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* The crossover DLC has [[VideoGame/SplinterCell Sam Fisher]] realizing he is the last member of the covert op old guard, as [[LawyerFriendlyCameo an unseen character meant to refer to Snake from]] ''VideoGame/MetalGear'' retired. While it's presented as a gag, his reaction is of genuine sadness. Sam's reaction to hearing the news has more weight with this in mind; it really is just him now. Not to mention he's older than in the past games, meaning it's possible his own time may come to a close soon.

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* The crossover DLC has [[VideoGame/SplinterCell Sam Fisher]] realizing he is the last member of the covert op old guard, as [[LawyerFriendlyCameo an unseen character meant to refer to Snake from]] ''VideoGame/MetalGear'' retired. (This can be seen as a reference to Hideo Kojima getting unceremoniously fired by Konami, effectively killing the Metal Gear franchise.) While it's presented as a gag, his reaction is of genuine sadness. Sam's reaction to hearing the news has more weight with this in mind; it really is just him now. Not to mention he's older than in the past games, meaning it's possible his own time may come to a close soon.



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* The crossover DLC has [[VideoGame/SplinterCell Sam Fisher]] realizing he is the last member of the covert op old guard, as [[LawyerFriendlyCameo an unseen character meant to refer to Snake from]] ''VideoGame/MetalGear'' retired. While it's presented as a meta gag, his reaction is of genuine sadness, and ''Metal Gear'' fans in the audience felt the same way. It gets even sadder when you remember that ''VideoGame/SyphonFilter'' had ended years earlier. ''VideoGame/MetalGear'', ''VideoGame/SyphonFilter'' and ''VideoGame/SplinterCell'' were all seen as the trio of stealth-action games in their prime, but ''Syphon Filter'' went first, then ''Metal Gear'' lost Creator/HideoKojima and had [[VideoGame/MetalGearSurvive its newer installments]] be met with much backlash, with fans saying ''Metal Gear'' as it once was is no more. Sam's reaction to hearing the news has more weight with this in mind; it really is just him now. Not to mention he's older than in the past games, meaning it's possible his own time may come to a close soon.

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* The crossover DLC has [[VideoGame/SplinterCell Sam Fisher]] realizing he is the last member of the covert op old guard, as [[LawyerFriendlyCameo an unseen character meant to refer to Snake from]] ''VideoGame/MetalGear'' retired. While it's presented as a meta gag, his reaction is of genuine sadness, and ''Metal Gear'' fans in the audience felt the same way. It gets even sadder when you remember that ''VideoGame/SyphonFilter'' had ended years earlier. ''VideoGame/MetalGear'', ''VideoGame/SyphonFilter'' and ''VideoGame/SplinterCell'' were all seen as the trio of stealth-action games in their prime, but ''Syphon Filter'' went first, then ''Metal Gear'' lost Creator/HideoKojima and had [[VideoGame/MetalGearSurvive its newer installments]] be met with much backlash, with fans saying ''Metal Gear'' as it once was is no more.sadness. Sam's reaction to hearing the news has more weight with this in mind; it really is just him now. Not to mention he's older than in the past games, meaning it's possible his own time may come to a close soon.



** Especially since they brought back Creator/MichaelIronside, making the comment even more poignant, since it truly is the original Sam Fisher mourning the loss, and if you remember that Creator/DavidHayter wasn't brought back to voice Snake in the last two Kojima made Metal Gears.

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** Especially since they brought back Creator/MichaelIronside, making the comment even more poignant, since it truly is the original Sam Fisher mourning the loss, and if you remember that Creator/DavidHayter wasn't brought back to voice Snake in the last two Kojima made Metal Gears.
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* El Gringa's entire story. Misused by the CIA and forced to work for the cartel, she tries to do a bit of good with the rebels then is captured by the Ghosts. Karen Bowman takes an immediate and ''immense'' dislike to her, threatening her with PrisonRape. While she manages to survive the cartel's retribution, her fate is unlikely to be a good one.

