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* CreatorBacklash:
** Not the game itself, but Miyazaki isn't exactly happy with how the fight against Gwyn was designed, since it was meant to challenge any build the player would use, instead of being a parry exploit fest. [[spoiler:This is exactly why Gwyn was revamped as [[VideoGame/DarkSoulsIII the Soul of Cinder's]] second phase and the exploit removed.]]
** The designers have expressed regret about Lost Izalith, saying that they were in a time crunch when working on the level and as a result it did not come off as very polished (there's even one area where the background is missing any textures and is featureless gray, though you'd have to be looking for it to see it). Many assume that the Bed of Chaos was part of the reason for this statement (with some falsely saying that Miyazaki directly apologized for the boss), but it was never brough up directly by any of the developers.



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** Not the game itself, but Miyazaki isn't exactly happy with how the fight against Gwyn was designed, since it was meant to challenge any build the player would use, instead of being a parry exploit fest. [[spoiler:This is exactly why Gwyn was revamped as [[VideoGame/DarkSoulsIII the Soul of Cinder's]] second phase and the exploit removed.]]
** The designers have expressed regret about Lost Izalith, saying that they were in a time crunch when working on the level and as a result it did not come off as very polished (there's even one area where the background is missing any textures and is featureless gray, though you'd have to be looking for it to see it). Many assume that the Bed of Chaos was part of the reason for this statement (with some falsely saying that Miyazaki directly apologized for the boss), but it was never brough up directly by any of the developers.
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* TheWikiRule: There are three wikis, [[http://darksouls.wiki.fextralife.com/Dark+Souls+Wiki Dark Souls Wiki]], [[http://darksouls.wikidot.com/ Dark Souls Wikidot Wiki]] and [[http://darksouls.wikia.com/ Dark Souls Wikia]]. The Fextralife wiki (first link) is more gameplay-focused than the other two.
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* CreatorsPest: In one interview with Miyazaki, he explained that he didn't plan for Gwynevere's design as he originally planned for something more "refined" and motherly. When he saw the artist's look of happiness, he just didn't have the heart to say no.
--> '''Hatsuyama''': Can I ask about Gwynevere, because compared to the other female charters she's very different, almost glamorous.\\
'''Miyazaki''': You don't like the design?\\
'''Hatsuyama''': No, I just wanted to know what the original idea behind her was.\\
'''Otsuka''': As a fan of the character, I'd be interested to hear that too.\\
'''Miyazaki''': The truth is that I just wanted to make a really big woman. I think it was a Fujiko F. Fujio manga, (Yasuragi no Yakata, literally Tranquil Mansion) in which there was a company president who joins an exclusive club to escape his stressful work life, and there's this giant woman who takes care of the club members, almost like a mother… don't you think that's just a perfect situation? A giant, considerate, caring woman. The kind we all lost when we grew up; that's what I wanted to make. Originally I wanted to put a mouth in the palm of her hand and we made all of the animations, but it didn't make it into the final game. Talking of glamour, her breasts have nothing to do with me, they happened without my knowledge. It's all the artist's fault. I think I mentioned it earlier but I always seek a certain refinement in all my designs.\\
'''Waragai''': Really?\\
'''Miyazaki''': Yes, but the artist had such a happy look on his face, I didn't have the heart to stop him.

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* ThrowItIn: Maneater Mildred. WordOfGod says that one of the developers, who was a fan of the Executioner Miralda (the black phantom who used a meat cleaver) from ''Demon's Souls'', invaded another developer during debugging and surprised the rest of the development team. They liked it enough that they got the data and quickly wrote up a background for her.

