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* CreatorsFavorite: Creator/MichaelMadsen [[https://metro.co.uk/2009/10/27/michael-madsen-242331/ once claimed]] that ''Species'' was one of the six movies out of the ''150+'' he made until then that he was actually proud of. The [[Film/SpeciesII sequel]], on the other hand...



** Inverted by Creator/MichaelMadsen, who [[https://metro.co.uk/2009/10/27/michael-madsen-242331/ once claimed]] that ''Species'' was one of the six movies out of the ''150+'' he made until then that he was actually proud of. The [[Film/SpeciesII sequel]], on the other hand...

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* DeletedScene: Tons of them, as the original cut of the movie was two hours and seven minutes long.



* OldShame: Creator/MichelleWilliams, who played the young Sil, doesn't remember fondly the film due to the amount of bullying she got after it was released.

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Creator/MichelleWilliams, who played the young Sil, doesn't remember fondly the film due to the amount of bullying she got after it was released.



** The nightmare sequence where [[spoiler: Sil imagines herself mating with a male alien]] was about twenty minutes long originally and far more graphic. Giger disowned the final version, feeling it was too short and poorly edited.

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** The nightmare sequence where [[spoiler: Sil imagines herself mating with a male alien]] was about twenty minutes long originally and far more graphic. Giger disowned criticized the few seconds shown in the final version, cut, feeling it was too short and poorly edited.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The 1994 Northridge earthquake and the damage that was still left over from it is briefly mentioned near the start of the first film. Normally this wouldn't be that big of a deal, but near the end of the story Sil hides away in a cavern to give birth, and Laura says that the entrance to the cavern "must have been created by the earthquake". Modern-day viewers who don't remember the Northridge earthquake (or don't get that it's what Laura's referring to) will likely be left scratching their heads and wondering "''what'' earthquake?"
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** Inverted by Creator/MichaelMadsen, who [[https://metro.co.uk/2009/10/27/michael-madsen-242331/ once claimed]] that ''Species'' was one of the six movies out of the ''150+'' he made until then that he's actually proud of. The [[Film/SpeciesII sequel]], on the other hand...

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** Inverted by Creator/MichaelMadsen, who [[https://metro.co.uk/2009/10/27/michael-madsen-242331/ once claimed]] that ''Species'' was one of the six movies out of the ''150+'' he made until then that he's he was actually proud of. The [[Film/SpeciesII sequel]], on the other hand...
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** Inverted by Creator/MichaelMadsen, who [[https://metro.co.uk/2009/10/27/michael-madsen-242331/ once claimed]] that ''Species'' was one of the six movies he's made in his long career that he's actually proud of. The [[Film/SpeciesII sequel]], on the other hand...

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** Inverted by Creator/MichaelMadsen, who [[https://metro.co.uk/2009/10/27/michael-madsen-242331/ once claimed]] that ''Species'' was one of the six movies he's out of the ''150+'' he made in his long career until then that he's actually proud of. The [[Film/SpeciesII sequel]], on the other hand...
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** Inverted by Creator/MichaelMadsen, who [[https://metro.co.uk/2009/10/27/michael-madsen-242331/ once claimed]] that ''Species'' was one of the six movies he's made in his long career that he's actually proud of. The [[Film/Species2 sequel]], on the other hand...

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** Inverted by Creator/MichaelMadsen, who [[https://metro.co.uk/2009/10/27/michael-madsen-242331/ once claimed]] that ''Species'' was one of the six movies he's made in his long career that he's actually proud of. The [[Film/Species2 [[Film/SpeciesII sequel]], on the other hand...
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** The filmography section on Michael Madsen's website used to list ''Species 2'' followed by two words: "Big Mistake". Currently, it doesn't even list it at all.

