Follow TV Tropes

Following

History TabletopGame / VampireTheRequiem

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** Longinus {{lampshades}} it in the Testament of Longinus's ''[[ApocalypseHow Book of Eschaton]]'' by highlighting the Kindred's tendency for self-sabotage:
---> "I have learned that the Damned must not make our own salvation. Because we can only destroy what plans we make; because we are Damned.”
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:


* ''The Circle of the Crone'': WickedWitch. A pagan Goddess-worshipping [[AWorldwidePunomenon coven-ant]] that espouses vampires are vampires because they're perfectly natural (in the way that leeches are natural) and that's cool. And suffering and persecution makes us stronger. That's just as well, as they've been persecuted a lot (especially by the Lancea Sanctum) throughout history. On the other hand, they're a bunch of monsters who revel in their monstrosity and just learning their [[BloodyMurder blood sorcery]] [[TheDarkSide distances you from humanity]], so they did sort of deserve it. This covenant has the most factions, with everything from [[StrawFeminist man-hating lesbian feminista Wiccans]] to [[HollywoodVoodoo Lousiana voudunists]].

to:

* ''The Circle of the Crone'': WickedWitch. A pagan Goddess-worshipping [[AWorldwidePunomenon [[IncrediblyLamePun coven-ant]] that espouses vampires are vampires because they're perfectly natural (in the way that leeches are natural) and that's cool. And suffering and persecution makes us stronger. That's just as well, as they've been persecuted a lot (especially by the Lancea Sanctum) throughout history. On the other hand, they're a bunch of monsters who revel in their monstrosity and just learning their [[BloodyMurder blood sorcery]] [[TheDarkSide distances you from humanity]], so they did sort of deserve it. This covenant has the most factions, with everything from [[StrawFeminist man-hating lesbian feminista Wiccans]] to [[HollywoodVoodoo Lousiana voudunists]].



* TheVamp: The female Daeva, literally. [[AWorldwidePunomenon And everyone else]].

to:

* TheVamp: The female Daeva, literally. [[AWorldwidePunomenon [[IncrediblyLamePun And everyone else]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* AssholeVictim: The [[HellHound Black Hounds]] only pursue vampires who have JumpedOffTheSlipperySlope or are getting close to it, and in the case of genuinely repentant ones, leave them with only a nasty burn and a warning.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ApparentlyPowerlessPuppetmaster: The Phanariot and the Louchet are ghouls who have developed an immunity to the [[CharmPerson Viniculum]], either through a collective pact with an otherworldly entity (Phanariot) or as part of a deal with true Kindred to remove some of the BlessedWithSuck qualities of existence (the Louchet). Since it's assumed that ghouls are more or less the collective [[KickTheDog kicked dogs]] of the vampiric world, everyone who doesn't know of their existence beforehand assumes they're just loyal gofers. Naturally, this is an impression they do everything in their power to cultivate, right up until they ask WhosLaughingNow and cut off their "master's" head.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* DarkerAndEdiger: Unlike in Masquerade, it isn't actually possible to embrace your new power without giving into the Beast, at least partially-which means it's impossible to remain a moral individual and have something resembling power in vampiric society. And that's the ''least'' bad thing that will happen to you. Yeah, BlessedWithSuck ''doesn't begin to describe Kindred''.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
If its possible than its not this trope


** The Duchange bloodline's [[MeaningfulName La Touche Illusoire]] power lets a Kindred launch a psychic pattern of touches, prods, and caresses on some victim. On an exceptional success, you can [[BeyondTheImpossible LITERALLY]] rape someone with your mind! Higher levels allow you to hit someone with intense pain (or... [[ElectricInstantGratification the exact opposite]]) and completely recolor their emotional perceptions, to the point of having someone ''adore'' you as you advance on them with a chainsaw.

to:

** The Duchange bloodline's [[MeaningfulName La Touche Illusoire]] power lets a Kindred launch a psychic pattern of touches, prods, and caresses on some victim. On an exceptional success, you can [[BeyondTheImpossible LITERALLY]] LITERALLY rape someone with your mind! Higher levels allow you to hit someone with intense pain (or... [[ElectricInstantGratification the exact opposite]]) and completely recolor their emotional perceptions, to the point of having someone ''adore'' you as you advance on them with a chainsaw.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** This is also present in their in-universe fiction: 'A Hunger Like Fire' has Persephone in a club playing [[HomestarRunner a techno song with the refrain "The system... is down! The system... is down!"]]

