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* The FallenHero vibe at the end of the game when Shay tells [[spoiler: a dying Charles Dorian]] that the Templars will [[spoiler: engineer their own revolution]]. Shay was driven to join the Templars because his work as an Assassin caused him to unwittingly [[spoiler: cause the deaths of thousands in the Lisbon earthquake]], but twenty years of membership in the Templar Order have now corrupted him so thoroughly that he's ready, willing, and able to [[spoiler: help kickstart the Reign of Terror]] just so the Templars can undo some of the damage Connor did to them in III. For someone who once questioned the point of the unending conflict between Assassin and Templar, seeing Shay fall to such a degree is indeed depressing. He's now perfectly content to perpetuate the cycle instead of seeking to end it.

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* The FallenHero vibe at the end of the game when Shay tells [[spoiler: a dying Charles Dorian]] that the Templars will [[spoiler: engineer their own revolution]]. Shay was driven to join the Templars because his work as an Assassin caused him to unwittingly [[spoiler: cause the deaths of thousands in the Lisbon earthquake]], but twenty years of membership in the Templar Order have now corrupted him so thoroughly that he's ready, willing, and able to [[spoiler: help kickstart the Reign of Terror]] just so the Templars can undo some of the damage Connor did to them in III. For someone who once questioned the point of the unending conflict between Assassin and Templar, seeing Shay fall to such a degree is indeed depressing. He's now perfectly content to perpetuate the cycle instead of seeking to end it.it.
* Hope has the opportunity to kill Shay outright - he crashes into her lair and is dazed, she removes the bandana he uses as a face mask to breathe through poisoned air, and then unleashes enough poison that will kill him if he doesn't keep moving... But she doesn't just outright kill him like she easily could - she just as easily could have stabbed him in the heart with her Hidden Blade as taken his bandana. It comes across as her not being able to bring herself to kill him directly, either out of friendly affection, or even some element of attraction neither had quite been able to act on prior to Shay's defection.
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** Even worse, when's the last time we saw something like this? [[spoiler:All the way back in the first ''Assassin[='=]s Creed'', even if back then Al-Mualim had an Apple of Eden.]]

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** Even worse, when's the last time we saw something like this? [[spoiler:All the way back in the first ''Assassin[='=]s Creed'', ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedI'', even if back then Al-Mualim had an Apple of Eden.]]
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* For players who come freshly from ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIVBlackFlag'', there is a chance for this upon entering their first tavern cause one of the songs that might be played inside is "[[GriefSong The Parting Glass]]".
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* Early in the game, both Shay and Liam spoke proudly of Achilles' son, Connor Davenport (and Ratonhnhaké:ton's namesake) and how he will one day inherits his father's land. Sadly, both Connor and his mother died of Typhoid Fever. While their deaths greatly sadden Achilles (to the point Shay saw him crying), it also made him so focus on his mission to find the Precursor Temples faster, setting up the conflict between Shay and the Assassins.

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* Early in the game, both Shay and Liam spoke proudly of Achilles' son, Connor Davenport (and Ratonhnhaké:ton's namesake) and how he will one day inherits his father's land. Sadly, both Connor and his mother died of Typhoid Fever. While their deaths greatly sadden Achilles (to the point Shay saw him crying), it also made him so focus focused on his mission to find the Precursor Temples faster, setting up the conflict between Shay and the Assassins.

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* Early in the game, both Shay and Liam spoke proudly of Achilles' son, Connor Davenport (and Ratonhnhaké:ton's namesake) and how he will one day inherits his father's land. Sadly, both Connor and his mother died of Typhoid Fever. While their deaths greatly sadden Achilles (to the point Shay saw him crying), it also made him so focus on his mission to find the Precursor Temples faster, setting up the conflict between Shay and the Assassins.



** Even worse, when's the last time we saw something like this? [[spoiler:All the way back in the first ''Assassin[='=]s Creed'', even if back then al-Mualim had an Apple of Eden.]]

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** Even worse, when's the last time we saw something like this? [[spoiler:All the way back in the first ''Assassin[='=]s Creed'', even if back then al-Mualim Al-Mualim had an Apple of Eden.]]
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** Not to mention, Shay's accomplice in his assasination, Edward's own son.

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Deleted the following line of text: "Looking at Shay's face? You can tell Shay thinks it's basically frickin' Christmas. Not only has he made the world safer for slave masters, he now gets to off an uppity black guy." and "He's now perfectly content to perpetuate the cycle instead of seeking to end it. Probably because he was always a psychpath barely keeping it all boxed in." Right before, deleted a line of text that called Shay a "Creep" who was almost laughing at killing Hope. Somebody apparently really hates this character and is adding inflammatory stuff to the page for kicks.


