as Melville) and Yuber, every boss battle is winnable.

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* HopelessBossFight: Subverted. Other than the duels against Guillaume (as Melville) and Yuber, Yuber (as Hugo), every boss battle is winnable.



* InexplicableTreasureChests

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* InexplicableTreasureChests InexplicableTreasureChests:



* JerkAss
** [[spoiler: Luc once more]]

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* JerkAss
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** [[spoiler: Luc once more]]The Zexen Council is full of pompous, self-righteous, money-hungry jerks.



*** Heck, the entire Zexen Council is made of of pompous, self-righteous, money-hungry jerks.



* LargeHam

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* LargeHam LargeHam:



* LukeIAmYourFather

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* LukeIAmYourFather LukeIAmYourFather:



* MyCountryRightOrWrong

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* MyCountryRightOrWrong MyCountryRightOrWrong:



%%* PrettyInMink



* TheQuisling: Franz, a Mantor trainer trying to earn second class citizenship for his hometown, Le Buque. Unlike most examples, he's treated Sympathetically (Foolish, but sympathetic) -- since everyone else in Le Buque just sit on their asses and complain about the conditions. Geddoe pointed that out in his [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome CMOA]].

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* TheQuisling: Franz, a Mantor trainer trying to earn second class citizenship for his hometown, Le Buque. Unlike most examples, he's treated Sympathetically (Foolish, but sympathetic) -- since everyone else in Le Buque just sit on their asses and complain about the conditions. Geddoe pointed that out in his [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome CMOA]].



* TheStrategist

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* TheStrategist TheStrategist:



* TogetherInDeath: [[spoiler: Luc and Sarah at the end of his path.]]
%%* TricksterMentor: Estella.

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* TogetherInDeath: [[spoiler: Luc [[spoiler:Luc and Sarah at the end of his path.]]
%%* TricksterMentor: Estella.
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The first ''VideoGame/{{Suikoden}}'' game on the [[UsefulNotes/PlayStation2 PS2]], ''Suikoden III'' revolves around several smaller groups of heroes long before the [[OneHundredAndEight Stars of Destiny]] come into play.

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The first ''VideoGame/{{Suikoden}}'' game on the [[UsefulNotes/PlayStation2 PS2]], ''Suikoden III'' revolves around several smaller groups of heroes long before the [[OneHundredAndEight [[Mystical108 Stars of Destiny]] come into play.

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* WeAreExperiencingTechnicalDifficulties: In the William Tell play, if the Son gets hit, the screen will fade black, and Nadir will apologize for that technical difficulty.



* WilliamTelling: William Tell is one of the plays avaiable in "Theater Mode".

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* WilliamTelling: William Tell is one of the plays avaiable available in "Theater Mode".
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''III'' is set fifteen years after the events of ''[[VideoGame/SuikodenII II]]'', during an uneasy cease-fire between the Grassland tribes and the mercantile nation of the Zexen Confederacy. The Holy Kingdom of Harmonia is waiting for the truce to [[LetsYouAndHimFight hurry up and expire]] so they can launch their offensive. When a diplomat is assassinated before peace negotiations are complete, [[WarWasBeginning war is raging]] once again. The first act of ''III'' sounds a lot like the second game. However, the "Trinity Sight" system allows players to switch control between four characters, [[RashomonStyle each with a peculiar view of events:]]

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''III'' is set fifteen years after the events of ''[[VideoGame/SuikodenII II]]'', during an uneasy cease-fire between the Grassland [[{{Arcadia}} Grassland]] tribes and the [[PrivatelyOwnedSociety mercantile nation nation]] of the Zexen Confederacy. The [[TheEmpire Holy Kingdom of Harmonia Harmonia]] is waiting for the truce to [[LetsYouAndHimFight hurry up and expire]] so they can launch their offensive. When a diplomat is assassinated before peace negotiations are complete, [[WarWasBeginning war is raging]] once again. The first act of ''III'' sounds a lot like the second game. However, the "Trinity Sight" system allows players to switch control between four characters, [[RashomonStyle each with a peculiar view of events:]]
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* Geddoe, officer in a ragtag [[ArmyOfThievesAndWhores "Frontier Defense Force"]] who perform duties for Harmonia that the Temple would rather not touch. Apart from him, each unit is named for [[PlayingCardMotifs a card suit.]]

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* Geddoe, officer in a ragtag [[ArmyOfThievesAndWhores "Frontier Defense Force"]] who perform duties for Harmonia that the Temple would rather not touch. Apart from him, each unit is named for [[PlayingCardMotifs after a card suit.]]{{playing card|Motifs}}.
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The first ''VideoGame/{{Suikoden}}'' game on the [=PS2=], ''Suikoden III'' revolves around several smaller groups of heroes long before the [[OneHundredAndEight Stars of Destiny]] come into play.