to:

** This is also present in their in-universe fiction: 'A Hunger Like Fire' has Persephone in a club playing [[HomestarRunner [[WebAnimation/HomestarRunner a techno song with the refrain "The system... is down! The system... is down!"]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** Not to be confused with ''Ghûls'', who are Arabian wizards who [[CursedWithAwesome are immortal. superhuman an canibalistic]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* EvilVirtues: Part of what makes Belial's Brood such an effective organization is TrueCompanions. This is in contrast to ''every other Kindred in existence''.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* CannibalClan - The Oberloch bloodline seem to be based on the CannibalClan types you see in horror movies like the TexasChainsawMassacre, but are actually derived from the [[DeepSouth redneck]] thing. A truer cannibal clan would be the Noctoku, who feed on other vampires exclusively, or the Macellarius, who do that occasionally, but really emphasize the family unit.

to:

* CannibalClan - The Oberloch bloodline seem to be based on the CannibalClan types you see in horror movies like the TexasChainsawMassacre, ''Film/TheTexasChainsawMassacre'', but are actually derived from the [[DeepSouth redneck]] thing. A truer cannibal clan would be the Noctoku, who feed on other vampires exclusively, or the Macellarius, who do that occasionally, but really emphasize the family unit.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


''Vampire: The Requiem'' began in 2004. Instead of the [[VampireTheMasquerade previous game's]] thirteen (and then some) clans, clans being the most distinctive feature of White Wolf's system, it was whittled down to five "archetype" clans, though they have tons of bloodlines that were created from those five. ''Masquerade'''s two sects, the Sabbat and the Camarilla, were replaced with five "covenants", effectively setting up an X/Y axis with far more options numerically than Masquerade. Then there's the fact that each covenant has tons of factions (see below).

to:

''Vampire: The Requiem'' began in 2004. Instead of the [[VampireTheMasquerade [[TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade previous game's]] thirteen (and then some) clans, clans being the most distinctive feature of White Wolf's system, it was whittled down to five "archetype" clans, though they have tons of bloodlines that were created from those five. ''Masquerade'''s two sects, the Sabbat and the Camarilla, were replaced with five "covenants", effectively setting up an X/Y axis with far more options numerically than Masquerade. Then there's the fact that each covenant has tons of factions (see below).

Added: 207

Changed: 1

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** The Players bloodline has art of a girl cosplaying as AnitaBlake.

to:

** The Players bloodline has art of a girl cosplaying as AnitaBlake. AnitaBlake.
** This is also present in their in-universe fiction: 'A Hunger Like Fire' has Persephone in a club playing [[HomestarRunner a techno song with the refrain "The system... is down! The system... is down!"]]

Changed: 435

Removed: 177

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* CripplingOverspecialization - The Moroi bloodline are a group of uber-predators kept as assassins by the Ordo Dracul. They boast strength and toughness beyond even undead norm, they have both Obfuscate (vampiric stealth) and Animalism (animal control). They have murderous urges even more powerful than other vampires that take up most of their concentration, and while they're not precisely deformed, they have yellowish skin and their air of menace allows even oblivious humans to understand there's ''something'' wrong with them. So yeah, good if you want to fight, sneak, or assassinate, bad if you want to, say, carry on a normal conversation, or do more than basic math.

to:

* CripplingOverspecialization - The Moroi bloodline are a group of uber-predators kept as assassins by the Ordo Dracul. They boast strength and toughness beyond even undead norm, they have both Obfuscate (vampiric stealth) and Animalism (animal control). control), and they're an option for both Gangrel ''and'' Nosferatu, meaning that they have relatively easy access to Protean, though it's no longer in-clan. They also have murderous urges even more powerful than other vampires that take up most of their concentration, and while they're not precisely deformed, they have yellowish skin and their air of menace allows even oblivious humans to understand there's ''something'' wrong with them. So yeah, good if you want to fight, sneak, or assassinate, bad if you want to, say, carry on a normal conversation, or do more than basic math.



