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* ContinuityNod: Both Sirrus and Achenar react with recognition upon meeting The Stranger since they'd already met in the first game.

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* ContinuityNod: Both Sirrus and Achenar appear to react with recognition upon meeting The Stranger since they'd already met Stranger, which checks with events in the first game.game, even if the canonicity of their communication through the books is up for debate.
** [[VideoGame/MystIIIExile Saavedro's actions]] haven't been forgotten; the study in Tomahna still bears the burnt tapestries his fire caused (and you can even relive the moment through Yeesha's necklace for a full flashback). Achenar also recalls his interactions with his people most frequently in his journals.
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* AndIMustScream: Sirrus and Achenar were imprisoned in Spire and Haven respectively, completely alone, for over 20 years. Which is fair enough, as they'd done exactly the same thing to Saavedro ForTheEvulz.

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* AndIMustScream: Though it's better than what was implied with their experiences in Trap Books in the original game, Sirrus and Achenar were imprisoned in Spire and Haven respectively, nevertheless completely alone, alone and isolated for over nearly 20 years. Which is years in their Prison Ages, the former not even having wildlife for company. Given their actions, it's ultimately fair enough, as and the karma is made equivalent in that they'd done exactly the same thing to Saavedro ForTheEvulz.

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* BambooTechnology: Achenar apparently built a rail-based chair in Haven using this [[spoiler: that leads all the way back to the Linking Chamber at the start.]]

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* BambooTechnology: Achenar apparently built a rail-based chair in Haven using this [[spoiler: that [[spoiler:that leads all the way back to the Linking Chamber at the start.]]



* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: Yeesha]] is safe, but [[spoiler:Achenar]] dies in a [[spoiler:RedemptionEqualsDeath moment]].

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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: Yeesha]] [[spoiler:Yeesha]] is safe, but [[spoiler:Achenar]] dies in a [[spoiler:RedemptionEqualsDeath moment]].



* ChessMotifs: Yes Sirrus, Atrus made a [[IncrediblyLamePun Légal move]].

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* ChessMotifs: Yes Sirrus, Atrus made a [[IncrediblyLamePun [[{{Pun}} Légal move]].



* DiedInYourArmsTonight: [[spoiler: Achenar]] dies in [[spoiler:Yeesha's arms]].

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* DiedInYourArmsTonight: [[spoiler: Achenar]] [[spoiler:Achenar]] dies in [[spoiler:Yeesha's arms]].



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* KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler: Sirrus and Achenar. Sirrus' body is an EasterEgg you can find if you look at the metal tube once you enter his hideout. You see Sirrus sleeping in the tube.]] Even then, [[spoiler: Sirrus isn't dead -- [[FateWorseThanDeath only his mind is]], as solving the memory lock he holds on Yeesha essentially destroys his soul, [[AndIMustScream rendering Sirrus a vegetable forever]]]].

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* KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler: Sirrus [[spoiler:Sirrus and Achenar. Sirrus' body is an EasterEgg you can find if you look at the metal tube once you enter his hideout. You see Sirrus sleeping in the tube.]] Even then, [[spoiler: Sirrus [[spoiler:Sirrus isn't dead -- [[FateWorseThanDeath only his mind is]], as solving the memory lock he holds on Yeesha essentially destroys his soul, [[AndIMustScream rendering Sirrus a vegetable forever]]]].



* LockAndKeyPuzzle: There are 46,656 possible codes to unlock the door [[spoiler: beneath the old Memory Chamber.]] This code is randomized.

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* LockAndKeyPuzzle: There are 46,656 possible codes to unlock the door [[spoiler: beneath [[spoiler:beneath the old Memory Chamber.]] This code is randomized.



* MindReformatDeath: [[spoiler:Sirrus, after snapping in Spire,]] takes over where the two brothers left off 20 years ago during the events of Myst. Their original plan was retconned into using a primitive computer-like machine [[note]]which begs the question of FridgeLogic on how this is supposed to work in the 1800s.[[/note]] to draw out Atrus' mind and his knowledge of the Art, to subjugate countless undiscovered Ages. [[spoiler:Sirrus seems to]] die this way when he [[spoiler: kidnaps Yeesha]], attempts to [[spoiler: swap minds with her using one of Serenia's containment globes]], and becomes entangled in a battle-of-minds with the player, who, in-tandem with the device and the dream world, severs the metaphysical anchors protecting his essence from being obliterated by the Serenian dream world's chaos and entropy. When done so, [[spoiler:Sirrus' own]] essence flies off into the void and is immediately crushed into oblivion.
* NostalgiaLevel: [[spoiler: Atrus' study and courtyard on Tomahna, taken directly from Exile. It's only accessible after you leave Serenia once. Also, one of the memories in the courtyard is of Katran dandling baby Yeesha and one in the study is Saavedro torching the library and heisting the Descriptive Book for Releeshahn.]]

