History Trivia / Deftones

* OldShame: The band feels embarrassed by the cover for ''Around the Fur'', featuring a downward shot of a wet, bikini-wearing woman's cleavage. Possibly adding to this was the fact that she was a random woman who they met while partying, and Frank Delgado was originally next to her in the back cover photo -- they opted to have him Photoshopped out rather than have to explain to his wife why he was in the hot tub with a strange woman.

** Filmmaker Leigh Whannell (''Film/{{Saw}}'', ''Film/{{Upgrade}}'', ''[[Film/TheInvisibleMan2020 The Invisible Man]]'') was reportedly a fan of the band before being approached to direct a music video for them (which ended up being "Ceremony"). The opportunity was initiated by Whannell tweeting his praises for ''Ohms'', calling it "excellent" and "probably [his] favourite Deftones [album] ever".

* AscendedExtra: Frank Delegado was originally just a hired gun for the band who would handle the synthesizer and samples-based elements of their sound. He became a full-time member by the time ''Music/WhitePony'' was being written.

** Filmmaker Leigh Whannell (''Film/{{Saw}}'', ''Film/{{Upgrade}}'', ''[[Film/TheInvisibleMan2020 The Invisible Man]]'') was reportedly a fan of the band before being approached to direct a music video for them (which ended up being "Ceremony"). The opportunity was a direct result of Whannell tweeting his praises for ''Ohms'', calling it "excellent" and "probably [his] favourite Deftones [album] ever".

* AscendedExtra: Frank Delegado was originally just a hired gun for the band who would handle the synthesizer and samples-based elements of their sound. He became a full-time member by the time ''White Pony'' was being written.
* BlackSheepHit: "Back to School (Mini Maggit)". The song wasn't even supposed to be on ''White Pony'' and was created and released solely to get the label to shut up about a lack of a surefire hit (which it wound up being), and the band hated it from the minute that they recorded it. It still shows up on setlists infrequently, but Chino has made his distaste for the song no secret.
* CreativeDifferences: The struggles between Chino and Stephen over creative directions for the band are the stuff of legend, and have led to many acrimonious writing processes (particularly on ''Saturday Night Wrist'' and ''Gore''). The issue has historically been that Chino's preferences skew towards post-punk, shoegaze, and dream pop, while Stephen is almost exclusively into metal and hardcore hip-hop, and what Chino wants (delicate, ethereal melodies and layered atmospherics) is almost never what Stephen wants (heavy riffs and screaming). It first manifested on ''White Pony'', which was the first album that Chino took a really active role in writing for, and the two got into many arguments over the creative direction, as Stephen wanted to make it their heaviest album yet, while Chino wanted to make a much more diverse and varied album.
* CreatorsApathy: The group has made it clear that "Back to School" was strictly written to get their execs to shut up about the perceived lack of an obvious second single for ''White Pony'' after "Change", as the band and especially Chino considered the album complete and didn't want to mess with it. When they finally caved, Chino took the chorus of "Pink Maggit", slapped some rapped verses on it, and had the band hop into the studio to record it, and by his own admission, the actual writing process for the song took half an hour at most.

** Chino himself grew to '''resent''' the NuMetal label so much that not only did he go on to distance the band from the genre in later works, but also went on to burn bridges with his former peers such as Music/{{Korn}}. That said, Korn (particularly Jonathan Davis) and Chino have since made amends[[note]]Largely because their feud with each other was fueled by Chino's well publicized struggle with alcohol and drugs, and he was bitter going through a tough time when it happened[[/note]].

** Chino also dislikes ''Adrenaline'', and has called it an amateurish release from a bunch of unfocused kids who were in way over their heads and had no idea what they were doing, and almost seemed surprised at how well it turned out given how unprofessional and immature they were at the time.

* CreatorBreakdown: The band went through this during the recording of ''Saturday Night Wrist'', almost breaking up due to internal tensions. It was especially bad for Chino, who was also dealing with drug addiction and a collapsing marriage. The music reflects this occasionally, such as with the line ''I hate all of my friends, they all lack taste sometimes'' from "Hole in the Earth".

-->'''Chino''': This album right here [the White Pony re-release] is not the album that we turned into the label. As far as we're concerned, the first edition was the record. Done. Then they talked us into re-releasing it with another song on it, and it's not like I'm against the song or whatever, but I liked the sequence we had when we first turned it in. When this version came out, a little part inside all of us felt like: 'Fuck! We just totally compromised.' And I know that a lot of our fans felt bad about it, too.
* OldShame: The band feels embarrassed by the cover for ''Around the Fur'', featuring a downward shot of a wet, bikini-wearing woman's cleavage. Possibly adding to this was the fact that she was a random woman who they met while partying, and Frank Delgado was originally next to her in the back cover photo -- they opted to have him photoshopped out rather than have to explain to his wife why he was in the hot tub with a strange woman.
* PromotedFanboy: [[InvertedTrope Inverted]] with Sergio Vega, as they were all fans of Quicksand and counted them as an influence.