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Maneater Mildred. WordOfGod says that one of the developers, who was a fan of the Executioner Miralda (the black phantom who used a meat cleaver) from ''Demon's Souls'', invaded another developer during debugging and surprised the rest of the development team. They liked it enough that they got the data and quickly wrote up a background for her.her.
** The movement of the Undead Attack Dogs was initially unintentional and "a little off," to quote Miyazaki, but the developers liked how organically unnatural and creepy it was and left it in, reasoning that a deliberate attempt at being that unsettling would be less impactful.
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* FanNickname:
** A bunch for Smough and Ornstein respectively, two particularly hard bosses that you fight at the same time. Popular ones are [[Music/FatboySlim Fatboy and Slim]], [[Music/TheNotoriousBIG Biggie and Smalls]], Buddha and [[Franchise/TheSlenderManMythos Slender Man]], Smores and Oreos, [[WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow Ren and Stimpy]], [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Snorlax and Pikachu]], and [[WesternAnimation/PinkyAndTheBrain Pinky and the Brain]].
** Giant Ornstein (the form he takes after Smough dies) has been referred to as "Ornsteroids".
*** Collectively, they have the nickname Super Londo Smash Bros.
** [[StatuesqueStunner "Titty Monster" or "Boobevere"]] for the Queen of Sunlight Gwynevere. Members of the Princess Guard covenant are sometimes referred to as Titty Guards.
** Blightown is being called "[[VideoGame/DemonsSouls Valley of Defilement 2.0]]", for using the same poison swamp setting and wooden platforms. Also sometimes named "Lagtown" due to the framerate drops, or "Laagtown" to combine the former with a pun about Chaos Witch Quelaag, the level's boss (who is correspondingly called the "Queen of Laagtown"). Some simply refer to it as "Sucktown", largely due to its DifficultySpike.
** The Gargoyles are called "Maneaters 2.0", for being a very similar but much easier take on the boss from ''Demon's Souls''.
** Chaos Witch Quelaag has been nicknamed "Chaos Bitch Kelloggs", or just simply "Spidertits".
** Quelaag's sister is only called "Daughter of Chaos" by the game itself, but has been named "Quelaan" by the fan community (which was originally thought to be canonical, but now is no longer seen as such). Other nicknames given to her are "The White Lady" or "The Fair Lady", [[InSeriesNickname the latter being what Eingyi refers to her as]].
** Darkroot Garden and has been dubbed "Dickstab Garden" due to Forest Hunters constantly invading players. Forest Hunters themselves are sometimes called "Park Rangers" for the same reason.
** "Sunbro" and "Brolaire" for Solaire of Astora due to him being a great help in boss battles. The Sunbro nickname has spread to all the players that joined the Warrior of Sunlight covenant, as that puts an emphasis on "[[MemeticMutation jolly cooperation!]]" Players also glow a bright gold, the same as Solaire has.
** Laurentius of the Great Swamp has been referred to as "Swampbro" and "Pyrobro".
** "Wolfbro" for Great Grey Wolf Sif.
** Siegmeyer (or mostly anybody wearing the Catarina set) is known as "Onionbro" due to his helmet looking like an onion. Sieglinde (Siegmeyer's daughter) is often called "Onionsis" by association.
** The Giant Blacksmith has been referred to as "Fapsmith", due to the fact that, [[http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/712/951/9ac.gif if viewed from a certain angle]], it looks less like he's hammering and more like he's doing [[ADateWithRosiePalms something else entirely]].
** Gravelord Nito has been referred to as "Papa Nito". Members of the Gravelord covenant are often called "Waitlords", in reference to the fact that Gravelording consists of a lot of fruitless sitting around waiting for players you've infected to invade you. Alternatively, this waiting-created boredom combined with the ability to dance (thanks to the Channeler's Trident) have inevitably lead to the name "Ravelords". In the Japanese community (especially in Pixiv), Gravelord Nito is called "[[{{NEET}} Gravelord NEET]]" thanks to his Japanese name's pronounciation, and how he stays in the catacombs like a real NEET.
** Lautrec is known as "Yurt 2.0" and "Gold Yurt" considering the way you meet him (in a jail cell) and [[spoiler:what he does after you free him (killing an important character)]].
** Anor Londo is called "Anal Rondo" or "Anal Rodeo" by some, in reference to its difficulty (especially the bridge part with Silver Knights firing javelins at you).
** The official guide refers to the unseen crow NPC in the Undead Asylum as Hawk Girl, but Sparkly and/or Snuggly are more popular.
** Sen's Fortress can be "Sen's Funhouse," or, as the result of a humorous typo, "Super Nintendo (Entertainment System / [[FunWithAcronyms SNES]]) Fortress."
** Estus is often called "Sunny D", because an Estus Flask that still has uses is roughly the same color and shape as a half gallon of the drink. Appropriately, the fans made texture mods when the PC version was released, replacing the Estus Flask icon with a Sunny D bottle.
** Members of the Darkwraith Covenant are commonly referred to as "Dickwraiths". In a similar manner, members of the Darkmoon Covenant are sometimes referred to as "Dorkmoons".
** Due to one of Knight Artorias' attacks in which he throws a liquefied form of the Abyss that looks like dark blue/black ink, he is sometimes called "Knight of the Oil Spill".
** In Japan, Xanthous King Jeremiah's infamous turban is nicknamed "Borraginol", after a brand of suppositories sold in Japan. Some Let's Players even go so far to include the Borraginol jingle (cheerfully saying "Borraginol for your hemorrhoids!") when they use the armor.
** The sad moments of the game (typically the death of Sif) are referred to as "[[TearJerker Prepare to Cry Edition]]".
** In [[PlayerVersusPlayer PvP]], a player getting backstabbed even though the other player was not in a position where they could backstab them (out of backstab range, in front of you, etc.) is often called a lagstab, since the most common reason for this phenomenon is UsefulNotes/{{Latency}} differences.
** A loadout involving the use of the Mask of the Father, three pieces of the Giant set, and usually a zweihander and Grass Crest Shield, is typically called the [[MemeticMutation Giantdad]] loadout. A similar, but not quite as popular, loadout using the Mask of the Mother is called the Giantmom loadout.
** The Ring of Favor and Protection is often called the "Ring of Fap"/"Fap Ring", for [[OverlyLongName obvious]] [[FunWithAcronyms reasons]].
** Players in the community will address each other as "Skeleton", particularly when encouraging each other with the phrase "Don't give up, skeleton!" after a [[Memes/DarkSouls meme]] originating in ''VideoGame/DarkSoulsII''.
** The Balder Side Sword earned the nickname "Baller Swag Sword" for being a really damn good Dexterity weapon.
** The Bounding Demons of Izalith earned the moniker of "dragon asses" thanks to them blatantly being living versions of the Painted World Zombie Dragon's lower half.
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* Blooper: When talking to Logan in the Duke's Archives, one of his lines was not edited down into a single take, leading him to repeat it.

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* TheWikiRule: There are three wikis, [[http://darksouls.wiki.fextralife.com/Dark+Souls+Wiki Dark Souls Wiki]], [[http://darksouls.wikidot.com/ Dark Souls Wikidot Wiki]] and [[http://darksouls.wikia.com/ Dark Souls Wikia]].