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* MindReformatDeath: [[spoiler:Sirrus, after snapping in Spire,]] takes over where the two brothers left off 20 years ago during the events of Myst. Their original plan was retconned into using a primitive computer-like machine [[note]]which begs the question of FridgeLogic on how this is supposed to work in the 1800s.[[/note]] to draw out Atrus' mind and his knowledge of the Art, to subjugate countless undiscovered Ages. [[spoiler:Sirrus seems to]] die this way when he [[spoiler: kidnaps [[spoiler:kidnaps Yeesha]], attempts to [[spoiler: swap [[spoiler:swap minds with her using one of Serenia's containment globes]], and becomes entangled in a battle-of-minds with the player, who, in-tandem with the device and the dream world, severs the metaphysical anchors protecting his essence from being obliterated by the Serenian dream world's chaos and entropy. When done so, [[spoiler:Sirrus' own]] essence flies off into the void and is immediately crushed into oblivion.
* NostalgiaLevel: [[spoiler: Atrus' [[spoiler:Atrus' study and courtyard on Tomahna, taken directly from Exile. It's only accessible after you leave Serenia once. Also, one of the memories in the courtyard is of Katran dandling baby Yeesha and one in the study is Saavedro torching the library and heisting the Descriptive Book for Releeshahn.]]



* UndergroundLevel: Spire, for the most part. [[spoiler: Until you see what is either the sun or an electrified planet surface under the clouds.]] Also becomes a...

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* UndergroundLevel: Spire, for the most part. [[spoiler: Until [[spoiler:Until you see what is either the sun or an electrified planet surface under the clouds.]] Also becomes a...
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*** When the sound system blows out causing a partial power failure, Atrus heads off to Rime to get some spare parts.

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*** When the sound system blows out causing a partial power failure, Atrus heads off to Rime to get some spare parts.[[note]]These first two actually break if the only version of Myst you played was the 2021 VR-supported remake, since that version doesn't contain Rime or the crystal viewer.[[/note]]
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* KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler: Sirrus and Achenar. Sirrus' body is an EasterEgg you can find if you look at the metal tube once you enter his hideout. You see Sirrus sleeping in the tube.]] Even then, [[spoiler: Sirrus isn't dead - [[FateWorseThanDeath only his mind is]], as solving the memory lock he holds on Yeesha essentially destroys his soul, [[AndIMustScream rendering Sirrus a vegetable forever]]]].

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* KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler: Sirrus and Achenar. Sirrus' body is an EasterEgg you can find if you look at the metal tube once you enter his hideout. You see Sirrus sleeping in the tube.]] Even then, [[spoiler: Sirrus isn't dead - -- [[FateWorseThanDeath only his mind is]], as solving the memory lock he holds on Yeesha essentially destroys his soul, [[AndIMustScream rendering Sirrus a vegetable forever]]]].



* LostWoods: The first part of Serenia, and your introduction to the Age. However, it's given a twist: the Lost Woods are more like Lost Stones.

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* LostWoods: %%* TheLostWoods: The first part of Serenia, and your introduction to the Age. However, it's given a twist: the Lost Woods are more like Lost Stones. %%So why is this an example?
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* MindReformatDeath: [[spoiler:Sirrus]] takes over where the two brothers left off 20 years ago during the events of Myst. Their original plan was retconned into using a primitive computer-like machine [[note]]which begs the question of FridgeLogic on how this is supposed to work in the 1800s.[[/note]] to draw out Atrus' mind and his knowledge of the Art, to subjugate countless undiscovered Ages. [[spoiler:Sirrus]] dies this way when he [[spoiler: kidnaps Yeesha]], attempts to [[spoiler: swap minds with her using one of Serenia's containment globes]], and becomes entangled in a battle-of-minds with the player, who, in-tandem with the device and the dream world, severs the metaphysical anchors protecting his essence from being obliterated by the Serenian dream world's chaos and entropy. When done so, [[spoiler:Sirrus']] essence flies off into the void and is immediately crushed into oblivion.

