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** This can also occasionally extend to the rest of the Batfamily, who have often had their reputations tarred [[GuiltByAssociation because of their association with Batman]]. Many heroes distrust them and think they're only really loyal to Batman; after the events of the ''Tower of Babel'' arc (where Batman got himself temporarily kicked out of the League with his behavior), [[ComicBook/{{Robin}} Tim Drake]] and [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl}} Barbara Gordon]] both had to put up with ComicBook/YoungJustice and the rest of the Justice League shunning them. ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} generally avoids this, both because he's just that much of a NiceGuy and probably because his relationship with Batman is well-known to be rocky.

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** This can also occasionally extend to the rest of the Batfamily, who have often had their reputations tarred [[GuiltByAssociation because of their association with Batman]]. Many heroes distrust them and think they're only really loyal to Batman; after the events of the ''Tower of Babel'' arc (where Batman got himself temporarily kicked out of the League with his behavior), [[ComicBook/{{Robin}} [[Characters/RobinTimDrake Tim Drake]] and [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl}} Barbara Gordon]] both had to put up with ComicBook/YoungJustice and the rest of the Justice League shunning them. ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} generally avoids this, both because he's just that much of a NiceGuy and probably because his relationship with Batman is well-known to be rocky.
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** Pre-Flashpoint Bernard Dowd was this to Tim. Tim's first impression upon meeting him is "luckily I don't share too many classes with Bernard. on first impressions he seems like the type I'll prefer in small doses". While a later event had Tim saying he "thinks he's going to end up liking" him, starting with Bernard perving on Dana (Tim's stepmom), their interactions had Tim express considerable annoyance to him. It got to the point where Tim's final mention of him behind is back is referring to Bernard's conspiracy theories as "vintage Bernard idiocy" and using that as a reason to dismiss them outright. This is why post-Flashpoint treating him as a close friend of Tim and Tim's sudden interest in him has been viewed as incredibly jarring by fans.

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** ''ComicBook/Robin1993'': Pre-Flashpoint Bernard Dowd was this to Tim. Tim Drake. Tim's first impression upon meeting him is "luckily is, "Luckily, I don't share too many classes with Bernard. on On first impressions impressions, he seems like the type I'll prefer in small doses". While a later event had Tim saying he "thinks he's going to end up liking" him, starting with Bernard perving on Dana (Tim's stepmom), their interactions had Tim express considerable annoyance to him. It got to the point where Tim's final mention of him behind is his back is referring refers to Bernard's conspiracy theories as "vintage Bernard idiocy" and using uses that as a reason to dismiss them outright. This is why post-Flashpoint treating him as a close friend of Tim and Tim's sudden interest in him has been viewed as incredibly jarring by fans.
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** Pre-Flashpoint Bernard Dowd was this to Tim. Tim's first impression upon meeting him is "luckily I don't share too many classes with Bernard. on first impressions he seems like the type I'll prefer in small doses". While a later event had Tim saying he "thinks he's going to end up liking" him, starting with Bernard perving on Dana (Tim's stepmom), their interactions had Tim express considerable annoyance to him. It got to the point where Tim's final mention of him behind is back is referring to Bernard's conspiracy theories as "vintage Bernard idiocy" and using that as a reason to dismiss them outright. This is why post-Flashpoint treating him as a close friend of Tim and Tim's sudden interest in him has been viewed as incredibly jarring by fans.
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* When it's not Batman, it's ComicBook/GreenArrow (and even Bruce often barely tolerates him). While few can debate that Ollie ''generally'' tries and usually manages to do the right thing, no one can overlook his arrogance, obnoxious moral grandstanding and virtue signaling, habitual all-take-and-no-give interactional dynamics with most of the people in his life, and general disingenuousness, and that's ''without'' getting into his incessant philandering. That said, the other heroes all like him well enough that the entire Justice League were grateful to see him when he returned from the dead in ''Quiver''; when Roy and Dinah were briefly arguing about their past issues with Oliver, Batman cut the argument off by suggesting they each just appreciate that Oliver was alive again, and both acknowledged this point. Oliver, however, has managed to divert this finally due to the [[ComicBook/GreenArrowRebirth Rebirth run]], [[ComicBook/HeroesInCrisis his grief at the death of his son]] and sacrificing his life for the [[ComicBook/DarkCrisis second time]].

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* When it's not Batman, it's ComicBook/GreenArrow (and even Bruce often barely tolerates him). While few can debate that Ollie [[Characters/GreenArrowOliverQueen Oliver Queen]] ''generally'' tries and usually manages to do the right thing, no one can overlook his arrogance, obnoxious moral grandstanding and virtue signaling, habitual all-take-and-no-give interactional dynamics with most of the people in his life, and general disingenuousness, and that's ''without'' getting into his incessant philandering. That said, the other heroes all like him well enough that the entire Justice League were grateful to see him when he returned from the dead in ''Quiver''; when Roy and Dinah were briefly arguing about their past issues with Oliver, Batman cut the argument off by suggesting they each just appreciate that Oliver was alive again, and both acknowledged this point. Oliver, however, has managed to divert this finally due to the [[ComicBook/GreenArrowRebirth Rebirth run]], [[ComicBook/HeroesInCrisis his grief at the death of his son]] and sacrificing his life for the [[ComicBook/DarkCrisis second time]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'':
** In "The Doomsday Sanction", it's pretty evident that ''nobody'' likes The Question very much, as he is [[GoodIsNotNice generally an unpleasant asshole]] to be around and [[TheParanoiac never gives the conspiracy bit a rest]]...

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''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'': Gotham City detective Harvey Bullock is heavily-disliked InUniverse, which is put to the forefront in "[[Recap/TheAdventuresOfBatmanAndRobinE2ABulletForBullock A Bullet for Bullock]]"; He's an absolute {{Jerkass}} whose moments of politeness and kindness are few and far-between, and he is aggressive, impatient, confrontational, disobediently reckless, and will often run against orders without thinking plans over. To put the cherry on top, his apartment is a pigsty, he always underpays his rent, and he rudely dismisses his landlord's complaints. This all results in a man that Commissioner Gordon and the rest of the police department have ''minimal'' patience for, while almost no other people outside the police force want anything to do with him. Even Batman himself dryly calls him a less-than-ideal citizen.
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** In "The "[[Recap/JusticeLeagueUnlimitedS2E3TheDoomsdaySanction The Doomsday Sanction", Sanction]]", it's pretty evident that ''nobody'' likes The Question very much, as he is [[GoodIsNotNice generally an unpleasant asshole]] to be around and [[TheParanoiac never gives the conspiracy bit a rest]]...



