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*** Not to mention that it almost deserves the designation as hardest Medium-difficulty drum chart - This troper, a proficient drummer in real life, failed it on Expert, dropped to Hard, failed again later in the song, dropped to medium, and barely made it past the same exact part on medium. The only thing significantly worse than it is Hot for Teacher on drums, which the same troper can't even last to the start of the guitar part on Drums-Expert. and keep in mind this is with the ROCK BAND 1 drum set, not the World Tour drum set (which makes some songs a lot easier on Expert, but uses 5 surfaces and a kick bass as opposed to 4 lanes and kick bass [DethroningMomentOfSuck and the cymbol note is charted to the blue pad])
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*** Not to mention that it almost deserves the designation as hardest Medium-difficulty drum chart - This troper, a proficient drummer in real life, failed it on Expert, dropped to Hard, failed again later in the song, dropped to medium, and barely made it past the same exact part on medium. The only thing significantly worse than it is Hot for Teacher on drums, which the same troper can't even last to the start of the guitar part on Drums-Expert. and keep in mind this is with the ROCK BAND 1 drum set, not the World Tour drum set (which makes some songs a lot easier on Expert, but uses 5 surfaces and a kick bass as opposed to 4 lanes and kick bass [DethroningMomentOfSuck [[Main:DethroningMomentOfSuck and for the Rock Band Drum Kit the cymbol note is charted to the blue pad])pad]])
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*** Made even worse by the fact that Tom Morello is intelligent, Slash is a pushover but nothing a few runs won't help, and Lou is SOUL-CRUSHING.
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*** Made even worse by the fact that Tom Morello is intelligent, Slash is a pushover but nothing a few runs won't help, [[ ButThouMust and Lou is SOUL-CRUSHING.one boss that you will never skip untill you beat him for the first time on any difficulty in career]]
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** The real killer in ''World Tour'' is B.Y.O.B. Both the guitar and bass parts are nasty, and the song ''starts'' on the hard section, without giving you a chance to get the rhythm of the song or build up star power.
*** Not to mention that it almost deserves the designation as hardest Medium-difficulty drum chart - This troper, a proficient drummer in real life, failed it on Expert, dropped to Hard, failed again later in the song, dropped to medium, and barely made it past the same exact part on medium. The only thing significantly worse than it is Hot for Teacher on drums, which the same troper can't even last to the start of the guitar part on Drums-Expert. and keep in mind this is with the ROCK BAND 1 drum set, not the World Tour drum set (which makes some songs a lot easier on Expert, but uses 5 surfaces and a kick bass as opposed to 4 lanes and kick bass)
** Thanks in part to a strict judgement system, vocalists get these regularly even for songs they can do easily, especially on Expert (where you must get somewhere around 90% on each phrase to sustain a combo - miss one fraction of a syllable, and you'll get 99% or worse on the phrase). One of the biggest offenders, though, is the final main setlist song for vocalists, ''Beat It'', which has extremely short notes. miss one? there goes your combo. miss two? your rock gauge drops a bit. miss 3 or more? your rock gauge drops a LOT. the achievement for this song on vocals (requiring a score of 123,450 in vocals solo) is so difficult that people usually end up resorting to trying to get the maximum number of points from the freeform sections alone and hoping that they can do good enough on the rest of the song to get up to the 123,450 for the achievement.
*** Not to mention that it almost deserves the designation as hardest Medium-difficulty drum chart - This troper, a proficient drummer in real life, failed it on Expert, dropped to Hard, failed again later in the song, dropped to medium, and barely made it past the same exact part on medium. The only thing significantly worse than it is Hot for Teacher on drums, which the same troper can't even last to the start of the guitar part on Drums-Expert. and keep in mind this is with the ROCK BAND 1 drum set, not the World Tour drum set (which makes some songs a lot easier on Expert, but uses 5 surfaces and a kick bass as opposed to 4 lanes and kick bass)
** Thanks in part to a strict judgement system, vocalists get these regularly even for songs they can do easily, especially on Expert (where you must get somewhere around 90% on each phrase to sustain a combo - miss one fraction of a syllable, and you'll get 99% or worse on the phrase). One of the biggest offenders, though, is the final main setlist song for vocalists, ''Beat It'', which has extremely short notes. miss one? there goes your combo. miss two? your rock gauge drops a bit. miss 3 or more? your rock gauge drops a LOT. the achievement for this song on vocals (requiring a score of 123,450 in vocals solo) is so difficult that people usually end up resorting to trying to get the maximum number of points from the freeform sections alone and hoping that they can do good enough on the rest of the song to get up to the 123,450 for the achievement.