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* El La Gringa's entire story. Misused by the CIA and forced to work for the cartel, she tries to do a bit of good with the rebels then is captured by the Ghosts. Karen Bowman takes an immediate and ''immense'' dislike to her, threatening her with PrisonRape. While she manages to survive the cartel's retribution, her fate is unlikely to be a good one.
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** Especially since they brought back Creator/MichaelIronside, making the comment even more poignant, since it truly is the original Sam Fisher mourning the loss, and if you remember that Creator/DavidHayter wasn't brought back to voice Snake in the last two Kojima made Metal Gears.
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* The crossover DLC has Sam realizing he is the last member of the covert op old guard, as [[LawyerFriendlyCameo an unseen character meant to refer to Snake from]] ''VideoGame/MetalGear'' retired. While it's presented as a meta gag, his reaction is of genuine sadness, and ''Metal Gear'' fans in the audience felt the same way. It gets even sadder when you remember that ''VideoGame/SyphonFilter'' had ended years earlier. ''VideoGame/MetalGear'', ''VideoGame/SyphonFilter'' and ''VideoGame/SplinterCell'' were all seen as the trio of stealth-action games in their prime, but ''Syphon Filter'' went first, then ''Metal Gear'' lost Creator/HideoKojima and had [[VideoGame/MetalGearSurvive its newer installments]] be met with much backlash, with fans saying ''Metal Gear'' as it once was is no more. Sam's reaction to hearing the news has more weight with this in mind; it really is just him now. Not to mention he's older than in the past games, meaning it's possible his own time may come to a close soon.

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* The crossover DLC has [[VideoGame/SplinterCell Sam Fisher]] realizing he is the last member of the covert op old guard, as [[LawyerFriendlyCameo an unseen character meant to refer to Snake from]] ''VideoGame/MetalGear'' retired. While it's presented as a meta gag, his reaction is of genuine sadness, and ''Metal Gear'' fans in the audience felt the same way. It gets even sadder when you remember that ''VideoGame/SyphonFilter'' had ended years earlier. ''VideoGame/MetalGear'', ''VideoGame/SyphonFilter'' and ''VideoGame/SplinterCell'' were all seen as the trio of stealth-action games in their prime, but ''Syphon Filter'' went first, then ''Metal Gear'' lost Creator/HideoKojima and had [[VideoGame/MetalGearSurvive its newer installments]] be met with much backlash, with fans saying ''Metal Gear'' as it once was is no more. Sam's reaction to hearing the news has more weight with this in mind; it really is just him now. Not to mention he's older than in the past games, meaning it's possible his own time may come to a close soon.
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* El Boquita is a ruthless Santa Blanca underboss who has been trafficking since he was a child. However, it's hard not to feel for the guy as while you're tailing him, he makes a phone call to his daughter and says how much he loves her as well as the fact she can have a puppy when he gets back from delivering billions in cash to Mexico. This is {{Retirony}} for him as you're promptly given orders to execute him. He manages to survive [[spoiler: only for Nidia, his one true love, to cut his head off in a failed attempt to placate El Sueno.]]
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-->'''Karen''':You look like you've clocked a few miles since we last spoke.
-->'''Sam''':Yeah a few, I've heard they don't make them like me anymore.
-->({{Beat}})
-->'''Sam''': There was this other guy though, Army infiltration, he wore...a bandanna or something.
-->'''Karen''':(''nods'') I heard he finally retired.
-->'''Sam''': (''skeptically'') Really?
-->'''Karen''':(''curtly'') Yup.
-->'''Sam''': (''utterly crestfallen'') [[TheLastOfHisKind Then it's only me...]]
-->(long beat as Sam [[ThousandYardStare stares painfully into space]])
-->'''Karen''': Sam?
-->'''Sam''': Yeah...

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\n-->'''Karen''':You look like you've clocked a few miles since we last spoke.
-->'''Sam''':Yeah
spoke.\\
'''Sam''':Yeah
a few, I've heard they don't make them like me anymore.
-->({{Beat}})
-->'''Sam''':
anymore.\\
({{Beat}})\\
'''Sam''':
There was this other guy though, Army infiltration, he wore...a bandanna or something.
-->'''Karen''':(''nods'')
something.\\
'''Karen''':(''nods'')
I heard he finally retired.
-->'''Sam''':
retired.\\
'''Sam''':
(''skeptically'') Really?
-->'''Karen''':(''curtly'') Yup.
-->'''Sam''':
Really?\\
'''Karen''':(''curtly'') Yup.\\
'''Sam''':
(''utterly crestfallen'') [[TheLastOfHisKind Then it's only me...]]
-->(long
]]\\
(long
beat as Sam [[ThousandYardStare stares painfully into space]])
-->'''Karen''': Sam?
-->'''Sam''':
space]])\\
'''Karen''': Sam?\\
'''Sam''':
Yeah...