** In the episode "Flash and Substance", it's evident that the other [[RoguesGallery Flash villains]] reluctantly tolerate Trickster's presence and have absolutely no respect for him. They seem to associate with him out of pity; while all the other villains chose their particular jobs, the Trickster is only evil because he is insane and [[NoMedicationForMe no longer taking his medication]].
* ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice2010'': Nabu, the real ComicBook/DoctorFate, who needs a host for him to inhabit. Nobody really likes him because he is no longer willing to release his hosts; even if they are dead, their souls are trapped in the helmet until he gets a new host. [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]] flat out argues for Fate's expulsion from the Justice League at one point, since despite his tactical usefulness, Fate is essentially performing a DemonicPossession on one of their old teammates. Interestingly, Nabu admits that he is mostly hanging out with the League for his own Supervision -- his host does not trust him, and Nabu apparently feels compelled to prove his trustworthiness.

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** In the episode "Flash "[[Recap/JusticeLeagueUnlimitedS3E5FlashAndSubstance Flash and Substance", Substance]]", it's evident that the other [[RoguesGallery Flash villains]] reluctantly tolerate Trickster's presence and have absolutely no respect for him. They seem to associate with him out of pity; while all the other villains chose their particular jobs, the Trickster is only evil because he is insane and [[NoMedicationForMe no longer taking his medication]].
* ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice2010'': Nabu, the real ComicBook/DoctorFate, who needs a host for him to inhabit. Nobody really likes him because Originally such hosts were largely voluntary, but after several decades spent alone without a host when his latest decided to retire, he is no longer willing has become less inclined to release those who don his hosts; even if they helmet. After he makes a deal to permanently inhabit the Justice Leaguer Zatara (in exchange for releasing his daughter ComicBook/{{Zatanna}}), the other superheroes are dead, their souls are trapped in the helmet until he gets a new host.naturally distrustful of him. [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]] flat out argues for Fate's expulsion from the Justice League at one point, since despite his tactical usefulness, Fate is essentially performing a DemonicPossession on one of their old teammates. Interestingly, Nabu himself admits that he is mostly hanging out partially desiring to remain with the League for his own Supervision -- Zatara himself feels it would be a good idea for the League to keep close tabs on Nabu, as his host does not trust him, and Nabu apparently feels compelled to prove his trustworthiness.in the Lord of Order is "measured".
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* ''Series/{{Arrow}}'': Season 3 has Malcolm Merlyn, a former BigBad who's still pretty obnoxious (and an unrepentant mass murderer). The fact that he's openly using them to serve his own ends just makes it worse. The only reason anyone puts up with him is that he's Thea's father and he knows the most about the League of Assassins. Laurel actually consistently argues in favor of just killing him (even in Season 4), but Oliver repeatedly refuses frequently simply because he is Thea's father ([[{{Hypocrite}} despite his willingness to kill other people's fathers, and willingness to (try to) kill Malcolm when he was only known as Tommy's father]]).
** It's never addressed, but it is made clear that Diggle, Roy, and Oliver don't particularly like Laurel in Season 3. Certainly they don't respect her and resist her attempts to join the team. Even after she joins, she's treated like an outsider. Diggle and Roy eventually soften their stance, Oliver... [[WithFriendsLikeThese doesn't particularly]].

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Season 3 has Malcolm Merlyn, a former BigBad who's still pretty obnoxious (and an unrepentant mass murderer). The fact that he's openly using them to serve his own ends just makes it worse. The only reason anyone puts up with him is that he's Thea's father and he knows the most about the League of Assassins. Laurel actually consistently argues in favor of just killing him (even in Season 4), but Oliver repeatedly refuses frequently simply because he is Thea's father ([[{{Hypocrite}} despite his willingness to kill other people's fathers, and willingness to (try to) kill Malcolm when he was only known as Tommy's father]]).
** It's never addressed, but it is made clear that Diggle, Roy, and Oliver don't particularly like Laurel in Season 3. Certainly they don't respect her and resist her attempts to join the team. This may partly be due to her desire to succeed her sister Sara whose death everyone is reeling from, her initial tendency to interfere in their missions, and their focus on their conflict with the League of Assassins and Ra's al Ghul. Even after she joins, she's treated like an outsider.outsider, with [[TheHeart Felicity]] being the only one to offer her any encouragement. Diggle and Roy eventually soften their stance, Oliver... [[WithFriendsLikeThese doesn't particularly]].
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** None of the major characters particularly like Rorschach. Even Dan Dreiberg, the only one willing to describe him as a friend, has a lengthy list of grievances with the asshole who keeps breaking open the locks on his house in order to come in. He's mostly tolerated because all costumed vigilantes are pretty messed up, so they genuinely don't have anyone but each other.

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** None of the major characters particularly like Rorschach.[[Characters/WatchmenRorschach Rorschach]]. Even Dan Dreiberg, the only one willing to describe him as a friend, has a lengthy list of grievances with the asshole who keeps breaking open the locks on his house in order to come in. He's mostly tolerated because all costumed vigilantes are pretty messed up, so they genuinely don't have anyone but each other.
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** [[ComicBook/GreenLantern Hal Jordan]] to the ComicBook/JusticeLeague. Even Superman himself tries to avoid him and makes it clear he can't stand him, yet he's still a part of the league.

