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Creator/SidneyLumet directed a 1960 television production starring Creator/JasonRobards as Hickey, and a very young Creator/RobertRedford as Don. Creator/JohnFrankenheimer directed the 1973 film version starring Creator/LeeMarvin as Hickey, Creator/RobertRyan as Larry, Creator/FredricMarch as Harry Hope and Creator/JeffBridges as Don. [[Series/TheDukesOfHazzard Sorrell Booke]] and [[Film/TheTakingOfPelhamOneTwoThree Tom Pedi]] appeared in both adaptations as Hugo and Rocky, respectively.
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Creator/SidneyLumet directed a 1960 television production starring Creator/JasonRobards as Hickey, and a very young Creator/RobertRedford as Don. Creator/JohnFrankenheimer directed the 1973 film version starring Creator/LeeMarvin as Hickey, Creator/RobertRyan as Larry, Creator/FredricMarch as Harry Hope and Creator/JeffBridges as Don. [[Series/TheDukesOfHazzard Sorrell Booke]] Creator/SorrellBooke and [[Film/TheTakingOfPelhamOneTwoThree Tom Pedi]] appeared in both adaptations as Hugo and Rocky, respectively.
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*ObfuscatingDisability: Harry claims that he's crippled by severe arthritis on top of being very hard of hearing and near-sighted. While some or all of these may be true to some extent, they aren't nearly as debilitating as he likes to claim or pretend, but they're a convenient pretext for his laziness and life as a permanent shut-in at his bar.
-->'''Harry''': [pretending to be deaf] Eh - I can't hear. [defiantly] You're a liar! I've had rheumatism on and off for twenty years. Ever since Bessie died! Everyone knows that!
-->'''Hickey''': Yes, we know it's the kind of rheumatism you turn on and off. We're onto you, you old faker!
-->'''Harry''': [pretending to be deaf] Eh - I can't hear. [defiantly] You're a liar! I've had rheumatism on and off for twenty years. Ever since Bessie died! Everyone knows that!
-->'''Hickey''': Yes, we know it's the kind of rheumatism you turn on and off. We're onto you, you old faker!
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*YouAreWhatYouHate: Hickey and Don take in immediate dislike to one another, though Hickey recognizes that they're both hiding similar secrets, saying "We're in the same club, you and I" which Don denies. When it's later revealed that [[spoiler: Hickey murdered his wife]], Don admits that he's even more guilty for [[spoiler: informing on his mother's political activities and having her incarcerated]]. Hickey flies into a rage at the comparison, despite the fact that he was the one who had earlier pointed out the similarity in the first place:
-->'''Hickey''': (to Larry) I wish you'd get rid of that bastard! I can't have him pretend there's something in common between him and me! It's what's in your heart that counts. There was love in my heart, not hate.
-->'''Hickey''': (to Larry) I wish you'd get rid of that bastard! I can't have him pretend there's something in common between him and me! It's what's in your heart that counts. There was love in my heart, not hate.
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Twelve disciples (and a turncoat) listening to a charismatic leader preach as he dispenses drinks, [[spoiler: shortly before he's taken away by law enforcement.]] The difference is ''this'' charismatic leader is not very nice to begin with, he preaches a hopeless ideology instead of a righteous path, and he eventually admits that [[spoiler: he murdered his own wife because he got sick of her [[LoveMartyr unability to realize he was too far gone to even consider reciprocating her undying love for him]]]].
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Twelve disciples (and a turncoat) listening to a charismatic leader preach as he dispenses drinks, [[spoiler: shortly before he's taken away by law enforcement.]] The difference is ''this'' charismatic leader is not very nice to begin with, he preaches a hopeless ideology worldview instead of a righteous path, and he eventually admits that [[spoiler: he murdered his own wife because he got sick of her [[LoveMartyr unability inability to realize he was too far gone to even consider reciprocating her undying love for him]]]].
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* EnsembleCast: While Larry and Hickey are the most important characters with the most lines, nearly all of the other characters have side stories with lengthy monologues or dialogues.
