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* TheBeard: Subverted. After allegations by a disgruntled student, the entire town thinks Karen and Martha are a lesbian couple using Karen's fiance as a beard. Karen having repeatedly turned down his wedding plans spurs the rumors. This, however, is completely false. Karen ''does'' love Joe. However, [[spoiler:even he has his doubts and ends up walking out on her]]. This is the last straw that spurs [[spoiler:Martha into her AnguishedDeclarationOfLove to Karen and her subsequent [[DrivenToSuicide suicide]].]]



** [[spoiler:Martha, after realizing she was indeed in love with Karen.]]

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** [[spoiler:Martha, [[spoiler:Martha]], after realizing she was indeed in love with Karen.[[spoiler:Karen.]]



* GetOut: Mrs. Tilford yells this at Karen and Martha when the two come to confront her.




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* BittersweetEnding: The movie ends on a lighter note compared to the play as [[spoiler: Martha lives and Karen and Joe reunite but the reputation of their school remains ruined]].

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* BittersweetEnding: The movie ends on a lighter note compared to the play as [[spoiler: Martha lives and Karen and Joe reunite reunite]], but the reputation of their school remains ruined]].ruined.




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* GetOut: Mrs. Tilford yells this at Karen and Martha when the two come to confront her.


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* CallingParentsByTheirName: Joe refers to his grandmother by name. He's not particularly fond of her.



* PeriodPiece: The play and its two film adaptations are contemporary, however revivals are strictly period pieces because the plot doesn't work in modern settings.



* AdaptationExpansion: There's padding in the beginning about how the school came to be and how the women met Joe.



* {{Bowdlerise}}: The film completely changes what happens in the play (replacing the rumors of a lesbian love affair with one about the two women dating the same man). The second film includes a little of this too, though more for simplification reasons instead of censorship.

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* {{Bowdlerise}}: The film completely changes what happens in the play (replacing the rumors of a lesbian love affair with one about the two women dating the same man). The second film includes a little of this too, though more for simplification reasons instead of censorship.



* SparedByTheAdaptation: [[spoiler:Martha]].

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* SecondActBreakup: [[spoiler:Joe and Karen]] break up because [[spoiler:Karen]] doubts their love. In the end they're reunited.
* SparedByTheAdaptation: [[spoiler:Martha]].
[[spoiler:Martha]] just disappears from the story without resolution.



* AdaptationDistillation: This adaption still isn't completely true to the play but is still mostly so.

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* AdaptationDistillation: This adaption still isn't completely true to the play but it is still mostly so.



** Though there's still clear {{foreshadowing}} that [[spoiler:Martha]] is a lesbian, several scenes were cut due to fear that the movie wouldn't get through the UsefulNotes/TheHaysCode.

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** Though there's still clear {{foreshadowing}} that [[spoiler:Martha]] is a lesbian, several scenes were cut due to fear that the movie wouldn't get through the UsefulNotes/TheHaysCode. Lines were also removed, such as Mary saying she saw Martha and Karen kissing and that her DisappearedDad killed himself.

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* DrivenToSuicide: [[spoiler:Martha, after realizing she was indeed in love with Karen.]]

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* DrivenToSuicide: DrivenToSuicide:
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[[spoiler:Martha, after realizing she was indeed in love with Karen.]]]]
** In the play, Mary mentions that her father killed himself but her grandmother, his mother, won't admit it.


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* TheShowMustGoOn: Lily mentions how she once saved one of her acting buddies who had a heart-attack on stage. She also mentions her friend ''didn't miss a line'' even during the heart attack.
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* ChildrenAreInnocent: Despite being a troublemaker, Mary still plays true to this trope. The twist of the play is that Mary didn't ruin [[spoiler:Martha]]'s life by telling a lie, but in her childish innocence she saw the truth behind [[spoiler:Martha]] living a lie.
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The original production ran from 1934-1936. In 1934 and 1936 the play was blocked from being played in both Boston and Chicago due to its content. A {{revival}}, directed by Lillian Hellman herself, played from December 1952-May 1953 in the Coronet Theatre. Two other revivals have existed since, a 2008 one in Manchester and a 2011 one in London. In 1971 the BBC produced a radio adaptation of the play for its ''Saturday Night Theatre'' series.

