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* TheWikiRule: The [[http://terminator.wikia.com/wiki/Terminator_Wiki Terminator Wiki]].

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* ActingForTwo: Garret Dillahunt plays four different roles: the second face of the Terminator known as [[TheHeavy Cromartie]]; George Laszlo, the actor whom Cromartie [[KillAndReplace killed]] after having MagicPlasticSurgery to look like him; John Henry, the innocent child AI who occupies Cromartie's body after Cromartie is killed; and, very briefly, [[spoiler: [[BigBad Skynet]]]].

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Garret Dillahunt plays four different roles: the second face of the Terminator known as [[TheHeavy Cromartie]]; George Laszlo, the actor whom Cromartie [[KillAndReplace killed]] after having MagicPlasticSurgery to look like him; John Henry, the innocent child AI who occupies Cromartie's body after Cromartie is killed; and, very briefly, [[spoiler: [[BigBad Skynet]]]].Skynet]]]].
** Creator/SummerGlau portrays both the cyborg Cameron and the resistance fighter Allison.



* [[TalkingToHimself Talking To Herself]]: Cameron having a series of ''very'' creepy interviews with Allison.
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* AbsenteeActor: Summer Glau is the only actor to appear in every episode, especially season 2.
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** Weaver's gopher Walsh says in "Desert Cantos" that he used to be a cop in Baltimore. He's played by Max Perlich, who is well known for his period playing Brody (actually a civilian technician working for the police department, not a cop) in ''Series/HomicideLifeOnTheStreet'', which was set in Baltimore.

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** Weaver's gopher Walsh says in "Desert Cantos" that he used to be a cop in Baltimore. He's played by Max Perlich, Creator/MaxPerlich, who is well known for his period playing Brody Brodie (actually a civilian technician working for the police department, not a cop) in ''Series/HomicideLifeOnTheStreet'', which was set in Baltimore.
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* FanNickname:
** The ''Taminator.'' for Cameron, when Summer Glau was previously best known for portraying River Tam in ''Series/{{Firefly}}''.
** The [[WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor Toilenator]] for [[spoiler: Weaver, who first appears as a urinal]].
** [=FrankenSummer=] for Cameron with a bad case of staple-face.
** Jamsex for the anticipated sex scene with John and Cameron (derived from [[PortmanteauCoupleName Jameron]]).



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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: Fox did its best to build hype for season 1, and it paid off in the spite of the Writer's Guild strike. Their reward? Season 2 had the show moved to the FridayNightDeathSlot and cancelled while LeftHanging.

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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: Fox did its best to build hype for season 1, and it paid off in the spite of the Writer's Guild strike. Their reward? Season 2 had the show moved to the FridayNightDeathSlot and cancelled while LeftHanging.

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** Pointed out by John when he said that he's technically 23 but he's stuck looking 15 because of time travel. Creator/ThomasDekker was 20 in the first season.

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** Pointed out by John when he said that he's technically 23 but he's stuck looking still biologically 15 because of time travel. Creator/ThomasDekker was 20 in the first season.



* RefittedForSequel: The character of Sumner comes from one of the earliest scripts of the first ''Terminator'' film, where he was a fighter sent to the past along with Reese who died by accidentally materializing into a fire escape.



* StockSoundEffects : During one episode, you hear the "modem screech." Also an odd example of TechnologyMarchesOn, as John says "it sounds like it's dialling into the Internet." Perhaps the writers believed a 2008 audience wouldn't recognize the sound.

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* StockSoundEffects : StockSoundEffects: During one episode, you hear the "modem screech." Also an odd example of TechnologyMarchesOn, as John says "it sounds like it's dialling into the Internet." Perhaps the writers believed a 2008 audience wouldn't recognize the sound.
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** WordOfGod on the DVD commentary states that the actress who plays Jordan, the young woman who jumps off the school roof in Season One, was cast because she looks a lot like Creator/HaydenPanettiere... and in fact doubled for her in the first episode of ''Series/{{Heroes}}'', as Hayden's character jumped off an oil rig. And who was playing her friend who filmed the whole action? Thomas Dekker!