* ThrowItIn: Several examples:
** Annie Hardy's "greasy, filthy handjobs" monologue at the end of "Pink Cellphone" was an in-joke (you can actually hear laughter in the background, and Hardy audibly tries to refrain from laughing herself throughout the monologue) that Chino threw in because, in his opinion, the record was already a patchwork clusterfuck, and having a huge BigLippedAlligatorMoment would be consistent with the feel of the record, so he just had Hardy (who had a notoriously bizarre and perverse sense of humor, so Chino ''knew'' that whatever she came up with was going to horrify and probably disgust people) stop by and come up with the most ridiculous shit that she could muster.
** Chino stated that this was how his vocals were recorded on ''Adrenaline'' and ''Saturday Night Wrist''. The former had at least a third of the album improvised on the spot; as per Chino, he was so nervous when he went into the sessions that he straight-up forgot to write lyrics for those songs, and he just sang the first thing that popped into his head and then figured out what he recorded later when it came time for live rehearsals. The latter, meanwhile, had Chino write down whatever came to mind at the last minute after all the other music was done, as he had been in his own world for most of the creative and recording process and hadn't cleared his head until the Team Sleep tour, and by the time he got back, the album was almost done save for vocals and he didn't have time to think it over too much.

* WorkingTitle: "MX" was originally titled "Max" - the band thought the main riff sounded like something [[{{Music/Soulfly}} Max Cavelera]] would write.

* NamesTheSame: Try not to confuse the song "Entombed" with a certain [[Music/{{Entombed}} Swedish death metal band]].

* AuthorExistenceFailure: [[http://www.examiner.com/article/deftones-bassist-dies-chi-cheng-dies-after-being-semi-coma-for-four-years Chi Cheng passed away on April 13, 2013.]]

* TroubledProduction: By their own admission, the recording process of ''Saturday Night Wrist'' almost broke the band up. Moreno's excessive drinking and drug usage and failing marriage distanced him from the rest of the band, and his well-documented creative disputes with Carpenter and general disputes with producer Bob Ezrin put even more stress on the band. The result was a short hiatus that was probably the only thing that kept the band together and allowed them to deal with their problems.

* OldShame: The band feels embarrassed by the cover for ''Around the Fur'', featuring a downward shot of a bikini-wearing woman's cleavage. Possibly adding to this was the fact that she was a random woman who they met while partying, and Frank Delegado was originally next to her in the back cover photo - they had him photoshopped out rather than have to explain to his wife why he was in the hot tub with a strange woman.

* AscendedExtra: Frank Delegado was originally just a hired gun for the band who would handle the synthesizer and samples-based elements of their sound. He became a full-time member by the time White Pony was being written.

* CreatorsApathy: the group has made it clear that "Back to School" was strictly written to get the execs to shut up about the perceived lack of an obvious second single for ''White Pony'', as the band and especially Chino considered the album complete and didn't want to mess with it. When they finally caved, Chino took the chorus of "Pink Maggit", slapped some rapped verses on it, and had the band hop into the studio to record it, and by his own admission, the actual writing process for the song took half an hour tops.
* CreatorBacklash: As stated above, the band was PISSED about the circumstances surrounding the recording and release of [[BlackSheepHit "Back to School (Mini Maggit)"]], which was a cynical attempt to shut up record execs who were badgering them about providing an easily marketable single. It achieved its goal, but the band instantly turned against it and have more or less completely disavowed it. Notably, when the band held an online listening party for ''White Pony'''s 20th anniversary, they skipped over it and started immediately with "Feiticeira", while the 20th anniversary deluxe edition of the album omits the track entirely.
** Not to mention Chino himself grew to '''resent''' the NuMetal label. So much that not only did he go on to distance the band from the genre in later works, but also went on to burn bridges with his former peers, such as Music/{{Korn}}. That said, Korn (particularly Jonathan Davis) and Chino have since made amends[[note]]Largely because their feud with each other was fueled by Chino's well publicized struggle with alcohol and drugs, and he was bitter going through a tough time when it happened[[/note]].

* BigNameFan: Creator/TitusWelliver of Series/{{Bosch}} fame named the Deftones as one of his favorite bands. He even has a ''Music/WhitePony'' tattoo on his right arm.
** Music/MichaelBuble is a fan and particularly loved ''Ohms''.