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The original production ran from 1934-1936. In 1934 and 1936 the play was blocked from being played in both Boston and Chicago due to its content. A {{revival}}, directed by Lillian Hellman herself, played from December 1952-May 1953 in the Coronet Theatre. Two other revivals have existed since, since: a 2008 one in Manchester and a 2011 one in London. In 1971 the BBC produced a radio adaptation of the play for its ''Saturday Night Theatre'' series.

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* BuryYourGays: [[spoiler:Martha]], upon realization of her deviating sexual orientation, hangs herself as she [[DrivenToSuicide couldn't live with the truth of it]].


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* GayngstInducedSuicide: [[spoiler:Martha]], upon realization of her deviating sexual orientation, hangs herself as she [[DrivenToSuicide couldn't live with the truth of it]].
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* AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame: The movie is most well-known for the last twenty minutes [[spoiler:where Martha has an AnguishedDeclarationOfLove before killing herself]].
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[[caption-width-right:300:Karen (Merle Oberon) and Martha (Miriam Hopkins) in ''These Three'']]

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[[caption-width-right:300:Karen (Merle Oberon) (Creator/MerleOberon) and Martha (Miriam Hopkins) (Creator/MiriamHopkins) in ''These Three'']]



A classic ([[ValuesDissonance and, at the time, very much controversial]]) 1934 play that was the debut work of Creator/LillianHellman, ''The Children's Hour'' was adapted for the screen twice by director William Wyler. The first version was a bowdlerized adaptation called ''These Three'', starring Miriam Hopkins and Merle Oberon, and released in 1936. The second version, starring Creator/ShirleyMacLaine and Creator/AudreyHepburn, was subject to less censorship by the time it came out in 1961.

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A classic ([[ValuesDissonance and, at the time, very much controversial]]) 1934 play that was the debut work of Creator/LillianHellman, ''The Children's Hour'' was adapted for the screen twice by director William Wyler. The first version was a bowdlerized adaptation called ''These Three'', starring Miriam Hopkins Creator/MiriamHopkins and Merle Oberon, Creator/MerleOberon, and released in 1936. The second version, starring Creator/ShirleyMacLaine and Creator/AudreyHepburn, was subject to less censorship by the time it came out in 1961.

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* ClosetKey: Possibly in denial, or confused, about her feelings for several years, it takes a child's MaliciousSlander to make Martha realize that she's gay. It doesn't help her stress and only makes her feel more guilty and terrible.

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* ClosetKey: Possibly in denial, or confused, about her feelings for several years, it takes a child's MaliciousSlander to make Martha [[spoiler:Martha]] realize that she's gay. It doesn't help her stress and only makes her feel more guilty and terrible.



* AmbiguousEnding: The film ends with [[spoiler:Karen walking away after Martha's funeral, while the others watch her.]] ''What'' exactly does the scene imply is up to interpretation.

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* AmbiguousEnding: The film ends with [[spoiler:Karen walking away after Martha's funeral, while the others watch her.her from a distance.]] ''What'' exactly does the scene imply is up to interpretation.interpretation.
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** Though there's still clear {{foreshadowing}} that [[spoiler:Martha]] is a lesbian, several scenes were cut due to fear that the movie wouldn't get through the UsefulNotes/TheHaysCode.
** [[spoiler:Martha]]'s [[DrivenToSuicide suicide]] by gun was changed to a slightly less graphic suicide by hanging. This also allowed them to use a shadow of her body to portray the death.



* TimeSkip: Instead of showing us the CourtroomDrama where the critical suit for slander was tried, the movie skips a few weeks ahead where we learn that the case was lost because of Martha's aunt not appearing in court.