** Looking at Shay's face? You can tell Shay thinks it's basically frickin' Christmas. Not only has he made the world safer for slave masters, he now gets to off an uppity black guy.



* The FallenHero vibe at the end of the game when Shay tells [[spoiler: a dying Charles Dorian]] that the Templars will [[spoiler: engineer their own revolution]]. Shay was driven to join the Templars because his work as an Assassin caused him to unwittingly [[spoiler: cause the deaths of thousands in the Lisbon earthquake]], but twenty years of membership in the Templar Order have now corrupted him so thoroughly that he's ready, willing, and able to [[spoiler: help kickstart the Reign of Terror]] just so the Templars can undo some of the damage Connor did to them in III. For someone who once questioned the point of the unending conflict between Assassin and Templar, seeing Shay fall to such a degree is indeed depressing. He's now perfectly content to perpetuate the cycle instead of seeking to end it. Probably because he was always a psychpath barely keeping it all boxed in.

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* The FallenHero vibe at the end of the game when Shay tells [[spoiler: a dying Charles Dorian]] that the Templars will [[spoiler: engineer their own revolution]]. Shay was driven to join the Templars because his work as an Assassin caused him to unwittingly [[spoiler: cause the deaths of thousands in the Lisbon earthquake]], but twenty years of membership in the Templar Order have now corrupted him so thoroughly that he's ready, willing, and able to [[spoiler: help kickstart the Reign of Terror]] just so the Templars can undo some of the damage Connor did to them in III. For someone who once questioned the point of the unending conflict between Assassin and Templar, seeing Shay fall to such a degree is indeed depressing. He's now perfectly content to perpetuate the cycle instead of seeking to end it. Probably because he was always a psychpath barely keeping it all boxed in.

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*** Like hell. The creep was probably struggling to keep from laughing.
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** Looking at Shay's face? You can tell Shay thinks of it as a Moral Event Horizon...This is his Point of No Return.

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** Looking at Shay's face? You can tell Shay thinks of it as a Moral Event Horizon...This is his Point of No Return.it's basically frickin' Christmas. Not only has he made the world safer for slave masters, he now gets to off an uppity black guy.
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* The FallenHero vibe at the end of the game when Shay tells [[spoiler: a dying Charles Dorian]] that the Templars will [[spoiler: engineer their own revolution]]. Shay was driven to join the Templars because his work as an Assassin caused him to unwittingly [[spoiler: cause the deaths of thousands in the Lisbon earthquake]], but twenty years of membership in the Templar Order have now corrupted him so thoroughly that he's ready, willing, and able to [[spoiler: help kickstart the Reign of Terror]] just so the Templars can undo some of the damage Connor did to them in III. For someone who once questioned the point of the unending conflict between Assassin and Templar, seeing Shay fall to such a degree is indeed depressing. He's now perfectly content to perpetuate the cycle instead of seeking to end it.

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* The FallenHero vibe at the end of the game when Shay tells [[spoiler: a dying Charles Dorian]] that the Templars will [[spoiler: engineer their own revolution]]. Shay was driven to join the Templars because his work as an Assassin caused him to unwittingly [[spoiler: cause the deaths of thousands in the Lisbon earthquake]], but twenty years of membership in the Templar Order have now corrupted him so thoroughly that he's ready, willing, and able to [[spoiler: help kickstart the Reign of Terror]] just so the Templars can undo some of the damage Connor did to them in III. For someone who once questioned the point of the unending conflict between Assassin and Templar, seeing Shay fall to such a degree is indeed depressing. He's now perfectly content to perpetuate the cycle instead of seeking to end it. Probably because he was always a psychpath barely keeping it all boxed in.
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*** Like hel. The creep was probably struggling to keep from laughing.

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*** Like hel.hell. The creep was probably struggling to keep from laughing.
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*** Like hel. The creep was probably struggling to keep from laughing.
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* The biggest one? THE ENTIRE GAME could have been averted if either Achilles or Shay had been less pig-headed. If Shay hadn't immediately stolen the manuscript, or Achilles had just LISTENED...(Or, for that matter, done more then just ignore Shay...even "Hope, Liam...guard him and talk to him")...none of this would have happened.

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* The biggest one? THE ENTIRE GAME could have been averted if either Achilles or Shay had been less pig-headed. If Shay hadn't immediately stolen the manuscript, or Achilles had just LISTENED...(Or, for that matter, done more then just ignore Shay...even "Hope, Liam...guard him and talk to him")...none of this would have happened.happened.
* The FallenHero vibe at the end of the game when Shay tells [[spoiler: a dying Charles Dorian]] that the Templars will [[spoiler: engineer their own revolution]]. Shay was driven to join the Templars because his work as an Assassin caused him to unwittingly [[spoiler: cause the deaths of thousands in the Lisbon earthquake]], but twenty years of membership in the Templar Order have now corrupted him so thoroughly that he's ready, willing, and able to [[spoiler: help kickstart the Reign of Terror]] just so the Templars can undo some of the damage Connor did to them in III. For someone who once questioned the point of the unending conflict between Assassin and Templar, seeing Shay fall to such a degree is indeed depressing. He's now perfectly content to perpetuate the cycle instead of seeking to end it.
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** Looking at Shay's face? You can tell Shay thinks of it as a Moral Event Horizon...This is his Point of No Return.

