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* AdoredByTheNetwork: This game got ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren'' delayed. Fans were ticked. Creator/{{Interplay|Entertainment}}'s response? Put a snarky TakeThatAudience message into the credits[[note]]"Thanks For the Laughs," followed by the [=URLs=] of the two largest ''Fallout'' fan forums of the time, whose users had bashed the game[[/note]] and outright cancel the ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren'' version of ''Fallout 3'' to make a ''Brotherhood of Steel 2''... which, thanks to Interplay's subsequent financial issues, ''also'' got cancelled.
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* AdoredByTheNetwork: This game got ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren'' delayed. Fans were ticked.displeased. Creator/{{Interplay|Entertainment}}'s response? Put a snarky TakeThatAudience message into the credits[[note]]"Thanks For the Laughs," followed by the [=URLs=] of the two largest ''Fallout'' fan forums of the time, whose users had bashed the game[[/note]] and outright cancel the ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren'' version of ''Fallout 3'' to make a ''Brotherhood of Steel 2''... which, thanks to Interplay's subsequent financial issues, ''also'' got cancelled.
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* RecycledScript: The final act of the game is more or less this for the ending of ''Fallout 1'' - you have a sinister cult (whose leader is an [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute obvious stand-in for the Lieutenant]]) guarding a secret vault where a super mutant army is planning to TakeOverTheWorld, and you, an outsider who recently joined the Brotherhood of Steel, have to single-handedly stop them.
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* RecycledScript: The final act of the game is more or less this for the ending of ''Fallout 1'' - you have a sinister cult (whose leader is an [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute obvious stand-in for the Lieutenant]]) Lieutenant]], voiced by [[Creator/TonyJay the same voice actor]], no less.) guarding a secret vault where a super mutant army is planning to TakeOverTheWorld, and you, an outsider who recently joined the Brotherhood of Steel, have to single-handedly stop them.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: A ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' was in the works. Of course, [[AdoredByTheNetwork Interplay loved this one so much]] that they cancelled ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren'' to make the sequel. However, thanks to poor sales, ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' [[{{Irony}} didn't get made either]]. Interestingly, when the design documentation was made public in 2009, it revealed it would have used concepts from both ''Van Buren'' and the cancelled ''Tactics'' sequel.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** A ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' was in the works. Of course, [[AdoredByTheNetwork Interplay loved this one so much]] that they cancelled ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren'' to make the sequel. However, thanks to poor sales, ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' [[{{Irony}} didn't get made either]]. Interestingly, when the design documentation was made public in 2009, it revealed it would have used concepts from both ''Van Buren'' and the cancelled ''Tactics''sequel.sequel.
** Harold's original character model omitted the tree in his head. Workers on the game had to lobby vociferously for that continuity detail to be honored before the game's release.
** A ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' was in the works. Of course, [[AdoredByTheNetwork Interplay loved this one so much]] that they cancelled ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren'' to make the sequel. However, thanks to poor sales, ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' [[{{Irony}} didn't get made either]]. Interestingly, when the design documentation was made public in 2009, it revealed it would have used concepts from both ''Van Buren'' and the cancelled ''Tactics''
** Harold's original character model omitted the tree in his head. Workers on the game had to lobby vociferously for that continuity detail to be honored before the game's release.
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* AdoredByTheNetwork: This game got ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren'' delayed. Fans were ticked. Creator/{{Interplay|Entertainment}}'s response? Put a snarky TakeThatAudience message into the credits[[note]]"Thanks For the Laughs," followed by the [=URLs=] of the two largest ''Fallout'' fan forums of the time, whose users had bashed the game[[/note]] and outright cancel the ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren'' version of ''Fallout 3'' to make a ''Brotherhood of Steel 2''... which, thanks to the poor sales of the first one and Interplay's subsequent bankruptcy, ''also'' never got finished.
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* AdoredByTheNetwork: This game got ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren'' delayed. Fans were ticked. Creator/{{Interplay|Entertainment}}'s response? Put a snarky TakeThatAudience message into the credits[[note]]"Thanks For the Laughs," followed by the [=URLs=] of the two largest ''Fallout'' fan forums of the time, whose users had bashed the game[[/note]] and outright cancel the ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren'' version of ''Fallout 3'' to make a ''Brotherhood of Steel 2''... which, thanks to the poor sales of the first one and Interplay's subsequent bankruptcy, financial issues, ''also'' never got finished.cancelled.
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-->'''Fred Zeleny:'''[[note]]Quest designer on ''VideoGame/Fallout3''[[/note]] I don't know if I'll ever feel fully clean again. I so wanted it to be good, because it had been so very long since a good Fallout game. Nowadays, I keep the disc around solely to focus all of my hatred and scorn into it. But I try not to actually touch it, lest its fundamental badness rub off on me.