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* TimeSkip: Instead of showing us the CourtroomDrama where the critical suit for slander was tried, the movie skips a few weeks ahead where we learn that the case was lost because of Martha's aunt not appearing in court. The court scene was apparently shot (as screencaps exist) however it was removed from the final film for whatever reason.
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A classic (and, at the time, very much controversial) 1934 play that was the debut work of Creator/LillianHellman, ''The Children's Hour'' was adapted for the screen twice by director William Wyler. The first version was a bowdlerized adaptation called ''These Three'', starring Miriam Hopkins and Merle Oberon, and released in 1936. The second version, starring Creator/ShirleyMacLaine and Creator/AudreyHepburn, was subject to less censorship by the time it came out in 1961.

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A classic (and, ([[ValuesDissonance and, at the time, very much controversial) controversial]]) 1934 play that was the debut work of Creator/LillianHellman, ''The Children's Hour'' was adapted for the screen twice by director William Wyler. The first version was a bowdlerized adaptation called ''These Three'', starring Miriam Hopkins and Merle Oberon, and released in 1936. The second version, starring Creator/ShirleyMacLaine and Creator/AudreyHepburn, was subject to less censorship by the time it came out in 1961.

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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler:Mary's lie is exposed]], but [[spoiler:Martha is dead]], the school is closed, and [[spoiler:Karen and Joe have broken up.]]


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* BittersweetEnding: The movie ends on a lighter note compared to the play as [[spoiler: Martha lives and Karen and Joe reunite but the reputation of their school remains ruined]].
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* BuryYourGays: [[spoiler:Martha]], upon realization of her deviating sexual orientation, hangs herself as she couldn't live with the truth of it.

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* BuryYourGays: [[spoiler:Martha]], upon realization of her deviating sexual orientation, hangs herself as she [[DrivenToSuicide couldn't live with the truth of it.it]].


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* LiteraryAllusionTitle: The work gets its name from a poem by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow.


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* GetOut: Mrs. Tilford yells this at Karen and Martha when the two come to confront her.


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* SecondActBreakup: Surprisingly subverted. After the TimeSkip of the second act Karen sends Joe away but they don't reunite in the third act.
* TimeSkip: Instead of showing us the CourtroomDrama where the critical suit for slander was tried, the movie skips a few weeks ahead where we learn that the case was lost because of Martha's aunt not appearing in court.

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* BuryYourGays: [[spoiler:Martha.]]

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* BuryYourGays: [[spoiler:Martha.]][[spoiler:Martha]], upon realization of her deviating sexual orientation, hangs herself as she couldn't live with the truth of it.
* CallingTheOldManOut: Martha does this to her aunt who raised her. She was too busy pursuing her acting career to testify in her and her friend's court trial, which caused them to lose it and essentially ruined their lives, but despite this she came crawling back to them pretending she will be there for them now.
* ClosetKey: Possibly in denial, or confused, about her feelings for several years, it takes a child's MaliciousSlander to make Martha realize that she's gay. It doesn't help her stress and only makes her feel more guilty and terrible.
* ConsummateLiar: Mary lies frequently has has no qualms about it.
* DownerEnding: Martha's and Karen's reputations are forever ruined by a rumor a child started, neither can be teachers again, and they're a well-known court case throughout America. Karen's fiance dumps her, Martha has unrequited feelings toward Karen, and to top it all off she kills herself at the end; in the play though she kills herself before Mary's grandmother comes over.
* DramaQueen: Mary. She's constantly overreacting and cries over everything.



* InspiredBy: The play was inspired by an actual Scottish court case.

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* HaveAGayOldTime: Martha's aunt refers to her single night theatrical performances as "one night stands".
* InspiredBy: The play was inspired by an actual Scottish court case.case from Edinburgh, Scotland in 1810.[[note]]A pupil named Jane Cumming accused her schoolmistresses, Jane Pirie and Marianne Woods, of having an affair. Dame Cumming Gordon, the accuser's influential grandmother, advised her friends to remove their daughters from the boarding school. Within days the school was deserted and the two women had lost their livelihood. Pirie and Woods sued and eventually won, both in court and on appeal, but given the damage done to their lives, their victory was considered hollow.[[/note]]



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* AdaptationDistillation: The second adaption still isn't completely true to the play but is still mostly so.
* AdaptationalSexuality: [[spoiler:Martha]] is straight instead of gay in ''These Three'' due to censoring of the plot.