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** The real killer in ''World Tour'' is B.Y.O.B. Both the guitar and bass parts are nasty, and the song ''starts'' on the hard section, without if you're unlucky it's not giving you a chance to get the rhythm of the song or build up star power.
*** Not to mention that it almost deserves the designation as hardest Medium-difficulty drum chart - This troper, a proficient drummer in real life, failed it on Expert, dropped to Hard, failed again later in the song, dropped to medium, and barely made it past the same exact part on medium. The only thing significantly worse than it is Hot for Teacher on drums, which the same troper can't even last to the start of the guitar part on Drums-Expert. and keep in mind this is with the ROCK BAND 1 drum set, not the World Tour drum set (which makes some songs a lot easier on Expert, but uses 5 surfaces and a kick bass as opposed to 4 lanes and kickbass)
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** Thanks in part to a strict judgement system, vocalists get these regularly even for songs they can do easily, especially on Expert (where you must get somewhere around 90% on each phrase to sustain a combo - miss one fraction of a syllable, and you'll get 99% or worse on the phrase). One of the biggest offenders, though, is the final main setlist song for vocalists, ''Beat It'', which has extremely short notes. miss one? there goes your combo. miss two? your rock gauge drops a bit. miss 3 or more? your rock gauge drops a LOT. Miss too many and YOU FAIL! the achievement for this song on vocals (requiring a score of 123,450 in vocals solo) is so difficult that people usually end up resorting to trying to get the maximum number of points from the freeform sections alone and hoping that they can do good enough on the rest of the song to get up to the 123,450 for the achievement.
*** Not to mention that it almost deserves the designation as hardest Medium-difficulty drum chart - This troper, a proficient drummer in real life, failed it on Expert, dropped to Hard, failed again later in the song, dropped to medium, and barely made it past the same exact part on medium. The only thing significantly worse than it is Hot for Teacher on drums, which the same troper can't even last to the start of the guitar part on Drums-Expert. and keep in mind this is with the ROCK BAND 1 drum set, not the World Tour drum set (which makes some songs a lot easier on Expert, but uses 5 surfaces and a kick bass as opposed to 4 lanes and kick
** Thanks in part to a strict judgement system, vocalists get these regularly even for songs they can do easily, especially on Expert (where you must get somewhere around 90% on each phrase to sustain a combo - miss one fraction of a syllable, and you'll get 99% or worse on the phrase). One of the biggest offenders, though, is the final main setlist song for vocalists, ''Beat It'', which has extremely short notes. miss one? there goes your combo. miss two? your rock gauge drops a bit. miss 3 or more? your rock gauge drops a LOT. Miss too many and YOU FAIL! the achievement for this song on vocals (requiring a score of 123,450 in vocals solo) is so difficult that people usually end up resorting to trying to get the maximum number of points from the freeform sections alone and hoping that they can do good enough on the rest of the song to get up to the 123,450 for the achievement.
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*** "[[{{Queen}} Under Pressure]]" on vocals. It you can get ''that'' note (and you'll know the one), you are either Freddie Mercury's revenant, or you have been castrated.
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*** "[[{{Queen}} Under Pressure]]" on vocals. It you can get ''that'' note (and you'll know the one), you are either Freddie Mercury's revenant, or you have been castrated.need some practice.
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* While [[EvilKnockoff Evila]] is the most-cited ThatOneBoss in SpaceChannel5, Giant Evila and Purge the King usually aren't far behind. You need to do the opposite of what they say before shooting, or else you'll hit your allies. Giant Evila sends out a ''lot'' of shoot commands, which gets confusing, and while Purge the King has a much shorter segment, he only gives you three chances to fail.
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** Gabba Bond (4Skips vs Big Kiss Remix) on Insane always messed this troper up, due to the heavy amount of mines in the chart. And after hitting one, avoiding any more becomes a sadistic endevarour.
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*** Even the ''vocalist'' doesn't get away unbruised from Don't Fear the Reaper. The song is easy enough to sing, but during the instrumental parts of the song you need to clap your hand on the microphone (in a very specific manner, may I add) to simulate playing the wood block. The outro of the song has you doing this ''100 times in a row''. By the time you're done, the palm of your hand resembles a raw steak.
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*** Even the ''vocalist'' doesn't get away unbruised from Don't Fear the Reaper. The song is easy enough to sing, but during the instrumental parts of the song you need to clap your hand on the microphone (in a very specific manner, may I add) to simulate playing the wood block. cowbell. The outro of the song has you doing this ''100 ''96 times in a row''. By the time you're done, the palm of your hand resembles a raw steak.steak, and will be thinking "[[MemeticMutation No more cowbell!]]" (There are other ways to do this, such as hitting A on the controller, or... taking a spare drumstick and hitting the microphone like a cowbell.)