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** WordOfGod on the DVD commentary states that the actress who plays Jordan, the young woman who jumps off the school roof in Season One, was cast because she looks a lot like Creator/HaydenPanettiere... and in fact doubled for her in the first episode of ''Series/{{Heroes}}'', as Hayden's character jumped off an oil rig. And who was playing her friend who filmed the whole action? Thomas Dekker!Creator/{{Thomas Dekker}}!



** Pointed out by John when he said that he's technically 23 but he's stuck looking 15 because of time travel. Thomas Dekker was 20 in the first season.

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** Pointed out by John when he said that he's technically 23 but he's stuck looking 15 because of time travel. Thomas Dekker Creator/ThomasDekker was 20 in the first season.
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** Averted with Leven Rambin, who was 18 in season 2, playing a teenager of VagueAge. Since Jessie [[spoiler: found her in the tunnels and brought her back to 2008]] it's likely she was older than her 2008 persona.

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** Averted with Leven Rambin, Creator/LevenRambin, who was 18 in season 2, playing a teenager of VagueAge. Since Jessie [[spoiler: found her in the tunnels and brought her back to 2008]] it's likely she was older than her 2008 persona.
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* TheOtherMarty: A different actor, Tim Guinee, played Charley Dixon in the pilot. His scenes were re-shot with Creator/DeanWinters.

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* TheOtherMarty: A different actor, Tim Guinee, Creator/TimGuinee, played Charley Dixon in the pilot. His scenes were re-shot with Creator/DeanWinters.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** Apparently the Season 1 high school stories would have tied into the Skynet plot...somehow. That's all the crew has let us know after the season was cut short by the writer's strike and they decided to abandon the stories entirely in Season 2. According to rumours, writer/creator Josh Friedman purportedly had an outline for 4-5 seasons of the show. Future episodes would have followed John into the future and included Allison Young, an adult Savannah, and Catherine Weaver, and explored his training with his father and uncle.
** Garret Dillahunt was planned to play the Cromartie Terminator right from the start, but scheduling conflicts prevented him from appearing in the pilot episode.
** Cameron getting caught in a jeep explosion at the end of the first season was supposedly written in case Summer Glau wanted to leave the role at the end of the series. If she had, the resolution would have been that Cameron had her skin burned off in the fire and regrew a new one for the new actress, either like Cromartie did early in the series or by having similar abilities to the T-X of the third film.
** One vocal part of the series criticism was that the series was set in the present day, instead of being set in Future War as basically ''Series/BandOfBrothers'' [[RecycledInSpace with cyborgs]]. The season two cliffhanger indicates this is what the third season would actually have been. [[ScrewedByTheNetwork But, of course, Fox]]...
** Actually, thanks again to the Writer's Strike, the whole plot for Season 1 had to be dropped and canceled. The Jeep explosion was supposed to be the halfway point. Remember that blonde chick, Cheri Westin who was mysterious, "broken goods" (as Morris called her) and seemed like she'd play a big part, but then suddenly vanished in Season 2, never to be mentioned again? Yeah, she was supposed to have a sub-plot about being the victim of blackmail from the same person who made Jordan Cowan (the cheerleader who killed herself near the beginning) commit suicide. Because John got to know her, he unwittingly got dragged into a similar type of situation where his identity would be compromised. Guess we'll never know who made poor Jordan kill herself, or what dark secrets Cheri had…
** In 2018, Josh Friedman released pitch documents for both seasons via a [[https://twitter.com/Josh_Friedman/status/976318614444716032 Twitter thread]]. Notably, both seasons went through '''major''' changes compared to their original pitches (for example, the character who eventually became John Henry could have been introduced at the end of S1, as an entirely evil proto-Skynet in an entirely functional Terminator body, named Daedalus), with the general tone of both seasons becoming more morally-ambiguous compared to their pitches. The really big revelation, however, was that the show was intended to have four seasons, with a complex StableTimeLoop personal timeline for John incorporating his death as described in ''T3''.[[note]]John is sent into the future at the end of S2, arriving just after his older future self's death. He spends S3 learning to become a military leader from his older self's colleagues, and at the end of the season is sent back in time by Cameron to Judgement Day, founding and leading the resistance through S4 until he is finally killed by a T-800 that played on his feelings for that model.[[/note]]

