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* Another more idealistic adult-oriented cartoon is ''WesternAnimation/BobsBurgers''. The Belcher family go through small, relatable dilemmas, but in the end they all have each other to get through hard times. They all love each other deeply and we love them because of it.

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* Another more ''WesternAnimation/BobsBurgers'' is definitely one of the most idealistic adult-oriented cartoon is ''WesternAnimation/BobsBurgers''.cartoons. The Belcher family go through small, relatable dilemmas, but in the end they all have each other to get through hard times. They all love each other deeply and we love them because of it. Even despite the fact they live in PerpetualPoverty with their struggling business, they work hard, never give up, and continue to find happiness in their lives both in and out of the restaurant. Furthermore, while there are a few {{jerkass}}es here and there, most of the characters (especially the Belchers themselves) are decent people underneath their eccentricities.



* ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'' is a very mundane and realistic show. Not everything ends happily but there's still a fair amount of good things in life to appreciate.

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* ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'' is a very mundane and realistic show. show, consequently taking a grounded but fairly optimistic worldview. Not everything ends happily for everyone all the time but there's still a fair amount of many good things in life for them all to appreciate. In many episodes, Hank and other characters manage to find common ground with those carrying differing viewpoints and personalities, learning to adapt and adjust to a changing society even despite the difficulties they may have understanding it while also proving that the "good old ways" still have their place in the world. Almost none of the major characters are 100% irredeemable, with even major {{jerkass}}es like Cotton still having some nuance or humanity to them and the more straightforwardly sympathetic characters being flawed but decent individuals just trying to do the right thing.
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* ''WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman'' is cynically optimistic. It's a very interesting example because the tone of each season seems to shift from something that is overall DarkerAndEdgier than shifts to LighterAndSofter and then back to a season that is DarkerAndEdgier again. The started off as slightly more optimistic than WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty but by season 4, the show was established as a great mix of heartwarming optimism with harsh cynicism. The show's ultimate message is love and happiness are definitely obtainable but not easily so. Characters face such complex obstacles with others and their own emotions that they sometimes make hurtful emotional choices or reasonable good-hearted choices that affect other people greatly. Bojack is a self-loathing yet narcissistic horse who is constantly trying to find a way get better but finds it easier to stick to his own self-destructive habits which he still hates. By the end of season 4 however, he discovers in the midst of a drug-fueled epiphany that he's a good person worthy of redemption, and follows the others' lead in downtrodden expectations with a grain of hope. However, this doesn't exactly mean the show is going on a constant upward scale from here. Season 5 was much DarkerAndEdgier than the more colorful previous season revealing Bojack is still struggling to become better. By season 5 though he finally takes a forceful decision to [[spoiler: go to rehab after he choked his girlfriend/co-star Gina not on purpose but due to drugs, felt horrible about it, and realized this is another wake up call to finally need help]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman'' is cynically optimistic. It's a very interesting example because the tone of each season seems to shift from something that is overall DarkerAndEdgier than shifts to LighterAndSofter and then back to a season that is DarkerAndEdgier again. The started off as slightly more optimistic than WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty but by season 4, the show was established as a great mix of heartwarming optimism with harsh cynicism. The show's ultimate message is love and happiness are definitely obtainable but not easily so. Characters face such complex obstacles with others and their own emotions that they sometimes make hurtful emotional choices or reasonable good-hearted choices that affect other people greatly. Bojack is a self-loathing yet narcissistic horse who is constantly trying to find a way get better but finds it easier to stick to his own self-destructive habits which he still hates. By the end of season 4 however, he discovers in the midst of a drug-fueled epiphany that he's a good person worthy of redemption, and follows the others' lead in downtrodden expectations with a grain of hope. However, this doesn't exactly mean the show is going on a constant upward scale from here. Season 5 was much DarkerAndEdgier than the more colorful previous season revealing Bojack is still struggling to become better. By season 5 though he finally takes a forceful decision to [[spoiler: go to rehab after he choked his girlfriend/co-star Gina not on purpose but due to drugs, felt horrible about it, and realized this is another wake up call to finally need help]].
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheOwlHouse'' is idealistic at its core. Despite taking place in a horrific landscape where the society shows [[TheSocialDarwinist social Darwinism]] and is ruled by a dictatorship/quasi-cult, supporting or background characters more often than not show [[RousseauWasRight they have good hearts or better sides]]. Given some empathy and mercy, many become loyal companions (and in Amity's case, [[spoiler:a loving girlfriend]]) Main character Luz's kind heart is consistently shown to change the lives of those around her for the better (even if she starts to think otherwise later on), and positive relationships are a big focus.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheOwlHouse'' is idealistic at its core.despite having a setting that would seem cynical. Despite taking place in a horrific landscape where the society shows [[TheSocialDarwinist social Darwinism]] and is ruled by a dictatorship/quasi-cult, supporting or background characters more often than not show [[RousseauWasRight they have good hearts or better sides]]. Given some empathy and mercy, many become loyal companions (and in Amity's case, [[spoiler:a loving girlfriend]]) Main character Luz's kind heart is consistently shown to change the lives of those around her for the better (even if she starts to think otherwise later on), and positive relationships are a big focus. [[spoiler:This comes to a head in the finale, when Luz manages to redeem The Collector and even states, "People are complex. And sometimes they just need a little kindness and forgiveness." And while The Collector's attempt to forgive and hug it out with [[BigBad Belos/Philip]] backfires horribly and he goes to his grave unrepentantly pure evil, it's clear that he's the exception rather than the rule. In the end, everybody [[EarnYourHappyEnding gets a happy ending.]]]]
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* ''WesternAnimation/CloneHigh'' has a more cynical edge than ''Creator/PhilLordAndChrisMiller'''s other projects. The series serves as an irreverent take on TeenDrama shows of the 90s and 2000s. It's also mixed in with social satire and a subplot involving secret government agents who only create a school for clones so they can prepare them for a deadly army. That said, it's not too far down on the scale either. Most of the episodes do still end with a happy ending and there are characters who will ultimately do the right thing in the end. Overall, it's more down the middle.