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* MindReformatDeath: [[spoiler:Sirrus]] [[spoiler:Sirrus, after snapping in Spire,]] takes over where the two brothers left off 20 years ago during the events of Myst. Their original plan was retconned into using a primitive computer-like machine [[note]]which begs the question of FridgeLogic on how this is supposed to work in the 1800s.[[/note]] to draw out Atrus' mind and his knowledge of the Art, to subjugate countless undiscovered Ages. [[spoiler:Sirrus]] dies [[spoiler:Sirrus seems to]] die this way when he [[spoiler: kidnaps Yeesha]], attempts to [[spoiler: swap minds with her using one of Serenia's containment globes]], and becomes entangled in a battle-of-minds with the player, who, in-tandem with the device and the dream world, severs the metaphysical anchors protecting his essence from being obliterated by the Serenian dream world's chaos and entropy. When done so, [[spoiler:Sirrus']] [[spoiler:Sirrus' own]] essence flies off into the void and is immediately crushed into oblivion.
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* MindReformatDeath: [[spoiler:Sirrus]] takes over where the two brothers left off 20 years ago during the events of Myst. Their original plan was retconned into using a primitive computer-like machine [[note]]which begs the question of FridgeLogic on how this is supposed to work in the 1800s.[[/note]] to draw out Atrus' mind and his knowledge of the Art, to subjugate countless undiscovered Ages. [[spoiler:Sirrus]] dies this way when he [[spoiler: kidnaps Yeesha]], attempts to [[spoiler: swap minds with her using one of Serenia's containment globes]], and becomes entangled in a battle-of-minds with the player, who, in-tandem with the device and Serenia's dream world, severs the metaphysical anchors protecting his essence from being obliterated by the Serenian dream world's chaos and entropy. When done so, [[spoiler:Sirrus']] essence flies off into the void and is immediately crushed into oblivion.

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* MindReformatDeath: [[spoiler:Sirrus]] takes over where the two brothers left off 20 years ago during the events of Myst. Their original plan was retconned into using a primitive computer-like machine [[note]]which begs the question of FridgeLogic on how this is supposed to work in the 1800s.[[/note]] to draw out Atrus' mind and his knowledge of the Art, to subjugate countless undiscovered Ages. [[spoiler:Sirrus]] dies this way when he [[spoiler: kidnaps Yeesha]], attempts to [[spoiler: swap minds with her using one of Serenia's containment globes]], and becomes entangled in a battle-of-minds with the player, who, in-tandem with the device and Serenia's the dream world, severs the metaphysical anchors protecting his essence from being obliterated by the Serenian dream world's chaos and entropy. When done so, [[spoiler:Sirrus']] essence flies off into the void and is immediately crushed into oblivion.
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* MindReformatDeath: [[spoiler:Sirrus]] takes over where the two brothers left off 20 years ago during the events of Myst. Their original plan was retconned into using a primitive computer-like machine [[note]]which begs the question of FridgeLogic on how this is supposed to work in the 1800s.]] to draw out Atrus' mind and his knowledge of the Art. [[spoiler:Sirrus]] dies this way when he [[spoiler: kidnaps Yeesha]], attempts to [[spoiler: swap minds with her using one of Serenia's containment globes]], and becomes entangled in a battle-of-minds with the player, who, in-tandem with the device and Serenia's dream world, severs the metaphysical anchors protecting his essence from being obliterated by the Serenian dream world's chaos and entropy. When done so, [[spoiler:Sirrus']] essence flies off into the void and is immediately crushed into oblivion.