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* After completing Operation Watchman, [[spoiler: [[VideoGame/SplinterCell Sam Fisher]]]] is debriefed by Bowman and quips that [[TheyDontMakeThemLikeTheyUsedTo they don't make them like him anymore]] save for one [[Franchise/MetalGear "Army Infiltration guy who wore a bandana".]] Bowman then informs him that said guy retired, which [[spoiler: Sam]] seems rather skeptical initially, but comes to a sad realization once Bowman confirms it. The tone of his voice and the accompanying thousand-yard stare right after is just heartbreaking. Ubisoft might have screwed up a lot when it comes to their games and customer relations, but you gotta give credit to them for giving one last shoutout to one of the greatest and iconic stealth game protagonists' [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain last hurrah.]]
-->'''[[spoiler: Sam]]:''' [[TheLastOfHisKind Then it's only me...]]

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* After completing Operation Watchman, [[spoiler: [[VideoGame/SplinterCell The crossover DLC has Sam Fisher]]]] realizing he is debriefed by Bowman the last member of the covert op old guard, as [[LawyerFriendlyCameo an unseen character meant to refer to Snake from]] ''VideoGame/MetalGear'' retired. While it's presented as a meta gag, his reaction is of genuine sadness, and quips ''Metal Gear'' fans in the audience felt the same way. It gets even sadder when you remember that [[TheyDontMakeThemLikeTheyUsedTo ''VideoGame/SyphonFilter'' had ended years earlier. ''VideoGame/MetalGear'', ''VideoGame/SyphonFilter'' and ''VideoGame/SplinterCell'' were all seen as the trio of stealth-action games in their prime, but ''Syphon Filter'' went first, then ''Metal Gear'' lost Creator/HideoKojima and had [[VideoGame/MetalGearSurvive its newer installments]] be met with much backlash, with fans saying ''Metal Gear'' as it once was is no more. Sam's reaction to hearing the news has more weight with this in mind; it really is just him now. Not to mention he's older than in the past games, meaning it's possible his own time may come to a close soon.

-->'''Karen''':You look like you've clocked a few miles since we last spoke.
-->'''Sam''':Yeah a few, I've heard
they don't make them like him anymore]] save for one [[Franchise/MetalGear "Army Infiltration me anymore.
-->({{Beat}})
-->'''Sam''': There was this other
guy who wore though, Army infiltration, he wore...a bandana".]] Bowman then informs him that said guy retired, which [[spoiler: Sam]] seems rather skeptical initially, but comes to a sad realization once Bowman confirms it. The tone of his voice and the accompanying thousand-yard stare right after is just heartbreaking. Ubisoft might have screwed up a lot when it comes to their games and customer relations, but you gotta give credit to them for giving one last shoutout to one of the greatest and iconic stealth game protagonists' [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain last hurrah.bandanna or something.
-->'''Karen''':(''nods'') I heard he finally retired.
-->'''Sam''': (''skeptically'') Really?
-->'''Karen''':(''curtly'') Yup.
-->'''Sam''': (''utterly crestfallen'') [[TheLastOfHisKind Then it's only me...
]]
-->'''[[spoiler: Sam]]:''' [[TheLastOfHisKind Then it's only me...]]
-->(long beat as Sam [[ThousandYardStare stares painfully into space]])
-->'''Karen''': Sam?
-->'''Sam''': Yeah...
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* After completing Operation Watchman, [[spoiler: [[VideoGame/SplinterCell Sam Fisher]]]] is debriefed by Bowman and quips that [[TheyDontMakeThemLikeTheyUsedTo they don't make them like him anymore]] save for one [[Franchise/MetalGear "Army Infiltration guy who wore a bandana".]] Bowman then informs him that said guy retired, which [[spoiler: Sam]] seems rather skeptical initially, but comes to a sad realization once Bowman confirms it. The tone of his voice and the accompanying thousand-yard stare right after is just heartbreaking. Ubisoft might have screwed up a lot when it comes to their games and customer relations, but you gotta give credit to them for giving one last shoutout to one of the greatest and iconic stealth game protagonist's [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain last hurrah.]]