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** Inverted by Creator/MichaelMadsen, who [[https://metro.co.uk/2009/10/27/michael-madsen-242331/ once claimed]] that ''Species'' was one of the six movies he's made in his long career that he's actually proud of. The filmography section [[Film/Species2 sequel]], on Michael Madsen's website used to list ''Species 2'' followed by two words: "Big Mistake". Currently, it doesn't even list it at all.the other hand...
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** The filmography section on Michael Madsen's website used list ''Species 2'' followed by two words: "Big Mistake". Currently, it doesn't even list it at all.

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** The filmography section on Michael Madsen's website used to list ''Species 2'' followed by two words: "Big Mistake". Currently, it doesn't even list it at all.
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** The filmography section on Michael Madsen's website used list ''Species 2'' followed by two words: "Big Mistake". Currently, it doesn't even list it at all.

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* DoingItForTheArt: MGM didn't want to shoot the nightmare train sequence, hoping to keep costs down. HR Giger financed the sequence himself, with $100,000 of his own money.
* FakeAmerican: British actor Ben Kingsley as American scientist Xavier Fitch.
* OldShame: Creator/MichelleWilliams doesn't like the first film due to the amount of bullying she got after it was released.
* PlayingAgainstType: Michael Madsen, normally a villain, plays TheHero. With one particular scene establishing him as a KindheartedCatLover.

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* DoingItForTheArt: MGM didn't want to shoot the nightmare train sequence, hoping to keep costs down. HR Giger Creator/HRGiger financed the sequence himself, with $100,000 of his own money.
* FakeAmerican: British actor Ben Kingsley Creator/BenKingsley as American scientist Xavier Fitch.
* FollowTheLeader: While not a full-on ''Alien'' rip-off, Giger himself complained that there were too many similarities, starting with his involvement in designing the creature.
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OldShame: Creator/MichelleWilliams Creator/MichelleWilliams, who played the young Sil, doesn't like remember fondly the first film due to the amount of bullying she got after it was released.
* PlayingAgainstType: Michael Madsen, normally a villain, plays TheHero. With TheHero, with one particular scene establishing him as a KindheartedCatLover.



** The treatment for the film was called ''The Message'' and was more of a police procedural, with the alien being created by a "bathtub geneticist" who had saw his project aborted.



** An early idea for the ending was an intense showdown in a movie theatre - where ''{{Film/Alien}}'' would be shown in the background. In this ending [[spoiler: military and police forces have to be called in, culminating in Laura blowing Sil's head off with a rocket launcher. The baby would crawl out of the corpse but then die in an explosion]].
** The nightmare sequence where [[spoiler: Sil imagines herself mating with a male alien]] was about twenty minutes long originally, and far more graphic. HR Giger disowned the final version, feeling it was too short and poorly edited.

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** Giger had envisioned more stages of Sil's transformation, but the film only employed the last one.
** The nightmare sequence where [[spoiler: Sil imagines herself mating with a male alien]] was about twenty minutes long originally and far more graphic. Giger disowned the final version, feeling it was too short and poorly edited.
** Giger also disliked the ending the scripwriters had created, feeling it was too similar to both ''Film/{{Alien3}}'' and ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay''. He eventually convinced them to finish Sil by headshot and not with fire.
** An early idea for the this ending was an intense showdown in a movie theatre - where ''{{Film/Alien}}'' ''Film/{{Alien}}'' would be shown in the background. In this ending [[spoiler: military and police forces have to be called in, culminating in Laura blowing Sil's head off with a rocket launcher. The baby would crawl out of the corpse but then die in an explosion]].
** The nightmare sequence where [[spoiler: Sil imagines herself mating with a male alien]] was about twenty minutes long originally, and far more graphic. HR Giger disowned the final version, feeling it was too short and poorly edited.
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Split work page.


* OldShame:
** Michael Madsen [[http://www.metro.co.uk/fame/interviews/article.html?in_article_id=1020&in_page_id=11 doesn't have good things to say]] about ''Species II''.
** Creator/MichelleWilliams doesn't like the first film due to the amount of bullying she got after it was released.
** Even Creator/HRGiger was not happy about the second film, requesting a reduction of credit in his involvement.