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* TheWikiRule: There are three wikis, [[http://darksouls.wiki.fextralife.com/Dark+Souls+Wiki Dark Souls Wiki]], [[http://darksouls.wikidot.com/ Dark Souls Wikidot Wiki]] and [[http://darksouls.wikia.com/ Dark Souls Wikia]]. The Fextralife wiki (first link) is more gameplay-focused than the other two.
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* DummiedOut: A variety of items and quests were dummied out. However, a few armor sets like the Elite Cleric Set and the Mage Smith Armor can be obtained by modifying your saved game.
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*** Collectively, they have the nickname Super Londo Smash Bros.
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** The Ring of Favor and Protection is often called the "Ring of [[FunWithAcronyms Fap]]"/"Fap Ring", for [[OverlyLongName obvious]] [[reasons]].

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** People quoting Andre's parting words to player often cut his two lines down to "Don't go turnin' Hollow."[[note]]His ''actual'' quote is "Don't get yourself killed, neither of us wants to see you go Hollow.".[[/note]]

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** People quoting Andre's parting words to player often cut his two lines down to "Don't go turnin' Hollow."[[note]]His ''actual'' " His actual quote is "Don't get yourself killed, neither of us wants to see you go Hollow.".[[/note]]"



** Solaire also at no point utters the words "Praise the Sun", that instead being the name of a gesture used by the covenant he belongs to.

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** Solaire also at no point utters the words "Praise the Sun", that instead being the name of a gesture used by the covenant he belongs to.



** The Silent Comedy received this when their songs, Bartholomew and All Saints Day, were featured in a couple of trailers for the game.
** The two Souls games also help spark up interest in Creator/FromSoftware's King's Field series, which never caught on in the states.

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** The Silent Comedy received this when their songs, Bartholomew ""Bartholomew" and All "All Saints Day, Day", were featured in a couple of trailers for the game.
** The two Souls games also help spark up ''Souls'' series sparked interest in Creator/FromSoftware's King's Field ''VideoGame/KingsField'' series, which was the originator for the medieval theme and some elements of the game (such as a dragon named Seath and the Moonlight Greatsword) but never caught on in the states.



* FanNickname: A bunch for Smough and Ornstein respectively, two particularly hard bosses that you fight at the same time. Popular ones are [[Music/FatboySlim Fatboy and Slim]], [[Music/TheNotoriousBIG Biggie and Smalls]], Buddha and [[Franchise/TheSlenderManMythos Slender Man]], Smores and Oreos, [[WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow Ren and Stimpy]], [[{{VideoGame/Pokemon}} Snorlax and Pikachu]], and [[WesternAnimation/PinkyAndTheBrain Pinky and the Brain]].
** Giant Ornstein has been referred to as Ornsteroids.
** [[StatuesqueStunner Titty Monster (or Boobevere)]], for the Queen of Sunlight Gwynevere. Members of the Princess Guard covenant are sometimes referred to as Titty Guards.
** Blightown is being called [[VideoGame/DemonsSouls Valley of Defilement 2.0]] Also sometimes named "Lagtown" due to the framerate drops, or "Laagtown" to combine the former with a pun about Chaos Witch Quelaag, the level's boss (who is correspondingly called the "Queen of Laagtown.") Some simply refer to it as "Sucktown", largely due to its DifficultySpike.
** The Gargoyles are also being called Maneaters 2.0
** Chaos Witch Quelaag has been nicknamed Chaos Bitch Kelloggs, or just simply Spidertits.
** Quelaag's sister has been named "Quelaan" by the fan community. Other nicknames given to her are "The White Lady" or "The Fair Lady", [[InSeriesNickname the latter being what Eingyi refers to her as.]]
** Darkroot Garden and has been dubbed ''Dickstab Garden'' due to Forest Hunters constantly invading players. Forest Hunters themselves are sometimes called "Park Rangers" for the same reason.
** Sunbro and Brolaire for Solaire of Astora due to him being a great help in boss battles. The Sunbro nickname has spread to all the players that joined the Warrior of Sunlight covenant, as that puts an emphasis on "[[MemeticMutation jolly cooperation!]]" Players also glow a bright gold, the same as Solaire has.
** In a similar vein to Solaire and Siegmeyer, Laurentius of the Great Swamp has been referred to as Swampbro and Pyrobro.
** Wolfbro, for Great Grey Wolf Sif.
** Siegmeyer (or mostly anybody wearing the Catarina set) is known as Onionbro due to his helmet looking like, well, an onion. Sieglinde (Siegmeyer's daughter) is often called "Onionsis" by association.
** The Giant Blacksmith has been referred to as Fapsmith, due to the fact that, [[http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/712/951/9ac.gif if viewed from a certain angle]], it looks less like he's hammering and more like he's doing [[ADateWithRosiePalms something else entirely]].
** Gravelord Nito has been referred to as Papa Nito. Members of the Gravelord covenant are often called Waitlords, in reference to the fact that Gravelording consists of a lot of fruitless sitting around waiting for players you've infected to invade you. Alternatively, this waiting-created boredom combined with the ability to dance (thanks to the Channeler's Trident) have inevitably lead to the name Ravelords. In Japanese community (especially in Pixiv) however, Gravelord Nito is being called [[{{NEET}} Gravelord NEET]] [[note]] Gravelord Neeto [[/note]] thanks to his Japanese name's pronounciation, and he stays in the catacombs like a real NEET.
** Lautrec is know as Yurt 2.0 and Gold Yurt considering the way you meet him and [[spoiler: what he does after you free him]].