'''III'' is set fifteen years after the events of ''[[VideoGame/SuikodenII II]]'', during an uneasy cease-fire between the Grassland tribes and the mercantile nation of the Zexen Confederacy. The Holy Kingdom of Harmonia is waiting for the truce to [[LetsYouAndHimFight hurry up and expire]] so they can launch their offensive. When a diplomat is assassinated before peace negotiations are complete, [[WarWasBeginning war is raging]] once again. The first act of ''III'' sounds a lot like the second game. However, the "Trinity Sight" system allows players to switch control between four characters, [[RashomonStyle each with a peculiar view of events:]]

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The first ''VideoGame/{{Suikoden}}'' game on the [=PS2=], [[UsefulNotes/PlayStation2 PS2]], ''Suikoden III'' revolves around several smaller groups of heroes long before the [[OneHundredAndEight Stars of Destiny]] come into play.

'''III'' ''III'' is set fifteen years after the events of ''[[VideoGame/SuikodenII II]]'', during an uneasy cease-fire between the Grassland tribes and the mercantile nation of the Zexen Confederacy. The Holy Kingdom of Harmonia is waiting for the truce to [[LetsYouAndHimFight hurry up and expire]] so they can launch their offensive. When a diplomat is assassinated before peace negotiations are complete, [[WarWasBeginning war is raging]] once again. The first act of ''III'' sounds a lot like the second game. However, the "Trinity Sight" system allows players to switch control between four characters, [[RashomonStyle each with a peculiar view of events:]]
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'''III'' is Smset fifteen years after the events of ''[[VideoGame/SuikodenII II]]'', during an uneasy cease-fire between the Grassland tribes and the mercantile nation of the Zexen Confederacy. Meanwhile, the Holy Kingdom of Harmonia is waiting for a secret truce with the Grasslanders to hurry up and expire so they can launch their offensive. This simmering pot of tensions boils over with a single horrific act, and the chain of events is filtered through the eyes -- and guided by the actions of -- several protagonists:

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'''III'' is Smset set fifteen years after the events of ''[[VideoGame/SuikodenII II]]'', during an uneasy cease-fire between the Grassland tribes and the mercantile nation of the Zexen Confederacy. Meanwhile, the The Holy Kingdom of Harmonia is waiting for a secret the truce with the Grasslanders to [[LetsYouAndHimFight hurry up and expire expire]] so they can launch their offensive. This simmering pot When a diplomat is assassinated before peace negotiations are complete, [[WarWasBeginning war is raging]] once again. The first act of tensions boils over ''III'' sounds a lot like the second game. However, the "Trinity Sight" system allows players to switch control between four characters, [[RashomonStyle each with a single horrific act, and the chain peculiar view of events is filtered through the eyes -- and guided by the actions of -- several protagonists:
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The first ''VideoGame/{{Suikoden}}'' game on the [=PS2=], ''Suikoden III'' revolves around several smaller groups of heroes long before the [[OneHundredAndEight Stars of Destiny]] come into play. Set fifteen years after the events of ''VideoGame/SuikodenII'', it begins with an uneasy cease-fire between the Grassland tribes and the mercantile nation of the Zexen Confederacy. Meanwhile, the Holy Kingdom of Harmonia is waiting for a secret truce with the Grasslanders to hurry up and expire so they can launch their offensive. This simmering pot of tensions boils over with a single horrific act, and the chain of events is filtered through the eyes -- and guided by the actions of -- several protagonists:

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The first ''VideoGame/{{Suikoden}}'' game on the [=PS2=], ''Suikoden III'' revolves around several smaller groups of heroes long before the [[OneHundredAndEight Stars of Destiny]] come into play. Set play.

'''III'' is Smset
fifteen years after the events of ''VideoGame/SuikodenII'', it begins with ''[[VideoGame/SuikodenII II]]'', during an uneasy cease-fire between the Grassland tribes and the mercantile nation of the Zexen Confederacy. Meanwhile, the Holy Kingdom of Harmonia is waiting for a secret truce with the Grasslanders to hurry up and expire so they can launch their offensive. This simmering pot of tensions boils over with a single horrific act, and the chain of events is filtered through the eyes -- and guided by the actions of -- several protagonists:



Also, the manga adaptation is [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome awesome incarnate]], as this wiki itself will tell you.

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Also, the [[TheAnimeOfTheGame manga adaptation adaptation]] is [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome awesome incarnate]], as this wiki itself will tell you.

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