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* EnforcedMethodActing: To make the All-Valley tournament feel more authentic, the production team [[https://www.si.com/tech-media/2018/05/01/karate-kid-movie-oral-history-cobra-kai hosted a real karate tournament on the set at the same time they were filming the characters' fight scenes.]] All of the background fighters were actually competing.

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* EnforcedMethodActing: EnforcedMethodActing:
** Creator/PatMorita and Creator/RalphMacchio were kept separate from the Cobra Kai actors to ensure there was an emotional distance that showed up on screen. For this same reason, Creator/MartinKove was kept away from the rest of the Cobra Kai cast because John Kreese was meant to be cold and distant to his students.
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To make the All-Valley tournament feel more authentic, the production team [[https://www.si.com/tech-media/2018/05/01/karate-kid-movie-oral-history-cobra-kai hosted a real karate tournament on the set at the same time they were filming the characters' fight scenes.]] All of the background fighters were actually competing.
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* StarMakingRole: For Creator/RalphMacchio. Subverted with Creator/ElisabethShue as she was the leading lady, not the star, an important distinction. This was the first film for the latter after doing several commercials in the early 1980s beforehand. After the success of ''The Karate Kid'', Ralph Macchio became a teen idol who was often featured on the covers of magazines like ''Tiger Beat.''

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* StarMakingRole: For Creator/RalphMacchio. Subverted with Creator/ElisabethShue as she was the leading lady, not the star, an important distinction. This was the first film for the latter after doing several commercials in the early 1980s beforehand. After the success of ''The Karate Kid'', Ralph Macchio became a teen idol who was often featured on the covers of magazines like ''Tiger Beat.''Beat" and would be later referenced as such in ''Series/StrangerThings''.
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** A scene was filmed but ultimately deleted where Bobby confronts Kreese immediately after injuring Daniel and quits Cobra Kai by taking off his black belt, throwing it to the ground, and leaving the tournament. Unlike the other deleted scenes, this isn't considered canon as Bobby is still shown with the group in the beginning of ''Film/TheKarateKidPartII'' and ''Series/CobraKai'' confirms he quit at the same time as Johnny and the others following the events of that film.
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** The same goes for the actors playing the 17 year old Cobra Kais. William Zabka was 19, Ron Thomas was 22, and Chad [=McQueen=], Rob Garrison, and Tony O'Dell were all 23.

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** The same goes for the actors playing the 17 year old Cobra Kais. William Zabka Creator/WilliamZabka was 19, Ron Thomas was 22, and Chad [=McQueen=], Rob Garrison, and Tony O'Dell were all 23.



** William Zabka (Johnny) had no martial arts experience prior to being cast in the film, except being an accomplished wrestler.

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** William Zabka Creator/WilliamZabka (Johnny) had no martial arts experience prior to being cast in the film, except being an accomplished wrestler.



** Creator/CrispinGlover was considered for Johnny Lawrence before William Zabka was cast.

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** Creator/CrispinGlover was considered for Johnny Lawrence before William Zabka Creator/WilliamZabka was cast.
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** Ron Thomas (Bobby Brown) was so skilled in martial arts (black belt in Ju-Jitsu) that he was allowed to choreograph his own fight scenes.

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** Ron Thomas (Bobby Brown) was so skilled in martial arts (black belt in Ju-Jitsu) Jiu-Jitsu) that he was allowed to choreograph his own fight scenes.

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* BeamMeUpScotty: Whatever the parodies might tell you, "You're the Best" is not played over a TrainingMontage, but a montage of tournament fights.

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* BeamMeUpScotty: Whatever the parodies might tell you, "You're the Best" is not played over a TrainingMontage, but a montage of tournament fights.fights, not a TrainingMontage.
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* TropeNamers: WaxOnWaxOff, and formerly "[[OrderedToCheat Sweep the Leg]]".
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* DidntThinkThisThrough: The above DeletedScene had Johnny putting a cake where Daniel was about to sit in the school cafeteria, ruining his pants. Problem is, Johnny can handle Daniel in a fistfight, but a harmless prank (no matter how humiliating) like that, Daniel can easily retaliate, which he does, by ruining Johnny’s shirt. The moment Johnny [[OhCrap realizes]] this was a possible outcome is priceless.
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* ReferencedBy:
** ''Manga/CrayonShinChan'' has a story arc, "Kendo dojo" where Shin-Chan trains under a budding kendo trainee named Kenta Musashino before partaking in the Kasukabe Kendo Championship. The entire arc is a WholePlotReference to ''The Karate Kid'' (but with kendo instead of karate), including having Shin-Chan snatch a housefly with chopsticks, a TrainingMontage lifted straight from the film and the "WaxOnWaxOff" line being name-dropped.
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* OnSetInjury: During the Halloween dance fight in ''The Karate Kid'', William Zabka ended up hitting Ralph Macchio in the jaw with a roundhouse at full-force partly because they were rushed with a crunched-for-time shooting schedule due to being a night shoot. Macchio had to spend three days eating meals through a straw.
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** The same goes for the actors playing the 17 year old Cobra Kais. William Zabka was 19, Ron Thomas was 22, and Chad [=McQueen=], Ron Garrison, and Tony O'Dell were all 23.