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** Looking at Shay's face? You can tell Shay thinks of it as a Moral Event Horizon...This is his Point of No Return.Return.
* The biggest one? THE ENTIRE GAME could have been averted if either Achilles or Shay had been less pig-headed. If Shay hadn't immediately stolen the manuscript, or Achilles had just LISTENED...(Or, for that matter, done more then just ignore Shay...even "Hope, Liam...guard him and talk to him")...none of this would have happened.

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** What's even better? You steadily kill more and more sympathetic people...The first kill is a guy you barely know, the second is a jerkass...then you get a beloved NPC, and then more and more people...



** The worst part? [[spoiler: Adé]]'s death isn't in a cutscene. You, the player, are in complete control of Shay as he approaches [[spoiler: Adéwale]], and kills him.

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** The worst part? [[spoiler: Adé]]'s death isn't in a cutscene. You, the player, are in complete control of Shay as he approaches [[spoiler: Adéwale]], and kills him.him.
** Looking at Shay's face? You can tell Shay thinks of it as a Moral Event Horizon...This is his Point of No Return.
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* "Please don't make me kill Adéwalé. Please don't make me kill Adéwalé."
** The worst part? Adé's death isn't in a cutscene. You, the player, are in complete control of Liam as he approaches Adéwale, and kills him.

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* "Please don't make me kill Adéwalé. [[spoiler: Adéwalé]]. Please don't make me kill Adéwalé.[[spoiler: Adéwalé]]."
** The worst part? Adé's [[spoiler: Adé]]'s death isn't in a cutscene. You, the player, are in complete control of Liam Shay as he approaches Adéwale, [[spoiler: Adéwale]], and kills him.

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* "Please don't make me kill Adéwalé. Please don't make me kill Adéwalé."

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* "Please don't make me kill Adéwalé. Please don't make me kill Adéwalé.""
** The worst part? Adé's death isn't in a cutscene. You, the player, are in complete control of Liam as he approaches Adéwale, and kills him.
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* [[spoiler: The Lisbon Earthquake]] is shown in horrifying, tragic detail, and it's made all the worse because you know that ''[[YouBastard you're]]'' the one who caused it.

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* [[spoiler: The Lisbon Earthquake]] is shown in horrifying, tragic detail, and it's made all the worse because you know that ''[[YouBastard you're]]'' the one who caused it.it.
* "Please don't make me kill Adéwalé. Please don't make me kill Adéwalé."
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** When [[spoiler: you're forced to infiltrate Davenport Manor, ]] it's the first time that the place doesn't feel warm and comforting.

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** During [[spoiler:the final chase against Liam, he reveals that he'd found Hope Jensen's body and he ''demands'' to know whether Shay had been the one to do her in]], and Shay's answer is an anguished-seeming "''I[='=]m sorry''!" Not hard to believe that by this point he meant it.



* [[spoiler: The Lisbon Earthquake]] is shown in horrifying, tragic detail, and it's made all the worse because you know that ''[[YouBastard you're]]'' the one who caused it.
* During [[spoiler:the final chase against Liam, he reveals that he'd found Hope Jensen's body]], and Shay's answer is an anguished-seeming "''I[='=]m sorry''!" Not hard to believe that by this point he meant it.

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* [[spoiler: The Lisbon Earthquake]] is shown in horrifying, tragic detail, and it's made all the worse because you know that ''[[YouBastard you're]]'' the one who caused it.
* During [[spoiler:the final chase against Liam, he reveals that he'd found Hope Jensen's body]], and Shay's answer is an anguished-seeming "''I[='=]m sorry''!" Not hard to believe that by this point he meant
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* Near the ending [[spoiler: Achilles]] admits he is wrong, which means that [[spoiler: all your actions were basically for nothing if he'd just done that earlier]].
* At the end of Sequence 2, [[spoiler: seemingly every single man, woman, and child in the Homestead turns around to kill you. As an Assassin village, the order of Achilles to kill you was akin to a commandment of God himself, but not a single person hesitated to turn on Shay.]]
* [[spoiler: The Lisbon Earthquake]] is shown in horrifying, tragic detail, and it's made all the worse because you know that ''[[YouBastard you're]]'' the one who caused it.

