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* Greg being forced to spend the entirety of season 2 repressing his homosexuality, and the emotional turmoil it clearly puts him through, is mostly played for BlackComedy. Him finally gaining the courage to come out to his oblivious wife Ginny, only for her to tearfully tell him to "stop being silly," is [[BlackComedyBurst not. At all.]]

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* Greg being forced to spend the entirety of season Season 2 repressing his homosexuality, and the emotional turmoil it clearly puts him through, is mostly played for BlackComedy. Him finally gaining the courage to come out to his oblivious wife Ginny, only for her to tearfully tell him to "stop being silly," is [[BlackComedyBurst not. At all.]]



* While watching a home movie filmed during the early 60's, Frank and Sue reminisce about the early days of their family and the good times they had with their neighbors when they first moved in. Younger versions of their current neighbors appear in the film, with one exception, a man who's never been seen by the audience before, but is shown as the life of the party.

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* While watching a home movie filmed during the early 60's, '60s, Frank and Sue reminisce about the early days of their family and the good times they had with their neighbors when they first moved in. Younger versions of their current neighbors appear in the film, with one exception, a man who's never been seen by the audience before, but is shown as the life of the party.



* Frank's father, Big Bill, having a massive JerkassRealization in the season 4 finale. It causes him to cry after realizing that it's ''his fault'' for Frank being so messed up.
* Sue's father, Stan, in season 4 telling the tale of his first love, Sophie:

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* Frank's father, Big Bill, having a massive JerkassRealization in the season Season 4 finale. It causes him to cry after realizing that it's ''his fault'' for Frank being so messed up.
* Sue's father, Stan, in season Season 4 telling the tale of his first love, Sophie:



* The way season 4 ends full stop. Frank's new daughter is born and is introduced to the rest of the family. He wants to introduce her to his father whom he finally wants to properly reconcile and just when Frank is introducing her, his father has a heart attack then and there. Frank calls out to him and the episode, and the season, just end...

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* The way season Season 4 ends full stop. Frank's new daughter is born and is introduced to the rest of the family. He wants to introduce her to his father whom he finally wants to properly reconcile and just when Frank is introducing her, his father has a heart attack then and there. Frank calls out to him and the episode, and the season, just end...



* The last few minutes of the GrandFinale in Season 5; Frank finally discovers that his fathers last words to him, "Box 16", wasn't some revelation that would have fixed all the pain and misery between them. Frank had simply misheard Big Bill's final, and most likely delirious, final words - it was actually "Bach 16", aka [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZKif28jMUg Prelude In Fugue And G Minor Nr.16]] by Johann Sebastian Bach, which had been Big Bill's favorite piece of music because part of it had been used as a jingle for White House Beer in the 1930's. Frank finally accepts that he's never going to find the meaning and closure he'd been hoping for, and does one last favor for his father before leaving his memory behind forever: playing the tune on a tape in front of Big Bill's grave.

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* The last few minutes of the GrandFinale in Season 5; Frank finally discovers that his fathers last words to him, "Box 16", wasn't some revelation that would have fixed all the pain and misery between them. Frank had simply misheard Big Bill's final, and most likely delirious, final words - it was actually "Bach 16", aka [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZKif28jMUg Prelude In Fugue And G Minor Nr.16]] by Johann Sebastian Bach, which had been Big Bill's favorite piece of music because part of it had been used as a jingle for White House Beer in the 1930's.1930s. Frank finally accepts that he's never going to find the meaning and closure he'd been hoping for, and does one last favor for his father before leaving his memory behind forever: playing the tune on a tape in front of Big Bill's grave.
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** There's also how Stan basically admits that while he does love Marilyn, he's no ''truly'' in love with her. Heck, given how he words, Marilyn might not even be his SecondLove. Given the dialogue, it's hinted that one of the reasons (or even the main reason) he married her was because she was the "right" type of girl his father would approve of.
* Maureen's utter humiliation when the school play is ruined due to her father and grandfather's fighting just as the second half of the play has begun. Prior to that, Frank and Bill seemed to have mended fences with each other after Big Bill gives Frank a hug that he never received as a child. Obviously, Sue (and the audience) worry that it will not last as, in her words, "one hug doesn't make everything better." And just as expected, Frank's resentment at his father for being unable to own up to his mistakes comes up at the worst time possible during the school play's intermission, culminating in Frank punching his elderly father in front of his family and the audience, shocking everyone in the room [[EvenEvilHasStandards (including a disgusted]] ReactionShot [[EvenEvilHasStandards from]] ''[[EnfantTerrible Bridget]]'', [[EvenEvilHasStandards of all people).]] Maureen is so mortified by it, she runs off the stage in tears. Heartbroken, she refuses to let her father talk to her when he tries to comfort her later that night.