** A relatively mild example: independent Moroi (see CripplingOverspecialization). Most are kept on a short leash by the Ordo Dracul; most of the rest were killed. However, this means logically that there are those of the bloodline that didn't want to be leashed killers enough to refuse...and were powerful enough to avoid destruction. This is actually discussed--bringing in or bringing down such creatures is sometimes tasked to disposable coteries that are more trouble than they're worth--but the ''implications'' aren't really delved into in-text.

to:

** A relatively mild example: independent Moroi (see CripplingOverspecialization). Most are kept on a short leash by the Ordo Dracul; most of the rest were killed. However, this means logically that there are those of the bloodline that didn't want to be leashed killers killers, enough to refuse...that they refused...and were powerful enough to avoid destruction. This is actually discussed--bringing in or bringing down such creatures is sometimes tasked to disposable coteries that are more trouble than they're worth--but the ''implications'' aren't really delved into in-text.



* LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards: Generally, the Kindred who focus on developing the physical Disciplines get outclassed really badly by Kindred who develop the psychic ones, [[ViciousCycle which they then use to recruit Kindred who focused on the physical Disciplines.]] Really, would you prefer to spend 3 dots on Resilience, or 3 dots on Dominate so you can control three guys each equal to Retainer 3?
* Course, if you have powerful disciplines, none of that matters if the enemy has enough stamina and willpower to shake off damage and Dominate long enough to rip your head off.

to:

* LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards: Generally, the Kindred who focus on developing the physical Disciplines get outclassed really badly by Kindred who develop the psychic ones, [[ViciousCycle which they then use to recruit Kindred who focused on the physical Disciplines.]] Really, would you prefer to spend 3 dots on Resilience, or 3 dots on Dominate so you can control three guys each equal to Retainer 3?
* Course, if
3? (Eventually one can reach a level in the physical where you have powerful disciplines, none of that matters if the enemy has enough stamina and willpower to shake off damage and Dominate long enough to rip your head off.become a juggernaut even against psychic powers...but it takes a while.)



** Dutch traders were among the few foreigners who had contact with Japan... and could have brought vampires with them?

to:

** Dutch traders were among the few foreigners who had contact with Japan... and could have brought vampires with them?



** The 1st example Ventrue in their clanbook is an upstart, arrogant entitled brat with the surname [=LaCroix=] and unorthodox methods that ruffle his superiors. An expy [[VampireTheMasqueradeBloodlines Sebastian LaCroix]], really.

to:

** The 1st first example Ventrue in their clanbook is an upstart, arrogant entitled brat with the surname [=LaCroix=] and unorthodox methods that ruffle his superiors. An expy [[VampireTheMasqueradeBloodlines Sebastian LaCroix]], really.



-->Mess with their heads. Get it so the victims love their keepers, will do anything for them (even better if they can work one of the couple against the other--[[LampshadeHanging so sweet, that betrayal]]).
--->'''Night Horrors: Immortal Sinners, pg. 74'''
** Coming full circle, Charlene cheats on Charles. [[DestructiveRomance He doesn't know, but she wants him to.]]

to:

-->Mess --->Mess with their heads. Get it so the victims love their keepers, will do anything for them (even better if they can work one of the couple against the other--[[LampshadeHanging so sweet, that betrayal]]).
--->'''Night ---->'''Night Horrors: Immortal Sinners, pg. 74'''
** *** Coming full circle, Charlene cheats on Charles. [[DestructiveRomance He doesn't know, but she wants him to.]]]] TheAristocrats!



** Actually the madness is induced in the instigator, not the victim - the bloodline's weakness is that any time their mind control fails, or works too well, they themselves have a relapse of the crazy.

to:

** Actually the madness is induced in the instigator, not the victim - the victim--the bloodline's weakness is that any time their mind control fails, or works too well, they themselves have a relapse of the crazy.



* PowerPerversionPotential: Have you been paying attention?

to:

* PowerPerversionPotential: Have PowerPerversionPotential: ...have you been paying attention?attention to a word on this page?



* ReedRichardsIsUseless: Both averted and played straight numerous times. Many vampires have the power to change the world -- but most don't, despite canonically having the means and desire.

to:

* ReedRichardsIsUseless: Both averted and played straight numerous times. Many vampires have the power to change the world -- but world--but most don't, despite canonically having the means and desire.desire. Vampires are beings locked in stasis, and they in fact don't do well with change.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Making like a vet and picking off ticks. I mean, tics.