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** The same goes for the actors playing the 17 year old Cobra Kais. William Zabka was 19, Ron Thomas was 22, and Chad [=McQueen=], Ron Rob Garrison, and Tony O'Dell were all 23.

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* DawsonCasting: Creator/RalphMacchio was 21 when the first film was made, playing a 17 year old. Not many people noticed thanks to Macchio's boyish good looks and high-pitched voice,[[note]]although Macchio himself was very uncomfortable being romantically paired with the 16-year-old Robyn Lively in the third movie[[/note]] making this one of the few effective examples of the trope. Avoided in the reboot, as the kids are actual kids. Poked fun at in a 90's commercial for [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG3f9T92KsU&ab_channel=LooseMooseProds Brisk Iced Tea]].

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Creator/RalphMacchio was 21 when the first film was made, playing a 17 year old. Not many people noticed thanks to Macchio's boyish good looks and high-pitched voice,[[note]]although Macchio himself was very uncomfortable being romantically paired with the 16-year-old Robyn Lively in the third movie[[/note]] making this one of the few effective examples of the trope. Avoided in the reboot, as the kids are actual kids. Poked fun at in a 90's commercial for [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG3f9T92KsU&ab_channel=LooseMooseProds Brisk Iced Tea]].


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** The same goes for the actors playing the 17 year old Cobra Kais. William Zabka was 19, Ron Thomas was 22, and Chad [=McQueen=], Ron Garrison, and Tony O'Dell were all 23.
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** In Japan and South Korea, this film and the entire franchise was released with the title ''Best Kid'' ("ベスト・キッド" in Japanese and "베스트 키드" in Korean) instead of ''The Karate Kid''.

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** In Japan and South Korea, this film and the entire franchise was released with under the title ''Best Kid'' ("ベスト・キッド" in Japanese and "베스트 키드" in Korean) instead of ''The Karate Kid''.
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** Daniel's last name was original Weber, and only changed to [=LaRusso=] after Creator/RalphMacchio was cast.

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** Daniel's last name was original Weber, originally Webber, and it was only changed to [=LaRusso=] after Creator/RalphMacchio was cast.
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* LifeImitatesArt: The AwesomeButImpractical Crane Kick/Technique/Stance was done [[RealityIsUnrealistic for real]] during the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTiJ7A1DLV0 K.O. finish]] of the Lyoto Machida vs. Randy Couture fight, thus making it more plausible than [[ArtisticLicenseMartialArts previously thought]].
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** In Japan, this film and the entire franchise was released with the title ''Best Kid'' instead of ''The Karate Kid''.

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** In Japan, Japan and South Korea, this film and the entire franchise was released with the title ''Best Kid'' ("ベスト・キッド" in Japanese and "베스트 키드" in Korean) instead of ''The Karate Kid''.
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** In Japan, this film and the entire franchise was released with the title ''Best Kid'' instead of ''Karate Kid''.

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** In Japan, this film and the entire franchise was released with the title ''Best Kid'' instead of ''Karate ''The Karate Kid''.

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* CompletelyDifferentTitle: Initially released as ''Le moment de vérité'' (''The Moment of Truth'') in France. The title didn't stick, and ''Karaté Kid'' rapidly replaced it first in most viewers' minds, then with re-releases.

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Initially released as ''Le moment de vérité'' (''The Moment of Truth'') in France. The title didn't stick, and ''Karaté Kid'' rapidly replaced it first in most viewers' minds, then with re-releases. re-releases.
** In Japan, this film and the entire franchise was released with the title ''Best Kid'' instead of ''Karate Kid''.
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* RealLifeRelative: Creator/ElisabethShue's younger brother Andrew has a small part as one of the participants at the karate tournament. If you look closely he can be seen in the background while Daniel is squaring off against some of the other participants at the tournament.

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* RealLifeRelative: Creator/ElisabethShue's younger brother Andrew [[Creator/AndrewShue Andrew]] has a small part as one of the participants at the karate tournament. If you look closely he can be seen in the background while Daniel is squaring off against some of the other participants at the tournament.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: There are scenes in an arcade, which have been almost completely replaced by home video game systems. This was excused in the [[Film/TheKarateKid2010 2010 remake]] taking place in China where arcades live on like Japan. Also, the presentation of karate as the ultimate self defense martial art in an otherwise realistic setting is obviously made in an era before UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts, which demystified traditional martial arts. ''Series/CobraKai'' makes a point of alluding to karate being all the rage in the 1980s, and it losing popularity before Johnny's revival of Cobra Kai wins the 2018 All-Valley Tournament with Miguel Diaz.
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* TheDanza: Darryl Vidal, Johnny's opponent in the semifinals, is played by Darryl Vidal.