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** Drums: Llama again.
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** Drums: Llama again.again, and in more ways than one - 3-starring the song on Expert is a requirement for the Hall Of Fame Challenge setlist (on Expert) to be completeable. You also need a 250-note streak for another challenge. Expect to clear Guns of Summer before you get either of those two goals, even with judicious use of No-Fail.
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* ''Pluto the First'', a console boss now confirmed to be in DDR X2 arcade. Perhaps the only DDR song that is universally TOBed, sometimes for its erratic music, sometimes for its chaotic steps, and often for both. Its impact is worsened by the fact that, as of this writing, its only appearance is in a course, directly preceding another course-exclusive (Mei) that many DDR players have been eager to play for a very long time.
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* ''Pluto the First'', a console boss now confirmed to be in DDR X2 arcade. Perhaps the only DDR song that is universally TOBed, [[ThatOneBoss TOBed]], sometimes for its erratic music, sometimes for its chaotic steps, and often for both. Its impact is worsened by the fact that, as of this writing, its only appearance is in a course, directly preceding another course-exclusive (Mei) that many DDR players have been eager to play for a very long time.
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* ''Pluto the First'', a console boss now confirmed to be in DDR X2 arcade. Perhaps the only DDR song that is universally TOBed, sometimes for its erratic music, sometimes for its chaotic steps, and often for both. Its impact is worsened by the fact that, as of this writing, its only appearance is in a course, directly preceding another course-exclusive (Mei) that many DDR players have been eager to play for a very long time.
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[[folder:Dance Dance Revolution Series]]
* '''Any''' song from the original DanceDanceRevolution could qualify. Performing a GuitarHero 1 before the series was thought of, any time one put their foot on the arrows when there was no arrow there was considered a penalty. This made the hardest song, Paranoia, even harder to pass.
* The song ''Hero'', from ''2nd Mix'', featured mini-gallops after the chorus. It was a tricky pattern at the time.
* ''3rd Mix'' featured [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-0EIlNYiTc&fmt=18 In The Navy]]. This song, especially on the Maniac difficulty, taught many players to master the gallop steps.
* Any song that has a ''mislabeled'' difficulty rating can make things worse. ''Flashdance (What A Feeling)'' and ''End of the Century'' from 3rd Mix (both Maniac) were introduced as 8 footers out of 9 at the time. They might seem easy on a controller, but when one actually steps to the notes, these songs will brutally murder one's stamina, even if some time was spent practicing them.
** ''Supernova'' had this issue with ''Sunkiss Drop''. This was rated a 7, but did not feel like it.
** ''Crazy Control'' from the later home consoles was rated as both a 6 and a 10 at different points. Its true rating is more in the middle.
* ''DDR MAX'' had the secret boss song ''Max 300'' for those that earned an extra stage. It was the fastest chart at the time (at 300.1 BPM), a speed mod of 1.5x was applied for you, the arrows scrolled down instead of up, and any mistakes could not be fixed due to the lifebar not going up on successful combos.
* When ''DDR Supernova'' came out, ''Fascination [=MaxX=]'' was the new hardest canon DDR song. Some consider it to still be the hardest. That is just on Expert. Challenge has HardModeFiller in use, with the worst bits right at the beginning and end.
* ''DDR Supernova 2'' brings two of the currently three ''Pluto'' boss songs. Pluto does not use as many stops as Chaos, but it does not have a consistent BPM. It also does not make it easy for the player to tell when the song stops during the fast part. ''Pluto Relinquish'', originally found in the console versions, has been critically acclaimed as one of the hardest songs to date. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMzMzYEuGUU Observe.]]
* ''Hottest Party'' for the Wii is mostly not bad, but ''Super Samurai'' often becomes a stumbling block, especially to unlock the song. No speed mods in the game means one is forced to use 1x. The song does not flash its receptors to the beat at all times: this makes the quarter notes blue during the early and later stages of the song. This song can make one want to use a controller to unlock the song.
* Any song that contains the word '''Evolved''' in it. Not only are the songs hard to figure out, but one [[LuckBasedMission gets a different chart every playthrough]].
* ''Trigger'' from ''DDR X''. A lot of the speed changes in it are pretty unnecessary, and it features 8ths at 400 BPM. That might not be as bad as the shit 888 throws at you, but it's still not far behind.