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* CreatorBacklash: Many developers of the newer ''Fallout'' games hate this one just as much as the fans do, if not ''more''. There's a reason the game was [[CanonDiscontinuity struck from canon]].
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* AdoredByTheNetwork: This game got ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren'' delayed. Fans were ticked. Creator/{{Interplay|Entertainment}}'s response? Put a snarky TakeThatAudience message into the credits[[note]]"Thanks For the Laughs," followed by the [=URLs=] of the two largest ''Fallout'' fan forums of the time, whose users had bashed the game[[/note]] and outright cancel the ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren'' version of ''Fallout 3'' to make a ''Brotherhood of Steel 2''... which, thanks to the poor sales of the first one and Interplay's subsequent bankruptcy, ''also'' never got finished.
* CreatorBacklash: Many developers of the newer''Fallout'' ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'' games hate this one just as much as the fans do, if not ''more''. There's a reason the game was [[CanonDiscontinuity struck from canon]].
* CreatorBacklash: Many developers of the newer
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* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: Unlike the other Interplay-era Fallout games, Brotherhood Of Steel has yet to receive a rerelease in any form from current rights holder Creator/{{Bethesda}}. Considering the game’s poor reception among both fans and Bethesda (who declared the game non-canon), this is unlikely to change.
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* CreatorBacklash: As the page quote shows, many developers of the newer ''Fallout'' games hate this one just as much as the fans do, if not ''more''. There's a reason the game was [[CanonDiscontinuity struck from canon]].
* CreatorKiller: [[Creator/InterPlayEntertainment Interplay]] was already halfway out the door by the time it finished production on the game, causing them to lay off almost the entire production team the moment it was finished, but poor sales helped to put the final nail in the company's coffin.
* CreatorKiller: [[Creator/InterPlayEntertainment Interplay]] was already halfway out the door by the time it finished production on the game, causing them to lay off almost the entire production team the moment it was finished, but poor sales helped to put the final nail in the company's coffin.
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* CreatorBacklash: As the page quote shows, many Many developers of the newer ''Fallout'' games hate this one just as much as the fans do, if not ''more''. There's a reason the game was [[CanonDiscontinuity struck from canon]].
* CreatorKiller:[[Creator/InterPlayEntertainment Interplay]] Creator/{{Interplay|Entertainment}} was already halfway out the door by the time it finished production on the game, causing them to lay off almost the entire production team the moment it was finished, but poor sales helped to put the final nail in the company's coffin.
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* NamesTheSame: Kind of - ''VideoGame/FalloutTacticsBrotherhoodOfSteel'' has an almost ''identical'' title, with only "Tactics" separating the two; as a result, if they don't use one of the [[FanNickname fan nicknames]] mentioned above, people will use "Fallout Tactics" to refer to the former game, while "Brotherhood of Steel" is used to refer to this game.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: A ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' was in the works. Of course, [[Creator/InterplayEntertainment Interplay]] [[CreatorsPet loved this one so much]] that they cancelled ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren'' to make the sequel. However, thanks to poor sales, ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' [[{{Irony}} didn't get made either]]. Interestingly, when the design documentation was made public in 2009, it revealed it would have used concepts from both ''Van Buren'' and the cancelled ''Tactics'' sequel.
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* SimilarlyNamedWorks: ''VideoGame/FalloutTacticsBrotherhoodOfSteel'' has an almost ''identical'' title, with only "Tactics" separating the two; as a result, if they don't use one of the {{fan nickname}}s mentioned above, people will use "Fallout Tactics" to refer to the former game, while "Brotherhood of Steel" is used to refer to this game.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: A ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' was in the works. Of course,[[Creator/InterplayEntertainment Interplay]] [[CreatorsPet [[AdoredByTheNetwork Interplay loved this one so much]] that they cancelled ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren'' to make the sequel. However, thanks to poor sales, ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' [[{{Irony}} didn't get made either]]. Interestingly, when the design documentation was made public in 2009, it revealed it would have used concepts from both ''Van Buren'' and the cancelled ''Tactics'' sequel.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: A ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' was in the works. Of course,
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** Some fans jokingly call this game "The Great Unifier," since virtually '''every''' ''Fallout'' fan hates this game, regardless of wherever they otherwise stand within the fanbase's infamously {{Broken Base}}.
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** Some fans jokingly call this game "The Great Unifier," since virtually '''every''' every ''Fallout'' fan hates this game, regardless of wherever they otherwise stand within the fanbase's infamously {{Broken Base}}.
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* CreatorKiller: Poor sales of this game, combined with poor business decisions, caused [[Creator/InterPlayEntertainment Interplay]] to go bankrupt, requiring them to sell the ''Fallout'' franchise just to stay afloat. They're still around, but nowhere near what they used to be, and with the company selling all of their [=IPs=], it's only a matter of time before they're gone entirely.