* CreatorBacklash: As stated above, the band was PISSED about the circumstances surrounding the recording and release of [[BlackSheepHit "Back to School (Mini Maggit)"]], which was a cynical attempt to shut up record execs who were badgering them about providing an easily marketable single. It achieved its goal, but the band instantly turned against it and have more or less completely disavowed it. Notably, when the band held an online listening party for ''White Pony'''s 20th anniversary, they skipped over it and started immediately with "Feiticeira".

** Chino has gone on to bash ''Saturday Night Wrist'', calling it "fucking horrible" and saying recording it was the worst time of his life.

* ThrowItIn: Annie Hardy's "greasy, filthy handjobs" monologue at the end of "Pink Cellphone" was an in-joke (you can actually hear laughter in the background, and Hardy audibly tries to refrain from laughing herself throughout the monologue) that Chino threw in because, in his opinion, the record was already a patchwork clusterfuck, and having a huge BigLippedAlligatorMoment would be consistent with the feel of the record, so he just had Hardy (who had a notoriously bizarre and perverse sense of humor, so Chino ''knew'' that whatever she came up with was going to horrify and probably disgust people) stop by and come up with the most ridiculous shit that she could muster.

* CreatorBacklash: As stated above, the band was PISSED about the circumstances surrounding the recording and release of [[BlackSheepHit "Back to School (Mini Maggit)"]], which was a cynical attempt to shut up record execs who were badgering them about providing an easily marketable single. It achieved its goal, but the band instantly turned against it and have more or less completely disavowed it.

* CreatorsApathy: the group has made it pretty clear that "Back to School" was strictly written to ease the execs into allowing them to continue recording their more experimental endeavor ''White Pony''.

* DevelopmentHell: ''Eros'', which was recorded and implied to be in between ''Saturday Night Wrist'' and ''Diamond Eyes''. When Chi's accident occurred, the album was instead shelved and was intended to be worked on when Chi were to recover. Unfortunately while Chi did recover for a while, he sadly passed away in 2013. The band has expressed interest in releasing ''Eros'' with Chi's final parts, but it's unknown when that'd be the case. Chino ''did'' release a song from ''Eros'' called "Smile" but was removed by Warner Bro. At this point, the band's silence on the matter and lack of any meaningful news in years can be taken as a sign that they've abandoned the album and have no intention of ever releasing it. While "Smile" saw a surprise live appearance at Dia de los Deftones 2019, the band has still not offered any indication that they have changed their mind about it, and popular rumor is that much of the album has been retooled over the years as songs on subsequent releases.

* CreatorsApathy: the group has made it pretty clear that "Back to School" was strictly written to ease the execs into allowing them to continue recording their more experimental endeavor ''White Pony''

* CreatorBacklash: The band was PISSED about the circumstances surrounding the recording and release of [[BlackSheepHit "Back to School (Mini Maggit)"]], which was a cynical attempt to shut up record execs who were badgering them about providing an easily marketable single. It achieved its goal, but the band instantly turned against it and have more or less completely disavowed it.

* DevelopmentHell: ''Eros'', which was recorded and implied to be in between ''Saturday Night Wrist'' and ''Diamond Eyes''. When Chi's accident occurred, the album was instead shelved and was intended to be worked on when Chi were to recover. Unfortunately while Chi did recover for a while, he sadly passed away in 2013. The band has expressed interest in releasing ''Eros'' with Chi's final parts, but it's unknown when that'd be the case. Chino ''did'' release a song from ''Eros'' called "Smile" but was removed by Warner Bros. At this point, the band's silence on the matter and lack of any meaningful news in years can be taken as a sign that they've abandoned the album and have no intention of ever releasing it.

* ThrowItIn: Annie Hardy's "greasy, filthy handjobs" monologue at the end of "Pink Cellphone" was an in-joke (you can actually hear laughter in the background, and Hardy audibly tries to refrain from laughing herself throughout the monologue) that Chino threw in because, in his opinion, the record was already a patchwork clusterfuck, and having a huge BigLippedAlligatorMoment would be consistent with the feel of the record, so he just had Hardy stop by and come up with the most ridiculous shit that she could muster.

* ThrowItIn: Annie Hardy's "greasy, filthy handjobs" monologue at the end of "Pink Cellphone" was an in-joke (you can actually hear laughter in the background, and Hardy audibly tries to refrain from laughing herself throughout the monologue) that was accidentally recorded and was supposed to be left out of the final product, but the producer screwed up and left it in anyways.