** ''888'''s [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XxZtZ-_tgQ Challenge]] chart from ''Universe 3'' and ''DDR X2''. It has just over ''750'' steps (a normal boss song has about 500), of which most are 16th notes at 222 BPM.
* ''Valkyrie Dimension'', the final boss (?) of DDR X2. Just getting into the folder that has it is a pain in the ass, let alone unlocking the songs that are in it! You need to unlock and AA them all to get to this song. Of course, being forced to play it in sudden death mode doesn't really help, and just about everyone failed at the ending trills. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMDCnPXdZ8U&feature=related This is the closest anyone has ever gotten on video.]] Despite this, someone [[http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs337.ash2/61783_1316490007361_1684050120_630919_3249110_n.jpg finally]] passed it in September 2010.
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* '''Any''' song from the original DanceDanceRevolution could qualify. Performing a GuitarHero 1 before the series was thought of, any time one put their foot on the arrows when there was no arrow there was considered a penalty. This made the hardest song, Paranoia, even harder to pass.
* The song ''Hero'', from ''2nd Mix'', featured mini-gallops after the chorus. It was a tricky pattern at the time.
* ''3rd Mix'' featured [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-0EIlNYiTc&fmt=18 In The Navy]]. This song, especially on the Maniac difficulty, taught many players to master the gallop steps.
* Any song that has a ''mislabeled'' difficulty rating can make things worse. ''Flashdance (What A Feeling)'' and ''End of the Century'' from 3rd Mix (both Maniac) were introduced as 8 footers out of 9 at the time. They might seem easy on a controller, but when one actually steps to the notes, these songs will brutally murder one's stamina, even if some time was spent practicing them.
** ''Supernova'' had this issue with ''Sunkiss Drop''. This was rated a 7, but did not feel like it.
** ''Crazy Control'' from the later home consoles was rated as both a 6 and a 10 at different points. Its true rating is more in the middle.
* ''DDR MAX'' had the secret boss song ''Max 300'' for those that earned an extra stage. It was the fastest chart at the time (at 300.1 BPM), a speed mod of 1.5x was applied for you, the arrows scrolled down instead of up, and any mistakes could not be fixed due to the lifebar not going up on successful combos.
* When ''DDR Supernova'' came out, ''Fascination [=MaxX=]'' was the new hardest canon DDR song. Some consider it to still be the hardest. That is just on Expert. Challenge has HardModeFiller in use, with the worst bits right at the beginning and end.
* ''DDR Supernova 2'' brings two of the currently three ''Pluto'' boss songs. Pluto does not use as many stops as Chaos, but it does not have a consistent BPM. It also does not make it easy for the player to tell when the song stops during the fast part. ''Pluto Relinquish'', originally found in the console versions, has been critically acclaimed as one of the hardest songs to date. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMzMzYEuGUU Observe.]]
* ''Hottest Party'' for the Wii is mostly not bad, but ''Super Samurai'' often becomes a stumbling block, especially to unlock the song. No speed mods in the game means one is forced to use 1x. The song does not flash its receptors to the beat at all times: this makes the quarter notes blue during the early and later stages of the song. This song can make one want to use a controller to unlock the song.
* Any song that contains the word '''Evolved''' in it. Not only are the songs hard to figure out, but one [[LuckBasedMission gets a different chart every playthrough]].
* ''Trigger'' from ''DDR X''. A lot of the speed changes in it are pretty unnecessary, and it features 8ths at 400 BPM. That might not be as bad as the shit 888 throws at you, but it's still not far behind.
** ''888'''s [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XxZtZ-_tgQ Challenge]] chart from ''Universe 3'' and ''DDR X2''. It has just over ''750'' steps (a normal boss song has about 500), of which most are 16th notes at 222 BPM.
* ''Valkyrie Dimension'', the final boss (?) of DDR X2. Just getting into the folder that has it is a pain in the ass, let alone unlocking the songs that are in it! You need to unlock and AA them all to get to this song. Of course, being forced to play it in sudden death mode doesn't really help, and just about everyone failed at the ending trills. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMDCnPXdZ8U&feature=related This is the closest anyone has ever gotten on video.]] Despite this, someone [[http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs337.ash2/61783_1316490007361_1684050120_630919_3249110_n.jpg finally]] passed it in September 2010.
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* Say what you will about DanceDanceRevolution, but my sister and I had the hardest time unlocking SUPER SAMURAI in Hottest Party for the Wii. Forced 1x, makes this chart very hard to read. Finally, we resorted to using a controller to unlock the song. Needless to say, we learned to respect U.G. that day.