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WhatCouldHaveBeen: See the Season 1 high school stories would have tied into the Skynet plot...somehow. That's all the crew has let us know after the season was cut short by the writer's strike and they decided to abandon the stories entirely in Season 2. According to rumours, writer/creator Josh Friedman purportedly had an outline for 4-5 seasons of the show. Future episodes would have followed John into the future and included Allison Young, an adult Savannah, and Catherine Weaver, and explored his training with his father and uncle.
** Garret Dillahunt was planned to play the Cromartie Terminator right from the start, but scheduling conflicts prevented him from appearing in the pilot episode.
** Cameron getting caught in a jeep explosion at the end of the first season was supposedly written in case Summer Glau wanted to leave the role at the end of the series. If she had, the resolution would have been that Cameron had her skin burned off in the fire and regrew a new one for the new actress, either like Cromartie did early in the series or by having similar abilities to the T-X of the third film.
** One vocal part of the series criticism was that the series was set in the present day, instead of being set in Future War as basically ''Series/BandOfBrothers'' [[RecycledInSpace with cyborgs]]. The season two cliffhanger indicates this is what the third season would actually have been. [[ScrewedByTheNetwork But, of course, Fox]]...
** Actually, thanks again to the Writer's Strike, the whole plot for Season 1 had to be dropped and canceled. The Jeep explosion was supposed to be the halfway point. Remember that blonde chick, Cheri Westin who was mysterious, "broken goods" (as Morris called her) and seemed like she'd play a big part, but then suddenly vanished in Season 2, never to be mentioned again? Yeah, she was supposed to have a sub-plot about being the victim of blackmail from the same person who made Jordan Cowan (the cheerleader who killed herself near the beginning) commit suicide. Because John got to know her, he unwittingly got dragged into a similar type of situation where his identity would be compromised. Guess we'll never know who made poor Jordan kill herself, or what dark secrets Cheri had…
** In 2018, Josh Friedman released pitch documents for both seasons via a [[https://twitter.com/Josh_Friedman/status/976318614444716032 Twitter thread]]. Notably, both seasons went through '''major''' changes compared to their original pitches (for example, the character who eventually became John Henry could have been introduced at the end of S1, as an entirely evil proto-Skynet in an entirely functional Terminator body, named Daedalus), with the general tone of both seasons becoming more morally-ambiguous compared to their pitches. The really big revelation, however, was that the show was intended to have four seasons, with a complex StableTimeLoop personal timeline for John incorporating his death as described in ''T3''.[[note]]John is sent into the future at the end of S2, arriving just after his older future self's death. He spends S3 learning to become a military leader from his older self's colleagues, and at the end of the season is sent back in time by Cameron to Judgement Day, founding and leading the resistance through S4 until he is finally killed by a T-800 that played on his feelings for that model.[[/note]]
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* ActingForTwo: Garret Dillahunt plays four different roles: the second face of the Terminator known as Cromartie; George Laszlo, the actor whom Cromartie killed and impersonated after having MagicPlasticSurgery to look like him; John Henry, the innocent child AI who occupies Cromartie's body after Cromartie is killed; and, very briefly, [[spoiler: Skynet]].

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* ActingForTwo: Garret Dillahunt plays four different roles: the second face of the Terminator known as Cromartie; [[TheHeavy Cromartie]]; George Laszlo, the actor whom Cromartie killed and impersonated [[KillAndReplace killed]] after having MagicPlasticSurgery to look like him; John Henry, the innocent child AI who occupies Cromartie's body after Cromartie is killed; and, very briefly, [[spoiler: Skynet]].[[BigBad Skynet]]]].
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* ActingForTwo: Garret Dillahunt plays four different roles, as the second face of the Terminator known as Cromartie, George Laszlo, the actor who Cromartie killed and impersonated after having MagicPlasticSurgery to look like him, and John Henry, the innocent child AI who occupies Cromartie's body after Cromartie is killed. And very briefly as [[spoiler:Skynet]].