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* OldShame:
** Michael Madsen [[http://www.metro.co.uk/fame/interviews/article.html?in_article_id=1020&in_page_id=11 doesn't have good things to say]] about ''Species II''.
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OldShame: Creator/MichelleWilliams doesn't like the first film due to the amount of bullying she got after it was released.
** Even Creator/HRGiger was not happy about the second film, requesting a reduction of credit in his involvement.
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* OldShame: Michael Madsen [[http://www.metro.co.uk/fame/interviews/article.html?in_article_id=1020&in_page_id=11 doesn't have good things to say]] about ''Species II''.

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* OldShame: DoingItForTheArt: MGM didn't want to shoot the nightmare train sequence, hoping to keep costs down. HR Giger financed the sequence himself, with $100,000 of his own money.
* FakeAmerican: British actor Ben Kingsley as American scientist Xavier Fitch.
* OldShame:
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Michael Madsen [[http://www.metro.co.uk/fame/interviews/article.html?in_article_id=1020&in_page_id=11 doesn't have good things to say]] about ''Species II''.


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* StarMakingRole: The first movie made model Natasha Henstridge into a sex symbol in the 90s.
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** An earlier draft of the script had the young Sil killing a friendly taxi driver. In order to keep the character appearing sympathetic - and to make the murder of the conductor more shocking - it was changed to a tramp attacking her and getting killed in self defence.
** An early idea for the ending was an intense showdown in a movie theatre - where ''{{Film/Alien}}'' would be shown in the background. In this ending [[spoiler: military and police forces have to be called in, culminating in Laura blowing Sil's head off with a rocket launcher. The baby would crawl out of the corpse but then die in an explosion]].
** The nightmare sequence where [[spoiler: Sil imagines herself mating with a male alien]] was about twenty minutes long originally, and far more graphic. HR Giger disowned the final version, feeling it was too short and poorly edited.
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Hey Its That Guy cut by TRS decision. Ditto for Hey Its That Voice.


* HeyItsThatVoice: To no one's surprise, Frank Welker lends his growly, disquieting Gremlin-style vocalizations to Sil's alien form.
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* HeyItsThatVoice: To no one's surprise, Frank Welker lends his growly, disquieting Gremlin-style vocalizations to Sil's alien form.
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Hey Its That Guy and Hey Its That Voice examples are being cut per TRS.


* HeyItsThatGuy: Marg Helgenberger, whom fans of ''Series/{{CSI}}'' may recognize as stripper-turned-investigator Catherine Willows, plays the head of the research team in the first three movies.
** And hey! It's [[Film/ReservoirDogs Mr. Blonde]]! And [[Film/SpiderMan2 Dr. Octopus!]] And [[Film/TheLastKingOfScotland Idi Amin]]! And Film/{{Gandhi}}! And Creator/MichelleWilliams from Series/DawsonsCreek as Kid!Sil!
** JustForFun/JohnMunch is the President in ''Species II''. And [[Film/StarTrekFirstContact Zefram]] [[Creator/JamesCromwell Cochrane]] is a U.S. Senator.
* HeyItsThatVoice: Creator/FrankWelker, who you might also know as [[Franchise/{{Transformers}} Megatron]] provided Sil's noises. [[FetishRetardant Sort of kills some of the hotness, huh?]]
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** JustForFun/JohnMunch is the President in ''Species II''.

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** JustForFun/JohnMunch is the President in ''Species II''. And [[Film/StarTrekFirstContact Zefram]] [[Creator/JamesCromwell Cochrane]] is a U.S. Senator.
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** And hey! It's [[Film/ReservoirDogs Mr. Blonde]]! And [[Film/SpiderMan2 Dr. Octopus!]] And [[TheLastKingOfScotland Idi Amin]]! And Film/{{Gandhi}}! And Creator/MichelleWilliams from Series/DawsonsCreek as Kid!Sil!