** In addition, many of the songs of DanceDanceRevolution easily qualify as boss songs, but many consider Fascination MaxX to be the hardest canon DDR song of all time. Just watch someone play. You'll see why.
*** And it sounds terrible. YourMileageMayVary though.
*** Ever since the release of Supernova 2, [=FaXX=] has been upstaged by Pluto Relinquish, critically acclaimed as the hardest song to date. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMzMzYEuGUU Observe.]]
** Pluto.
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-0EIlNYiTc&fmt=18 In The Navy (Maniac)]] from ''3rd Mix'' taught many players to master those "skip" steps.
*** Earlier than that is ''Hero'', from 2ndMix, which feature mini-gallops after the chorus.
** 888's Challenge chart from Universe 3. It has just over ''750'' steps (a normal boss song has about 500), of which most are 16th notes at 222 BPM.
** How about the ''mislabeled'' songs? Flashdance (What A Feeling) and End of the Century from 3rd Mix (both Maniac) and Sunkiss Drop from SuperNOVA? 8 feet for the first two and 7 for the latter. They might seem easy on a controller, but when you actually step to the notes, these songs will brutally murder your stamina, even if you've spent some time practicing them.
*** And Crazy Control. It's not a 10, sure, but it sure as hell isn't a 6 either.
** Valkyrie Dimension, the final boss (?) of DDR X2. Just getting into the folder that has it is a pain in the ass, let alone unlocking the songs that are in it! You need to unlock and AA them all to get to this song. Of course, being forced to play it in sudden death mode doesn't really help, and just about everyone failed at the ending trills. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMDCnPXdZ8U&feature=related This is the closest anyone has ever gotten on video.]] Despite this, someone [[http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs337.ash2/61783_1316490007361_1684050120_630919_3249110_n.jpg finally]] passed it in September 2010.
** Trigger. A lot of the speed changes in it are pretty unnecessary, and it features 8ths at 400 BPM. That might not be as bad as the shit 888 throws at you, but it's still not far behind.
** In addition, many of the songs of DanceDanceRevolution easily qualify as boss songs, but many consider Fascination MaxX to be the hardest canon DDR song of all time. Just watch someone play. You'll see why.
*** And it sounds terrible. YourMileageMayVary though.
*** Ever since the release of Supernova 2, [=FaXX=] has been upstaged by Pluto Relinquish, critically acclaimed as the hardest song to date. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMzMzYEuGUU Observe.]]
** Pluto.
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-0EIlNYiTc&fmt=18 In The Navy (Maniac)]] from ''3rd Mix'' taught many players to master those "skip" steps.
*** Earlier than that is ''Hero'', from 2ndMix, which feature mini-gallops after the chorus.
** 888's Challenge chart from Universe 3. It has just over ''750'' steps (a normal boss song has about 500), of which most are 16th notes at 222 BPM.
** How about the ''mislabeled'' songs? Flashdance (What A Feeling) and End of the Century from 3rd Mix (both Maniac) and Sunkiss Drop from SuperNOVA? 8 feet for the first two and 7 for the latter. They might seem easy on a controller, but when you actually step to the notes, these songs will brutally murder your stamina, even if you've spent some time practicing them.
*** And Crazy Control. It's not a 10, sure, but it sure as hell isn't a 6 either.
** Valkyrie Dimension, the final boss (?) of DDR X2. Just getting into the folder that has it is a pain in the ass, let alone unlocking the songs that are in it! You need to unlock and AA them all to get to this song. Of course, being forced to play it in sudden death mode doesn't really help, and just about everyone failed at the ending trills. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMDCnPXdZ8U&feature=related This is the closest anyone has ever gotten on video.]] Despite this, someone [[http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs337.ash2/61783_1316490007361_1684050120_630919_3249110_n.jpg finally]] passed it in September 2010.
** Trigger. A lot of the speed changes in it are pretty unnecessary, and it features 8ths at 400 BPM. That might not be as bad as the shit 888 throws at you, but it's still not far behind.
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'''NOTE:''' Due to how a majority of these RhythmGames work (mainly in that the player typically gets to pick their songs), looser definitions of BonusBoss are being applied for this section. Songs that can be expected to be played in any given session are perfectly fair game. Final Bosses should be compared to where the difficulty curve would put them before being listed, and bonus songs and DownloadableContent should be added sparingly. [[WakeUpCallBoss Wake Up Call Bosses]] should be fair game unless there is a particular reason why they must be done at/by a specific point (I.E. Career Mode in older GuitarHero games, etc.), in which case they should be strongly considered before addition to this page.