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** [[ComicBook/GreenLantern [[Characters/GreenLanternHalJordan Hal Jordan]] to the ComicBook/JusticeLeague. Even Superman himself tries to avoid him and makes it clear he can't stand him, yet he's still a part of the league.
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* When it's not Batman, it's ComicBook/GreenArrow (and even Bruce often barely tolerates him). While few can debate that Ollie ''generally'' tries and usually manages to do the right thing, no one can overlook his arrogance, obnoxious moral grandstanding and virtue signaling, habitual all-take-and-no-give interactional dynamics with most of the people in his life, and general disingenuousness, and that's ''without'' getting into his incessant philandering and truly pathetic record as a parent. It's no accident that most of his allies just kind of tolerate him even on his good days, and there's also a reason why he never really goes for any length of time without someone calling him out on his bullshit. That said, the other heroes all like him well enough that the entire Justice League were grateful to see him when he returned from the dead in ''Quiver''; when Roy and Dinah were briefly arguing about their past issues with Oliver, Batman cut the argument off by suggesting they each just appreciate that Oliver was alive again, and both acknowledged this point.

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* When it's not Batman, it's ComicBook/GreenArrow (and even Bruce often barely tolerates him). While few can debate that Ollie ''generally'' tries and usually manages to do the right thing, no one can overlook his arrogance, obnoxious moral grandstanding and virtue signaling, habitual all-take-and-no-give interactional dynamics with most of the people in his life, and general disingenuousness, and that's ''without'' getting into his incessant philandering and truly pathetic record as a parent. It's no accident that most of his allies just kind of tolerate him even on his good days, and there's also a reason why he never really goes for any length of time without someone calling him out on his bullshit.philandering. That said, the other heroes all like him well enough that the entire Justice League were grateful to see him when he returned from the dead in ''Quiver''; when Roy and Dinah were briefly arguing about their past issues with Oliver, Batman cut the argument off by suggesting they each just appreciate that Oliver was alive again, and both acknowledged this point. Oliver, however, has managed to divert this finally due to the [[ComicBook/GreenArrowRebirth Rebirth run]], [[ComicBook/HeroesInCrisis his grief at the death of his son]] and sacrificing his life for the [[ComicBook/DarkCrisis second time]].
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** The extent of it varies from writer to writer, but Post-Crisis Batman is often this for the Justice League. His brooding, antisocial, and [[{{Jerkass}} rudely]] [[TheStoic stoic]] personality clashes pretty badly with a lot of the League, as does his paranoid tendency to form "contingencies" against his own friends. But he's one of the greatest heroes ever and the other heroes would be screwed without him, if not just from a lack of funding from Wayne Enterprises. ComicBook/{{Superman}} is the only person who really likes having him around on a consistent basis, but between Bruce's paranoia and the duo's totally opposing personalities, even Clark can find him tiresome.

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** The extent of it varies from writer to writer, but Post-Crisis Post-Zero Hour Batman is often this for the Justice League. His brooding, antisocial, and [[{{Jerkass}} rudely]] [[TheStoic stoic]] personality clashes pretty badly with a lot of the League, as does his paranoid tendency to form "contingencies" against his own friends. But he's one of the greatest heroes ever and the other heroes would be screwed without him, if not just from a lack of funding from Wayne Enterprises. ComicBook/{{Superman}} is the only person who really likes having him around on a consistent basis, but between Bruce's paranoia and the duo's totally opposing personalities, even Clark can find him tiresome.
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* Rose Wilson/Ravager is this to the Franchise/TeenTitans for a large variety of reasons, the least of which is the fact that she’s the daughter of [[ComicBook/{{Deathstroke}} one of their archenemies]]. Her relationship with her team mates is often strained and sometimes outright hostile, especially with ComicBook/WonderGirl. The only Titans who consistently get along with Rose are ComicBook/BlueBeetle (who privately admits that she still kind of scares him) and Kid Devil / Red Devil. It eventually gets so bad that she quits the team. Later, when she considers coming back, the Titans actually have a debate on whether to let her back in. For comparison, Bombshell, a traitor who tried to kill the Titans and is pretty unpopular herself, was allowed back with little question after her HeelFaceTurn; Rose is so disliked that an actual traitor is more accepted then her. As a result, Rose ultimately decides to not rejoin and instead leaves to find her own way in life.

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* Rose Wilson/Ravager is this to the Franchise/TeenTitans ComicBook/TeenTitans for a large variety of reasons, the least of which is the fact that she’s the daughter of [[ComicBook/{{Deathstroke}} one of their archenemies]]. Her relationship with her team mates is often strained and sometimes outright hostile, especially with ComicBook/WonderGirl. The only Titans who consistently get along with Rose are ComicBook/BlueBeetle (who privately admits that she still kind of scares him) and Kid Devil / Red Devil. It eventually gets so bad that she quits the team. Later, when she considers coming back, the Titans actually have a debate on whether to let her back in. For comparison, Bombshell, a traitor who tried to kill the Titans and is pretty unpopular herself, was allowed back with little question after her HeelFaceTurn; Rose is so disliked that an actual traitor is more accepted then her. As a result, Rose ultimately decides to not rejoin and instead leaves to find her own way in life.
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* It's been revealed in ''ComicBook/BoosterGold'' and ''ComicBook/PowerGirl'' that even before his FaceHeelTurn, Max Lord was only tolerated at best by the ComicBook/JusticeLeagueInternational because they believed that despite his deceitful and manipulative nature, he was a good person--a belief that ended with his action in ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'' with many now wanted him locked up or outright killed.

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* It's been revealed in ''ComicBook/BoosterGold'' and ''ComicBook/PowerGirl'' that even before his FaceHeelTurn, Max Lord was only tolerated at best by the ComicBook/JusticeLeagueInternational because they believed that despite his deceitful and manipulative nature, he was a good person--a belief that ended with his action in ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'' with many now wanted wanting him locked up or outright killed.

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* When it's not Batman, it's ComicBook/GreenArrow (and even Bruce often barely tolerates him). While few can debate that Ollie ''generally'' tries and usually manages to do the right thing, no one can overlook his arrogance, obnoxious moral grandstanding and virtue signaling, habitual all-take-and-no-give interactional dynamics with most of the people in his life, and general disingenuousness, and that's ''without'' getting into his incessant philandering and truly pathetic record as a parent. It's no accident that most of his allies just kind of tolerate him even on his good days, and there's also a reason why he never really goes for any length of time without someone calling him out on his bullshit.
** That said, the other heroes all like him well enough that the entire Justice League were grateful to see him when he returned from the dead in ''Quiver''; when Roy and Dinah were briefly arguing about their past issues with Oliver, Batman cut the argument of by suggesting they each just appreciate that Oliver was alive again, and both acknowledged this point.