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: A number of Hickey's comments about [[spoiler: his wife and allusions to death hint at his later reveal of having murdered her]].
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: A Two important examples:
**A number of Hickey's comments about [[spoiler: his wife and allusions to death hint at his later reveal of having murderedher]].her]].
**Don says and does several things that make it quite obvious that he's the one who [[spoiler: turned in his mother to the authorities]], such as becoming enraged when he hears the drunken Hugo talking nonsense about stool pigeons and traitors.
* ForYourOwnGood: Hickey deceives himself that he's convincing his friends to give up their lies about themselves and face reality for their own good. In reality, his motives are entirely selfish, the typical "misery loves company."
* TheFriendNobodyLikes: None of the bar regulars care much for Don and see his presence as an intrusion. Larry coldly tolerates him because of their past connection through Don's mother.
**A number of Hickey's comments about [[spoiler: his wife and allusions to death hint at his later reveal of having murdered
**Don says and does several things that make it quite obvious that he's the one who [[spoiler: turned in his mother to the authorities]], such as becoming enraged when he hears the drunken Hugo talking nonsense about stool pigeons and traitors.
* ForYourOwnGood: Hickey deceives himself that he's convincing his friends to give up their lies about themselves and face reality for their own good. In reality, his motives are entirely selfish, the typical "misery loves company."
* TheFriendNobodyLikes: None of the bar regulars care much for Don and see his presence as an intrusion. Larry coldly tolerates him because of their past connection through Don's mother.
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* EnsembleCast: While Larry and Hickey are the most important characters with the most lines, nearly all of the other characters have side stories with lengthy monologues or dialogues.
* Foreshadowing: Don says and does several things that make it quite obvious that he's the one who [[spoiler: turned in his mother to the authorities]], such as becoming enraged when he hears the drunken Hugo talking nonsense about stool pigeons and traitors.
* ForYourOwnGood: Hickey deceives himself that he's convincing his friends to give up their lies about themselves and face reality for their own good. In reality, his motives are entirely selfish, the typical "misery loves company."
* TheFriendNobodyLikes: None of the bar regulars care much for Don and see his presence as an intrusion. Larry coldly tolerates him because of their past connection through Don's mother.
* Foreshadowing: Don says and does several things that make it quite obvious that he's the one who [[spoiler: turned in his mother to the authorities]], such as becoming enraged when he hears the drunken Hugo talking nonsense about stool pigeons and traitors.
* ForYourOwnGood: Hickey deceives himself that he's convincing his friends to give up their lies about themselves and face reality for their own good. In reality, his motives are entirely selfish, the typical "misery loves company."
* TheFriendNobodyLikes: None of the bar regulars care much for Don and see his presence as an intrusion. Larry coldly tolerates him because of their past connection through Don's mother.
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Twelve disciples (and a turncoat) listening to a charismatic leader preach as he dispenses drinks, [[spoiler: shortly before he's taken away by law enforcement.]] The difference is ''this'' charismatic leader is not very nice to begin with, he preaches a hopeless ideology instead of a righteous path, and he eventually admits that [[spoiler: he murdered his own wife because he got sick of her [[LoveMartyr unable to realize he was too far gone to even consider reciprocating her undying love for him]]]].
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Twelve disciples (and a turncoat) listening to a charismatic leader preach as he dispenses drinks, [[spoiler: shortly before he's taken away by law enforcement.]] The difference is ''this'' charismatic leader is not very nice to begin with, he preaches a hopeless ideology instead of a righteous path, and he eventually admits that [[spoiler: he murdered his own wife because he got sick of her [[LoveMartyr unable unability to realize he was too far gone to even consider reciprocating her undying love for him]]]].
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*Foreshadowing: Don says and does several things that make it quite obvious that he's the one who [[spoiler: turned in his mother to the authorities]], such as becoming enraged when he hears the drunken Hugo talking nonsense about stool pigeons and traitors.