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** And hey! It's [[Film/ReservoirDogs Mr. Blonde]]! And [[Film/SpiderMan2 Dr. Octopus!]] And [[TheLastKingOfScotland [[Film/TheLastKingOfScotland Idi Amin]]! And Film/{{Gandhi}}! And Creator/MichelleWilliams from Series/DawsonsCreek as Kid!Sil!
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Proof is in the Film section of the official site.

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** Even Creator/HRGiger was not happy about the second film, requesting a reduction of credit in his involvement.
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** And hey! It's [[Film/ReservoirDogs Mr. Blonde]]! And [[Film/{{Spider-Man}} Dr. Octopus!]] And [[TheLastKingOfScotland Idi Amin]]! And Film/{{Gandhi}}! And Creator/MichelleWilliams from Series/DawsonsCreek as Kid!Sil!

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** And hey! It's [[Film/ReservoirDogs Mr. Blonde]]! And [[Film/{{Spider-Man}} [[Film/SpiderMan2 Dr. Octopus!]] And [[TheLastKingOfScotland Idi Amin]]! And Film/{{Gandhi}}! And Creator/MichelleWilliams from Series/DawsonsCreek as Kid!Sil!
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** And hey! It's [[Film/ReservoirDogs Mr. Blonde]]! And [[Film/{{Spider-Man}} Dr. Octopus!]] And [[TheLastKingOfScotland Idi Amin]]! And Film/{{Gandhi}}! And MichelleWilliams from Series/DawsonsCreek as Kid!Sil!

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** And hey! It's [[Film/ReservoirDogs Mr. Blonde]]! And [[Film/{{Spider-Man}} Dr. Octopus!]] And [[TheLastKingOfScotland Idi Amin]]! And Film/{{Gandhi}}! And MichelleWilliams Creator/MichelleWilliams from Series/DawsonsCreek as Kid!Sil!



** MichelleWilliams doesn't like the first film due to the amount of bullying she got after it was released.

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** MichelleWilliams Creator/MichelleWilliams doesn't like the first film due to the amount of bullying she got after it was released.
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* PlayingAgainstType: Michael Madsen, normally a villain, plays TheHero. With one particular scene establishing him as a KindheartedCatLover.
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** And hey! It's [[Film/ReservoirDogs Mr. Blonde]]! And [[Film/{{Spider-Man}} Dr. Octopus!]] And [[TheLastKingOfScotland Idi Amin]]! And Film/{{Gandhi}}! And Michelle Williams from Series/DawsonsCreek as Kid!Sil!

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** And hey! It's [[Film/ReservoirDogs Mr. Blonde]]! And [[Film/{{Spider-Man}} Dr. Octopus!]] And [[TheLastKingOfScotland Idi Amin]]! And Film/{{Gandhi}}! And Michelle Williams MichelleWilliams from Series/DawsonsCreek as Kid!Sil!



** Michelle Williams doesn't like the first film due to the amount of bullying she got after it was released.

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** Michelle Williams MichelleWilliams doesn't like the first film due to the amount of bullying she got after it was released.
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** JohnMunch is the President in ''Species II''.

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** JohnMunch JustForFun/JohnMunch is the President in ''Species II''.
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* HeyItsThatGuy: Marg Helgenberger, whom fans of ''{{CSI}}'' may recognize as stripper-turned-investigator Catherine Willows, plays the head of the research team in the first three movies.
** And hey! It's [[ReservoirDogs Mr. Blonde]]! And [[Film/{{Spider-Man}} Dr. Octopus!]] And [[TheLastKingOfScotland Idi Amin]]! And {{Gandhi}}! And Michelle Williams from Series/DawsonsCreek as Kid!Sil!