* ''VII'': [[TheUnsolvedMystery Yeah...]] They engage in terrorist acts against other vampires, and their minds can't be read beyond getting the image of the roman numeral 7. Beyond that, there is no canonical explanation for who VII are. Well; there are several, but they all contradict each other. They could be [[ManchurianAgent normal vampires infected with a mind-control meme]], the members of the Seventh Clan (the now-Dead Julii being the Sixth), or [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking a bunch of Vampires annoyed that a party in Camarillan Rome was cancelled]]. Various suggestions for what they could be have been seeded through the books; the VII book gives 3 contradictory possibilities.

to:

* ''VII'': [[TheUnsolvedMystery Yeah...]] They engage in terrorist acts against other vampires, and their minds can't be read beyond getting the image of the roman numeral 7. Beyond that, there is no canonical explanation for who VII are. Well; there are several, but they all contradict each other. They could be [[ManchurianAgent normal vampires infected with a mind-control meme]], the members of the Seventh Clan (the now-Dead Julii being the Sixth), or [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking a bunch of Vampires annoyed that a party in Camarillan Rome was cancelled]]. Various suggestions for what they could be have been seeded through the books; the VII book gives 3 contradictory possibilities.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* PsychicSurgery: One variant of the VII faction can do this... for good ''and'' ill.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None





* AGodAmI - Every member of the Asnam bloodline. To wit, the Asnam are a [[TheBeautifulPeople Daeva]] bloodline whose special abilities allow them to make a ghouled human appear prettier than he really is, transfer blood or willpower to or from one of her ghouls over large distances, sleep in the body of a ghoul and prepare a child in such such a way that, when the Asnam suffers FinalDeath their soul is transferred into the body of the child. They are also true egomanics, which allows the [[GameMaster Storyteller]] to grossly underplay the difficulty of a task up to two times per scene.

to:

* AGodAmI - Every member of the Asnam bloodline. To wit, the Asnam are a [[TheBeautifulPeople [[TheBeautifulElite Daeva]] bloodline whose special abilities allow them to make a ghouled human appear prettier than he really is, transfer blood or willpower to or from one of her ghouls over large distances, sleep in the body of a ghoul and prepare a child in such such a way that, when the Asnam suffers FinalDeath their soul is transferred into the body of the child. They are also true egomanics, which allows the [[GameMaster Storyteller]] to grossly underplay the difficulty of a task up to two times per scene.



* TheBeautifulPeople - Deconstructed by the Daeva

to:

* TheBeautifulPeople TheBeautifulElite - Deconstructed by the Daeva
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* EstrogenBrigadeBait - [[ScaryBlackMan Solomon Birch]] is Chicago's resident [[SexyPriest LS leader]] with a DarkAndTroubledPast who insists on not [[ShirtlessScene wearing shirts.]] He has a lot of [[GoodScarsEvilScars scars]] due to self-flagellation and is portrayed as TheWoobie.

to:

* EstrogenBrigadeBait - MrFanservice: [[ScaryBlackMan Solomon Birch]] is Chicago's resident [[SexyPriest LS leader]] with a DarkAndTroubledPast who insists on not [[ShirtlessScene wearing shirts.]] He has a lot of [[GoodScarsEvilScars scars]] due to self-flagellation and is portrayed as TheWoobie.

Changed: 797

Removed: 502

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Several major problems with this little rant. It\'s incredibly subjective and seems kind of personally whiney, and cites reasons that are not backed by any kind of reference as Word Of God. It even seems unlikely to be the true reasoning, considering it makes less sense when you consider EVERY Wo D game line was restarted/cancelled with this decision, not all of which had any ties to these same issues. Between the lack of appeal to real authority making it into kind of a personal rant/interpretation and the undispelled improbability, I think we can do without this unless someone can bring up some actual citable quotation that these were the designers\' reasons and thought processes. We can do without fans\' interpretations thereof.


''Vampire: The Requiem'' began in 2004 after over a decade of [[KudzuPlot convoluted]], WordOfGod metaplot made the previous incarnation, ''TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade'', nearly unplayable to first timers without reading over a dozen supplements, few of which [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes stayed in print for very long]] and thus made the process of acclimation that much harder. To make the line both more marketable and less dependent on the waning {{Goth}} {{subculture}}, the entire line was put to a halt and restarted as ''Vampire: The Requiem''.