* FanNickname: "Fallout: [=PoS=]" was and is still a somewhat popular one amongst the game's detractors. More recently, "The Burned Game" has gained some popularity.
* FanNickname: "Fallout: [=PoS=]" was and is still a somewhat popular one amongst the game's detractors. More recently, "The Burned Game" has gained some popularity.
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* CreatorKiller: Poor sales of this game, combined with poor business decisions, caused [[Creator/InterPlayEntertainment Interplay]] to go bankrupt, requiring was already halfway out the door by the time it finished production on the game, causing them to sell lay off almost the ''Fallout'' franchise just to stay afloat. They're still around, entire production team the moment it was finished, but nowhere near what they used poor sales helped to be, and with put the company selling all of their [=IPs=], it's only a matter of time before they're gone entirely.
final nail in the company's coffin.
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* NamesTheSame: Kind of - ''VideoGame/FalloutTacticsBrotherhoodOfSteel'' has an almost ''identical'' title, with only "Tactics" separating the two; as a result, if they don't use one of the [[FanNickname fan nicknames]] mentioned above, people will use "Fallout Tactics" to refer to the former game, while "Brotherhood of Steel" is used to refer to this game.
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** Some fans jokingly call this game "The Great Unifer," since virtually '''every''' ''Fallout'' fan hates this game, regardless of wherever they otherwise stand within the fanbase's infamously {{Broken Base}}.
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** Some fans jokingly call this game "The Great Unifer," Unifier," since virtually '''every''' ''Fallout'' fan hates this game, regardless of wherever they otherwise stand within the fanbase's infamously {{Broken Base}}.
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* TheOtherDarrin:
** Harold, who was voiced by Charlie Adler in the first two games, is now voiced by Alan Oppenheimer, who makes no attempt to sound like Harold did in the original games.
** Rhombus is now voiced by John Vernon instead of Clancy Brown. [[Film/AnimalHouse Yes, that John Vernon]].
** Harold, who was voiced by Charlie Adler in the first two games, is now voiced by Alan Oppenheimer, who makes no attempt to sound like Harold did in the original games.
** Rhombus is now voiced by John Vernon instead of Clancy Brown. [[Film/AnimalHouse Yes, that John Vernon]].
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* CreatorBacklash: As the page quote shows, at least some developers of the newer ''Fallout'' games hate this one just as much as the fans do, if not more. There's a reason the game was [[CanonDiscontinuity struck from canon]].
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* CreatorBacklash: As the page quote shows, at least some many developers of the newer ''Fallout'' games hate this one just as much as the fans do, if not more.''more''. There's a reason the game was [[CanonDiscontinuity struck from canon]].
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** Some fans jokingly call this game "The Great Unifer," since virtually '''every''' ''Fallout'' fan hates this game, regardless of wherever they otherwise stand within the fanbase's infamously {{Broken Base}}.
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* CreatorBacklash: As the page quote shows, at least some developers of the newer ''Fallout'' games hate this one just as much as the fans do, if not more. There's a reason the game was [[CanonDiscontinuity struck from canon]].
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* CreatorKiller: Poor sales of this game, combined with poor business decisions, caused [[Creator/InterPlayEntertainment Interplay]] to go bankrupt. They're still around, but nowhere near what they used to be.
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* CreatorKiller: Poor sales of this game, combined with poor business decisions, caused [[Creator/InterPlayEntertainment Interplay]] to go bankrupt. bankrupt, requiring them to sell the ''Fallout'' franchise just to stay afloat. They're still around, but nowhere near what they used to be.be, and with the company selling all of their [=IPs=], it's only a matter of time before they're gone entirely.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: A ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' was in the works. Of course, [[Creator/InterplayEntertainment Interplay]] [[CreatorsPet loved this one so much]] that they cancelled ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren'' to make the sequel. However, thanks to poor sales, ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' [[{{Irony}} didn't get made either]]. Interestingly, when the design documentation was made public in 2009, it revealed it was have used concepts from both ''Van Buren'' and the cancelled ''Tactics'' sequel.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: A ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' was in the works. Of course, [[Creator/InterplayEntertainment Interplay]] [[CreatorsPet loved this one so much]] that they cancelled ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren'' to make the sequel. However, thanks to poor sales, ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' [[{{Irony}} didn't get made either]]. Interestingly, when the design documentation was made public in 2009, it revealed it was would have used concepts from both ''Van Buren'' and the cancelled ''Tactics'' sequel.
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* RecycledScript: The final act of the game is more or less this for the ending of ''Fallout 1'' - you have a sinister cult (whose leader is an [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute obvious stand-in for the Lieutenant]]) guarding a secret vault where a super mutant army is planning to TakeOverTheWorld, and you, an outsider who recently joined the Brotherhood of Steel, have to single-handedly stop them.