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* ActingForTwo: Garret Dillahunt plays four different roles, as roles: the second face of the Terminator known as Cromartie, Cromartie; George Laszlo, the actor who whom Cromartie killed and impersonated after having MagicPlasticSurgery to look like him, and him; John Henry, the innocent child AI who occupies Cromartie's body after Cromartie is killed. And killed; and, very briefly as [[spoiler:Skynet]].briefly, [[spoiler: Skynet]].
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* DisownedAdaptation: Like the previous movies (''Rise of the Machines'', ''Salvation'', ''Genisys''), the series has been dismissed by Creator/JamesCameron as an alternate timeline series after ''[[Film/TerminatorDarkFate Dark Fate]]'' was confirmed to be the true sequel for ''Judgement Day''.
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** One vocal part of the series HateDom was that the series was set in the present day, instead of being set in Future War as basically ''Series/BandOfBrothers'' [[RecycledInSpace with cyborgs]]. The season two cliffhanger indicates this is what the third season would actually have been. [[ScrewedByTheNetwork But, of course, Fox]]...

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** One vocal part of the series HateDom criticism was that the series was set in the present day, instead of being set in Future War as basically ''Series/BandOfBrothers'' [[RecycledInSpace with cyborgs]]. The season two cliffhanger indicates this is what the third season would actually have been. [[ScrewedByTheNetwork But, of course, Fox]]...
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** Cameron getting caught in a jeep explosion at the end of the first season was supposedly written in case Summer Glau wanted to leave the role at the end of the series. If she had, the resolution would have been that Cameron had her skin burned off in the fire and regrew a new one for the new actress, either like Cromartie did early in the series or by having similar abilities to the T-X of the third film.
** One vocal part of the series HateDom was that the series was set in the present day, instead of being set in Future War as basically ''Series/BandOfBrothers'' [[RecycledInSpace with cyborgs]]. The season two cliffhanger indicates this is what the third season would actually have been. [[ScrewedByTheNetwork But, of course, Fox]]...
** Actually, thanks again to the Writer's Strike, the whole plot for Season 1 had to be dropped and canceled. The Jeep explosion was supposed to be the halfway point. Remember that blonde chick, Cheri Westin who was mysterious, "broken goods" (as Morris called her) and seemed like she'd play a big part, but then suddenly vanished in Season 2, never to be mentioned again? Yeah, she was supposed to have a sub-plot about being the victim of blackmail from the same person who made Jordan Cowan (the cheerleader who killed herself near the beginning) commit suicide. Because John got to know her, he unwittingly got dragged into a similar type of situation where his identity would be compromised. Guess we'll never know who made poor Jordan kill herself, or what dark secrets Cheri had…
** In 2018, Josh Friedman released pitch documents for both seasons via a [[https://twitter.com/Josh_Friedman/status/976318614444716032 Twitter thread]]. Notably, both seasons went through '''major''' changes compared to their original pitches (for example, the character who eventually became John Henry could have been introduced at the end of S1, as an entirely evil proto-Skynet in an entirely functional Terminator body, named Daedalus), with the general tone of both seasons becoming more morally-ambiguous compared to their pitches. The really big revelation, however, was that the show was intended to have four seasons, with a complex StableTimeLoop personal timeline for John incorporating his death as described in ''T3''.[[note]]John is sent into the future at the end of S2, arriving just after his older future self's death. He spends S3 learning to become a military leader from his older self's colleagues, and at the end of the season is sent back in time by Cameron to Judgement Day, founding and leading the resistance through S4 until he is finally killed by a T-800 that played on his feelings for that model.[[/note]]
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* ContentLeak: The debut episode was leaked online a couple of months before its initial broadcast.

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