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* When it's not Batman, it's ComicBook/GreenArrow (and even Bruce often barely tolerates him). While few can debate that Ollie ''generally'' tries and usually manages to do the right thing, no one can overlook his arrogance, obnoxious moral grandstanding and virtue signaling, habitual all-take-and-no-give interactional dynamics with most of the people in his life, and general disingenuousness, and that's ''without'' getting into his incessant philandering and truly pathetic record as a parent. It's no accident that most of his allies just kind of tolerate him even on his good days, and there's also a reason why he never really goes for any length of time without someone calling him out on his bullshit.
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bullshit. That said, the other heroes all like him well enough that the entire Justice League were grateful to see him when he returned from the dead in ''Quiver''; when Roy and Dinah were briefly arguing about their past issues with Oliver, Batman cut the argument of off by suggesting they each just appreciate that Oliver was alive again, and both acknowledged this point.
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** The ''ComicBook/DawnOfDC''-era ComicBook/PowerGirl saw herself as this with towards the greater Super-Family because of her attitude and standoffish behavior. In actuality, they would like nothing more for her to be than ''part'' of the family and part of her problem is that she's mostly scared, having lost both her Krypton and Earth-2.
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** In the episode "Flash and Substance", it's evident that the other [[RoguesGallery Flash villains]] reluctantly tolerate Trickster's presence and have absolutely no respect for him. They seem to associate with him out of Pity; while all the other villains chose their particular jobs, the Trickster is only evil because he is insane and [[NoMedicationForMe no longer taking his medication]].

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** In the episode "Flash and Substance", it's evident that the other [[RoguesGallery Flash villains]] reluctantly tolerate Trickster's presence and have absolutely no respect for him. They seem to associate with him out of Pity; pity; while all the other villains chose their particular jobs, the Trickster is only evil because he is insane and [[NoMedicationForMe no longer taking his medication]].
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* When it's not Batman (and even Bruce often barely tolerates him), it's ComicBook/GreenArrow. While few can debate that Ollie ''generally'' tries and usually manages to do the right thing, no one can overlook his arrogance, obnoxious moral grandstanding and virtue signaling, habitual all-take-and-no-give interactional dynamics with most of the people in his life, and general disingenuousness, and that's ''without'' getting into his incessant philandering and truly pathetic record as a parent. It's no accident that most of his allies just kind of tolerate him even on his good days, and there's also a reason why he never really goes for any length of time without someone calling him out on his bullshit.

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** That said, the other heroes all like him well enough that the entire Justice League were grateful to see him when he returned from the dead in ''Quiver''; when Roy and Dinah were briefly arguing about their past issues with Oliver, Batman cut the argument of by suggesting they each just appreciate that Oliver was alive again, and both acknowledged this point.



** None of the major characters particularly like Rorschach. Even Dan Dreiberg, the only one willing to describe him as a friend, has a lengthy list of grievances with the asshole who keeps breaking open the locks on his house in order to come in. He's mostly tolerated because all costumed vigilantes are pretty messed; they genuinely don't have anyone but each other.

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** None of the major characters particularly like Rorschach. Even Dan Dreiberg, the only one willing to describe him as a friend, has a lengthy list of grievances with the asshole who keeps breaking open the locks on his house in order to come in. He's mostly tolerated because all costumed vigilantes are pretty messed; messed up, so they genuinely don't have anyone but each other.
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* ComicBook/JohnConstantine is pretty hated among the heroes who know of him. He's a manipulative man who will rope other people into his efforts and has been known to come out unscathed when those who've worked with him get the short end of the stick. Underneath it all, he's a good man who feels responsible for those he's been powerless to protect.

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* ComicBook/JohnConstantine is pretty hated among the heroes who know of him. He's him, because he has a manipulative man who will rope other reputation for manipulating his friends and getting them killed. And while this reputation is somewhat overblown (he genuinely does want to help people into and is traumatized by his efforts and has been known to come out unscathed when those who've worked with him get the short end of the stick. Underneath it all, friends dying), he's a good man who feels responsible for those he's been powerless to protect.still [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold abrasive]], [[GoodIsNotNice somewhat ruthless]], and ''exeptionally'' unlucky.

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* The extent of it varies from writer to writer, but Franchise/{{Batman}} is typically this for the Justice League. His brooding, antisocial, and [[{{Jerkass}} rudely]] [[TheStoic stoic]] personality clashes pretty badly with a lot of the League, as does his paranoid tendency to form "contingencies" against his own friends. But he's one of the greatest heroes ever and the other heroes would be screwed without him, if not just from a lack of funding from Wayne Enterprises. Franchise/{{Superman}} is the only person who really likes having him around on a consistent basis, but between Bruce's paranoia and the duo's totally opposing personalities, even Clark can find him tiresome.
** This can also occasionally extend to the rest of the Batfamily, who have often had their reputations tarred [[GuiltByAssociation because of their association with Batman]]. Many heroes distrust them and think they’re only really loyal to Batman; after the events of the "Tower of Babel" arc (where Batman got himself temporarily kicked out of the League with his behavior), [[ComicBook/{{Robin}} Tim Drake]] and [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl}} Barbara Gordon]] both had to put up with ComicBook/YoungJustice and the rest of the Justice League shunning them. ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} generally avoids this, both because he's just that much of a NiceGuy and probably because his relationship with Batman is well-known to be rocky.