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* ''WesternAnimation/CloneHigh'' has a more cynical edge than ''Creator/PhilLordAndChrisMiller'''s other projects. The series serves as an irreverent take on TeenDrama shows of the 90s ''Series/DawsonsCreek'' and 2000s. ''Series/BeverlyHills90210'' generation. It's also mixed in with social satire and a subplot involving secret government agents who only create a school for clones only so they can prepare them for to join a deadly army. That said, it's not too far down on the scale cynical side either. Most of the episodes do still end with have a happy ending and there are characters who will ultimately do the right thing in thing. Some of the end.JerkAss characters like JFK do have a lot of character development that ''[[TookALevelInKindness changes them for the better]]. Overall, it's more down the middle.
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* ''WesternAnimation/CloneHigh'' has more of a cynical edge than most of ''Creator/PhilLordAndChrisMiller'''s projects. The series mostly serves as an irreverent take on TeenDrama shows of its time built around humor mocking the corny tone and storylines that come with those shows. It's also mixed in with some social satire and a subplot involving secret government agents who only create a school for clones so they can prepare them for a deadly army. That said, it's not too far down on the scale either. Most of the episodes do still end with a happy ending and there are characters who will ultimately do the right thing in the end. Overall, it's more down the middle.

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* ''WesternAnimation/CloneHigh'' has a more of a cynical edge than most of ''Creator/PhilLordAndChrisMiller'''s other projects. The series mostly serves as an irreverent take on TeenDrama shows of its time built around humor mocking the corny tone 90s and storylines that come with those shows. 2000s. It's also mixed in with some social satire and a subplot involving secret government agents who only create a school for clones so they can prepare them for a deadly army. That said, it's not too far down on the scale either. Most of the episodes do still end with a happy ending and there are characters who will ultimately do the right thing in the end. Overall, it's more down the middle.
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* ''WesternAnimation/CloneHigh'' has more of a cynical edge than most of ''Creator/PhilLordAndChrisMiller'''s projects. The series mostly serves as an irreverent take on TeenDrama shows of its time built around humor mocking the corny tone and storylines that come with those shows. It's also mixed in with some social satire and a subplot involving secret government agents who only create a school for clones so they can prepare them for a deadly army. That said, it's not too far down on the scale either. Most of the episodes do still end with a happy ending and there are characters who will ultimately do the right thing in the end. Overall, it's more down the middle.
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Invincible2021}}'' Initially starts off in episode 1 as a lighthearted superhero show that focuses on a group of superheroes defeating two supervillains. It starts off very idealisticly with the main character Mark Grayson achieving his superpowers that is until it gets into the credits scene of it's first episode. [[spoiler: In the credits, Omni-Man betrays his superhero friends by gruesomely murdering all of them in a horrifying fashion which completely throws off the idealistic mood of the series and replaces it with seriousness.]] In later episodes, Mark Grayson's [[KnightInSourArmour idealistic attitude for heroism starts to become more jaded and sour]] as he is forced to deal with the deaths of multiple people and get into multiple curb-stomping battles that gets him [[BodyHorror heavily