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** The pen-ultimate version of the script contains scenes of the Postman making a new Holnist creed, centered on mercy, but only after killing Bethlehem[[note]]The BrokenAesop nature of it is why it got scrapped[[/note]]. It also has one of the Benning gatekeepers (who suffered from UncertainDoom in the final cut) as one of his letter carriers, while the fate of Clarke, the [[spoiler:Californian]] postman is left ambiguous.
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** The pen-ultimate penultimate version of the script contains scenes of the Postman making a new Holnist creed, centered on mercy, but only after killing Bethlehem[[note]]The BrokenAesop nature of it is why it got scrapped[[/note]]. It also has one of the Benning gatekeepers (who suffered from UncertainDoom in the final cut) as one of his letter carriers, while the fate of Clarke, the [[spoiler:Californian]] postman is left ambiguous.
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** In earlier versions of the script, the dam settlement (the one with Music/TomPetty) was evisioned as a stand-in for the influential, but reluctant community, akin to Sugarloaf Peak fortress of George Powhatan in the book. Over many following rewrites it was altered out of any recognition or bigger role in the plot.
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** In earlier versions of the script, the dam settlement (the one with Music/TomPetty) was evisioned envisioned as a stand-in for the influential, but reluctant community, akin to the Sugarloaf Peak fortress of George Powhatan in the book. Over many following rewrites it was altered out of any recognition or bigger role in the plot.
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** The original script contains scenes of the Postman making a new Holnist creed, centered on mercy, but only after killing Bethlehem. It also has one of the Benning gatekeepers (who suffered from UncertainDoom in the final cut) as one of his letter carriers, while the fate of Clarke, the [[spoiler:Californian]] postman is left ambiguous.
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** When Costner initially joined the project, he wanted to just adopt the book, as it is. Unfortunately, due to a copyright loophole, any possible adaptation was required by law to use elements of the specific script version from the late 80s, which was InNameOnly. That's also from where Abby's expanded presence comes from.
** Theoriginal pen-ultimate version of the script contains scenes of the Postman making a new Holnist creed, centered on mercy, but only after killing Bethlehem.Bethlehem[[note]]The BrokenAesop nature of it is why it got scrapped[[/note]]. It also has one of the Benning gatekeepers (who suffered from UncertainDoom in the final cut) as one of his letter carriers, while the fate of Clarke, the [[spoiler:Californian]] postman is left ambiguous.
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** In the script, the captured California postal carrier who gets the film's WhamLine is simply taken back to his cell after a shaken Bethlehem stops the execution. In the final film, Bethlehem shoots him in a rage.
** In the script, one of the main letter carriers is one of the Benning gatekeepers, who survived the attack on the town. In the filmed version, his character is from Pineview, and it's never confirmed if anyone survived the sack of Benning.
** In the script, the captured California postal carrier who gets the film's WhamLine is simply taken back to his cell after a shaken Bethlehem stops the execution. In the final film, Bethlehem shoots him in a rage.
** In the script, one of the main letter carriers is one of the Benning gatekeepers, who survived the attack on the town. In the filmed version, his character is from Pineview, and it's never confirmed if anyone survived the sack of Benning.
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* ApprovalOfGod: Despite it being panned by critics and audiences, [[http://www.davidbrin.com/postmanmovie.htm David Brin]] [[ApprovalOfGod liked the movie]], feeling it really captured the spirit of his book in spite of the changes. He had looked on in dismay while numerous scripts had changed the story's message completely, and was glad when Costner took over, rewriting it into one he liked.
* BoxOfficeBomb: The film adaptation made $17,626,234 to it's $80,000,000 budget.
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* ApprovalOfGod: Despite it being panned by critics and audiences, Creator/DavidBrin [[http://www.davidbrin.com/postmanmovie.htm David Brin]] [[ApprovalOfGod liked the movie]], feeling it really captured the spirit of his book in spite of the changes. He had looked on in dismay while numerous scripts had changed the story's message completely, and was glad when Costner took over, rewriting it into one he liked.
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* DuelingWorks: Released on the same day as Creator/JamesCameron's ''Film/{{Titanic|1997}}''. You've probably heard how ''Titanic'' is [[CurbStompBattle one of the highest grossing movies ever made]].
* StarDerailingRole: ''The Postman'' was the third Creator/KevinCostner-driven film of the 1990's to get nuked by critics and not do well at the box office after ''Film/WyattEarp'' and ''Film/{{Waterworld}}'', and he never truly recovered from it, both in acting and directing.
* StarDerailingRole: ''The Postman'' was the third Creator/KevinCostner-driven film of the 1990's to get nuked by critics and not do well at the box office after ''Film/WyattEarp'' and ''Film/{{Waterworld}}'', and he never truly recovered from it, both in acting and directing.
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* DuelingWorks: Released on the same day as Creator/JamesCameron's ''Film/{{Titanic|1997}}''. You've probably heard how ''Titanic'' is [[CurbStompBattle one of the highest grossing highest-grossing movies ever made]].
* StarDerailingRole: ''The Postman'' was the third Creator/KevinCostner-driven film of the1990's 1990s to get nuked by critics and not do well at the box office after ''Film/WyattEarp'' and ''Film/{{Waterworld}}'', and he never truly recovered from it, both in acting and or directing.
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** Creator/KevinCostner originally wanted to play General Bethlehem. He only changed his mind during the reading, realising how vain it would be for him to direct and play the bad guy (and his agent suggesting he should rather play the hero for image and marketing reasons, of course).
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Creator/RonHoward was going to direct with Creator/TomHanks starring.
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** The original script contains scenes of The Postman making a new holist creed, centered on mercy, after killing Bethlehem, has one of the Benning Gatekeepers (who suffered from UncertainDoom in the final cut) as one of his letter carriers, and didn't mention whether or not Bethlehem killed Letter Carrier Clark.
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* StarDerailingRole: ''The Postman'' was the third Creator/KevinCostner-driven film of the 1990's to get nuked by critics and not do well at the box office after ''Wyatt Earp'' and ''Film/{{Waterworld}}'', and he barely recovered from it, both in acting and directing.
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-->Yes, I thought of playing the evil character Bethlehem. Then, I put on my producer’s hat and realised while it was a flashy role, it’d be a mistake for me, a disaster filmically. The only reason to play Bethlehem would be vanity.
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* HeyItsThatGuy: In the movie, the assistant coach of [[Film/RememberTheTitans the Titans]] went on to coach bigger teams. Alternatively, [[Series/FallingSkies Colonel Weaver]]'s a real asshole after this apocalypse.
** A few years later, [[Film/TheSixthSense Abbey had her husband murdered in front of her again]].
** Plus, in-universe, [[spoiler: TomPetty]].
** [[Series/SonsOfAnarchy Opie]] was a postal carrier in post-apocalyptic America in his younger days.
** The mayor of Benning is none other than [[Film/{{Spaceballs}} Colonel Sandurz]].
** A few years later, [[Film/TheSixthSense Abbey had her husband murdered in front of her again]].
** Plus, in-universe, [[spoiler: TomPetty]].
** [[Series/SonsOfAnarchy Opie]] was a postal carrier in post-apocalyptic America in his younger days.
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** Plus, in-universe, [[spoiler: TomPetty]].
** Plus, in-universe, [[spoiler: TomPetty]].