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The extent of it varies from writer to writer, but Franchise/{{Batman}} Post-Crisis Batman is typically often this for the Justice League. His brooding, antisocial, and [[{{Jerkass}} rudely]] [[TheStoic stoic]] personality clashes pretty badly with a lot of the League, as does his paranoid tendency to form "contingencies" against his own friends. But he's one of the greatest heroes ever and the other heroes would be screwed without him, if not just from a lack of funding from Wayne Enterprises. Franchise/{{Superman}} ComicBook/{{Superman}} is the only person who really likes having him around on a consistent basis, but between Bruce's paranoia and the duo's totally opposing personalities, even Clark can find him tiresome.
** This can also occasionally extend to the rest of the Batfamily, who have often had their reputations tarred [[GuiltByAssociation because of their association with Batman]]. Many heroes distrust them and think they’re they're only really loyal to Batman; after the events of the "Tower ''Tower of Babel" Babel'' arc (where Batman got himself temporarily kicked out of the League with his behavior), [[ComicBook/{{Robin}} Tim Drake]] and [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl}} Barbara Gordon]] both had to put up with ComicBook/YoungJustice and the rest of the Justice League shunning them. ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} generally avoids this, both because he's just that much of a NiceGuy and probably because his relationship with Batman is well-known to be rocky.



* When it's not Batman (and even Bruce often barely tolerates him), it's ComicBook/GreenArrow. While few can debate that Ollie ''generally'' tries and usually manages to do the right thing, no one can overlook his arrogance, obnoxious moral grandstanding and virtue signaling, habitual all take and no give interactional dynamics with most of the people in his life, and general disingenuousness, and that's ''without'' getting into his incessant philandering and truly pathetic record as a parent. It's no accident that most of his allies just kind of tolerate him even on his good days, and there's also a reason why he never really goes for any length of time without someone calling him out on his bullshit.

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* When it's not Batman (and even Bruce often barely tolerates him), it's ComicBook/GreenArrow. While few can debate that Ollie ''generally'' tries and usually manages to do the right thing, no one can overlook his arrogance, obnoxious moral grandstanding and virtue signaling, habitual all take and no give all-take-and-no-give interactional dynamics with most of the people in his life, and general disingenuousness, and that's ''without'' getting into his incessant philandering and truly pathetic record as a parent. It's no accident that most of his allies just kind of tolerate him even on his good days, and there's also a reason why he never really goes for any length of time without someone calling him out on his bullshit.



* ''[[ComicBook/Supergirl2011 Post-Flashpoint]]'' ''ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'' genuinely believes nobody likes her because she's short-tempered and ever-angry, and they only put up with her because they find her powers useful. In the ''ComicBook/RedDaughterOfKrypton'' storyline Kara thinks no one wants her around because she is too dangerous after being kicked out of the Red Lanterns.

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''[[ComicBook/Supergirl2011 Post-Flashpoint]]'' ''ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'' ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} genuinely believes nobody likes her because she's short-tempered and ever-angry, and they only put up with her because they find her powers useful. In the ''ComicBook/RedDaughterOfKrypton'' storyline Kara thinks no one wants her around because she is too dangerous after being kicked out of the Red Lanterns.Lanterns.
** ''ComicBook/SupermanSupergirlMaelstrom'': No Apokoliptian likes or takes the titular villainess seriously. Darkseid considers her an arrogant annoyance, Granny Goodness regards her as a disappointment, Desaad thinks she is amusing, the Female Furies would eviscerate her in a blink if ordered, and Darkseid's foot soldiers would rather throw her into an acid pit than deal with her.



** None of the major characters particularly like Rorschach. Even Dan Dreiberg, the only one willing to describe him as a friend, has a lengthy list of grievances with the sexist, homophobic, hypocritical asshole who keeps breaking open the locks on his house in order to come in. He's mostly tolerated because part of ''Watchmen'''s point about costumed vigilantes is that you'd have to be pretty messed up to be one; they genuinely don't have anyone but each other.

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** None of the major characters particularly like Rorschach. Even Dan Dreiberg, the only one willing to describe him as a friend, has a lengthy list of grievances with the sexist, homophobic, hypocritical asshole who keeps breaking open the locks on his house in order to come in. He's mostly tolerated because part of ''Watchmen'''s point about all costumed vigilantes is that you'd have to be are pretty messed up to be one; messed; they genuinely don't have anyone but each other.
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* The extent of it varies from writer to writer, but Franchise/{{Batman}} is typically this for the Justice League. His brooding, antisocial, and [[{{Jerkass}} rudely]] [[TheStoic stoic]] personality clashes pretty badly with a lot of the League, as does his paranoid tendency to form “contingencies” against his own friends. But he's one of the greatest heroes ever and the other heroes would be screwed without him, if not just from a lack of funding from Wayne Enterprises. Franchise/{{Superman}} is the only person who really likes having him around on a consistent basis, but between Bruce's paranoia and the duo's totally opposing personalities, even Clark can find him tiresome.
** This can also occasionally extend to the rest of the Batfamily, who have often had their reputations tarred [[GuiltByAssociation because of their association with Batman]]. Many heroes distrust them and think they’re only really loyal to Batman; after the events of the “Tower of Babel” arc (where Batman got himself temporarily kicked out of the League with his behavior), ComicBook/{{Robin|Series}} and ComicBook/{{Oracle}} both had to put up with ComicBook/YoungJustice and the rest of the Justice League shunning them. ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} generally avoids this, both because he’s just that much of a NiceGuy and probably because his relationship with Batman is well-known to be rocky.

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* The extent of it varies from writer to writer, but Franchise/{{Batman}} is typically this for the Justice League. His brooding, antisocial, and [[{{Jerkass}} rudely]] [[TheStoic stoic]] personality clashes pretty badly with a lot of the League, as does his paranoid tendency to form “contingencies” "contingencies" against his own friends. But he's one of the greatest heroes ever and the other heroes would be screwed without him, if not just from a lack of funding from Wayne Enterprises. Franchise/{{Superman}} is the only person who really likes having him around on a consistent basis, but between Bruce's paranoia and the duo's totally opposing personalities, even Clark can find him tiresome.
** This can also occasionally extend to the rest of the Batfamily, who have often had their reputations tarred [[GuiltByAssociation because of their association with Batman]]. Many heroes distrust them and think they’re only really loyal to Batman; after the events of the “Tower "Tower of Babel” Babel" arc (where Batman got himself temporarily kicked out of the League with his behavior), ComicBook/{{Robin|Series}} [[ComicBook/{{Robin}} Tim Drake]] and ComicBook/{{Oracle}} [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl}} Barbara Gordon]] both had to put up with ComicBook/YoungJustice and the rest of the Justice League shunning them. ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} generally avoids this, both because he’s he's just that much of a NiceGuy and probably because his relationship with Batman is well-known to be rocky.
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* ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'': Nabu, the real ComicBook/DoctorFate, who needs a host for him to inhabit. Nobody really likes him because he is no longer willing to release his hosts; even if they are dead, their souls are trapped in the helmet until he gets a new host. [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]] flat out argues for Fate's expulsion from the Justice League at one point, since despite his tactical usefulness, Fate is essentially performing a DemonicPossession on one of their old teammates. Interestingly, Nabu admits that he is mostly hanging out with the League for his own Supervision -- his host does not trust him, and Nabu apparently feels compelled to prove his trustworthiness.