injured]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Invincible2021}}'' ''WesternAnimation/Invincible2021'' Initially starts off in episode 1 as a lighthearted superhero show that focuses on a group of superheroes defeating two supervillains. It starts off very idealisticly with the main character Mark Grayson achieving his superpowers that is until it gets into the credits scene of it's first episode. [[spoiler: In the credits, Omni-Man betrays his superhero friends by gruesomely murdering all of them in a horrifying fashion which completely throws off the idealistic mood of the series and replaces it with seriousness.]] In later episodes, Mark Grayson's [[KnightInSourArmour idealistic attitude for heroism starts to become more jaded and sour]] as he is forced to deal with the deaths of multiple people and get into multiple curb-stomping battles that gets him [[BodyHorror heavily injured]].
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* ''WesternAnimation/CloudyWithAChanceOfMeatballs2017'' is basically in the mixed side of the scale. While the main protagonists (Flint and Sam) are happy-go-lucky and idealistic, they live in a town where most of the townsfolk are jerks that love to mistreat the innocent at worst and [[[JerkWithAHeartOfGold jerks with hearts of gold]] at best. Despite the sadistic tone, the main protagonists always survive in the end and [[EarnYourHappyEnding all goes well for them]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/CloudyWithAChanceOfMeatballs2017'' is basically in the mixed side of the scale. While the main protagonists (Flint and Sam) are happy-go-lucky and idealistic, they live in a town where most of the townsfolk are jerks that love to mistreat the innocent at worst and [[[JerkWithAHeartOfGold [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold jerks with hearts of gold]] at best. Despite the sadistic tone, the main protagonists always survive in the end and [[EarnYourHappyEnding all goes well for them]].
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Amphibia}}'' is on the idealistic end. Sure, the setting is a DeathWorld where unimportant characters often die and it's played for BlackComedy, but a recurring theme of the show is changing for the better. Anne learns to be less selfish and becomes a loved member of the Plantar family and Wartwood, most of whom are good people, and even Mayor Toadstool eventually becomes a better toad. Sasha learns the error of her ways and redeems herself, and [[spoiler:even King Andrias turns out to be a much more complex figure with a major FreudianExcuse than a psychotic tyrant, and eventually turns to the good side.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/InsideJob2021'' is an utterly cynical series set in a CrapsackWorld where conspiracy theories are true and the ones behind the conspiracies are self centered jerkasses (Rand Ridley, we’re looking at you). Though it isn't ''totally'' bleak, as Reagan still desires to change the world for the better despite everything, the Department heads become genuine friends, and [[spoiler:even ''Rand'' is revealed to have humanizing traits (though he's still an asshole) in the Part 2 finale]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/InsideJob2021'' is an utterly cynical series set in a CrapsackWorld where conspiracy theories are true and the ones behind the conspiracies are self centered jerkasses (Rand Ridley, we’re looking at you). Though it isn't ''totally'' bleak, as Reagan still desires to change the world for the better despite everything, the Department heads become genuine friends, and [[spoiler:even ''Rand'' is revealed to have humanizing traits (though he's still an asshole) in the Part 2 finale]].

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* ‘’WesternAnimation/InsideJob2021’’ is an utterly cynical series set in a CrapsackWorld where conspiracy theories are true and the ones behind the conspiracies are self centered jerkasses (Rand Ridley, we’re looking at you).