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* MindReformatDeath: [[spoiler:Sirrus]] takes over where the two brothers left off 20 years ago during the events of Myst. Their original plan was retconned into using a primitive computer-like machine [[note]]which begs the question of FridgeLogic on how this is supposed to work in the 1800s.]] [[/note]] to draw out Atrus' mind and his knowledge of the Art.Art, to subjugate countless undiscovered Ages. [[spoiler:Sirrus]] dies this way when he [[spoiler: kidnaps Yeesha]], attempts to [[spoiler: swap minds with her using one of Serenia's containment globes]], and becomes entangled in a battle-of-minds with the player, who, in-tandem with the device and Serenia's dream world, severs the metaphysical anchors protecting his essence from being obliterated by the Serenian dream world's chaos and entropy. When done so, [[spoiler:Sirrus']] essence flies off into the void and is immediately crushed into oblivion.
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* MindReformatDeath: [[spoiler:Sirrus]] takes over where the two brothers left off 20 years ago during the events of Myst. Their original plan was retconned into using a primitive computer-like machine [[note]]which begs the question of FridgeLogic on how this is supposed to work in the 1800s.]] to draw out Atrus' mind and his knowledge of the Art. [[spoiler:Sirrus]] dies this way when he [[spoiler: kidnaps Yeesha]], attempts to [[spoiler: swap minds with her using one of Serenia's containment globes]], and becomes entangled in a battle-of-minds with the player, who, in-tandem with the device and Serenia's dream world, severs the metaphysical anchors protecting his essence from being obliterated by the Serenian dream world's chaos and entropy. When done so, [[spoiler:Sirrus']] essence flies off into the void and is immediately crushed into oblivion.
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* MaybeMagicMaybeMundane: The strategy guide suggests that the Dreamworld may be the product of hallucinations caused by the gases inside the Memory Chamber (though this does not explain the appearance of the Spirit Guide elsewhere in Serenia).

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*** In a memory playback:



---> [[spoiler:'''Achenar:''']] (in a second journal in the swamp): Oh my god... It can't be. It CAN'T!... ...Looked up and saw all of [the mangrees] looking at me. Pointing at the ball, and making that sound... ...[A] Sequence of drawn-out highs and lows... ...This cry I've never heard before... ...Like they were calling [[spoiler:a name. ''MY'' name! THEY'VE GIVEN ME A NAME!]] What am I supposed do with this, father?!! What am I supposed do?

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---> [[spoiler:'''Achenar:''']] (in *** In a second journal in the swamp): swamp:
---> [[spoiler:'''Achenar:''']]:
Oh my god... It can't be. It CAN'T!... ...Looked up and saw all of [the mangrees] looking at me. Pointing at the ball, and making that sound... ...[A] Sequence of drawn-out highs and lows... ...This cry I've never heard before... ...Like they were calling [[spoiler:a name. ''MY'' name! THEY'VE GIVEN ME A NAME!]] What am I supposed do with this, father?!! Father?!! What am I supposed do?
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---> [[spoiler:'''Achenar:''']] ''[crying]'' '''''PLEAAASE!!!!''''' ''[[TheAtoner I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!]]'' It's too late... ''It's too late...!!'' They're[[note]][[spoiler:All of the inhabitants of the ages he killed in cold blood in the past]][[/note]] all dead! All of them!!!

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---> [[spoiler:'''Achenar:''']] [[spoiler:'''Achenar:''']] ''[crying]'' '''''PLEAAASE!!!!''''' ''[[TheAtoner I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!]]'' It's too late... ''It's too late...!!'' They're[[note]][[spoiler:All of the inhabitants of the ages he killed in cold blood in the past]][[/note]] all dead! All of them!!!



----->[[spoiler:[[FamilialBodySnatcher Sirrus in Yeesha's body:]]]] NO! YOU FOOL! MY PERFORMANCE WAS PERFECT!
----->[[spoiler:Achenar:]] Thank you!

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----->[[spoiler:[[FamilialBodySnatcher ----->'''[[spoiler:[[FamilialBodySnatcher Sirrus in Yeesha's body:]]]] body:]]]]''' NO! YOU FOOL! MY PERFORMANCE WAS PERFECT!
----->[[spoiler:Achenar:]] ----->'''[[spoiler:Achenar:]]''' Thank you!
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---> [[spoiler:'''Achenar:''']] [[TheAtoner ''[crying]'' '''''PLEAAASE!!!!''''' ''I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!'']] It's too late... ''It's too late...!!'' They're[[note]][[spoiler:All of the inhabitants of the ages he killed in cold blood in the past]][[/note]] all dead! All of them!!!

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---> [[spoiler:'''Achenar:''']] [[TheAtoner [[spoiler:'''Achenar:''']] ''[crying]'' '''''PLEAAASE!!!!''''' ''I ''[[TheAtoner I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!'']] ANYMORE!]]'' It's too late... ''It's too late...!!'' They're[[note]][[spoiler:All of the inhabitants of the ages he killed in cold blood in the past]][[/note]] all dead! All of them!!!

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