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A bunch for Smough and Ornstein respectively, two particularly hard bosses that you fight at the same time. Popular ones are [[Music/FatboySlim Fatboy and Slim]], [[Music/TheNotoriousBIG Biggie and Smalls]], Buddha and [[Franchise/TheSlenderManMythos Slender Man]], Smores and Oreos, [[WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow Ren and Stimpy]], [[{{VideoGame/Pokemon}} [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Snorlax and Pikachu]], and [[WesternAnimation/PinkyAndTheBrain Pinky and the Brain]].
** Giant Ornstein (the form he takes after Smough dies) has been referred to as Ornsteroids.
"Ornsteroids".
** [[StatuesqueStunner Titty Monster (or Boobevere)]], "Titty Monster" or "Boobevere"]] for the Queen of Sunlight Gwynevere. Members of the Princess Guard covenant are sometimes referred to as Titty Guards.
** Blightown is being called [[VideoGame/DemonsSouls "[[VideoGame/DemonsSouls Valley of Defilement 2.0]] 0]]", for using the same poison swamp setting and wooden platforms. Also sometimes named "Lagtown" due to the framerate drops, or "Laagtown" to combine the former with a pun about Chaos Witch Quelaag, the level's boss (who is correspondingly called the "Queen of Laagtown.") Laagtown"). Some simply refer to it as "Sucktown", largely due to its DifficultySpike.
** The Gargoyles are also being called Maneaters "Maneaters 2.0
0", for being a very similar but much easier take on the boss from ''Demon's Souls''.
** Chaos Witch Quelaag has been nicknamed Chaos "Chaos Bitch Kelloggs, Kelloggs", or just simply Spidertits.
"Spidertits".
** Quelaag's sister is only called "Daughter of Chaos" by the game itself, but has been named "Quelaan" by the fan community. community (which was originally thought to be canonical, but now is no longer seen as such). Other nicknames given to her are "The White Lady" or "The Fair Lady", [[InSeriesNickname the latter being what Eingyi refers to her as.]]
as]].
** Darkroot Garden and has been dubbed ''Dickstab Garden'' "Dickstab Garden" due to Forest Hunters constantly invading players. Forest Hunters themselves are sometimes called "Park Rangers" for the same reason.
** Sunbro "Sunbro" and Brolaire "Brolaire" for Solaire of Astora due to him being a great help in boss battles. The Sunbro nickname has spread to all the players that joined the Warrior of Sunlight covenant, as that puts an emphasis on "[[MemeticMutation jolly cooperation!]]" Players also glow a bright gold, the same as Solaire has.
** In a similar vein to Solaire and Siegmeyer, Laurentius of the Great Swamp has been referred to as Swampbro "Swampbro" and Pyrobro.
"Pyrobro".
** Wolfbro, "Wolfbro" for Great Grey Wolf Sif.
** Siegmeyer (or mostly anybody wearing the Catarina set) is known as Onionbro "Onionbro" due to his helmet looking like, well, like an onion. Sieglinde (Siegmeyer's daughter) is often called "Onionsis" by association.
** The Giant Blacksmith has been referred to as Fapsmith, "Fapsmith", due to the fact that, [[http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/712/951/9ac.gif if viewed from a certain angle]], it looks less like he's hammering and more like he's doing [[ADateWithRosiePalms something else entirely]].
** Gravelord Nito has been referred to as Papa Nito. "Papa Nito". Members of the Gravelord covenant are often called Waitlords, "Waitlords", in reference to the fact that Gravelording consists of a lot of fruitless sitting around waiting for players you've infected to invade you. Alternatively, this waiting-created boredom combined with the ability to dance (thanks to the Channeler's Trident) have inevitably lead to the name Ravelords. "Ravelords". In the Japanese community (especially in Pixiv) however, Pixiv), Gravelord Nito is being called [[{{NEET}} "[[{{NEET}} Gravelord NEET]] [[note]] Gravelord Neeto [[/note]] NEET]]" thanks to his Japanese name's pronounciation, and how he stays in the catacombs like a real NEET.
** Lautrec is know known as Yurt "Yurt 2.0 0" and Gold Yurt "Gold Yurt" considering the way you meet him (in a jail cell) and [[spoiler: what [[spoiler:what he does after you free him]].him (killing an important character)]].



** The official guide refers to the unseen crow [=NPC=] in the Undead Asylum as Hawk Girl, but Sparkly and/or Snuggly are more popular.

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** The official guide refers to the unseen crow [=NPC=] NPC in the Undead Asylum as Hawk Girl, but Sparkly and/or Snuggly are more popular.



** Estus is often called Sunny D, because an Estus Flask that still has uses is roughly the same color and shape as a half gallon of the drink. Appropriately, the fans made texture mods when the PC version was released, replacing the Estus Flask icon with a Sunny D bottle.

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** Estus is often called Sunny D, "Sunny D", because an Estus Flask that still has uses is roughly the same color and shape as a half gallon of the drink. Appropriately, the fans made texture mods when the PC version was released, replacing the Estus Flask icon with a Sunny D bottle.



** Due to one of Knight Artorias' attacks in which he throws a liquefied form of the Abyss that looks like dark blue/black ink, he is sometimes called Knight of the Oil Spill.

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** Due to one of Knight Artorias' attacks in which he throws a liquefied form of the Abyss that looks like dark blue/black ink, he is sometimes called Knight "Knight of the Oil Spill.Spill".



** [[TearJerker Prepare to Cry Edition]]
** A meta example: in [[PlayerVersusPlayer PvP]], if one player gets backstabbed even though the other player was not in a position where they could backstab you (out of backstab range, in front of you, etc.) is often called a lagstab, since the most common reason for this phenomenon is UsefulNotes/{{Latency}} differences.