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'''NOTE:''' Due to how a majority of these RhythmGames work (mainly in that the player typically gets to pick their songs), looser definitions of BonusBoss are being applied for this section. Songs that can be expected to be played in any given session are perfectly fair game. Final Bosses should be compared to where the difficulty curve would put them before being listed, and bonus songs and DownloadableContent should be added sparingly. [[WakeUpCallBoss Wake Up Call Bosses]] should be fair game unless there is a particular reason why they must be done at/by a specific point (I.E. (e.g. Career Mode in older GuitarHero games, etc.), games), in which case they should be strongly considered before addition to this page.
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** Oh, and [[YouShouldKnowThisAlready Eruption]] [[{{Understatement}} is]] [[BeyondTheImpossible hard]]. Fortunately, it's a lot easier than Spanish Fly to get 1st place on the local scoreboard (65,000 points is a 3-star, mind you). Oh, and 5-starring all three solos and the song Little Guitars on Guitar-Expert is required for two different [[BraggingRightsReward achievements]], so have fun with that. (thankfully, Cathedral is VERY easy to FC, particularly on a Rock Band guitar)
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** Oh, and [[YouShouldKnowThisAlready [[spoiler: Eruption]] [[{{Understatement}} is]] [[BeyondTheImpossible hard]]. Fortunately, it's a lot easier than Spanish Fly to get 1st place on the local scoreboard (65,000 points is a 3-star, mind you). Oh, and 5-starring all three solos and the song Little Guitars on Guitar-Expert is required for two different [[BraggingRightsReward achievements]], so have fun with that. (thankfully, Cathedral is VERY easy to FC, particularly on a Rock Band guitar)
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* Rock Band 3 has quite a few. Let's start listing the big ones:
** Full Band: Take your pick between [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=097rXEgE_cY Roundabout]] (5 on vocals, 6 on everything else) and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzF5SqdONYk Llama]] ([[ThisIsGonnaSuck 6 on everything]])
** Drums: Llama again.
** Bass: Roundabout again.
** Guitar: Freebird, for reasons similar to why it's so damn hard in Guitar Hero 2.
** Keyboard: Roundabout yet again
** Vocals: jury's out on this one.
** Full Band: Take your pick between [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=097rXEgE_cY Roundabout]] (5 on vocals, 6 on everything else) and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzF5SqdONYk Llama]] ([[ThisIsGonnaSuck 6 on everything]])
** Drums: Llama again.
** Bass: Roundabout again.
** Guitar: Freebird, for reasons similar to why it's so damn hard in Guitar Hero 2.
** Keyboard: Roundabout yet again
** Vocals: jury's out on this one.
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** The Safari [Hyper] has stopped many a run of various IIDX [[KyuAndDanRanks 7-dan]] courses.
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** Trigger. A lot of the speed changes in it are pretty unnecessary, and it features 8ths at 400 BPM. That might not be as bad as the shit 888 throws at you, but it's still not far behind.
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*** Mendes [Kuro] and Flowers [Kuro]. That is all.
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* PumpItUp Fiesta Mission [=QH299=]. [http://www.[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfJtabSVP94&feature=related Seriously, just LOOK at it!]]
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** Full band, maybe, but Panic Attack's bass track makes Painkiller look like a warm-up in comparison. The song opens with the bass playing essentially the exact same riff as the guitar, only without the benefit of any sort of lead-in or percussion to help you keep track of the 5/4 timing, and just keeps getting worse from there.
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** Dragonforce's own lead guitarist has attempted this song. And failed.
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** Valkyrie Dimension, the final boss (?) of DDR X2. Just getting into the folder that has it is a pain in the ass, let alone unlocking the songs that are in it! You need to unlock and AA them all to get to this song. Did I mention '''nobody in the world has passed it yet?''' [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMDCnPXdZ8U&feature=related This is the closest anyone has ever gotten.]]
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** Valkyrie Dimension, the final boss (?) of DDR X2. Just getting into the folder that has it is a pain in the ass, let alone unlocking the songs that are in it! You need to unlock and AA them all to get to this song. Did I mention '''nobody Of course, being forced to play it in sudden death mode doesn't really help, and just about everyone failed at the world has passed it yet?''' ending trills. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMDCnPXdZ8U&feature=related This is the closest anyone has ever gotten.]]gotten on video.]] Despite this, someone [[http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs337.ash2/61783_1316490007361_1684050120_630919_3249110_n.jpg finally]] passed it in September 2010.