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** There's also how Stan basically admits that while he does love Marilyn, he's no not ''truly'' in love with her. Heck, given how he words, words it, Marilyn might not even be his SecondLove. Given the dialogue, it's hinted that one of the reasons (or even the main reason) he married her was because she was the "right" type of girl his father would approve of.
* Maureen's utter humiliation when the school play is ruined due to her father and grandfather's fighting just as the second half of the play has begun. Prior to that, Frank and Bill seemed to have mended fences with each other after Big Bill gives Frank a hug that he never received as a child. Obviously, Sue (and the audience) worry that it will not last as, in her words, "one hug doesn't make everything better." And just as expected, Frank's resentment at his father for being unable to own up to his mistakes comes up at the worst time possible during the school play's intermission, culminating in Frank punching his elderly father in front of his family and the audience, shocking everyone in the room [[EvenEvilHasStandards (including a disgusted]] ReactionShot [[EvenEvilHasStandards from]] ''[[EnfantTerrible Bridget]]'', [[EvenEvilHasStandards of all people).]] people)]]. Maureen is so mortified by it, she runs off the stage in tears. Heartbroken, she refuses to let her father talk to her when he tries to comfort her later that night.
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** There's also how Stan basically admits that while he does love Marilyn, he's no ''truly'' in love with her. Heck, given how he words, Marilyn might not even be his SecondLove. Given the dialogue, it's hinted that one of the reasons (or even the main reason) he married her was because she was the "right" type of girl his father would approve of.
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** And then, possibly to avoid looking vulnerable in front of his hated son-in-law, Stan says that despite all of that, he is still grateful to his father for looking out him, and that he wished he had done the same for Sue. Any possible bond between them ruined, Frank tells him to get the fuck out.

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** And then, possibly to avoid looking vulnerable in front of his hated son-in-law, Stan says that despite all of that, he is still grateful to his father for looking out him, and that he wished he had done the same for Sue. Any possible bond between them ruined, Frank tells him (in an exceedingly rare moment of TranquilFury) to get the fuck out.
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--> '''Frank''': Merry Christmas, Dad. *tosses the tape on the grave* We're done.

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--> '''Frank''': '''Frank:''' Merry Christmas, Dad. *tosses ''[tosses the tape on the grave* grave]'' We're done.
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* Ginny abandons her family to go to California with Frank's sister.
--> "I left a note for the boys under the Christmas tree. They're Greg's problem now."

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* Sue's father in season 4 telling the tale of his first love, Sophie. Sophie's father, through misunderstanding, hit Sophie who fell down the stairs and she died. What really hits hard is that Sue's father still doesn't hate his father, but rather believes that his father did the right thing by stopping him from falling in love with a person he really did love but in reality, the event was abusive and traumatizing, but he can't look at his father like he was the failure. The kicker is that he says he wished he'd done the same thing to Frank.