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** [[TearJerker The sad moments of the game (typically the death of Sif) are referred to as "[[TearJerker Prepare to Cry Edition]]
Edition]]".
** A meta example: in In [[PlayerVersusPlayer PvP]], if one a player gets getting backstabbed even though the other player was not in a position where they could backstab you them (out of backstab range, in front of you, etc.) is often called a lagstab, since the most common reason for this phenomenon is UsefulNotes/{{Latency}} differences.



** The Ring of Favor and Protection is often called the Ring of [[FunWithAcronyms Fap]]/Fap Ring, for [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar obvious]] [[OverlyLongName reasons.]]

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** The Ring of Favor and Protection is often called the Ring "Ring of [[FunWithAcronyms Fap]]/Fap Ring, Fap]]"/"Fap Ring", for [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar obvious]] [[OverlyLongName reasons.]]obvious]] [[reasons]].



* FlipFlopOfGod: According to the Dark Souls Official Guide, the Bed of Chaos Guardian's real name is Quelaana, which would fit right in with the prefix convention of the Chaos Sisters (Quelana of Izalith and Quelaag). However, the guide also describes the Bed of Chaos Guardian as a [[WholesomeCrossdresser male]]...
** The translators were working with enemies without any ''real'' official names, just in-studio concept names that the development team would refer to enemies as for ease of discussion - thus the mistake. It doesn't help that the Bed of Chaos Guardian and Quelana use exactly the same character model (as they're both Daughters of Chaos).

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* FlipFlopOfGod: According to the Dark Souls Official Guide, the Bed of Chaos Guardian's real name is Quelaana, which would fit right in with the prefix convention of the Chaos Sisters (Quelana ** The Bounding Demons of Izalith and Quelaag). However, earned the guide also describes moniker of "dragon asses" thanks to them blatantly being living versions of the Bed of Chaos Guardian as a [[WholesomeCrossdresser male]]...
** The translators were working with enemies without any ''real'' official names, just in-studio concept names that the development team would refer to enemies as for ease of discussion - thus the mistake. It doesn't help that the Bed of Chaos Guardian and Quelana use exactly the same character model (as they're both Daughters of Chaos).
Painted World Zombie Dragon's lower half.



* MemeAcknowledgement: "It's like ''Dark Souls''" [[MemeticMutation quickly]] became a shorthand for any game more than slightly difficult. The box for the Remaster [[https://twitter.com/Leovinus/status/1000427002476810240 references this.]]

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* MemeAcknowledgement: "It's like ''Dark Souls''" [[MemeticMutation quickly]] became a shorthand for any game more than slightly difficult. The box for the Remaster [[https://twitter.com/Leovinus/status/1000427002476810240 ''Dark Souls Remastered'' references this.]]



** Similarly, the designers have expressed regret about Lost Izalith, saying that they were in a time crunch when working on the level and as a result it did not come off as very polished (there's even one area where the background is missing any textures and is featureless gray, though you'd have to be looking for it to see it). Especially the Bed of Chaos boss fight, which many fans regard as one of the worst fights in the ''Souls'' series.
* ShrugOfGod: Director Hidetaka Miyazaki's stance on whether the pendant has any secret use in game, though he encourages players to keep looking.
* TeasingCreator: Miyazaki is like this; he doesn't say if the pendent has any secret use, but encourages players to continue looking. He states that Ceaseless Dicharge is skippable ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk-wilWUSQM he is]]), before mysteriously stating that maybe he isn't (some of the equipment used to make that run was later nerfed, so it may no longer be possible).
** Regarding the Pendant, [[http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/11/02/dark-souls-miyazaki-talks-artorias-of-the-abyss Miyazaki later went on to say that it's a prank of sorts.]]

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** Similarly, the The designers have expressed regret about Lost Izalith, saying that they were in a time crunch when working on the level and as a result it did not come off as very polished (there's even one area where the background is missing any textures and is featureless gray, though you'd have to be looking for it to see it). Especially Many assume that the Bed of Chaos boss fight, which many fans regard as one was part of the worst fights in reason for this statement (with some falsely saying that Miyazaki directly apologized for the ''Souls'' series.
* ShrugOfGod: Director Hidetaka Miyazaki's stance on whether
boss), but it was never brough up directly by any of the pendant has any secret use in game, though he encourages players to keep looking.
developers.
* TeasingCreator: Miyazaki is like this; he doesn't say if liked to be coy about certain secrets in the pendent has any secret use, but encourages players game during its heyday. He encouraged fans to continue looking. He states that Ceaseless Dicharge is skippable ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk-wilWUSQM he is]]), before mysteriously stating that maybe he isn't (some of keep hunting for a use for the equipment used to make that run was later nerfed, so it may no longer be possible).
** Regarding the Pendant,
Pendant for a long time [[http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/11/02/dark-souls-miyazaki-talks-artorias-of-the-abyss Miyazaki later went on to say before admitting it was a prank]], and stated that it's a prank of sorts.]] Ceaseless Dicharge is skippable before mysteriously stating that maybe he isn't (it is possible, both legitimately and with glitches, but the methods used make it obvious that it wasn't dev-intended).