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* HeyItsThatGuy: Marg Helgenberger, whom fans of ''{{CSI}}'' ''Series/{{CSI}}'' may recognize as stripper-turned-investigator Catherine Willows, plays the head of the research team in the first three movies.
** And hey! It's [[ReservoirDogs [[Film/ReservoirDogs Mr. Blonde]]! And [[Film/{{Spider-Man}} Dr. Octopus!]] And [[TheLastKingOfScotland Idi Amin]]! And {{Gandhi}}! Film/{{Gandhi}}! And Michelle Williams from Series/DawsonsCreek as Kid!Sil!



* HeyItsThatVoice: Creator/FrankWelker, who you might also know as [[{{Transformers}} Megatron]] provided Sil's noises. [[FetishRetardant Sort of kills some of the hotness, huh?]]

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* HeyItsThatVoice: Creator/FrankWelker, who you might also know as [[{{Transformers}} [[Franchise/{{Transformers}} Megatron]] provided Sil's noises. [[FetishRetardant Sort of kills some of the hotness, huh?]]
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** JohnMunch is the President in ''Species II''.
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** And hey! It's [[ReservoirDogs Mr. Blonde]]! And [[Film/{{Spider-Man}} Dr. Octopus!]] And [[TheLastKingOfScotland Idi Amin]]! And {{Gandhi}}! And MichelleWilliams from DawnsonsCreek as Kid!Sil!

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** And hey! It's [[ReservoirDogs Mr. Blonde]]! And [[Film/{{Spider-Man}} Dr. Octopus!]] And [[TheLastKingOfScotland Idi Amin]]! And {{Gandhi}}! And MichelleWilliams Michelle Williams from DawnsonsCreek Series/DawsonsCreek as Kid!Sil!
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* HeyItsThatVoice: FrankWelker, who you might also know as [[{{Transformers}} Megatron]] provided Sil's noises. [[FetishRetardant Sort of kills some of the hotness, huh?]]

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* HeyItsThatVoice: FrankWelker, Creator/FrankWelker, who you might also know as [[{{Transformers}} Megatron]] provided Sil's noises. [[FetishRetardant Sort of kills some of the hotness, huh?]]
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** And hey! It's [[ReservoirDogs Mr. Blonde]]! And [[Film/{{Spider-Man}} Dr. Octopus!]] And [[TheLastKingOfScotland Idi Amin]]! And {{Gandhi}}!

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** And hey! It's [[ReservoirDogs Mr. Blonde]]! And [[Film/{{Spider-Man}} Dr. Octopus!]] And [[TheLastKingOfScotland Idi Amin]]! And {{Gandhi}}!{{Gandhi}}! And MichelleWilliams from DawnsonsCreek as Kid!Sil!
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* HeyItsThatVoice: FrankWelker provided Sil's noises. [[FetishRetardant Sort of kills some of the hotness, huh?]]

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* HeyItsThatVoice: FrankWelker FrankWelker, who you might also know as [[{{Transformers}} Megatron]] provided Sil's noises. [[FetishRetardant Sort of kills some of the hotness, huh?]]

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* [=~Hey, It's That Guy!~=]: Marg Helgenberger, whom fans of ''{{CSI}}'' may recognize as stripper-turned-investigator Catherine Willows, plays the head of the research team in the first three movies.

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* [=~Hey, It's That Guy!~=]: HeyItsThatGuy: Marg Helgenberger, whom fans of ''{{CSI}}'' may recognize as stripper-turned-investigator Catherine Willows, plays the head of the research team in the first three movies.



* [=~Hey, It's That Voice!~=]: FrankWelker provided Sil's noises. [[FetishRetardant Sort of kills some of the hotness, huh?]]

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* [=~Hey, It's That Voice!~=]: HeyItsThatVoice: FrankWelker provided Sil's noises. [[FetishRetardant Sort of kills some of the hotness, huh?]]



** Michelle Williams doesn't like the first film due to the amount of bullying she got after it was released.

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