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* FanNickname: The game is usually called "Fallout: [=PoS=]" or "the Burned Game" by its detractors.
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* FanNickname: The game is usually called "Fallout: [=PoS=]" or "the was and is still a somewhat popular one amongst the game's detractors. More recently, "The Burned Game" by its detractors.has gained some popularity.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: A ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' was in the works. Of course, [[Creator/InterplayEntertainment Interplay]] [[CreatorsPet loved this one so much]] that they cancelled ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren'' to make the sequel. However, thanks to poor sales, ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' [[{{Irony}} didn't get made either]].
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: A ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' was in the works. Of course, [[Creator/InterplayEntertainment Interplay]] [[CreatorsPet loved this one so much]] that they cancelled ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren'' to make the sequel. However, thanks to poor sales, ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' [[{{Irony}} didn't get made either]]. Interestingly, when the design documentation was made public in 2009, it revealed it was have used concepts from both ''Van Buren'' and the cancelled ''Tactics'' sequel.
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* InternetBacklash: Even before the game was released, the ''Fallout'' fandom held a great deal of disdain for the title, as its development had further delayed the long-awaited ''[[VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren Van Buren]]'' -- and when it came out to reviews ranging from mediocre to terrible, the backlash only grew. Eventually, Interplay closed down ''the game's official forum'' due to it being filled with nothing but complaints, criticism, and general hatred for the title.
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According to the page, this is a trivia trope. Move it to YMMV if you feel it belongs there - I know the subject is, ah, touchy.
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* InternetBacklash: Even before the game was released, the ''Fallout'' fandom held a great deal of disdain for the title, as its development had further delayed the long-awaited ''[[VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren Van Buren]]'' -- and when it came out to reviews ranging from mediocre to terrible, the backlash only grew. Eventually, Interplay closed down ''the game's official forum'' due to it being filled with nothing but complaints, criticism, and general hatred for the title.
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* CreatorKiller: Poor sales of this game, combined with poor business decisions, caused [[Creator/InterPlayEntertainment Interplay]] to go bankrupt. They're still around, but nowhere near what they used to be.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: A ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' was in the works. Of course, [[Creator/InterplayEntertainment Interplay]] [[CreatorsPet loved this one so much]] that they cancelled ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren'' to make the sequel. However, thanks to poor sales, ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' [[{{Irony}} didn't get made either]].
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: A ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' was in the works. Of course, [[Creator/InterplayEntertainment Interplay]] [[CreatorsPet loved this one so much]] that they cancelled ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren'' to make the sequel. However, thanks to poor sales, ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' [[{{Irony}} didn't get made either]].either]].
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* FanNickname: The game is usually called "Fallout: PoS" or "the Burned Game" by its detractors.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: A ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' was in the works.Of course, [[Creator/InterplayEntertainment Interplay]] [[CreatorsPet loved this one so much]] that they cancelled ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren'' to make the sequel. However, thanks to poor sales, ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' [[{{Irony}} didn't get made either]].
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: A ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' was in the works. Of course, [[Creator/InterplayEntertainment Interplay]] [[CreatorsPet loved this one so much]] that they cancelled ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren'' to make the sequel. However, thanks to poor sales, ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' [[{{Irony}} didn't get made either]].
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: A ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' was in the works.Of course, [[Creator/InterplayEntertainment Interplay]] [[CreatorsPet loved this one so much]] that they cancelled ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren'' to make the sequel. However, thanks to poor sales, [[{{Irony}} the sequel didn't get made either]].
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: A ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' was in the works.Of course, [[Creator/InterplayEntertainment Interplay]] [[CreatorsPet loved this one so much]] that they cancelled ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren'' to make the sequel. However, thanks to poor sales, ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' [[{{Irony}} the sequel didn't get made either]].
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* CreatorKiller: Poor sales of this game, combined with poor business decisions, caused [[Creator/InterPlayEntertainment Interplay]] to go bankrupt. They're still around, but nowhere near what they used to be.
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* CreatorKiller: Poor sales of this game, combined with poor business decisions, caused [[Creator/InterPlayEntertainment Interplay]] to go bankrupt. They're still around, but nowhere near what they used to be.be.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: A ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' was in the works.Of course, [[Creator/InterplayEntertainment Interplay]] [[CreatorsPet loved this one so much]] that they cancelled ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren'' to make the sequel. However, thanks to poor sales, [[{{Irony}} the sequel didn't get made either]].
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: A ''Brotherhood of Steel 2'' was in the works.Of course, [[Creator/InterplayEntertainment Interplay]] [[CreatorsPet loved this one so much]] that they cancelled ''VideoGame/FalloutVanBuren'' to make the sequel. However, thanks to poor sales, [[{{Irony}} the sequel didn't get made either]].
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