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* StarMakingRole: For Creator/RalphMacchio. Subverted with Creator/ElisabethShue as she was the leading lady, not the star, an important distinction. This was the first film for the latter after doing several commercials in the early 1980s beforehand.

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* SleeperHit: The studio did not have high expectations for ''The Karate Kid'', but it ended up becoming the biggest sleeper hit of 1984; earning over $100 million in the United States and Canada on a $8 million budget. When ''Series/CobraKai'' debuted in 2018 it resulted in renewed interest in the original film, and ''The Karate Kid'' earned another $400,000 in limited theatrical re-releases across the United States and Canada.
* StarMakingRole: For Creator/RalphMacchio. Subverted with Creator/ElisabethShue as she was the leading lady, not the star, an important distinction. This was the first film for the latter after doing several commercials in the early 1980s beforehand. After the success of ''The Karate Kid'', Ralph Macchio became a teen idol who was often featured on the covers of magazines like ''Tiger Beat.''
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** Averted, however with William Zabka, who had just had his 18th birthday when filming began, about the same age, if not a little ''younger'' than Johnny Lawrence.

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* CastTheExpert: The referee in the final match is Pat E. Johnson, a karate expert and former student of Creator/ChuckNorris. He instructed many movie stars in karate. He is credited as the "fight instructor/choreographer" for the film.

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The referee in the final match is Pat E. Johnson, a karate expert and former student of Creator/ChuckNorris. He instructed many movie stars in karate. He is credited as the "fight instructor/choreographer" for the film.film.
** Darryl Vidal, who played Johnny's semi-final opponent and stunt-doubled for Pat Morita doing the crane kick, is a black belt in karate.



* DidntThinkThisThrough: The above DeletedScene had Johnny putting a cake where Daniel was about to sit in the school cafteria, ruining his pants. Problem is, Johnny can handle Daniel in a fistfight, but a harmless prank (no matter how humiliating) like that, Daniel can easily retaliate, which he does, by ruining Johnny’s shirt. The moment Johnny [[OhCrap realizes]] this was a possible outcome is priceless.

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* DidntThinkThisThrough: The above DeletedScene had Johnny putting a cake where Daniel was about to sit in the school cafteria, cafeteria, ruining his pants. Problem is, Johnny can handle Daniel in a fistfight, but a harmless prank (no matter how humiliating) like that, Daniel can easily retaliate, which he does, by ruining Johnny’s shirt. The moment Johnny [[OhCrap realizes]] this was a possible outcome is priceless.
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* DawsonCasting: Creator/RalphMacchio was 21 when the first film was made, playing a 17 year old. Not many people noticed thanks to Macchio's boyish good looks and high-pitched voice,[[note]]although Macchio himself was very uncomfortable being romantically paired with the 16-year-old Robyn Lively in the third movie[[/note]] making this one of the few effective examples of the trope. Avoided in the reboot, as the kids are actual kids. Poked fun at in a 90's commercial for [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JpVJgSkGgk Brisk Iced Tea]].

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* DawsonCasting: Creator/RalphMacchio was 21 when the first film was made, playing a 17 year old. Not many people noticed thanks to Macchio's boyish good looks and high-pitched voice,[[note]]although Macchio himself was very uncomfortable being romantically paired with the 16-year-old Robyn Lively in the third movie[[/note]] making this one of the few effective examples of the trope. Avoided in the reboot, as the kids are actual kids. Poked fun at in a 90's commercial for [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JpVJgSkGgk com/watch?v=FG3f9T92KsU&ab_channel=LooseMooseProds Brisk Iced Tea]].
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* DidntThinkThisThrough: The above DeletedScene had Johnny putting a cake where Daniel was about to sit in the school cafteria, ruining his pants. Problem is, Johnny can handle Daniel in a fistfight, but a harmless prank (no matter how humiliating) like that, Daniel can easily retaliate, which he does, by ruining Johnny’s shirt. The moment Johnny [[OhCrap realizes]] this was a possible outcome is priceless.
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* StarMakingRole: For Creator/RalphMacchio and Creator/ElisabethShue, this was the first film for the latter after doing several commercials in the early 1980's beforehand.

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* StarMakingRole: For Creator/RalphMacchio and Creator/ElisabethShue, this Creator/RalphMacchio. Subverted with Creator/ElisabethShue as she was the leading lady, not the star, an important distinction. This was the first film for the latter after doing several commercials in the early 1980's 1980s beforehand.

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