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Twelve disciples (and a turncoat) listening to a charismatic leader preach as he dispenses drinks, [[spoiler: shortly before he's taken away by law enforcement.]] The difference is ''this'' charismatic leader is not very nice to begin with, he preaches a hopeless ideology instead of a righteous path, and he eventually admits that [[spoiler: he murdered his own wife because she got sick of her [[LoveMartyr unable to realize he was too far gone to even consider reciprocating her undying love for him]]]].
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Twelve disciples (and a turncoat) listening to a charismatic leader preach as he dispenses drinks, [[spoiler: shortly before he's taken away by law enforcement.]] The difference is ''this'' charismatic leader is not very nice to begin with, he preaches a hopeless ideology instead of a righteous path, and he eventually admits that [[spoiler: he murdered his own wife because she he got sick of her [[LoveMartyr unable to realize he was too far gone to even consider reciprocating her undying love for him]]]].
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Twelve disciples (and a turncoat) listening to a charismatic leader preach the righteous path as he dispenses drinks, [[spoiler: shortly before he's taken away by law enforcement.]]
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Twelve disciples (and a turncoat) listening to a charismatic leader preach the righteous path as he dispenses drinks, [[spoiler: shortly before he's taken away by law enforcement.]] The difference is ''this'' charismatic leader is not very nice to begin with, he preaches a hopeless ideology instead of a righteous path, and he eventually admits that [[spoiler: he murdered his own wife because she got sick of her [[LoveMartyr unable to realize he was too far gone to even consider reciprocating her undying love for him]]]].
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* FiveTokenBand: A bar setting is among the most plausible ways to bring together characters from different backgrounds and walks of life who would otherwise not know or interact with each other, and this play is no exception. The main characters include two Boer war veterans who fought on opposing sides, two former anarcho-syndicalist political activists, an ex-cop, a former newspaper reporter, a Harvard-educated would-be lawyer, a former circus ringmaster, and a one time owner of a gambling casino (who also serves as the TokenBlack).
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* FiveTokenBand: A bar setting is among the most plausible ways to bring together characters from different backgrounds and walks of life who would otherwise not know or interact with each other, and this play is no exception. The main characters include two Boer war veterans who fought on opposing sides, two former anarcho-syndicalist political activists, an ex-cop, a former newspaper reporter, a Harvard-educated would-be lawyer, a former circus ringmaster, and a one time one-time owner of a gambling casino (who also serves as the TokenBlack).
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* {{Catchphrase}}: Several characters have pet phrases, e.g.
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* PassFail: Joe is described as a light-skinned black man with "only slightly negroid features", and it's implied that he tried to pass as white in the past or at least thought about it. After being egged on by Hickey, he lashes out with resentment at the other bar patrons to cover up his insecurity:
--->'''Joe'''(shouting): “Listen to me, you white boys! Don't you get it in your heads I's pretendin' to be what I ain't, or dat I ain't proud to be what I am!"
--->'''Joe'''(shouting): “Listen to me, you white boys! Don't you get it in your heads I's pretendin' to be what I ain't, or dat I ain't proud to be what I am!"
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* PassFail: Joe Mott is described as a light-skinned black man with "only slightly negroid features", and it's implied that he tried to pass as white in the past or at least thought about it. After being egged on by Hickey, he lashes out with resentment at the other bar patrons to cover up his insecurity:
--->'''Joe'''(shouting): -->'''Joe'''(shouting): “Listen to me, you white boys! Don't you get it in your heads I's pretendin' to be what I ain't, or dat I ain't proud to be what I am!"
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*PassFail: Joe is described as a light-skinned black man with "only slightly negroid features", and it's implied that he tried to pass as white in the past or at least thought about it. After being egged on by Hickey, he lashes out with resentment at the other bar patrons to cover up his insecurity:
--->'''Joe'''(shouting): “Listen to me, you white boys! Don't you get it in your heads I's pretendin' to be what I ain't, or dat I ain't proud to be what I am!"
--->'''Joe'''(shouting): “Listen to me, you white boys! Don't you get it in your heads I's pretendin' to be what I ain't, or dat I ain't proud to be what I am!"