* ThrowItIn: Surprisingly enough, Maneater Mildred. WordOfGod says that one of the developers, who was a fan of the Meat Cleaver black phantom from ''Demon's Souls'', invaded another developer during debugging and surprised the rest of the development team. They liked it enough that they got the data and quickly wrote up a background for her.
* TrollingCreator: When the game was released, game director Hidetaka Miyazaki hinted that the pendant you could choose as a starting item would be a ChekhovsGun. A year later, Miyazaki later admitted that the pendant is completely useless since the whole thing was intended as a prank. So basically, Miyazaki tricked hundreds or even thousands of players into ''choosing a completely worthless pendant as their starting item!''
** Even better is the nature of this prank. Players would only have to see it to believe there was some use for it, and from there came an endless stream of theories. For that to happen, all that had to be done regarding the Pendant is it had to be in the game, and the very nature of ''Dark Souls'' as a game did the rest. Miyazaki played a very elaborate prank by simply putting the Pendant in the game.

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* ThrowItIn: Surprisingly enough, Maneater Mildred. WordOfGod says that one of the developers, who was a fan of the Meat Cleaver Executioner Miralda (the black phantom who used a meat cleaver) from ''Demon's Souls'', invaded another developer during debugging and surprised the rest of the development team. They liked it enough that they got the data and quickly wrote up a background for her.
* TrollingCreator: When the game was released, game director Hidetaka Miyazaki hinted that the pendant you could choose as a starting item (the only other way to get one is to let Petrus kill Reah) would be a ChekhovsGun. A year later, Miyazaki later admitted that the pendant is completely useless since the whole thing was intended as a prank. So basically, Miyazaki tricked prank, tricking hundreds or even thousands of players into ''choosing choosing a completely worthless pendant as their starting item!''
** Even better is the nature of this prank. Players would only have to see it to believe there was some use for it, and from there came an endless stream of theories. For that to happen, all that had to be done regarding the Pendant is it had to be in the game, and the very nature of ''Dark Souls'' as a game did the rest. Miyazaki played a very elaborate prank by simply putting the Pendant in the game.
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%%** Since the game's release there have been dozens of different rumors pertaining to the Furtive Pygmy.%%Is this a rumor about hidden/secret content within the game? If not, then it is not an Urban Legend of Zelda.
** A persistent rumor claimed that the player has the option to spare the Great Grey Wolf Sif and that you would get his sword as a reward for doing so. No proof or method has been found, but many still believe there is a way to accomplish this. It ''is'' possible to technically spare Sif, by using a certain glitch to transfer the Covenant of Artorias to a new character. You get no proper resolution for it, of course.
** [[WordOfGod Hidetaka Miyazaki]] suggested before the game released that the player should choose the Pendant as a starting gift or nothing at all. Many players believed this to be a hint that the Pendant had a secret hidden use, and a crusade began to find the truth about the item, but nothing was found. Rumors began circulating until [[TrollingCreator Miyazaki eventually broke and admitted that the Pendant has no use.]][[note]]Despite this, there is precisely ''one'' use for the pendant (although even then it's not a very good one)- [[spoiler:you can trade it to Snuggly the Crow for a Souvenir of Reprisal, used to advance in the Blade of the Darkmoon covenant]]. Not really a "use", but it's ''something.''[[/note]]
* TheWikiRule: There are three wikis, [[http://darksouls.wiki.fextralife.com/Dark+Souls+Wiki Dark Souls Wiki]], [[http://darksouls.wikidot.com/ Dark Souls Wikidot Wiki]] and [[http://darksouls.wikia.com/ Dark Souls Wikia]]

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%%** Since the game's release there have been dozens of different rumors pertaining to the Furtive Pygmy.%%Is this a rumor about hidden/secret content within the game? If not, then it is not an Urban Legend of Zelda.
** A persistent rumor claimed that the player has the option to spare the Great Grey Wolf Sif and that you would get his sword as a reward for doing so. No proof or method has been found, but many still believe there is a way to accomplish this. It ''is'' is possible to technically spare Sif, by using a certain glitch to transfer the Covenant of Artorias to a new character. You get no proper resolution for it, of course.
** [[WordOfGod Hidetaka Miyazaki]] suggested before the game released that the player should choose the Pendant as a starting gift or nothing at all. Many players believed this to be a hint that the Pendant had a secret hidden use, and a crusade began to find the truth about the item, but nothing was found. Rumors began circulating until [[TrollingCreator Miyazaki eventually broke and admitted that the Pendant has no use.]][[note]]Despite use]]. Despite this, there is precisely ''one'' one use for the pendant (although even then it's not a very good one)- [[spoiler:you one): you can trade it to Snuggly the Crow for a Souvenir of Reprisal, used to advance in the Blade of the Darkmoon covenant]]. Not really a "use", but it's ''something.''[[/note]]
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* TheWikiRule: There are three wikis, [[http://darksouls.wiki.fextralife.com/Dark+Souls+Wiki Dark Souls Wiki]], [[http://darksouls.wikidot.com/ Dark Souls Wikidot Wiki]] and [[http://darksouls.wikia.com/ Dark Souls Wikia]]Wikia]].



** Miyazaki has [[http://pastebin.com/4axrD3nW stated]] that the Pygmy is the ancestor of humanity and that humanity inherited a piece of the Dark Soul through him. [[spoiler:''Dark Souls III'' elaborates on this significantly.]]

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** Miyazaki has [[http://pastebin.com/4axrD3nW stated]] stated that the Pygmy is the ancestor of humanity and that humanity inherited a piece of the Dark Soul through him. [[spoiler:''Dark Souls III'' elaborates on this significantly.]]



* WritingByTheSeatOfYourPants: Like many other video games, story comes after the game. Miyazaki has said in interviews that he makes up the lore as he goes along.