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* ‘’WesternAnimation/InsideJob2021’’ ''WesternAnimation/InsideJob2021'' is an utterly cynical series set in a CrapsackWorld where conspiracy theories are true and the ones behind the conspiracies are self centered jerkasses (Rand Ridley, we’re looking at you).you). Though it isn't ''totally'' bleak, as Reagan still desires to change the world for the better despite everything, the Department heads become genuine friends, and [[spoiler:even ''Rand'' is revealed to have humanizing traits (though he's still an asshole) in the Part 2 finale]].


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* ''WesternAnimation/TheOwlHouse'' is idealistic at its core. Despite taking place in a horrific landscape where the society shows [[TheSocialDarwinist social Darwinism]] and is ruled by a dictatorship/quasi-cult, supporting or background characters more often than not show [[RousseauWasRight they have good hearts or better sides]]. Given some empathy and mercy, many become loyal companions (and in Amity's case, [[spoiler:a loving girlfriend]]) Main character Luz's kind heart is consistently shown to change the lives of those around her for the better (even if she starts to think otherwise later on), and positive relationships are a big focus.
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* ‘’WesternAnimation/InsideJob2021’’ is an utterly cynical series set in a CrapsackWorld where conspiracy theories are true and the ones behind the conspiracies are self centered jerkasses (Rand Ridley, we’re looking at you).
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* Even though ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' can be DarkerAndEdgier in its themes, even going towards subjects of paranoia and racism, its still leaning towards the optimistic end of the spectrum...

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* Even though ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans2003'' can be DarkerAndEdgier in its themes, even going towards subjects of paranoia and racism, its still leaning towards the optimistic end of the spectrum...
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{WITCH}}'': For a show in which each season is essentially the story of a CivilWar, it comes down incredibly hard on the Idealistic side. And it's not just the NonLethalWarfare - though it does often seem to be [[InvokedTrope invoked]] from the Guardians' side, to the point that they SaveTheVillain {{mooks}} multiple times in the first season alone ([[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe and benefit from it]]). Only two characters are depicted being actually killed - Will's Altermere in "H is for Hunted" and Cassidy in the backstory (both by Nerissa).
** In the first season, Meridian has been under the thumb of an oppressive tyrant for over a decade. Yet hope and optimism are in the air, not only among [[{{Muggles}} the regular inhabitants]] but among LaResistance as well - which actually grows ''stronger'' leading up to the finale, despite many setbacks.
** In the DarkerAndEdgier second season, it's outright {{lampshaded}}. When a group of villains goes as far as to attack the heroines on Earth (including their families), and one of them explicitly goes out of his way to make said heroines hate him [[EmotionEater on purpose]], their battle ends with this:
--->'''Will:''' Compassion and mercy are more powerful than hate, [[spoiler:Shagon]]. I can teach you that.
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* Interestingly ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants'' is a similar concept that slowly drifted from one to the other. The show was originally cheerful and vaguely sentimental with [=SpongeBob=] being somewhat relatable and most of his bumbling being treated sympathetically or as LaserGuidedKarma to meaner spirited characters. After the creator Stephen Hillenburg left the series, however, the humor slowly became darker and [=SpongeBob=] also became more insane and the consequences of his constant stupidity often shown to be harrowing and life destroying for innocent people. Other characters like Mr Krabs also became far more malicious ([[KarmaHoudini and unlike before didn't always fall victim to karma]]). However, some of the series' old charm is clawing its way back and working its way to the idealistic Movie finale.

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* Interestingly ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants'' is a similar concept that slowly drifted from one to the other. The show was originally cheerful and vaguely sentimental with [=SpongeBob=] being somewhat relatable and most of his bumbling being treated sympathetically or as LaserGuidedKarma to meaner spirited characters. After the creator Stephen Hillenburg left the series, however, the humor slowly became darker and [=SpongeBob=] also became more insane and the consequences of his constant stupidity often shown to be harrowing and life destroying for innocent people. Other characters like Mr Krabs also became far more malicious ([[KarmaHoudini and unlike before didn't always fall victim to karma]]). However, some of the series' old charm is clawing its way back and working its way to the idealistic Movie finale.back.
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** ''WesternAnimation/ReadyJetGo'': Despite the snarky jokes and the fact that the entire cast is [[DysfunctionJunction broken deep inside]], the show is about overcoming your personal struggles, the beauty of imperfection, and learning to love yourself and others. The world is seen through the optimistic Jet's eyes as a planet full of wonder and beauty, even amidst the hidden anxiety and loneliness that plague Boxwood Terrace.

