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* HordeOfAlienLocusts: The Akrida are bug-like [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations]] said to consume entire worlds. In fact, the word ''akrida'' is Ancient Greek for "locust", and they're most likely a reference to the "locusts" ([[CallASmeerpARabbit described far more monstrously than real locusts]]) in the Book of Revelation. [[spoiler:[[OmnicidalManiac Chuck]] created them to destroy everything in the event that anyone ever managed to defeat him]].

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* HordeOfAlienLocusts: The Akrida are bug-like [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations]] said to consume entire worlds. In fact, the word ''akrida'' is Ancient Greek for "locust", and they're most likely a reference to the "locusts" ([[CallASmeerpARabbit described far more monstrously than real locusts]]) in the Book of Revelation. [[spoiler:[[OmnicidalManiac Chuck]] from ''Supernatural'' created them to destroy everything in the event that anyone ever managed to defeat him]].
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* HiveQueen: The Akrida have a queen whom their existence in this dimension is tied to, and any Akrida connected to her will die if she does. [[spoiler:In the finale of the first season, "Hey, That's No Way to Say Goodbye", it turns out that the queen is not actually an Akrida herself; she's a former hunter and [[WasOnceAMan former human]] named Joan Hopkins from the 17th century who lost all her family and loved ones fighting monsters and stopping apocalypses so she came to believe that weak humanity, always needing saving by hunters, was the problem and decided to PutThemAllOutOfMyMisery, consuming the essences of monsters to become powerful enough to KillAllHumans. After the Men of Letters banished her, she ended up in the Akrida dimension and gave them a new purpose. This actually makes her closer to a regular queen, apart from the Akrida being connected to her]].

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* HiveQueen: The Akrida have a queen whom their existence in this dimension is tied to, and any Akrida connected to her will die if she does. [[spoiler:In the finale of the first season, "Hey, That's No Way to Say Goodbye", it turns out that the queen is not actually an Akrida herself; she's a former hunter and [[WasOnceAMan former human]] named Joan Hopkins from the 17th century who lost all her family and loved ones fighting monsters and stopping apocalypses so apocalypses. So she came to believe that weak humanity, always needing saving by hunters, was the problem and decided to PutThemAllOutOfMyMisery, consuming the essences of monsters to become powerful enough to KillAllHumans. After the Men of Letters banished her, she ended up in the Akrida dimension and gave them a new purpose. This actually makes her closer to a regular queen, apart from the Akrida being connected to her]].
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* LighterAndSofter: While the series still depicts monsters and bloodshed, it doesn't get as dark or cynical as ''Supernatural'' had been known to get, likely because the core four are younger than the Winchester brothers were.

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* LighterAndSofter: While the series still depicts monsters and bloodshed, it doesn't get as dark or cynical as ''Supernatural'' had been known to get, likely because the core four are younger than the Winchester brothers were. You can also tell from the dialogue that this series was written post mental wellness revolution.
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* LighterAndSofter: While the series still depicts monsters and bloodshed, it doesn't get quite as dark or cynical as ''Supernatural'' had been known to get, likely because the core four are younger than the Winchester brothers were.

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* LighterAndSofter: While the series still depicts monsters and bloodshed, it doesn't get quite as dark or cynical as ''Supernatural'' had been known to get, likely because the core four are younger than the Winchester brothers were.
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* LighterAndSofter: While the series doesn't shy away from bloodshed, it doesn't get quite as dark or cynical as ''Supernatural'' had been known to get, likely because the core four are younger than the Winchester brothers were.

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* LighterAndSofter: While the series doesn't shy away from still depicts monsters and bloodshed, it doesn't get quite as dark or cynical as ''Supernatural'' had been known to get, likely because the core four are younger than the Winchester brothers were.
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* LighterAndSofter: While the series doesn't shy away from bloodshed, it doesn't get quite as dark or cynical as ''Supernatural'' had been known to get, likely because the main characters are younger than the Winchester brothers were.

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* LighterAndSofter: While the series doesn't shy away from bloodshed, it doesn't get quite as dark or cynical as ''Supernatural'' had been known to get, likely because the main characters core four are younger than the Winchester brothers were.
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* LighterAndSofter: While the series doesn't shy away from bloodshed, it doesn't get quite as dark or cynical as ''Supernatural'' had been known to get, likely because the main characters are younger than the Winchester brothers were.
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* MrFanservice: John is [[ShirtlessScene shirtless]] in his training scene with Mary in "Masters of War", and wearing a tank top afterwards.
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* InSpiteOfANail: [[spoiler:The Men of Letters, including Henry Winchester, disappeared in both this alternate universe and the original ''Supernatural'' universe, with basically identical practical effects in both universes such as John growing up believing that his dad abandoned him, even though the causes were different. In this timeline, it was the Akrida queen who wiped them out, whereas in ''Supernatural'' it was the demon Abaddon]].