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Creator/SidneyLumet directed a 1960 television production starring Creator/JasonRobards as Hickey, and a very young Creator/RobertRedford as Don. Creator/JohnFrankenheimer directed the 1973 film version starring Creator/LeeMarvin as Hickey, Creator/RobertRyan as Larry, Creator/FredericMarch as Harry Hope and Creator/JeffBridges as Don. [[Series/TheDukesOfHazzard Sorrell Booke]] and [[Film/TheTakingOfPelhamOneTwoThree Tom Pedi]] appeared in both adaptations as Hugo and Rocky, respectively.
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Creator/SidneyLumet directed a 1960 television production starring Creator/JasonRobards as Hickey, and a very young Creator/RobertRedford as Don. Creator/JohnFrankenheimer directed the 1973 film version starring Creator/LeeMarvin as Hickey, Creator/RobertRyan as Larry, Creator/FredericMarch Creator/FredricMarch as Harry Hope and Creator/JeffBridges as Don. [[Series/TheDukesOfHazzard Sorrell Booke]] and [[Film/TheTakingOfPelhamOneTwoThree Tom Pedi]] appeared in both adaptations as Hugo and Rocky, respectively.
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* ButNotTooBlack: Joe Mott, former owner of a casino catering to black patrons, is described as being light-skinned and having "only slightly negroid features".
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* {{Catchphrase}}: Hugo's refrain of "The days grow hot, O Babylon, 'tis cool beneath thy willow trees", which he shouts automatically whenever he awakens from his drunken stupor.
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* {{Catchphrase}}: Hugo's Several characters have pet phrases, e.g.
**Hugo's refrain of "The days grow hot, O Babylon, 'tis cool beneath thy willow trees", which he shouts automatically whenever he awakens from his drunken stupor.
**Hugo's refrain of "The days grow hot, O Babylon, 'tis cool beneath thy willow trees", which he shouts automatically whenever he awakens from his drunken stupor.
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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Most of the bar regulars are egged on by Hickey to sober up, step out of the bar, and pursue their "pipe dreams"- i.e. trying to get their old jobs back or otherwise getting their broken lives back on track. In Harry's case, it just means having the courage to step out of his bar and flat and see the outside world again for the first time in twenty years. By the end of the evening, each man returns to the bar even more despairing and broken than when he left it, as it becomes obvious to them that they're in no shape to live anything resembling a normal life again.
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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Most of the bar regulars are egged on by Hickey to sober up, step out of the bar, and pursue their "pipe dreams"- i.e. trying to get their old jobs back or otherwise getting their broken lives back on track. In Harry's case, it just means having the courage to step out of his bar and flat and see the outside world again for the first time in twenty years. By the end of the evening, each man returns to the bar even more despairing and broken than when he left it, as it becomes obvious they finally admit to them that themselves they're in no shape to ever live anything resembling a normal life again.
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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Most of the bar regulars are egged on by Hickey to sober up, step out of the bar, and pursue their "pipe dreams." For most of them it means trying to get their old jobs back or otherwise getting their broken lives back on track. In Harry's case, it just means having the courage to step out of his bar and flat and see the outside world again for the first time in twenty years. By the end of the evening, each man returns to the bar even more despairing and broken than when he left it, as it becomes obvious to them that they're in no shape to live anything resembling a normal life again.
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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Most of the bar regulars are egged on by Hickey to sober up, step out of the bar, and pursue their "pipe dreams." For most of them it means dreams"- i.e. trying to get their old jobs back or otherwise getting their broken lives back on track. In Harry's case, it just means having the courage to step out of his bar and flat and see the outside world again for the first time in twenty years. By the end of the evening, each man returns to the bar even more despairing and broken than when he left it, as it becomes obvious to them that they're in no shape to live anything resembling a normal life again.
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* CloudCuckooLander: Hugo awakens from his drunken stupor to shout anarchist slogans and other strange non-sequiturs.
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* CloudCuckooLander: Hugo Most of the characters due to their drunkenness and self-delusion, with the stand-outs being:
**Hugo awakens from his drunken stupor to shout anarchist slogans and other strange non-sequiturs.
**Hugo awakens from his drunken stupor to shout anarchist slogans and other strange non-sequiturs.