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* ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'': ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice2010'': Nabu, the real ComicBook/DoctorFate, who needs a host for him to inhabit. Nobody really likes him because he is no longer willing to release his hosts; even if they are dead, their souls are trapped in the helmet until he gets a new host. [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]] flat out argues for Fate's expulsion from the Justice League at one point, since despite his tactical usefulness, Fate is essentially performing a DemonicPossession on one of their old teammates. Interestingly, Nabu admits that he is mostly hanging out with the League for his own Supervision -- his host does not trust him, and Nabu apparently feels compelled to prove his trustworthiness.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheLegoMovie'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheLegoBatmanMovie'':
** [[ComicBook/GreenLantern Hal Jordan]] to the ComicBook/JusticeLeague. Even Superman himself tries to avoid him and makes it clear he can't stand him, yet he's still a part of the league.
** ComicBook/{{Batman}} himself comes across as prideful, self-obsessed, antisocial, and trying way too hard to be cool. He makes up for it with his impressive competence and is considered famous and beloved by the general populace, but it's suggested that most of the League doesn't really like having him around. Fortunately, he does mellow out.
* ''Film/BirdsOfPrey2020'' reveals pretty much the entirety of Gotham's criminal underworld hates Harley Quinn's guts, but are forced to put up with all her bullshit and abusive behavior because she was the Joker's girlfriend and everyone was terrified of crossing him. The second they're certain they've broken up, everyone in town starts coming for her head.

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* ''Series/{{Arrow}}'': Season 3 has Malcolm Merlyn, a former BigBad who's still pretty obnoxious (and an unrepentant mass murderer). The fact that he's openly using them to serve his own ends just makes it worse. The only reason anyone puts up with him is that he's Thea's father and he knows the most about the League of Assassins. Laurel actually consistently argues in favor of just killing him (even in Season 4), but Oliver repeatedly refuses frequently simply because he is Thea's father ([[{{Hypocrite}} despite his willingness to kill other people's fathers, and willingness to (try to) kill Malcolm when he was only known as Tommy's father]]).
** It's never addressed, but it is made clear that Diggle, Roy, and Oliver don't particularly like Laurel in Season 3. Certainly they don't respect her and resist her attempts to join the team. Even after she joins, she's treated like an outsider. Diggle and Roy eventually soften their stance, Oliver... [[WithFriendsLikeThese doesn't particularly]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'':
** In "The Doomsday Sanction", it's pretty evident that ''nobody'' likes The Question very much, as he is [[GoodIsNotNice generally an unpleasant asshole]] to be around and [[TheParanoiac never gives the conspiracy bit a rest]]...
---> '''Batman:''' I've got The Question looking into it--\\
'''Everyone:''' Awww!!!\\
'''Flash:''' Not that kook!\\
'''Batman:''' I admit he's wound a bit too tightly, but if anyone can find a hidden link he's our man.
** In the episode "Flash and Substance", it's evident that the other [[RoguesGallery Flash villains]] reluctantly tolerate Trickster's presence and have absolutely no respect for him. They seem to associate with him out of Pity; while all the other villains chose their particular jobs, the Trickster is only evil because he is insane and [[NoMedicationForMe no longer taking his medication]].
* ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'': Nabu, the real ComicBook/DoctorFate, who needs a host for him to inhabit. Nobody really likes him because he is no longer willing to release his hosts; even if they are dead, their souls are trapped in the helmet until he gets a new host. [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]] flat out argues for Fate's expulsion from the Justice League at one point, since despite his tactical usefulness, Fate is essentially performing a DemonicPossession on one of their old teammates. Interestingly, Nabu admits that he is mostly hanging out with the League for his own Supervision -- his host does not trust him, and Nabu apparently feels compelled to prove his trustworthiness.

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* It's been revealed in ''ComicBook/BoosterGold'' and ''ComicBook/PowerGirl'' that even before his FaceHeelTurn, Max Lord was only tolerated at best by the ComicBook/JusticeLeagueInternational because they believed that despite his deceitful and manipulative nature, he was a good person--a belief that ended with his action in ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'' with many now wanted him locked up or outright killed.
* Among ComicBook/TheFlash's main rogues gallery -- most of whom otherwise [[VillainousFriendship genuinely enjoy each other's company]] and [[EvilIsOneBigHappyFamily form a strange yet close-knit community of sorts]] -- the one Rogue none of the other villains can stand to be around is Captain Boomerang. The Rogues generally have a code of conduct and [[EvenEvilHasStandards moral lines that they will never cross]], but Boomer is more likely than not to flout those rules and cross those lines whenever it strikes his fancy, and the Rogues generally disdain him for being a [[LowerClassLout boorish]], [[DirtyCoward cowardly]], [[ItsAllAboutMe selfish]], [[ManChild immature]], [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain casually bigoted]] JerkAss [[TheBogan who embodies a number of offensive Australian stereotypes]]. The Rogues only keep him around because he's [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass really good at what he does]].



* Rose Wilson/Ravager is this to the Franchise/TeenTitans for a large variety of reasons, the least of which is the fact that she’s the daughter of [[ComicBook/{{Deathstroke}} one of their archenemies]]. Her relationship with her team mates is often strained and sometimes outright hostile, especially with ComicBook/WonderGirl. The only Titans who consistently get along with Rose are ComicBook/BlueBeetle (who privately admits that she still kind of scares him) and Kid Devil / Red Devil. It eventually gets so bad that she quits the team. Later, when she considers coming back, the Titans actually have a debate on whether to let her back in. For comparison, Bombshell, a traitor who tried to kill the Titans and is pretty unpopular herself, was allowed back with little question after her HeelFaceTurn; Rose is so disliked that an actual traitor is more accepted then her. As a result, Rose ultimately decides to not rejoin and instead leaves to find her own way in life.