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!!The 1936 movie adaptations adaptation add examples of:

* AdaptationalSexuality: [[spoiler:Martha]] is straight instead of gay due to censoring of the plot.
* {{Bowdlerise}}: The film completely changes what happens in the play (replacing the rumors of a lesbian love affair with one about the two women dating the same man). The second film includes a little of this too, though more for simplification reasons instead of censorship.
* PromotedToLoveInterest: Joe to Martha. [[spoiler:It is unrequited.]]
* SparedByTheAdaptation: [[spoiler:Martha]].

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* AdaptationDistillation: The second This adaption still isn't completely true to the play but is still mostly so.
* AdaptationalSexuality: [[spoiler:Martha]] is straight instead of gay in ''These Three'' due to censoring of the plot.
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* AmbiguousEnding: ''The Children's Hour'' ends with [[spoiler:Karen walking away after Martha's funeral, while the others watch her.]] ''What'' exactly does the scene imply is up to interpretation.
* {{Bowdlerise}}: The first film is this to the play, completely changing what happens in it (the first film replaced the rumors of a lesbian love affair with one about the two women dating the same man). The second film includes a little of this too, though more for simplification reasons instead of censorship.
* MarketBasedTitle: The film version of ''The Children's Hour'' is called ''The Loudest Whisper'' in the UK.
* PromotedToLoveInterest: Joe to Martha in ''These Three''. [[spoiler:It is unrequited.]]
* RemakeCameo: Miriam Hopkins played Lily Mortar in the 1961 film, after having played her niece Martha in the 1936 version.
* SettingUpdate: The second movie came out in TheSixties but the play is from TheThirties and is based on real-life events from the 19th century.
* SparedByTheAdaptation: [[spoiler:Martha]] in ''These Three''.

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* AmbiguousEnding: ''The Children's Hour'' The film ends with [[spoiler:Karen walking away after Martha's funeral, while the others watch her.]] ''What'' exactly does the scene imply is up to interpretation.
* {{Bowdlerise}}: The first film is this to the play, completely changing what happens in it (the first film replaced the rumors of a lesbian love affair with one about the two women dating the same man). The second film includes a little of this too, though more for simplification reasons instead of censorship.
* MarketBasedTitle: The film version of ''The Children's Hour'' is called ''The Loudest Whisper'' in the UK.
* PromotedToLoveInterest: Joe to Martha in ''These Three''. [[spoiler:It is unrequited.]]
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RemakeCameo: Miriam Hopkins played Lily Mortar in the 1961 film, Mortar, after having played her niece Martha in the 1936 version.
* SettingUpdate: The second movie adaptation came out in TheSixties but the play is from TheThirties and is based on real-life events from the 19th century.
* SparedByTheAdaptation: [[spoiler:Martha]] in ''These Three''.
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The original production ran from 1934-1936. In 1934 and 1936 the play was blocked from being played in both Boston and Chicago due to its content. A {{revival}}, directed by Lillian Hellman herself, played from December 1952-May 1953 in the Coronet Theatre. Two other revivals have existed since, a 2008 one in Manchester and a 2011 one in London. In 1971 the BBC produced a radio adaptation of the play for its ''Saturday Night Theatre'' series.
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* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: [[spoiler:Mrs. Tilford]], once she realizes [[spoiler:her granddaughter's scheming.]] [[spoiler:Karen]] however, tells her she's too late to apologize.]]