Instead of the previous game's thirteen (and then some) clans, clans being the most distinctive feature of White Wolf's system, it was whittled down to five "archetype" clans, though they have tons of bloodlines that were created from those five. ''Masquerade'''s two sects, the Sabbat and the Camarilla, were replaced with five "covenants", effectively setting up an X/Y axis with far more options numerically than Masquerade. Then there's the fact that each covenant has tons of factions (see below).

to:

''Vampire: The Requiem'' began in 2004 after over a decade of [[KudzuPlot convoluted]], WordOfGod metaplot made the previous incarnation, ''TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade'', nearly unplayable to first timers without reading over a dozen supplements, few of which [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes stayed in print for very long]] and thus made the process of acclimation that much harder. To make the line both more marketable and less dependent on the waning {{Goth}} {{subculture}}, the entire line was put to a halt and restarted as ''Vampire: The Requiem''.

2004. Instead of the [[VampireTheMasquerade previous game's game's]] thirteen (and then some) clans, clans being the most distinctive feature of White Wolf's system, it was whittled down to five "archetype" clans, though they have tons of bloodlines that were created from those five. ''Masquerade'''s two sects, the Sabbat and the Camarilla, were replaced with five "covenants", effectively setting up an X/Y axis with far more options numerically than Masquerade. Then there's the fact that each covenant has tons of factions (see below).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ''Belial's Brood'': [[TheCorruption Infernalists]], self-titled the Forsworn, that believe that they should lose all traces of humanity and give themselves over to the Beast/the Biblical Satan, the monster that lives in them. Tend to have rather short life expectancies; to quote Shadows of the UK, "Members of Belial's Brood often labour under the delusion that they can go toe-to-toe with an enraged [[WerewolfTheForsaken Uratha]]." The ''smart'' ones, on the other hand, usually tend to be just as subtle, if not more so, then VII. Their splatbook elaborates and contains many interesting [[HornyDevils squicky demon]] powers with the {{unfortunate implication}} that they're the covenant closest to what vampires are truly supposed to be, and adds a [[NietzscheWannabe philosophical side]]. Their splatbook also retcons the whole infernalist thing to just two factions, and gives us these groupings:

to:

* ''Belial's Brood'': [[TheCorruption Infernalists]], self-titled the Forsworn, that believe that they should lose all traces of humanity and give themselves over to the Beast/the Biblical Satan, the monster that lives in them. Tend to have rather short life expectancies; to quote Shadows of the UK, "Members of Belial's Brood often labour under the delusion that they can go toe-to-toe with an enraged [[WerewolfTheForsaken Uratha]]." The ''smart'' ones, on the other hand, usually tend to be just as subtle, if not more so, then VII. Their splatbook elaborates and contains many interesting [[HornyDevils squicky demon]] powers with the {{unfortunate implication}} {{Unfortunate Implication}} that they're the covenant closest to what vampires are truly supposed to be, and adds a [[NietzscheWannabe philosophical side]]. Their splatbook also retcons the whole infernalist thing to just two factions, and gives us these groupings:



** The Pandaemonium - You know the description of Belial's Brood as infernalists? These are them. They think he's the Antichrist.

to:

** The Pandaemonium - You know the description of Belial's Brood as infernalists? These are them. They think he's a [[DemonLordsAndArchdevils demon lord]] who patrons vampires in the Antichrist.name of the Adversary, [[GodOfEvil the anti-Creator]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


A tabletop roleplaying game in the NewWorldOfDarkness line. Players take the roles of vampires, people [[CursedWithAwesome Cursed]] with eternal (un)life, supernatural power, and -- oh, yeah -- [[BlessedWithSuck bloodlust and a fatal sunlight allergy.]]

to:

A tabletop roleplaying game in the NewWorldOfDarkness TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness line. Players take the roles of vampires, people [[CursedWithAwesome Cursed]] with eternal (un)life, supernatural power, and -- oh, yeah -- [[BlessedWithSuck bloodlust and a fatal sunlight allergy.]]



* FantasyAxisOfEvil - The Vampires as a whole belong to the Fallen among the other "races" of ''TheWorldOfDarkness'', but this trope can also apply to the five Clans. You should note, however, that they may might not fall squarely under each category...

to:

* FantasyAxisOfEvil - The Vampires as a whole belong to the Fallen among the other "races" of ''TheWorldOfDarkness'', the TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness, but this trope can also apply to the five Clans. You should note, however, that they may might not fall squarely under each category...