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* Near the ending end [[spoiler: Achilles]] admits that he is wrong, was wrong[[note]]and his warding Liam away at the Precursor site ''is'' informed by Achilles' newfound knowledge[[/note]], which means that [[spoiler: all [[spoiler:all your actions were basically for nothing if he'd just done that earlier]].
* At the end of Sequence 2, [[spoiler: seemingly every single man, woman, and child in the Homestead turns around to kill you. As an Assassin village, the order of Achilles to kill you was akin to a commandment of God himself, but and not a single person hesitated to turn on Shay.]]
** Even worse, when's the last time we saw something like this? [[spoiler:All the way back in the first ''Assassin[='=]s Creed'', even if back then al-Mualim had an Apple of Eden.]]
* [[spoiler: The Lisbon Earthquake]] is shown in horrifying, tragic detail, and it's made all the worse because you know that ''[[YouBastard you're]]'' the one who caused it.
* During [[spoiler:the final chase against Liam, he reveals that he'd found Hope Jensen's body]], and Shay's answer is an anguished-seeming "''I[='=]m sorry''!" Not hard to believe that by this point he meant
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* [[spoiler: The Lisbon Earthquake]] is shown in horrifying, tragic detail, and it's made all the worse because you know that [[YouBastard ''you're'']] the one who caused it.

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* [[spoiler: The Lisbon Earthquake]] is shown in horrifying, tragic detail, and it's made all the worse because you know that [[YouBastard ''you're'']] ''[[YouBastard you're]]'' the one who caused it.
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* At the end of Sequence 2, [[spoiler: seemingly every single man, woman, and child in the Homestead turns around to kill you. As an Assassin village, the order of Achilles to kill you was akin to a commandment of God himself, but not a single person hesitated to turn on Shay.]]

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* At the end of Sequence 2, [[spoiler: seemingly every single man, woman, and child in the Homestead turns around to kill you. As an Assassin village, the order of Achilles to kill you was akin to a commandment of God himself, but not a single person hesitated to turn on Shay.]]]]
* [[spoiler: The Lisbon Earthquake]] is shown in horrifying, tragic detail, and it's made all the worse because you know that [[YouBastard ''you're'']] the one who caused it.
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* Near the ending [[spoiler: Achilles]] admits he is wrong, which means that [[spoiler: all your actions were basically for nothing if he'd just done that earlier]].

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* Near the ending [[spoiler: Achilles]] admits he is wrong, which means that [[spoiler: all your actions were basically for nothing if he'd just done that earlier]].earlier]].
* At the end of Sequence 2, [[spoiler: seemingly every single man, woman, and child in the Homestead turns around to kill you. As an Assassin village, the order of Achilles to kill you was akin to a commandment of God himself, but not a single person hesitated to turn on Shay.]]
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* James Wardrop's death is lacking the usual dignity of an Assassination. He's terrified of what the Assassins will do with the box. [[spoiler: With good reason.]] He also is afraid of what's going to happen to the colonies since he thinks the Templars are the only people looking out for their best interests.

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* James Wardrop's death is lacking the usual dignity of an Assassination. He's terrified of what the Assassins will do with the box. [[spoiler: With good reason.]] He also is afraid of what's going to happen to the colonies since he thinks the Templars are the only people looking out for their best interests.interests.
*Near the ending [[spoiler: Achilles]] admits he is wrong, which means that [[spoiler: all your actions were basically for nothing if he'd just done that earlier]].
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** A Fridge Tearjerker occurs when you realize Lawrence's desire to keep his brother out of Templar business will fail spectacularly and [[spoiler: he will become a Templar too.]]

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* Lawrence Washington's death is set up to be one of these but he ruins it by being DefiantUntilTheEnd.

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* Lawrence Washington's [[spoiler: Washington]]'s death is set up to be one of these but he ruins it by being DefiantUntilTheEnd.DefiantToTheEnd.
** A Fridge Tearjerker occurs when you realize Lawrence's desire to keep his brother out of Templar business will fail spectacularly and [[spoiler: he will become a Templar too.]]
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* Almost every time Shay kills one of his old comrades, it's a very depressing experience.

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* Almost every time Shay kills one of his old comrades, it's a very depressing experience.experience.
* Lawrence Washington's death is set up to be one of these but he ruins it by being DefiantUntilTheEnd.
* James Wardrop's death is lacking the usual dignity of an Assassination. He's terrified of what the Assassins will do with the box. [[spoiler: With good reason.]] He also is afraid of what's going to happen to the colonies since he thinks the Templars are the only people looking out for their best interests.
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* TearJerker: Almost every time Shay kills one of his old comrades, it's a very depressing experience.

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* TearJerker: Almost every time Shay kills one of his old comrades, it's a very depressing experience.
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* TearJerker: Almost every time Shay kills one of his old comrades, it's a very depressing experience.

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