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* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: [[spoiler:Mrs. Tilford]], once she realizes [[spoiler:her granddaughter's scheming.]] [[spoiler:Karen]] however, tells her she's too late to apologize.]]
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A classic (and, at the time, very much controversial) 1934 play that was the debut work of Lillian Hellman, ''The Children's Hour'' was adapted for the screen twice by director William Wyler. The first version was a bowdlerized adaptation called ''These Three'', starring Miriam Hopkins and Merle Oberon, and released in 1936. The second version, starring Creator/ShirleyMacLaine and Creator/AudreyHepburn, was subject to less censorship by the time it came out in 1961.

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A classic (and, at the time, very much controversial) 1934 play that was the debut work of Lillian Hellman, Creator/LillianHellman, ''The Children's Hour'' was adapted for the screen twice by director William Wyler. The first version was a bowdlerized adaptation called ''These Three'', starring Miriam Hopkins and Merle Oberon, and released in 1936. The second version, starring Creator/ShirleyMacLaine and Creator/AudreyHepburn, was subject to less censorship by the time it came out in 1961.

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* AdaptationalContextChange:
** ''These Three'' switched around a large number of Joe's and Karen's dialogue to make the film about a heterosexual love triangle.
** ''The Childrens Hour'' changed [[spoiler:Mary's grandmother apologizing to Karen]] to happen ''before'' [[spoiler:Martha's death]]
* AdaptationDistillation: The second adaption still isn't completely true to the play, and lacks the "power" driven plot of said play, but is still the closest to it.

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* AdaptationalContextChange:
** ''These Three'' switched around a large number of Joe's and Karen's dialogue to make the film about a heterosexual love triangle.
** ''The Childrens Hour'' changed [[spoiler:Mary's grandmother apologizing to Karen]] to happen ''before'' [[spoiler:Martha's death]]
* AdaptationDistillation: The second adaption still isn't completely true to the play, and lacks the "power" driven plot of said play, play but is still the closest to it. mostly so.



* AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame: The movie is most well-known for the ending.

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* AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame: The movie is most well-known for the ending.last twenty minutes [[spoiler:where Martha has an AnguishedDeclarationOfLove before killing herself]].
* AmbiguousEnding: ''The Children's Hour'' ends with [[spoiler:Karen walking away after Martha's funeral, while the others watch her.]] ''What'' exactly does the scene imply is up to interpretation.



* MarketBasedTitle: The film versions, at least, were called ''The Loudest Whisper'' in the UK.

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* MarketBasedTitle: The film versions, at least, were version of ''The Children's Hour'' is called ''The Loudest Whisper'' in the UK.

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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler:Mary's lie is exposed, but Martha is dead, the school is closed, and Karen and Joe break up.]]

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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler:Mary's lie is exposed, exposed]], but Martha [[spoiler:Martha is dead, dead]], the school is closed, and Karen [[spoiler:Karen and Joe break have broken up.]]



* EnfanteTerrible: Mary Tilford.

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* EnfanteTerrible: Mary Tilford.Tilford is bratty, spoiled, and frequently lies. She kept on trying to lie even after ruining her teachers reputations and leaving them jobless.



* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: [[spoiler:Mrs. Tilford, once she realizes her granddaughter's scheming. Karen, however, tells her she's too late to apologize.]]
* OneGenderSchool

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* MistakenForCheating: The plot deals with rumors that Karen is having an affair with Martha. Karen is engaged to Joe.
* MistakenForGay: Karen and Martha are accused of being romantically involved but insist it isn't true. [[spoiler:In Martha's case she actually ''was'' in love with Karen but confused about her feelings. Karen is [[AmbiguouslyBi more ambiguous]].]]
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: [[spoiler:Mrs. Tilford, Tilford]], once she realizes her [[spoiler:her granddaughter's scheming. Karen, scheming.]] [[spoiler:Karen]] however, tells her she's too late to apologize.]]
* OneGenderSchoolOneGenderSchool: Karen and Martha own a small all-girls school.




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* TwoTeacherSchool: Quite literally, Karen and Martha are the only teachers at their school.