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**BonusBoss, because you can't fail it in Story Mode. Of course, you ''will'' fail it in Quickplay.
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** Valkyrie Dimension, the final boss (?) of DDR X2. Just getting into the folder that has it is a pain in the ass, let alone unlocking the songs that are in it! You need to unlock and AA them all to get to this song. Did I mention '''nobody in the world has passed it yet?''' [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuZGA8KsOHQ This is the closest anyone has ever gotten.]]
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** Valkyrie Dimension, the final boss (?) of DDR X2. Just getting into the folder that has it is a pain in the ass, let alone unlocking the songs that are in it! You need to unlock and AA them all to get to this song. Did I mention '''nobody in the world has passed it yet?''' [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuZGA8KsOHQ com/watch?v=YMDCnPXdZ8U&feature=related This is the closest anyone has ever gotten.]]
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** Two words: '''VALKYRIE. DIMENSION.''' It's even harder than [[BeyondTheImpossible Pluto Relinquish,]] for God's sake! Why? The chart is a nightmare, but I'm getting ahead of myself. Here's how to unlock it;
*** Step 1: Get a rank of Double A on 3 Expert songs in a row.
*** Step 2: Do the same with ALL 6 REPLICANT SONGS, which count as Extra Stages, so you can't miss more than 3 notes.
*** Step 3: Clear the song with a full combo.
*** ...Yeah. I can't even put the chart into words, especially considering ''nobody in the world has ever passed it yet.'' [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHEoQO0SLPc This is the closest anyone has ever gotten.]]
*** Step 1: Get a rank of Double A on 3 Expert songs in a row.
*** Step 2: Do the same with ALL 6 REPLICANT SONGS, which count as Extra Stages, so you can't miss more than 3 notes.
*** Step 3: Clear the song with a full combo.
*** ...Yeah. I can't even put the chart into words, especially considering ''nobody in the world has ever passed it yet.'' [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHEoQO0SLPc This is the closest anyone has ever gotten.]]
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** Two words: '''VALKYRIE. DIMENSION.''' It's even harder than [[BeyondTheImpossible Pluto Relinquish,]] for God's sake! Why? The chart is a nightmare, but I'm Valkyrie Dimension, the final boss (?) of DDR X2. Just getting ahead of myself. Here's how into the folder that has it is a pain in the ass, let alone unlocking the songs that are in it! You need to unlock it;
*** Step 1: Get a rank of Double A on 3 Expert songs in a row.
*** Step 2: Do the same with ALL 6 REPLICANT SONGS, which count as Extra Stages, so you can't miss more than 3 notes.
*** Step 3: Clear the song with a full combo.
*** ...Yeah.and AA them all to get to this song. Did I can't even put the chart into words, especially considering ''nobody mention '''nobody in the world has ever passed it yet.'' yet?''' [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHEoQO0SLPc com/watch?v=wuZGA8KsOHQ This is the closest anyone has ever gotten.]]
*** Step 1: Get a rank of Double A on 3 Expert songs in a row.
*** Step 2: Do the same with ALL 6 REPLICANT SONGS, which count as Extra Stages, so you can't miss more than 3 notes.
*** Step 3: Clear the song with a full combo.
*** ...Yeah.
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*** What ''really'' elevates that to That One Boss territory is that it's a piece of cake on Medium and really nothing special on Hard. This may qualify for the single biggest jump from Hard to Expert in Guitar Hero.
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*** What ''really'' elevates that to That One Boss territory is that it's a piece of cake on Medium and really nothing special on Hard. This may qualify for the single biggest jump from Hard to Expert in Guitar Hero. Oh, did I mention that it's the encore song of the ''second'' venue?
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* PumpItUp Fiesta Mission [=QH299=]. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfJtabSVP94&feature=related Seriously, just LOOK at it!]]
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I REALLY need to be more careful about where folders end. *facepalm*
* Any song with an "Insane" level in the {{Mungyodance}} series. The Destination series, Reasons To Live, Origin, and Chaos Theory come to mind.
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* Any song with an "Insane" level in the {{Mungyodance}} series. The Destination series, Reasons To Live, Origin, and Chaos Theory come to mind.
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** The Xbox 360 version of [=GH2=] was more balanced. Song order was heavily rearranged, for example "Freya" moved up to the sixth difficulty tier, "Psychobilly Freakout" had no change, and "Carry Me Home" Moved up to the eighth dificulty tier. Eight songs were added, six of which range from tier one to tier seven, and the last two are in the bonus setlist.