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** ''WesternAnimation/ReadyJetGo'': Despite the snarky jokes and the fact that the entire cast is [[DysfunctionJunction broken deep inside]], the The show is about overcoming your personal struggles, the beauty of imperfection, and learning to love yourself and others. The world is seen through the optimistic Jet's eyes as a planet full of wonder and beauty, even amidst the hidden anxiety and loneliness that plague Boxwood Terrace.beauty.
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* ''WesternAnimation/CloudyWithAChanceOfMeatballs2017'' is basically in the mixed side of the scale. While the main protagonists (Flint and Sam) are happy-go-lucky and idealistic, they live in a town where most of the townsfolk are jerks that love to mistreat the innocent at worst and [[[JerkWithAHeartOfGold jerks with hearts of gold]] at best. Despite the sadistic tone, the main protagonists always survive in the end and [[EarnYourHappyEnding all goes well for them]].
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Centaurworld}}'' leans on the idealistic side....but ''just barely''. Even though the story mostly taking place in a colorful, vibrant, and silly world, there are some really dark, horrific, and disturbing elements, [[spoiler: ''especially'' when it gets into the backstory of the Nowhere King.]] Thankfully, the heartwarming moments, insightful messages, and likable characters prevent the series from leaning too far on the cynical end.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Centaurworld}}'' leans on the idealistic side....but ''just barely''. Even though the story mostly taking takes place in a colorful, vibrant, and silly world, there are some really dark, horrific, and disturbing elements, themes going on in the story, [[spoiler: ''especially'' when it gets into the backstory of the Nowhere King.]] Thankfully, the heartwarming moments, insightful messages, and likable characters prevent the series from leaning too far on the cynical end.side.
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Centaurworld}}'' leans more on the idealistic side....but ''just barely''. Even though the story mostly taking place in a colorful, vibrant, and silly world, there are some really dark, horrific, disturbing elements, [[spoiler: ''especially'' when it gets into the backstory of the Nowhere King.]] Thankfully, the heartwarming moments, insightful messages, and likable characters prevent the series from leaning too far on the cynical end.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Centaurworld}}'' leans more on the idealistic side....but ''just barely''. Even though the story mostly taking place in a colorful, vibrant, and silly world, there are some really dark, horrific, and disturbing elements, [[spoiler: ''especially'' when it gets into the backstory of the Nowhere King.]] Thankfully, the heartwarming moments, insightful messages, and likable characters prevent the series from leaning too far on the cynical end.
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* ''WesternAnimation/Centaurworld'' leans more on the idealistic side....but ''just barely''. Even though the story mostly taking place in a colorful, vibrant, and silly world, there are some really dark, horrific, disturbing elements, [[spoiler: ''especially'' when it gets into the backstory of the Nowhere King.]] Thankfully, the heartwarming moments, insightful messages, and likable characters prevent the series from leaning too far on the cynical end.