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* AdaptationalContextChange:
** ''These Three'' switched around a large number of Joe's and Karen's dialogue to make the film about a heterosexual love triangle.
** ''The Childrens Hour'' changed [[spoiler:Mary's grandmother apologizing to Karen]] to happen ''before'' [[spoiler:Martha's death]]


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* AdaptationalSexuality: [[spoiler:Martha]] is straight instead of gay in ''These Three'' due to censoring of the plot.


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* PromotedToLoveInterest: Joe to Martha in ''These Three''. [[spoiler:It is unrequited.]]

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->'''Mrs. Lily Mortar''': God will punish you.
->'''Martha''': He's doing all right.

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A classic (and, at the time, very much controversial) 1934 play that was the debut work of Lillian Hellman, '''''The Children's Hour''''' was adapted for the screen twice by director William Wyler. The first version was a bowdlerized adaptation called ''These Three,'' starring Miriam Hopkins and Merle Oberon, and released in 1936. The second version, starring Creator/ShirleyMacLaine and Creator/AudreyHepburn, was subject to less censorship by the time it came out in 1961.

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A classic (and, at the time, very much controversial) 1934 play that was the debut work of Lillian Hellman, '''''The ''The Children's Hour''''' Hour'' was adapted for the screen twice by director William Wyler. The first version was a bowdlerized adaptation called ''These Three,'' Three'', starring Miriam Hopkins and Merle Oberon, and released in 1936. The second version, starring Creator/ShirleyMacLaine and Creator/AudreyHepburn, was subject to less censorship by the time it came out in 1961.



* EnfanteTerrible: '''Mary Tilford.'''

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* EnfanteTerrible: '''Mary Mary Tilford.'''



-->'''[[spoiler: Martha:]]''' Don't you see? I can't stand to have you touch me! I can't stand to have you look at me! Oh, it's all my fault. I have ruined your life and I have ruined my own. I swear I didn't know it! I didn't mean it! Oh, I feel so damn sick and dirty I can't stand it anymore!

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-->'''[[spoiler: Martha:]]''' -->'''[[spoiler:Martha]]''': Don't you see? I can't stand to have you touch me! I can't stand to have you look at me! Oh, it's all my fault. I have ruined your life and I have ruined my own. I swear I didn't know it! I didn't mean it! Oh, I feel so damn sick and dirty I can't stand it anymore! anymore!



* IronicName: Mary is a bratty little girl who irreversibly ruined two womens lives.

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* IronicName: Mary is a bratty little girl who irreversibly ruined two womens women's lives.



* TriangRelations: A type four, with Joe as C, Karen as B, and Martha as a platonic A. [[spoiler:...as it later turns out, not so platonic after all.]]

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* TriangRelations: A type four, with Joe as C, and Karen as B, and are in a relationship, with Martha as attracted to Karen in a platonic A.way. [[spoiler:...as it later turns out, not so platonic after all.]]



* HeyItsThatGuy: Bonita Granville, the first actress to play NancyDrew on screen, was Mary Tilford in ''These Three.''



* SparedByTheAdaptation: [[spoiler:Martha]] in ''These Three.''

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* SparedByTheAdaptation: [[spoiler:Martha]] in ''These Three.''Three''.

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!!This work features examples of:

* AdaptationDistillation: The second adaption still isn't completely true to the play, and lacks the "power" driven plot of said play, but is still the closest to it.
* AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame: The movie is most well-known for the ending.

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!!This work features !!The play provides examples of:

* AdaptationDistillation: The second adaption still isn't completely true to the play, and lacks the "power" driven plot of said play, but is still the closest to it.
* AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame: The movie is most well-known for the ending.
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* {{Bowdlerise}}: The first film is this to the play, completely changing what happens in it (the first film replaced the rumors of a lesbian love affair with one about the two women dating the same man). The second film includes a little of this too, though more for simplification reasons instead of censorship.



* HeyItsThatGuy: Bonita Granville, the first actress to play NancyDrew on screen, was Mary Tilford in ''These Three.''