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* Rose Wilson/Ravager is this to the Franchise/TeenTitans for a large variety of reasons, the least of which is the fact that she’s the daughter of [[ComicBook/{{Deathstroke}} one of their archenemies]]. Her relationship with her team mates is often strained and sometimes outright hostile, especially with ComicBook/WonderGirl. The only Titans who consistently get along with Rose are ComicBook/BlueBeetle (who privately admits that she still kind of scares him) and Kid Devil / Red Devil. It eventually gets so bad that she quits the team. Later, when she considers coming back, the Titans actually have a debate on whether to let her back in. For comparison, Bombshell, a traitor who tried to kill the Titans and ComicBook/JohnConstantine is pretty unpopular herself, was allowed back hated among the heroes who know of him. He's a manipulative man who will rope other people into his efforts and has been known to come out unscathed when those who've worked with little question after her HeelFaceTurn; Rose is so disliked that an actual traitor is more accepted then her. As him get the short end of the stick. Underneath it all, he's a result, Rose ultimately decides good man who feels responsible for those he's been powerless to not rejoin and instead leaves to find her own way in life. protect.



* Ragdoll of the ''ComicBook/SecretSix'' is viewed as a complete weirdo by his teammates, who openly state how much he freaks them out and they keep him around mostly for usefulness and, it's implied, partly out of pity. And even Ragdoll is {{squick}}ed when new team member Black Alice [[NightmareFetishist develops a crush on him.]] Ironically, he's probably one of the most popular characters among fans of the series.



* ComicBook/JohnConstantine is pretty hated among the heroes who know of him. He's a manipulative man who will rope other people into his efforts and has been known to come out unscathed when those who've worked with him get the short end of the stick. Underneath it all, he's a good man who feels responsible for those he's been powerless to protect.
* Among ComicBook/TheFlash's main rogues gallery -- most of whom otherwise [[VillainousFriendship genuinely enjoy each other's company]] and [[EvilIsOneBigHappyFamily form a strange yet close-knit community of sorts]] -- the one Rogue none of the other villains can stand to be around is Captain Boomerang. The Rogues generally have a code of conduct and [[EvenEvilHasStandards moral lines that they will never cross]], but Boomer is more likely than not to flout those rules and cross those lines whenever it strikes his fancy, and the Rogues generally disdain him for being a [[LowerClassLout boorish]], [[DirtyCoward cowardly]], [[ItsAllAboutMe selfish]], [[ManChild immature]], [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain casually bigoted]] JerkAss [[TheBogan who embodies a number of offensive Australian stereotypes]]. The Rogues only keep him around because he's [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass really good at what he does]].
* Ragdoll of the ''ComicBook/SecretSix'' is viewed as a complete weirdo by his teammates, who openly state how much he freaks them out and they keep him around mostly for usefulness and, it's implied, partly out of pity. And even Ragdoll is {{squick}}ed when new team member Black Alice [[NightmareFetishist develops a crush on him.]] Ironically, he's probably one of the most popular characters among fans of the series.
* It's been revealed in ''ComicBook/BoosterGold'' and ''ComicBook/PowerGirl'' that even before his FaceHeelTurn, Max Lord was only tolerated at best by the ComicBook/JusticeLeagueInternational because they believed that despite his deceitful and manipulative nature, he was a good person--a belief that ended with his action in ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'' with many now wanted him locked up or outright killed.

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* ComicBook/JohnConstantine Rose Wilson/Ravager is this to the Franchise/TeenTitans for a large variety of reasons, the least of which is the fact that she’s the daughter of [[ComicBook/{{Deathstroke}} one of their archenemies]]. Her relationship with her team mates is often strained and sometimes outright hostile, especially with ComicBook/WonderGirl. The only Titans who consistently get along with Rose are ComicBook/BlueBeetle (who privately admits that she still kind of scares him) and Kid Devil / Red Devil. It eventually gets so bad that she quits the team. Later, when she considers coming back, the Titans actually have a debate on whether to let her back in. For comparison, Bombshell, a traitor who tried to kill the Titans and is pretty hated among the heroes who know of him. He's a manipulative man who will rope other people into his efforts and has been known to come out unscathed when those who've worked unpopular herself, was allowed back with him get the short end of the stick. Underneath it all, he's a good man who feels responsible for those he's been powerless to protect.
* Among ComicBook/TheFlash's main rogues gallery -- most of whom otherwise [[VillainousFriendship genuinely enjoy each other's company]] and [[EvilIsOneBigHappyFamily form a strange yet close-knit community of sorts]] -- the one Rogue none of the other villains can stand to be around
little question after her HeelFaceTurn; Rose is Captain Boomerang. The Rogues generally have a code of conduct and [[EvenEvilHasStandards moral lines so disliked that they will never cross]], but Boomer an actual traitor is more likely than accepted then her. As a result, Rose ultimately decides to not to flout those rules rejoin and cross those lines whenever it strikes his fancy, and the Rogues generally disdain him for being a [[LowerClassLout boorish]], [[DirtyCoward cowardly]], [[ItsAllAboutMe selfish]], [[ManChild immature]], [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain casually bigoted]] JerkAss [[TheBogan who embodies a number of offensive Australian stereotypes]]. The Rogues only keep him around because he's [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass really good at what he does]].
* Ragdoll of the ''ComicBook/SecretSix'' is viewed as a complete weirdo by his teammates, who openly state how much he freaks them out and they keep him around mostly for usefulness and, it's implied, partly out of pity. And even Ragdoll is {{squick}}ed when new team member Black Alice [[NightmareFetishist develops a crush on him.]] Ironically, he's probably one of the most popular characters among fans of the series.
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instead leaves to find her own way in ''ComicBook/BoosterGold'' and ''ComicBook/PowerGirl'' that even before his FaceHeelTurn, Max Lord was only tolerated at best by the ComicBook/JusticeLeagueInternational because they believed that despite his deceitful and manipulative nature, he was a good person--a belief that ended with his action in ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'' with many now wanted him locked up or outright killed.life.