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* WritingByTheSeatOfYourPants: Like many other video games, story comes after the game. Miyazaki has said in interviews that he makes made up the lore of ''Dark Souls'' as he goes went along.
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* RealSongThemeTune: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC9POpjnB9g "Bartholomew", by the Silent Comedy]], is used in one of the game's trailers.
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** Solaire also at no point utters the words "Praise the Sun", that instead being the name of a gesture used by the covenant he belongs to.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Lots of stuff were scrapped during development.
** Quelaag originally had a rather long intro speech which ran from when you entered her domain to when you entered the fog gate for the boss battle. But Miyazaki felt that the script for it was of poor quality and that it took something from her character.
** Priscilla was originally supposed to be a major heroine, akin to the Maiden in Black from ''Videogame/DemonsSouls''. Due to her original role becoming obsolete with the addition of the fire keepers, she was placed in the Painted World of Ariamis due to the location's winter atmosphere.
*** On top of that The Painted World of Ariamis that was used for Priscilla was the actual basis from which the Project Dark prototype was turned into ''Videopgame/DarkSouls''. Gravelord Nito was originally supposed to be the area boss instead of Priscilla, with the latter's boss arena actually being a crumbling floor, much like the Stray Demon. After spending so much time creating the area for the prototype, Miyazaki was determined to include it in the final product, but couldn't do it coherently in accordance to the rest of the game world. So he ended up "cheating" and created the Painted World.
** The knight that gives you the Estus Flask was originally named Oscar and was intended to be your rival throughout the game, siding with whichever serpent you didn't, instead of dying when you reach up to him after the Asylum Demon. The name used in the strategy guide is the only holdover from this incarnation.
** Andre was originally supposed to be a descendant of Gwyn and more imposing, serving as the guardian of the door to the Firelink Shrine. He was also supposed to move the goddess statue found in the ruined temple, allowing the player to progress with the story.
** The statue would then reveal a path down into the Firelink Altar, aftering passing through the secret entrance, the player would then walk down the staircase, which is broken in the final release, and into the heart of the chamber, as opposed to simply being warped there by Frampt.
** Content that was cut from the game reveals that entering into a Covenant with Velka would be possible. Said covenant was quite possibly merged with or was turned into the Darkmoon Covenant.
** When Smough was first conceived, he was originally supposed to be one of the Four Knights. Miyazaki allegedly liked him so much he decided against making him a knight and worked it into his backstory as a heretic who wished to join the Four Knights.
** There was ConceptArt of Abyss Walker Artorias drawn for the game, indicating he might have made an appearance at one point. He appears in the UpdatedRerelease, albeit with a different character design than his original.
** Gwynevere was based on a character from a manga called ''Yasaragi no Yakata'', or ''Tranquil Mansion'', where members of an exclusive club would have a giant woman care for them as if they were children. One idea was that she would lower her hand for the player character to kiss, there is even animations for it, but the idea was scrapped. She was originally going to be more lithe and elegant looking compared to the... voluptuous version that ended up in the game. The artist who designed her was so [[AuthorAppeal proud]] of the concept art when he showed it to Director Miyazaki that the Director couldn't bring himself to reject the design.
** Firelink Shrine was supposed to be a water temple: a very healing locale with water, greenery, soft light, and subtle music. As the idea of Kindling and Frampt's arrival developed, the water eventually dried up to what is seen in the final product. Even the bonfire was moved, since the uneven ground of the original placement interfered with the player's sitting animations. The finalized bonfire location was originally a small pond.
** The boss fight atop the Undead Parish was originally the Demon Centipede, but due to how ridiculous it seemed, the Centipede was moved and replaced with the Gargoyles.
** Oswald of Carim was originally supposed to be a woman of age 60, and you were originally supposed to use an Affidavit item, similar to the Indictment item, to leave your current Covenant instead of being able to straight-up ask to him.
** Artorias was originally going to have dialog during his boss fight. It was cut for whatever reason, but the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M94DZSEE1kw files were left in the game.]]
** By hacking the game and making the debug menu available, [[http://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls/comments/1978yr/video_and_screenshots_of_unused_bosses_and/ one Dark Souls fan]] found some very interesting character models that were dummied out of the final game.
*** Of these include an undead clad in bizarre gold armor named "[[http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130923211951/darksouls/images/4/47/Undead_King_Jar-Eel.jpg Undead King Jar-Eel]]", a darkwraith with the power of life drain who would have been the boss of New Londo. The Four Kings use a portion of his coding, and even appear to be wearing a corrupted version of his armor. Presumably, he was removed for being too similar to Gwyn, (a tall, humanoid enemy which has become a husk of his former self). Ingward was also supposed to sic him on you as a test to prove whether or not you're worthy of entering the Abyss.
*** There's also an alternate Bed of Chaos that appears to have been designed as a more traditional boss fight with crawling and jumping animations. WordOfGod says that the original Bed of Chaos was supposed to have a stronger boss fight concept, but instead became the relatively simple-but-irritating PuzzleBoss due to time constraints that kept the concept from being properly polished.
*** There are also a few unused enemies like the Brain Bugs and the Claw-Hollows, which we saw fan art for but were never seen in the final game.
** A dummied-out "side quest" had you rescuing Petrus from the necromancers of the Catacombs to start his and Rhea's character arc, instead of being able to encounter him from the get-go and starting the arc via ringing the first Bell of Awakening. [[spoiler:Although it may have been cut to keep aware players from figuring out his intentions as easily.]]
** Shiva was supposed to be something similar to what happens with Lautrec: he would attack you if you either showed him the Chaos Blade - in an attempt to take it from you - or gave it to him, in an attempt to test it on a worthy opponent. This would also serve as a CallBack to ''Videogame/DemonsSouls'', in which Master Satsuki would attack the player if they showed him the Magic Sword "Makoto" (or would attack them if they voluntarily handed it over to him). In addition, he was also supposed to be invaded in the Painted World with a Black Eye Orb (as with Lautrec) in order to re-obtain the weapon. The scripts for the invasion is still in the game, but are unimplemented.
** Dusk of Oolacile was originally supposed to summon you to her world in order to rescue her, rather than freeing her from the golem. However, the dev team didn't take the concept seriously, and the idea was scrapped. The ''Artorias of the Abyss'' content was 99% rebuilt from the initial idea, but a small number of things are still in the game files.
*** An alternate version of Kalameet that had a different appearance, unique attack animations, a tail that couldn't be severed, and he was supposed to be a more airborne opponent with the same range of movement as the Belfry Gargoyles. He even had a unique stagger animation for if he was felled from being airborne.
*** A few early versions of Marvelous Chester exist. One version that looked more like his concept art from the Collector's Edition art book and two versions that were sans his top hat and longcoat that wielded a black-bladed zwiehander.
*** [[http://imgur.com/a/P16WN Witch Beatrice originally had an unique younger model]] that greatly resembled her concept art, although whether she was to have been encountered in the early idea of Oolacile is unknown.
*** An early version of the Sanctuary Guardian that breathed fire instead of lightning. This version was to be an enemy encountered in Blighttown, the Demon Ruins, and Lost Izalith. The "bounding demons" (a.k.a. the ass ends of the Undead Dragons) found in Izalith may be replacements for this version of the Sanctuary Guardian.
** The triple-shot crossbow Avelyn was originally supposed to belong to Domhnall of Zena before the developers turned it into an elusive treasure.
** There are a number of unused animations still in the game files:
*** A number of animations for Anastacia from when she was outside of her cell - a talking cycle, a damage cycle, a death cycle, and a "rebirth" cycle.
*** Andre does not have a typical idle cycle, but had a talking cycle where his mouth moved. He also had a transitional cycle where he would put away his hammer before attacking if he was attacked.
*** Priscilla has only two animations - a sitting animation and an animation where she stands up.
*** The Ancient Dragon had a number of animations that indicate that it could have been an enemy.
*** Frampt/Kaathe have a number of attack animations.
*** Chester had a sitting animation, a sitting damage animation, a standing animation, and an animation where he is using an item.
*** Gwyndolin had different damage animations, a knocked-down animation, a sitting animation, a sitting damage animation, a standing animation, and different movement animations.
*** Gwynevere had a talking animation, an animation where she puts her hand out, a talking animation for that pose, and an animation where she draws her hand back toward her. The hand movement animations are tied to a cut idea, where the player character would kiss the back of her hand. Interestingly, during all four animations, her eyes are open and she blinks, and she her mouth moved during the talking cycles.
** Rumor has it that the "Final Death" idea from ''Demon's Souls'' was to make a return in ''Dark Souls''. After the player character had died a certain number of times, they would have Hollowed and that particular save file would have been either locked or deleted.
** With the transfer of the PC version from Games For Windows Live to Steamworks, a fanmade debug executable for the game revealed a number of cut cutscenes, as shown by [[https://www.youtube.com/user/Sanadsk Youtube uploader Sanadsk]].
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* UrbanLegendOfZelda: Since the game's release there have been dozens of different rumors pertaining to the Furtive Pygmy and the true purpose of the Pendant.
** Another persistent rumor claimed that the player has the option to spare the Great Grey Wolf Sif and that you would get his sword as a reward for doing so. No proof or method has been found, but many still believe there is a way to accomplish this. It ''is'' possible to technically spare Sif, by using a certain glitch to transfer the Covenant of Artorias to a new character. You get no proper resolution for it, of course.