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* InSpiteOfANail: [[spoiler:The Men of Letters, including Henry Winchester, disappeared in both this alternate universe and the original ''Supernatural'' universe, with basically identical practical effects in both universes such as John growing up believing that his dad abandoned him, even though the causes were different. In this timeline, universe, it was the Akrida queen who wiped them out, whereas in ''Supernatural'' it was the demon Abaddon]].



* {{Prequel}}: ''The Winchesters'' is a prequel to ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' and is set before Sam and Dean's births. There are indications, however, that it's actually an AlternateTimeline: in the ''Supernatural'' episode [[Recap/SupernaturalS04E03InTheBeginning "In the Beginning"]], set a year after this show begins, John has no knowledge of the supernatural and has explicitly never hunted. In the pilot of ''The Winchesters'' he joins up with Mary, Carlos and Lata because he goes to the Men of Letters clubhouse in Lawrence and witnesses Mary fighting with a demon outside. This happens because an unknown man gave him a letter from his father, Henry. [[spoiler:A later episode reveals that a self-resurrected, dimension-hopping Dean, from the original show, was the man in question, suggesting that his intervention changed history for this reality]].

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* {{Prequel}}: ''The Winchesters'' is a prequel to ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' and is set before Sam and Dean's births. There are indications, however, that it's actually an AlternateTimeline: alternate universe: in the ''Supernatural'' episode [[Recap/SupernaturalS04E03InTheBeginning "In the Beginning"]], set a year after this show begins, John has no knowledge of the supernatural and has explicitly never hunted. In the pilot of ''The Winchesters'' he joins up with Mary, Carlos and Lata because he goes to the Men of Letters clubhouse in Lawrence and witnesses Mary fighting with a demon outside. This happens because an unknown man gave him a letter from his father, Henry. [[spoiler:A later episode reveals that a self-resurrected, dimension-hopping Dean, from the original show, was the man in question, suggesting that his intervention changed history for this reality]].



** The season finale finally explains everything: [[spoiler: Dean ''didn't'' time travel; after his death in the series finale of ''Supernatural'', he traveled TheMultiverse to find a universe where his family had a happier path, confirming that ''The Winchesters'' is in an AlternateTimeline from the original show (explaining all the discrepancies). Also, the Akrida were created by [[GodIsEvil Chuck]] as a backup plan to destroy everything if he lost.]]

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** The season finale finally explains everything: [[spoiler: Dean ''didn't'' time travel; after his death in the series finale of ''Supernatural'', he traveled TheMultiverse to find a universe where his family had a happier path, confirming that ''The Winchesters'' is in an AlternateTimeline alternate universe from the original show (explaining all the discrepancies). Also, the Akrida were created by [[GodIsEvil Chuck]] as a backup plan to destroy everything if he lost.]]



* SeriesContinuityError: The vampires in "Cast Your Fate to the Wind" are affected by holy water, which was established in ''Supernatural'' as not doing anything to them. [[spoiler: Justified by TheReveal that ''The Winchesters'' is set in a different universe, as ''Supernatural'' had established that different timelines have different rules for their magic and monsters.]]

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* SeriesContinuityError: The vampires in "Cast Your Fate to the Wind" are affected by holy water, which was established in ''Supernatural'' as not doing anything to them. [[spoiler: Justified by TheReveal that ''The Winchesters'' is set in a different universe, as ''Supernatural'' had established that different timelines universes have different rules for their magic and monsters.]]
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* WrongfulAccusationInsurance: [[spoiler:At the end of "The Tears of a Clown", finding a witness who can testify that (Akrida-controlled) Kyle lied about being attacked by John in his emergency call to the police is enough to get John cleared of all charges so that he and Mary can return to Lawrence. This is despite the fact that John illegally escaped custody and Mary is known to have helped him do it, assaulting and disabling police officers in the process, which in RealLife would ''still'' result in jail time for both of them]].

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* WrongfulAccusationInsurance: [[spoiler:At the end of "The Tears of a Clown", finding a witness who can testify that (Akrida-controlled) Akrida-controlled Kyle lied about being attacked by John in his emergency call to the police is enough to get John cleared of all charges so that he and Mary can return to Lawrence. This is despite the fact that John illegally escaped custody and Mary is known to have helped him do it, assaulting and disabling police officers in the process, which in RealLife would ''still'' result in jail time for both of them]].
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* InSpiteOfANail: [[spoiler:The Men of Letters, including Henry Winchester, disappeared in both this AlternateTimeline and the original ''Supernatural'' universe, with basically identical practical effects in both timelines such as John growing up believing that his dad abandoned him, even though the causes were different. In this timeline, it was the Akrida queen who wiped them out, whereas in ''Supernatural'' it was the demon Abaddon]].