* MarketBasedTitle: The film versions, at least, were called ''The Loudest Whisper'' in the UK.



* RemakeCameo: Miriam Hopkins played Lily Mortar in the 1961 film, after having played her niece Martha in the 1936 version.
* SettingUpdate: The second movie came out in TheSixties but the play is from TheThirties and is based on real-life events from the 19th century.
* SparedByTheAdaptation: [[spoiler:Martha]] in ''These Three.''


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!!The movie adaptations add examples of:

* AdaptationDistillation: The second adaption still isn't completely true to the play, and lacks the "power" driven plot of said play, but is still the closest to it.
* AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame: The movie is most well-known for the ending.
* {{Bowdlerise}}: The first film is this to the play, completely changing what happens in it (the first film replaced the rumors of a lesbian love affair with one about the two women dating the same man). The second film includes a little of this too, though more for simplification reasons instead of censorship.
* HeyItsThatGuy: Bonita Granville, the first actress to play NancyDrew on screen, was Mary Tilford in ''These Three.''
* MarketBasedTitle: The film versions, at least, were called ''The Loudest Whisper'' in the UK.
* RemakeCameo: Miriam Hopkins played Lily Mortar in the 1961 film, after having played her niece Martha in the 1936 version.
* SettingUpdate: The second movie came out in TheSixties but the play is from TheThirties and is based on real-life events from the 19th century.
* SparedByTheAdaptation: [[spoiler:Martha]] in ''These Three.''

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* SparedByTheAdaptation: Martha in ''These Three.''

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* SettingUpdate: The second movie came out in TheSixties but the play is from TheThirties and is based on real-life events from the 19th century.
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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler:Mary's lie is exposed, but Martha is dead, the school is closed and Karen and Joe break up.]]

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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler:Mary's lie is exposed, but Martha is dead, the school is closed closed, and Karen and Joe break up.]]



* {{Bowdlerise}}: The first film is this to the play, completely changing what happens in it (the first film replaced the rumors of a lesbian love affair with one about the two women dating the same man). The second film includes a little of this too, though for simplification reasons.

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* {{Bowdlerise}}: The first film is this to the play, completely changing what happens in it (the first film replaced the rumors of a lesbian love affair with one about the two women dating the same man). The second film includes a little of this too, though more for simplification reasons. reasons instead of censorship.



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* MaliciousSlanderMaliciousSlander: Mary spreads rumors that her teachers are having an affair.
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* IronicName: Mary is a bratty little girl who irreversibly ruined two womens lives.
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* SparedByTheAdaptation: Martha in ''These Three.''
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A classic (and, at the time, very much controversial) 1934 play that was the debut work of Lillian Hellman, '''''The Children's Hour''''' was adapted for the screen twice by director William Wyler. The first version was a bowdlerized adaptation called ''These Three,'' starring Miriam Hopkins and Merle Oberon, and released in 1936. The second version, starring {{Shirley MacLaine}} and Creator/AudreyHepburn, was subject to less censorship by the time it came out in 1961.

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A classic (and, at the time, very much controversial) 1934 play that was the debut work of Lillian Hellman, '''''The Children's Hour''''' was adapted for the screen twice by director William Wyler. The first version was a bowdlerized adaptation called ''These Three,'' starring Miriam Hopkins and Merle Oberon, and released in 1936. The second version, starring {{Shirley MacLaine}} Creator/ShirleyMacLaine and Creator/AudreyHepburn, was subject to less censorship by the time it came out in 1961.
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* TriangRelations: A type four, with Joe as C, Karen as B, and Martha as a platonic A. [[spoiler:...as it later turns out, not so platonic after all.]]
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A classic (and, at the time, very much controversial) 1934 play that was the debut work of Lillian Hellman, '''''The Children's Hour''''' was adapted for the screen twice by director William Wyler. The first version was a bowdlerized adaptation called ''These Three,'' starring Miriam Hopkins and Merle Oberon, and released in 1936. The second version, starring {{Shirley MacLaine}} and AudreyHepburn, was subject to less censorship by the time it came out in 1961.