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* Sue's father father, Stan, in season 4 telling the tale of his first love, Sophie:
--> '''Stan:''' Sue's mother is a wonderful woman, but she wasn't the love of my life. That was a girl named
Sophie. I was head over heels about her. But my father didn't approve. She wasn't the right kind of girl for me, you see? My father had a friend on the police force, and he got this cop to plant some stolen property in Sophie's father, through misunderstanding, handbag. Y'know, so i'd see she wasn't a good girl? When her father found out about it, he hit Sophie who her. And she fell down the a flight of stairs and she died. What really hits hard is I was 17 years old.
** And then, possibly to avoid looking vulnerable in front of his hated son-in-law, Stan says
that Sue's father despite all of that, he is still doesn't hate his father, but rather believes that grateful to his father did the right thing by stopping him from falling in love with a person he really did love but in reality, the event was abusive for looking out him, and traumatizing, but he can't look at his father like he was the failure. The kicker is that he says he wished he'd he had done the same thing for Sue. Any possible bond between them ruined, Frank tells him to Frank.get the fuck out.
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* Maureen's utter humiliation when the school play is ruined due to her father and grandfather's fighting just as the second half of the play has begun. Prior to that, Frank and Bill seemed to have mended fences with each other after Big Bill gives Frank a hug that he never received as a child. Obviously, Sue (and the audience) worry that it will not last as, in her words, "one hug doesn't make everything better." And just as expected, Frank's resentment at his father for being unable to own up to his mistakes comes up at the worst time possible during the school play's intermission, culminating in Frank punching his elderly father in front of his family and the audience, shocking everyone in the room [[EvenEvilHasStandards (including a disgusted]] ReactionShot [[EvenEvilHasStandards from]] ''[[EnfantTerrible Bridget]]'', [[EvenEvilHasStandards of all people).]] Maureen is so mortified by it, she runs off the stage in tears. Heartbroken, she refuses to let her father talk to her when he tried to comfort her later that night.

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* Maureen's utter humiliation when the school play is ruined due to her father and grandfather's fighting just as the second half of the play has begun. Prior to that, Frank and Bill seemed to have mended fences with each other after Big Bill gives Frank a hug that he never received as a child. Obviously, Sue (and the audience) worry that it will not last as, in her words, "one hug doesn't make everything better." And just as expected, Frank's resentment at his father for being unable to own up to his mistakes comes up at the worst time possible during the school play's intermission, culminating in Frank punching his elderly father in front of his family and the audience, shocking everyone in the room [[EvenEvilHasStandards (including a disgusted]] ReactionShot [[EvenEvilHasStandards from]] ''[[EnfantTerrible Bridget]]'', [[EvenEvilHasStandards of all people).]] Maureen is so mortified by it, she runs off the stage in tears. Heartbroken, she refuses to let her father talk to her when he tried tries to comfort her later that night.
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* Maureen's utter humiliation when the school play is ruined due to her father and grandfather's fighting just as the second half of the play has begun. Prior to that, Frank and Bill seemed to have mended fences with each other after Big Bill gives Frank a hug that he never received as a child. Obviously, Sue (and the audience) worry that it will not last as, in her words, "not everything can be solved with one hug." And just as expected, Frank's resentment at his father for being unable to own up to his mistakes comes up at the worst time possible during the school play's intermission, culminating in Frank punching his elderly father in front of his family and the audience, shocking everyone in the room [[EvenEvilHasStandards (including a disgusted]] ReactionShot [[EvenEvilHasStandards from]] ''[[EnfantTerrible Bridget]]'', [[EvenEvilHasStandards of all people).]] Maureen is so mortified by it, she runs off the stage in tears. Heartbroken, she refuses to let her father talk to her when he tried to comfort her later that night.

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* Maureen's utter humiliation when the school play is ruined due to her father and grandfather's fighting just as the second half of the play has begun. Prior to that, Frank and Bill seemed to have mended fences with each other after Big Bill gives Frank a hug that he never received as a child. Obviously, Sue (and the audience) worry that it will not last as, in her words, "not "one hug doesn't make everything can be solved with one hug.better." And just as expected, Frank's resentment at his father for being unable to own up to his mistakes comes up at the worst time possible during the school play's intermission, culminating in Frank punching his elderly father in front of his family and the audience, shocking everyone in the room [[EvenEvilHasStandards (including a disgusted]] ReactionShot [[EvenEvilHasStandards from]] ''[[EnfantTerrible Bridget]]'', [[EvenEvilHasStandards of all people).]] Maureen is so mortified by it, she runs off the stage in tears. Heartbroken, she refuses to let her father talk to her when he tried to comfort her later that night.
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* A brief, subtle moment during the Thanksgiving montage shows Ed having his Thanksgiving dinner, which is a packaged in-flight airline turkey dinner. He's eating it in the airport employee break room, alone. Though he seems to be eating it with his usual smiling alacrity, a close-up shows a single tear escaping from his eye, indicating that he is feeling lonely.
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* After Big Bill's funeral, Maureen celebrates her birthday at the bowling alley. However, Frank learns that his father ordered two fancy bowling balls for the two to use in a father son bowling league from the cashier, causing Frank to start mourning his father all over again.

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