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* OldShame: More like a New Shame (since it came after KingdomOfLoathing, which he still supports), but despite achieving a cult following among people who have actually played it, Jick considers it a failure and hates talking about it.

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* OldShame: More like a New Shame (since it came after KingdomOfLoathing, VideoGame/KingdomOfLoathing, which he still supports), but despite achieving a cult following among people who have actually played it, Jick considers it a failure and hates talking about it.
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* OldShame: More like a New Shame (since it came after KingdomOfLoathing, which he still supports), but despite achieving a cult following among people who have actually played it, Jick considers it a failure and hates talking about it.

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