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** The Xbox 360 version of [=GH2=] was more balanced. Song order was heavily rearranged, for example "Freya" moved up from the fifth to the sixth difficulty tier, "Psychobilly Freakout" had no change, and "Carry Me Home" Moved up from the seventh to the eighth dificulty tier. Eight songs were added, added exclusively to the Xbox 360, six of which range from tier one to tier seven, and the last two are in the bonus setlist.setlist. Two of them in the main setlist are master recordings, while the other four are cover versions.
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* In the sequel ''GuitarHero II'', "Freya" got a lot of people stuck, as did fast country song "Psychobilly Freakout" and "Carry Me Home's" intro. And that's just the earlier sets! Last set has ridiculously fast "Misirlou", "Institutionalized's" discord, "Hangar 18's" endless solos, and "Free Bird's" very long sequences. "Free Bird", by the way, being a very long song that has an extended slow part at the beginning, can be dramatic to play. Failing at the 6th or 7th minute in can be expected.
** The Xbox 360 version of [=GH2=] was more balanced. Song order was heavily rearranged, for example "Freya" moved up to the sixth difficulty tier, "Psychobilly Freakout" had no change, And "Carry Me Home" Moved up to the eighth dificulty tier. Eight songs were added, many of which are in the lower tiers.
** The Xbox 360 version of [=GH2=] was more balanced. Song order was heavily rearranged, for example "Freya" moved up to the sixth difficulty tier, "Psychobilly Freakout" had no change, And "Carry Me Home" Moved up to the eighth dificulty tier. Eight songs were added, many of which are in the lower tiers.
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* In the sequel ''GuitarHero II'', "Freya" got a lot of people stuck, as did fast country song "Psychobilly Freakout" and "Carry Me Home's" intro. And that's just the earlier sets! Last set has ridiculously fast "Misirlou", "Institutionalized's" discord, "Hangar 18's" endless Nine solos, and "Free Bird's" very long sequences. "Free Bird", by the way, being a very long song that has an extended slow part at the beginning, can be dramatic to play. Failing at the 6th or 7th minute in can be expected.
** The Xbox 360 version of [=GH2=] was more balanced. Song order was heavily rearranged, for example "Freya" moved up to the sixth difficulty tier, "Psychobilly Freakout" had no change,And and "Carry Me Home" Moved up to the eighth dificulty tier. Eight songs were added, many six of which range from tier one to tier seven, and the last two are in the lower tiers.bonus setlist.
** The Xbox 360 version of [=GH2=] was more balanced. Song order was heavily rearranged, for example "Freya" moved up to the sixth difficulty tier, "Psychobilly Freakout" had no change,
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* Hello? [[{{Dragonforce}} Through The Fires And Flames]]? Bonus song in Legends of Rock? Eight minutes of torture? The number of people to ace it on expert can be counted on one hand? Ring a bell?
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** The Xbox 360 version of [=GH2=] was more balanced. Song order was heavily rearranged, notably for example "Freya" and moved up to the sixth difficulty tier, "Psychobilly Freakout" had no change, but And "Carry Me Home" moved Moved up to the eighth difficulty dificulty tier. Eight songs were added, many of which are in the lower tiers.
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*** And Crazy Control. It's not a 10, sure, but it sure as hell isn't a 6 either.
** Two words: '''VALKYRIE. DIMENSION.''' It's even harder than [[BeyondTheImpossible Pluto Relinquish,]] for God's sake! Why? The chart is a nightmare, but I'm getting ahead of myself. Here's how to unlock it;
*** Step 1: Get a rank of Double A on 3 Expert songs in a row.
*** Step 2: Do the same with ALL 6 REPLICANT SONGS, which count as Extra Stages, so you can't miss more than 3 notes.
*** Step 3: Clear the song with a full combo.
*** ...Yeah. I can't even put the chart into words, especially considering ''nobody in the world has ever passed it yet.'' [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHEoQO0SLPc This is the closest anyone has ever gotten.]]
** Two words: '''VALKYRIE. DIMENSION.''' It's even harder than [[BeyondTheImpossible Pluto Relinquish,]] for God's sake! Why? The chart is a nightmare, but I'm getting ahead of myself. Here's how to unlock it;
*** Step 1: Get a rank of Double A on 3 Expert songs in a row.
*** Step 2: Do the same with ALL 6 REPLICANT SONGS, which count as Extra Stages, so you can't miss more than 3 notes.
*** Step 3: Clear the song with a full combo.
*** ...Yeah. I can't even put the chart into words, especially considering ''nobody in the world has ever passed it yet.'' [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHEoQO0SLPc This is the closest anyone has ever gotten.]]