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A classic (and, at the time, very much controversial) 1934 play that was the debut work of Lillian Hellman, '''''The Children's Hour''''' was adapted for the screen twice by director William Wyler. The first version was a bowdlerized adaptation called ''These Three,'' starring Miriam Hopkins and Merle Oberon, and released in 1936. The second version, starring {{Shirley MacLaine}} and AudreyHepburn, Creator/AudreyHepburn, was subject to less censorship by the time it came out in 1961.
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->'''Mrs. Lily Mortar''': God will punish you.
->'''Martha''': He's doing all right.

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[[caption-width-right:300:Karen (Merle Oberon) and Martha (Miriam Hopkins) in ''These Three'']]

A classic (and, at the time, very much controversial) 1934 play that was the debut work of Lillian Hellman, '''''The Children's Hour''''' was adapted for the screen twice by director William Wyler. The first version was a bowdlerized adaptation called ''These Three,'' starring Miriam Hopkins and Merle Oberon, and released in 1936. The second version, starring {{Shirley MacLaine}} and AudreyHepburn, was subject to less censorship by the time it came out in 1961.

The story of the play concerns Karen Wright and Martha Dobie, best friends who are also headmistresses of a private girl's school in [[HollywoodNewEngland New England]]. Martha's ex-actress and narcissist aunt Mrs. Lily Mortar acts as an elocution and vocal teacher at the school, though she spends most of her time lecturing, showing off, and telling stories about the golden days. They couldn't be happier, especially with Karen about to wed her longtime gynecologist boyfriend, Joe.

One day, however, the school's resident bad seed, Mary Tilford, decides to extract revenge on Karen by spreading gossip that Karen and Martha are involved in a love affair. Her grandmother, the town matriarch, leads the charge against the two, resulting in nearly all students getting pulled from school. Karen and Martha sue the Tilfords for libel; yet, even if they win, they really won't be "victorious."

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!!This work features examples of:

* AdaptationDistillation: The second adaption still isn't completely true to the play, and lacks the "power" driven plot of said play, but is still the closest to it.
* AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame: The movie is most well-known for the ending.
* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler:Mary's lie is exposed, but Martha is dead, the school is closed and Karen and Joe break up.]]
* {{Blackmail}}: Mary uses this to turn fellow student Rosalie into her collaborator.
* {{Bowdlerise}}: The first film is this to the play, completely changing what happens in it (the first film replaced the rumors of a lesbian love affair with one about the two women dating the same man). The second film includes a little of this too, though for simplification reasons.
* BuryYourGays: [[spoiler:Martha.]]
* DrivenToSuicide: [[spoiler:Martha, after realizing she was indeed in love with Karen.]]
* EnfanteTerrible: '''Mary Tilford.'''
* {{Gayngst}}: [[spoiler: Martha]] has her fair share, near the end.
-->'''[[spoiler: Martha:]]''' Don't you see? I can't stand to have you touch me! I can't stand to have you look at me! Oh, it's all my fault. I have ruined your life and I have ruined my own. I swear I didn't know it! I didn't mean it! Oh, I feel so damn sick and dirty I can't stand it anymore!
* HeyItsThatGuy: Bonita Granville, the first actress to play NancyDrew on screen, was Mary Tilford in ''These Three.''
* InspiredBy: The play was inspired by an actual Scottish court case.
* MaliciousSlander
* MarketBasedTitle: The film versions, at least, were called ''The Loudest Whisper'' in the UK.
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: [[spoiler:Mrs. Tilford, once she realizes her granddaughter's scheming. Karen, however, tells her she's too late to apologize.]]
* OneGenderSchool
* PullTheThread: Mary's scheme is only uncovered when [[spoiler:Rosalie's mother finds a cache of stolen items in Mary's possession.]]
* RemakeCameo: Miriam Hopkins played Lily Mortar in the 1961 film, after having played her niece Martha in the 1936 version.
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