History TheScrappy / MarvelUniverse

** During the Busiek/Perez run, new character Triathlon wasn't held in very high esteem among the fandom. Some of this was due to being a member of a ChurchOfHappyology, some of this was due to his being foisted on the team by politics, but mostly due to his acting like a JerkAss to the established characters people actually like. After he left the group, any enmity against him was largely forgotten -- until he mercilessly killed [[DefectorFromDecadence Crusader]] at the end of ''ComicBook/SecretInvasion2008''. He's since reappeared in ''ComicBook/Avengers2023'' as an agent of the anti-mutant terrorist group Orchis, apparently as their "Avengers expert." His dialog makes it clear he's mad about all the flack he received for killing Crusader, and ''still'' refuses to feel any guilt for it.

** Carlie Cooper's portrayal resulted in a massive backlash from fans.[[note]]Creator/JoeQuesada, the mastermind behind ''ComicBook/OneMoreDay'', had originally intended to resurrect Gwen Stacy during the event, but as her death was too important to Spider-Man, he was turned down and conceived Carlie, named after his daughter, instead.[[/note]] Originally it was more along the lines of ReplacementScrappy for ComicBook/{{M|aryJaneWatson}}J, but it escalated when everyone, from past girlfriends to best friends, kept telling Peter how 'right' she was for him because she's his 'intellectual equal'. It was REALLY not helped by the fact she would get mad at Peter for the stupidest things, was pushed as a Woobie because her hero cop dad supposedly died only to be revealed he wasn't a hero and wasn't dead, act like a hypocrite, amongst other problems. She's also received ire for having similar characteristics as four of Peter's past love interests: troubles with father (MJ), NerdsAreSexy and attempted Adorkable (Deb Whitman), loves Peter for him (MJ, and an invert of ComicBook/BlackCat), is old friends with Harry Osborn, a tsundere. You could make the case that the writers are trying to evoke Gwen Stacy in her character, but in the end comes off as a lot like ComicBook/LanaLang in ''Series/{{Smallville}}''. In the aftermath of ''ComicBook/SpiderIsland'', she was demoted to a supporting cast member without romantic interest in Peter. However, in ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'', the hatred for her increased tenfold, with Carlie somehow being the only one who investigated why Peter was acting massively out of character. She discovers what happened by doing what can be considered the barest minimum of detective work. Again, fans were not amused at Carlie getting such an easy win, and rejoiced when she was Goblin'd... only for it to inexplicably not work on her, and her alone. Fortunately, after that [[PutOnABus she left the Spidey books entirely.]]

** Carlie Cooper's portrayal resulted in a massive backlash from fans.[[note]]Creator/JoeQuesada, the mastermind behind ''ComicBook/OneMoreDay'', had originally intended to resurrect Gwen Stacy during the event, but as her death was too important to Spider-Man, he was turned down and conceived Carlie, named after his daughter, instead.[[/note]] Originally it was more along the lines of ReplacementScrappy for ComicBook/{{M|aryJaneWatson}}J, but it escalated when everyone, from past girlfriends to best friends, kept telling Peter how 'right' she was for him because she's his 'intellectual equal'. It was REALLY not helped by the fact she would get mad at Peter for the stupidest things, was pushed as a Woobie because her hero cop dad supposedly died only to be revealed he wasn't a hero and wasn't dead, act like a hypocrite, amongst other problems. She's also received ire for having similar characteristics as four of Peter's past love interests: troubles with father (MJ), NerdsAreSexy and attempted Adorkable (Deb Whitman), loves Peter for him (MJ, and an invert of ComicBook/BlackCat), is old friends with Harry Osborn, a tsundere, and Peter's 'true love' and perfect girl (Gwen). You could make the case that the writers are trying to evoke Gwen Stacy in her character, but in the end comes off as a lot like ComicBook/LanaLang in ''Series/{{Smallville}}''. In the aftermath of ''ComicBook/SpiderIsland'', she was demoted to a supporting cast member without romantic interest in Peter. However, in ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'', the hatred for her increased tenfold, with Carlie somehow being the only one who investigated why Peter was acting massively out of character. She discovers what happened by doing what can be considered the barest minimum of detective work. Again, fans were not amused at Carlie getting such an easy win, and rejoiced when she was Goblin'd... only for it to inexplicably not work on her, and her alone. Fortunately, after that [[PutOnABus she left the Spidey books entirely.]]

* ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'': Franklin Richards, the son of Reed and Susan Richards. Not only is he a frequent kidnapping victim, which in itself would probably make him a Scrappy, but he's also an all-powerful RealityWarper who is undoubtedly one of the most powerful characters in the Marvel Universe. But even that has potential, as seen with characters like Superman, exploring what to do with that power and how much it weighs on people. But no, all he does is pull retcons and marketing gimmicks for Marvel (the much loathed ''ComicBook/HeroesReborn'') and that's when his powers ''aren't'' suppressed. And when that's not happening, his entire character is being the "normal" person, but in a bland, having pretty much no character way. It doesn't help that Valeria Richards, Franklin's younger sister, is much more liked, due to being much more intelligent, fitting in with the high-concept stories more, ''and'' having an interesting relationship with ComicBook/DoctorDoom. Franklin was RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap for some during Jonathan Hickman's beloved run, where Franklin was a focus. His adult counterpart was given an actual match for his powers, and his scenes with ComicBook/{{Galactus}} in particular are liked by many. Franklin himself began being developed into a character who had daddy issues because he is of average intelligence, and what was focused on was that Franklin had a big imagination in comparison to his sister Valeria's intelligence.
** However, pretty much immediately after Hickman's run ended and Matt Fraction's run began, he reverted to his entire character being "the kid" of the group. It didn't help that Valeria also became that kind of character, drawing attention to it.
** [[HesAllGrownUp Dan Slott's take on Franklin]] has proven immensely unpopular. He remains a central focus of Slott's run, but has been heavily flanderized. When he's not PluckyComicRelief, he's angsting. He has been nerfed yet again. Only this time, much of his pagetime is spent acting like a jerk and complaining about his power seep (despite previous incarnations of the character showing much more maturity over this very issue.)

** During the Busiek/Perez run, new character Triathlon wasn't held in very high esteem among the fandom. Some of this was due to being a member of a ChurchOfHappyology, some of this was due to his being foisted on the team by politics, but mostly due to his acting like a JerkAss to the established characters people actually like. After he left the group, any enmity against him was largely forgotten -- until he mercilessly killed [[DefectorFromDecadence Crusader]] at the end of ''ComicBook/SecretInvasion2008''.

** The first Madame Web, mainly because she gave a lot of {{vague|nessIsComing}} prophesizing and warning without ever actually ''helping'' Spider-Man with the threats she keeps saying are just around the corner. It wore on people's nerves after a while. Even in-universe Spidey doesn't like her all that much. You can imagine the collective {{facepalm}} Spidey fans had when Creator/{{Sony}} revealed the ''Film/MadameWeb'' trailer.