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* After completing Operation Watchman, [[spoiler: [[VideoGame/SplinterCell Sam Fisher]]]] is debriefed by Bowman and quips that [[TheyDontMakeThemLikeTheyUsedTo they don't make them like him anymore]] save for one [[Franchise/MetalGear "Army Infiltration guy who wore a bandana".]] Bowman then informs him that said guy retired, which [[spoiler: Sam]] seems rather skeptical initially, but comes to a sad realization once Bowman confirms it. The tone of his voice and the accompanying thousand-yard stare right after is just heartbreaking. Ubisoft might have screwed up a lot when it comes to their games and customer relations, but you gotta give credit to them for giving one last shoutout to one of the greatest and iconic stealth game protagonist's protagonists' [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain last hurrah.]]
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* After completing Operation Watchman, [[spoiler: [[VideoGame/SplinterCell Sam Fisher]]]]is debriefed by Bowman and quips that [[TheyDontMakeThemLikeTheyUsedTo they don't make them like him anymore]] save for one [[Franchise/MetalGear "Army Infiltration guy who wore a bandana".]] Bowman then informs him that said guy retired, which [[spoiler: Sam]]seems rather skeptical initially, but comes to a sad realization once Bowman confirms it. The tone of his voice and the accompanying thousand-yard stare right after is just heartbreaking. Ubisoft might have screwed up a lot when it comes to their games and customer relations, but you gotta give credit to them for giving one last shoutout to one of the greatest and iconic stealth game protagonist's [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain last hurrah.]]

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* After completing Operation Watchman, [[spoiler: [[VideoGame/SplinterCell Sam Fisher]]]]is Fisher]]]] is debriefed by Bowman and quips that [[TheyDontMakeThemLikeTheyUsedTo they don't make them like him anymore]] save for one [[Franchise/MetalGear "Army Infiltration guy who wore a bandana".]] Bowman then informs him that said guy retired, which [[spoiler: Sam]]seems Sam]] seems rather skeptical initially, but comes to a sad realization once Bowman confirms it. The tone of his voice and the accompanying thousand-yard stare right after is just heartbreaking. Ubisoft might have screwed up a lot when it comes to their games and customer relations, but you gotta give credit to them for giving one last shoutout to one of the greatest and iconic stealth game protagonist's [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain last hurrah.]]

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*After completing Operation Watchman, [[spoiler: [[VideoGame/SplinterCell Sam Fisher]]]]is debriefed by Bowman and quips that [[TheyDontMakeThemLikeTheyUsedTo they don't make them like him anymore]] save for one [[Franchise/MetalGear "Army Infiltration guy who wore a bandana".]] Bowman then informs him that said guy retired, which [[spoiler: Sam]]seems rather skeptical initially, but comes to a sad realization once Bowman confirms it. The tone of his voice and the accompanying thousand-yard stare right after is just heartbreaking. Ubisoft might have screwed up a lot when it comes to their games and customer relations, but you gotta give credit to them for giving one last shoutout to one of the greatest and iconic stealth game protagonist's [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain last hurrah.]]
-->'''[[spoiler: Sam]]:''' [[TheLastOfHisKind Then it's only me...]]
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* El Gringa's entire story. Misused by the CIA and forced to work for the cartel, she tries to do a bit of good with the rebels then is captured by the Ghosts. Karen Bowman takes an immediate and ''immense'' dislike to her, threatening her with PrisonRape. While she manages to survive the cartel's retribution, her fate is unlikely to be a good one.
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* The story of Gonzalo "El Emisario" Yana where he is the deeply devoted to his grandfather, El Yayo and would do anything to please him. The Ghosts proceed to decimate the cartel's production and plan to {{Blackmail}} him into turning on his grandfather. [[spoiler: Instead, Gonzalo is DrivenToSuicide as he had UndyingLoyalty to his grandfather preferred death to offending him. Worse, it does nothing and El Yayo is forced to pick up the slack.]]
* The "Good Ending" of the game [[spoiler: where El Sueno is given full immunity for his crimes in exchange for his cooperation against the other cartels and terrorist organizations. He is then going to be "cut loose" and start all over again. It renders all of the sacrifices and deaths in the story largely pointless.]]
** [[spoiler: A more personally tragic version happens in the "bad" ending with Agent Bowman, predicting the above, executes El Sueno and is arrested for murder.]]
* The revelation Ricky Sandoval [[spoiler: is behind the embassy attack. He framed the cartel and got himself tortured to death in order to get the American government to intervene in Bolivia's situation.]]

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