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* ''WesternAnimation/Centaurworld'' ''WesternAnimation/{{Centaurworld}}'' leans more on the idealistic side....but ''just barely''. Even though the story mostly taking place in a colorful, vibrant, and silly world, there are some really dark, horrific, disturbing elements, [[spoiler: ''especially'' when it gets into the backstory of the Nowhere King.]] Thankfully, the heartwarming moments, insightful messages, and likable characters prevent the series from leaning too far on the cynical end.
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* ''WesternAnimation/Centaurworld'' leans more on the idealistic side....but ''just barely''. Even though the story mostly taking place in a colorful, vibrant, and silly world, there are some really dark, horrific, disturbing elements, [[spoiler: ''especially'' when it gets into the backstory of the Nowhere King.]] Thankfully, the heartwarming moments, insightful messages, and likable characters prevent the series from leaning too far on the cynical end.
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* ''WesternAnimation/MonkeyDust'' is far down the cynical side of this scale. At times, takes BlackComedy UpToEleven to the extent that it's barely comedy anymore.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Invincible2021}}'' Initially starts off in episode 1 as a lighthearted superhero show that focuses on a group of superheroes defeating two supervillains. It starts off very idealisticly with the main character Mark Grayson achieving his superpowers that is until it gets into the credits scene of it's first episode. [[spoiler: In the credits, Omni-Man betrays his superhero friends by gruesomely murdering all of them in a horrifying fashion which completely throws off the idealistic mood of the series and replaces it with seriousness.]] In later episodes, Mark Grayson's [[KnightInSourArmour idealistic attitude for heroism starts to become more jaded and sour]] as he is forced to deal with the deaths of multiple people and get into multiple curb-stomping battles that gets him [[BodyHorror heavily injured]].
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** The [[SequelSeries epilogue]] [[MiniSeries limited series]], ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverseFuture'' is a little less idealistic as the previous series. It focuses on themes of mental trauma and how the events of the previous series have severely damaged Steven's mental and physical being. However, [[spoiler: after his friends help save him from himself in the episode ''I Am My Monster'', Steven does get a lot better]]. Overall, it does still lean on the idealistic side.

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** The [[SequelSeries epilogue]] [[MiniSeries limited series]], ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverseFuture'' is a little less idealistic as the previous series. It focuses on themes of mental trauma and This series shows [[InternalDeconstruction how the events of the previous series have severely damaged Steven's mental and physical being. However, being]]. Thankfully, [[spoiler: after his friends help save him from himself in the episode ''I Am My Monster'', Steven does get a lot better]]. Overall, it does still lean on the idealistic side.

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%%* ''WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil'' is incredibly idealistic overall, though many later episodes have become more cynical.

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** In particular, Creator/ChuckJones' shorts are often quite cynical and jaded in their humor; he was quite fond of portraying characters as hapless [[TheChewToy Chew Toys]] (such as Wile E. Coyote) and/or more nasty and flawed than the other directors (such as his iconic StrawLoser take on WesternAnimation/DaffyDuck, turning Bugs into a more vengeful, passive-aggressive trickster with somewhat less playfulness, creating Marvin, an alien villain who wants to destroy the earth for blocking his view of Venus, etc.). Some of his one-shots, like "Fresh Airedale", the Censored Eleven short "Angel Puss", and "Chow Hound" are some of the darkest cartoons in the entire franchise. Some of this was undoubtedly due to the input of Michael Maltese, who was the primary writer for Jones's unit from the mid-'40s through the late '50s. Following Maltese's departure, Jones's cartoons became considerably lighter and sometimes even sentimental in tone; likewise, Jones' earliest shorts (1938-early 1942) were very cutesy and {{Disneyesque}} in nature. However, Jones himself was quite a pessimist--in his biography, he quipped the following;
--->"Human beings will line up for miles to buy a bucket of catastrophes, but don't try selling sunshine and light — you'll go broke."
** Creator/RobertMcKimson's cartoons tend to have a cynical worldview. Almost all of his characters--even his interpretation of Bugs--are grumpy, middle aged curmudgeons, with the main contrasts in the different characters' personalities being how smart or how stupid the various curmudgeons were. Ironically, Rob himself was by all accounts a [[NiceGuy soft-spoken, conservative and pleasant fellow in real life.]]
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* ''WesternAnimation/SmilingFriends'' is in the middle, which is fairly idealistic for an Creator/AdultSwim cartoon. The Smiling Friends organization is genuinely interested in making people happy despite the Boss’s creepy moments, but run into difficulties due to the [[SurrealHumor bizarre]] and occasionally [[SurrealHorror horrifying]] nature of the world they live in. The protagonist Pim and Charlie represent two opposing sides, with Pim often being too idealistic for his own good while Charlie is often cynical in a defeatist fashion. Despite their difficulties, they always do manage to reach their assigned goal, but generally in a strange, darkly humorous or accidental fashion.