** In ''ComicBook/BeforeWatchmen: Minutemen'', none of the Minutemen particularly like the Comedian, even before he tries to rape Sally Jupiter, but there aren't enough other costumed heroes around for them to be picky.

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* The extent of it varies from writer to writer, but Franchise/{{Batman}} is typically this for the Justice League. His brooding, antisocial, and [[{{Jerkass}} rudely]] [[TheStoic stoic]] personality clashes pretty badly with a lot of the League, as does his paranoid tendency to form “contingencies” against his own friends. But he's one of the greatest heroes ever and the other heroes would be screwed without him, if not just from a lack of funding from Wayne Enterprises. Franchise/{{Superman}} is the only person who really likes having him around on a consistent basis, but between Bruce's paranoia and the duo's totally opposing personalities, even Clark can find him tiresome.
** This can also occasionally extend to the rest of the Batfamily, who have often had their reputations tarred [[GuiltByAssociation because of their association with Batman]]. Many heroes distrust them and think they’re only really loyal to Batman; after the events of the “Tower of Babel” arc (where Batman got himself temporarily kicked out of the League with his behavior), ComicBook/{{Robin|Series}} and ComicBook/{{Oracle}} both had to put up with ComicBook/YoungJustice and the rest of the Justice League shunning them. ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} generally avoids this, both because he’s just that much of a NiceGuy and probably because his relationship with Batman is well-known to be rocky.
* When it's not Batman (and even Bruce often barely tolerates him), it's ComicBook/GreenArrow. While few can debate that Ollie ''generally'' tries and usually manages to do the right thing, no one can overlook his arrogance, obnoxious moral grandstanding and virtue signaling, habitual all take and no give interactional dynamics with most of the people in his life, and general disingenuousness, and that's ''without'' getting into his incessant philandering and truly pathetic record as a parent. It's no accident that most of his allies just kind of tolerate him even on his good days, and there's also a reason why he never really goes for any length of time without someone calling him out on his bullshit.
* Rose Wilson/Ravager is this to the Franchise/TeenTitans for a large variety of reasons, the least of which is the fact that she’s the daughter of [[ComicBook/{{Deathstroke}} one of their archenemies]]. Her relationship with her team mates is often strained and sometimes outright hostile, especially with ComicBook/WonderGirl. The only Titans who consistently get along with Rose are ComicBook/BlueBeetle (who privately admits that she still kind of scares him) and Kid Devil / Red Devil. It eventually gets so bad that she quits the team. Later, when she considers coming back, the Titans actually have a debate on whether to let her back in. For comparison, Bombshell, a traitor who tried to kill the Titans and is pretty unpopular herself, was allowed back with little question after her HeelFaceTurn; Rose is so disliked that an actual traitor is more accepted then her. As a result, Rose ultimately decides to not rejoin and instead leaves to find her own way in life.
* For the villains, we have ComicBook/TheJoker. In fact, ComicBook/LexLuthor is GenreSavvy enough to usually bring him into whatever group he is starting, mainly because while he's psychotic, unpredictable, and irritating, it's much more preferable to have him on your side rather than having him pissed off at you for not inviting him. Interestingly enough, despite both of them backstabbing one another, Lex and Joker team up often and seem to enjoy another's company.
* ''[[ComicBook/Supergirl2011 Post-Flashpoint]]'' ''ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'' genuinely believes nobody likes her because she's short-tempered and ever-angry, and they only put up with her because they find her powers useful. In the ''ComicBook/RedDaughterOfKrypton'' storyline Kara thinks no one wants her around because she is too dangerous after being kicked out of the Red Lanterns.
* ComicBook/JohnConstantine is pretty hated among the heroes who know of him. He's a manipulative man who will rope other people into his efforts and has been known to come out unscathed when those who've worked with him get the short end of the stick. Underneath it all, he's a good man who feels responsible for those he's been powerless to protect.
* Among ComicBook/TheFlash's main rogues gallery -- most of whom otherwise [[VillainousFriendship genuinely enjoy each other's company]] and [[EvilIsOneBigHappyFamily form a strange yet close-knit community of sorts]] -- the one Rogue none of the other villains can stand to be around is Captain Boomerang. The Rogues generally have a code of conduct and [[EvenEvilHasStandards moral lines that they will never cross]], but Boomer is more likely than not to flout those rules and cross those lines whenever it strikes his fancy, and the Rogues generally disdain him for being a [[LowerClassLout boorish]], [[DirtyCoward cowardly]], [[ItsAllAboutMe selfish]], [[ManChild immature]], [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain casually bigoted]] JerkAss [[TheBogan who embodies a number of offensive Australian stereotypes]]. The Rogues only keep him around because he's [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass really good at what he does]].
* Ragdoll of the ''ComicBook/SecretSix'' is viewed as a complete weirdo by his teammates, who openly state how much he freaks them out and they keep him around mostly for usefulness and, it's implied, partly out of pity. And even Ragdoll is {{squick}}ed when new team member Black Alice [[NightmareFetishist develops a crush on him.]] Ironically, he's probably one of the most popular characters among fans of the series.
* It's been revealed in ''ComicBook/BoosterGold'' and ''ComicBook/PowerGirl'' that even before his FaceHeelTurn, Max Lord was only tolerated at best by the ComicBook/JusticeLeagueInternational because they believed that despite his deceitful and manipulative nature, he was a good person--a belief that ended with his action in ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'' with many now wanted him locked up or outright killed.
* ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'':
** None of the major characters particularly like Rorschach. Even Dan Dreiberg, the only one willing to describe him as a friend, has a lengthy list of grievances with the sexist, homophobic, hypocritical asshole who keeps breaking open the locks on his house in order to come in. He's mostly tolerated because part of ''Watchmen'''s point about costumed vigilantes is that you'd have to be pretty messed up to be one; they genuinely don't have anyone but each other.
** In ''ComicBook/BeforeWatchmen: Minutemen'', none of the Minutemen particularly like the Comedian, even before he tries to rape Sally Jupiter, but there aren't enough other costumed heroes around for them to be picky.

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