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* UrbanLegendOfZelda: UrbanLegendOfZelda:
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** Another A persistent rumor claimed that the player has the option to spare the Great Grey Wolf Sif and that you would get his sword as a reward for doing so. No proof or method has been found, but many still believe there is a way to accomplish this. It ''is'' possible to technically spare Sif, by using a certain glitch to transfer the Covenant of Artorias to a new character. You get no proper resolution for it, of course.course.
** [[WordOfGod Hidetaka Miyazaki]] suggested before the game released that the player should choose the Pendant as a starting gift or nothing at all. Many players believed this to be a hint that the Pendant had a secret hidden use, and a crusade began to find the truth about the item, but nothing was found. Rumors began circulating until [[TrollingCreator Miyazaki eventually broke and admitted that the Pendant has no use.]][[note]]Despite this, there is precisely ''one'' use for the pendant (although even then it's not a very good one)- [[spoiler:you can trade it to Snuggly the Crow for a Souvenir of Reprisal, used to advance in the Blade of the Darkmoon covenant]]. Not really a "use", but it's ''something.''[[/note]]
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** Sen's Fortress can be "Sen's Funhouse," or, as the result of a humorous typo, "Super Nintendo Fortress."

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** Sen's Fortress can be "Sen's Funhouse," or, as the result of a humorous typo, "Super Nintendo (Entertainment System / [[FunWithAcronyms SNES]]) Fortress."
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** The game's multiplayer elements are [[AWizardDidIt loosely justified]] by Solaire's explanation that in Lordran "The float of time itself is convoluted.", a line often abridged to "Time is convoluted."

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** The game's multiplayer elements are [[AWizardDidIt loosely justified]] by Solaire's explanation that in Lordran "The float flow of time itself is convoluted.", a line often abridged to "Time is convoluted."

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