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* ''WesternAnimation/SmilingFriends'' is in the middle, which is fairly idealistic for an Creator/AdultSwim cartoon. The Smiling Friends organization is genuinely interested in making people happy despite the Boss’s creepy moments, but run into difficulties due to the [[SurrealHumor bizarre]] and occasionally [[SurrealHorror horrifying]] nature of the world they live in. The protagonist Pim and Charlie represent two opposing sides, with Pim often being too idealistic for his own good while Charlie is often cynical in a defeatist fashion. Despite their difficulties, they always do manage to reach their assigned goal, but generally in a strange, darkly humorous or accidental fashion. "Frowning Friends" best displays the show's status in the center by having the {{Aesop}} that extreme cynicism is just as silly and useless as extreme idealism.
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* ...Though this is entirely averted with ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansGo''. While the series is definitely a LighterAndSofter incarnation of the first show, this series is heavily irreverent and cynical. The Titans go through a AdaptationalJerkass phase where they boarder ComedicSociopathy and treat each other similar to how [[Characters/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphiaTheGang The Gang]] from ''Series/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia'' treat each other

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* ...Though this is entirely averted with ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansGo''. While the series is definitely a LighterAndSofter incarnation of the first show, this series is heavily irreverent and cynical. The Titans go through a AdaptationalJerkass phase where they boarder ComedicSociopathy and treat each other similar to how [[Characters/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphiaTheGang The Gang]] from ''Series/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia'' treat each otherother.
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* ''WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman'' is cynically optimistic. Its a very interesting example because the tone of each season seems to shift from something that is overall DarkerAndEdgier than shifts to LighterAndSofter and then back to a season that is DarkerAndEdgier again. The started off as slightly more optimistic than WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty but by season 4, the show was established as a great mix of heartwarming optimism with harsh cynicism. The show's ultimate message is love and happiness are definitely obtainable but not easily so. Characters face such complex obstacles with others and their own emotions that they sometimes make hurtful emotional choices or reasonable good-hearted choices that affect other people greatly. Bojack is a self-loathing yet narcissistic horse who is constantly trying to find a way get better but finds it easier to stick to his own self-destructive habits which he still hates. By the end of season 4 however, he discovers in the midst of a drug-fueled epiphany that he's a good person worthy of redemption, and follows the others' lead in downtrodden expectations with a grain of hope. However, this doesn't exactly mean the show is going on a constant upward scale from here. Season 5 was much DarkerAndEdgier than the more colorful previous season revealing Bojack is still struggling to become better. By season 5 though he finally takes a forceful decision to [[spoiler: go to rehab after he choked his girlfriend/co-star Gina not on purpose but due to drugs, felt horrible about it, and realized this is another wake up call to finally need help]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman'' is cynically optimistic. Its It's a very interesting example because the tone of each season seems to shift from something that is overall DarkerAndEdgier than shifts to LighterAndSofter and then back to a season that is DarkerAndEdgier again. The started off as slightly more optimistic than WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty but by season 4, the show was established as a great mix of heartwarming optimism with harsh cynicism. The show's ultimate message is love and happiness are definitely obtainable but not easily so. Characters face such complex obstacles with others and their own emotions that they sometimes make hurtful emotional choices or reasonable good-hearted choices that affect other people greatly. Bojack is a self-loathing yet narcissistic horse who is constantly trying to find a way get better but finds it easier to stick to his own self-destructive habits which he still hates. By the end of season 4 however, he discovers in the midst of a drug-fueled epiphany that he's a good person worthy of redemption, and follows the others' lead in downtrodden expectations with a grain of hope. However, this doesn't exactly mean the show is going on a constant upward scale from here. Season 5 was much DarkerAndEdgier than the more colorful previous season revealing Bojack is still struggling to become better. By season 5 though he finally takes a forceful decision to [[spoiler: go to rehab after he choked his girlfriend/co-star Gina not on purpose but due to drugs, felt horrible about it, and realized this is another wake up call to finally need help]].
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* Another more idealistic adult-oriented cartoon is ''WesternAnimation/BobsBurgers''. The Belcher family go through small, relatable dilemma's, but in the end they all have each other to get through hard times. They all love each other deeply and we love them because of it.

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* Another more idealistic adult-oriented cartoon is ''WesternAnimation/BobsBurgers''. The Belcher family go through small, relatable dilemma's, dilemmas, but in the end they all have each other to get through hard times. They all love each other deeply and we love them because of it.

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