* MySignificanceSenseIsTingling: The WorldOfDarkness in general is fond of the notion that when something big happens, even people who don't believe in the supernatural ''feel'' it. From the Chicago sourcebook, when discussing the prospect of an elder moving to a new city:

to:

* MySignificanceSenseIsTingling: The WorldOfDarkness TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness in general is fond of the notion that when something big happens, even people who don't believe in the supernatural ''feel'' it. From the Chicago sourcebook, when discussing the prospect of an elder moving to a new city:
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
fixing redlinks


* {{Cosplay}} - People who play in the LARP version of the game, Mind's Eye Theater, often dress-up as their characters or major NPCs. The actual rulebook for the LARP even uses pictures of some players cosplaying as New Orleans mainstays [[RetiredBadass Pearl Chastain]] and [[MagicalNegro Baron Cimetiere]], who himself is cosplaying Baron Samedi.

to:

* {{Cosplay}} - People who play in the LARP version of the game, Mind's Eye Theater, often dress-up as their characters or major NPCs.[=NPCs=]. The actual rulebook for the LARP even uses pictures of some players cosplaying as New Orleans mainstays [[RetiredBadass Pearl Chastain]] and [[MagicalNegro Baron Cimetiere]], who himself is cosplaying Baron Samedi.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
ymmv can not have examples, only their subitems can


Instead of the previous game's thirteen (and then some) clans, clans being the most distinctive (and [[YourMileageMayVary easily litigated]]) feature of White Wolf's system, it was whittled down to five "archetype" clans, though they have tons of bloodlines that were created from those five. ''Masquerade'''s two sects, the Sabbat and the Camarilla, were replaced with five "covenants", effectively setting up an X/Y axis with far more options numerically than Masquerade. Then there's the fact that each covenant has tons of factions (see below).

to:

Instead of the previous game's thirteen (and then some) clans, clans being the most distinctive (and [[YourMileageMayVary easily litigated]]) feature of White Wolf's system, it was whittled down to five "archetype" clans, though they have tons of bloodlines that were created from those five. ''Masquerade'''s two sects, the Sabbat and the Camarilla, were replaced with five "covenants", effectively setting up an X/Y axis with far more options numerically than Masquerade. Then there's the fact that each covenant has tons of factions (see below).

Added: 248

Changed: 1

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
This bit seems to be missed for whatever reason. I found it interesting and wanted to share.


* DidNotDoTheResearch: The nickname given for the Invictus is "The First Estate". However, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estates_of_the_realm that refers to the Church]]. Aristocrats are the Second Estate.

to:

* DidNotDoTheResearch: The nickname given for the Invictus is "The First Estate". However, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estates_of_the_realm that refers to the Church]]. Aristocrats are the Second Estate. Estate.
** There's text in the corebook that suggests this is intentional on the part of the Invictus:
--->Members of the Invictus occasionally refer to the Lancea Sanctum as the Second Estate, itself a perversion of the historical first and second estates.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** The ''Danse Macabre'' book has various "Masquerades" listed for characters wishing to strength the illusion that they're mortal. One of them is Youth. Among the possible concepts listed is [[FerrisBuellersDayOff "Righteous Dude", and feeding targets include "the sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wastoids, dweebies, dickheads."]]

to:

** The ''Danse Macabre'' book has various "Masquerades" listed for characters wishing to strength the illusion that they're mortal. One of them is Youth. Among the possible concepts listed is [[FerrisBuellersDayOff [[Film/FerrisBuellersDayOff "Righteous Dude", and feeding targets include "the sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wastoids, dweebies, dickheads."]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** The ''Danse Macabre'' book has various "Masquerades" listed for characters wishing to strength the illusion that they're mortal. One of them is Youth. Among the possible concepts listed is [[FerrisBuellersDayOff "Righteous Dude", and feeding targets include "the sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wastoids, dweebies, dickheads."]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


Now with [[Characters/{{Ptitlem0r66i4g96a7}} Character Sheet]], fans are highly encouraged to edit.

to:

Now with [[Characters/{{Ptitlem0r66i4g96a7}} [[Characters/VampireTheRequiem Character Sheet]], fans are highly encouraged to edit.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ''[[DarkChick Daeva]]'': The {{Spiritual Successor}}s of the [[AristocratsAreEvil Toreador]] clan from ''Masquerade'' (indeed, they have a bloodline ''called'' the Toreador) mixed to some extent with the passionate Brujah (coming to Requiem as a Gangrel bloodline), the second most evil clan (right behind the Ventrue), and nicknamed Succubi (aka HornyDevils) by the other Clans...which pretty much [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin summarizes their whole concept]]. In their Clan Book it is stated that they're "[[SuperStrength stronger]], [[SuperSpeed faster]] and [[EvilIsSexy sexier]] than you". Even before the embrace they are already attractive humans after it they become and InhumanlyBeautifulRace, partly because of their discipline, Majesty, that allows them to bedazzle people with their presence. The clan book does make a point of the fact that anyone who knows enough about the Daeva (including the Daeva themselves) tends to find something off about them because their beauty is artificial and they are incapable of love. One of the illustrators noted that the Daeva are essentially sex objects rather than people. Sourcebook: ''"Kiss of the Succubus"''.

to:

* ''[[DarkChick Daeva]]'': The {{Spiritual Successor}}s of the [[AristocratsAreEvil Toreador]] clan from ''Masquerade'' (indeed, they have a bloodline ''called'' the Toreador) mixed to some extent with the passionate Brujah (coming to Requiem as a Gangrel bloodline), the second most evil clan (right behind the Ventrue), and nicknamed Succubi (aka HornyDevils) by the other Clans...which pretty much [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin summarizes their whole concept]]. In their Clan Book it is stated that they're "[[SuperStrength stronger]], [[SuperSpeed faster]] and [[EvilIsSexy sexier]] than you". Even before the embrace they are already attractive humans after it they become and an InhumanlyBeautifulRace, partly because of their discipline, Majesty, that allows them to bedazzle people with their presence. The clan book does make a point of the fact that anyone who knows enough about the Daeva (including the Daeva themselves) tends to find something off about them because their beauty is artificial and they are incapable of love. One of the illustrators noted that the Daeva are essentially sex objects rather than people. Sourcebook: ''"Kiss of the Succubus"''.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ''[[DarkChick Daeva]]'': The {{Spiritual Successor}}s of the [[AristocratsAreEvil Toreador]] clan from ''Masquerade'' (indeed, they have a bloodline ''called'' the Toreador) mixed to some extent with the passionate Brujah (coming to Requiem as a Gangrel bloodline), the second most evil clan (right behind the Ventrue), and nicknamed Succubi (aka HornyDevils) by the other Clans...which pretty much [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin summarizes their whole concept]]. Sourcebook: ''"Kiss of the Succubus"''.

to:

* ''[[DarkChick Daeva]]'': The {{Spiritual Successor}}s of the [[AristocratsAreEvil Toreador]] clan from ''Masquerade'' (indeed, they have a bloodline ''called'' the Toreador) mixed to some extent with the passionate Brujah (coming to Requiem as a Gangrel bloodline), the second most evil clan (right behind the Ventrue), and nicknamed Succubi (aka HornyDevils) by the other Clans...which pretty much [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin summarizes their whole concept]]. In their Clan Book it is stated that they're "[[SuperStrength stronger]], [[SuperSpeed faster]] and [[EvilIsSexy sexier]] than you". Even before the embrace they are already attractive humans after it they become and InhumanlyBeautifulRace, partly because of their discipline, Majesty, that allows them to bedazzle people with their presence. The clan book does make a point of the fact that anyone who knows enough about the Daeva (including the Daeva themselves) tends to find something off about them because their beauty is artificial and they are incapable of love. One of the illustrators noted that the Daeva are essentially sex objects rather than people. Sourcebook: ''"Kiss of the Succubus"''.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* SpiritualSuccessor: The game tries to capture the vital essence of "Vampire: The Masquerade" while still being its own, independent entity.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Eliminated \"If You Know What I Mean\" sinkhole as part of Special Efforts cleanup.


** For added {{Squick}}, how's about those Sangiovanni, what with the built-in OCD that makes them freak out when they're not around corpses? Yes, some of them do like corpses [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean that]] [[ILoveTheDead way]], why do you ask?

to:

** For added {{Squick}}, how's about those Sangiovanni, what with the built-in OCD that makes them freak out when they're not around corpses? Yes, some of them do like corpses [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean that]] that [[ILoveTheDead way]], why do you ask?

Top