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* InSpiteOfANail: [[spoiler:The Men of Letters, including Henry Winchester, disappeared in both this AlternateTimeline alternate universe and the original ''Supernatural'' universe, with basically identical practical effects in both timelines universes such as John growing up believing that his dad abandoned him, even though the causes were different. In this timeline, it was the Akrida queen who wiped them out, whereas in ''Supernatural'' it was the demon Abaddon]].

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* MasculineGirlFeminineBoy: John's parents; Millie is a tough WrenchWench who succeeded her father in a traditionally masculine occupation, owning and operating her own garage, while Henry was a mild-mannered Man of Letters trained to fight the supernatural with book knowledge rather than brute force and [[SharpDressedMan wore a well-tailored suit]].



* WrenchWench: Millie Winchester is a mechanic who owns and operates her own garage.

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* WrenchWench: Millie Winchester is a mechanic who owns and operates her own garage.the Winchesters Garage.

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* StealthSequel: Despite the series being billed as a prequel, [[spoiler:the finale confirms that despite chronologically taking place before Sam and Dean were even born, the series is in an alternate timeline influenced by a postmortem Dean, with other influences of Jack as the new God and a backup plan from former God Chuck.]]

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* StealthSequel: Despite the series being billed as a prequel, [[spoiler:the finale confirms that despite chronologically taking place before Sam and Dean were even born, the series is takes place after the events of ''Supernatural'', in an alternate timeline universe where it's still the 70s, influenced by a postmortem Dean, with other influences of Jack as the new God and a backup plan from former God Chuck.]]
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* StealthSequel: Despite the series being billed as a prequel, [[spoiler:the finale confirms that despite chronologically taking place before Sam and Dean were even born, the series is in an alternate timeline influenced by a postmortem Dean, with other influences of Jack as the new God and a backup plan from former God Chuck.]]
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* HordeOfAlienLocusts: The Akrida are bug-like [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations]] said to consume entire worlds. In fact, the word ''akrida'' is Ancient Greek for "locust", and they're most likely a reference to the "locusts" ([[[[CallASmeerpARabbit described far more monstrously than real locusts]]) in the Book of Revelation. [[spoiler:[[OmnicidalManiac Chuck]] created them to destroy everything in the event that anyone ever managed to defeat him]].

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* HordeOfAlienLocusts: The Akrida are bug-like [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations]] said to consume entire worlds. In fact, the word ''akrida'' is Ancient Greek for "locust", and they're most likely a reference to the "locusts" ([[[[CallASmeerpARabbit ([[CallASmeerpARabbit described far more monstrously than real locusts]]) in the Book of Revelation. [[spoiler:[[OmnicidalManiac Chuck]] created them to destroy everything in the event that anyone ever managed to defeat him]].
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* HordeOfAlienLocusts: The Akrida are bug-like [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations]] said to consume entire worlds. In fact, the word ''akrida'' is Ancient Greek for "locust", and they're most likely a reference to the "locusts" (described far more monstrously than real locusts) in the Book of Revelation. [[spoiler:[[OmnicidalManiac Chuck]] created them to destroy everything in the event that anyone ever managed to defeat him]].

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* HordeOfAlienLocusts: The Akrida are bug-like [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations]] said to consume entire worlds. In fact, the word ''akrida'' is Ancient Greek for "locust", and they're most likely a reference to the "locusts" (described ([[[[CallASmeerpARabbit described far more monstrously than real locusts) locusts]]) in the Book of Revelation. [[spoiler:[[OmnicidalManiac Chuck]] created them to destroy everything in the event that anyone ever managed to defeat him]].
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* HordeOfAlienLocusts: The Akrida are bug-like [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations]] said to consume entire worlds. In fact, the word ''akrida'' is Ancient Greek for "locust", and they're most likely a reference to the "locusts" (described far more monstrously than real locusts) in the Book of Revelations. [[spoiler:[[OmnicidalManiac Chuck]] created them to destroy everything in the event that anyone ever managed to defeat him]].

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* HordeOfAlienLocusts: The Akrida are bug-like [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations]] said to consume entire worlds. In fact, the word ''akrida'' is Ancient Greek for "locust", and they're most likely a reference to the "locusts" (described far more monstrously than real locusts) in the Book of Revelations.Revelation. [[spoiler:[[OmnicidalManiac Chuck]] created them to destroy everything in the event that anyone ever managed to defeat him]].

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* HordeOfAlienLocusts: The Akrida are bug-like [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations]] said to consume entire worlds. [[spoiler:[[OmnicidalManiac Chuck]] created them to destroy everything in the event that anyone ever managed to defeat him]].

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* HordeOfAlienLocusts: The Akrida are bug-like [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations]] said to consume entire worlds. In fact, the word ''akrida'' is Ancient Greek for "locust", and they're most likely a reference to the "locusts" (described far more monstrously than real locusts) in the Book of Revelations. [[spoiler:[[OmnicidalManiac Chuck]] created them to destroy everything in the event that anyone ever managed to defeat him]].
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[[https://deadline.com/2023/05/the-winchesters-canceled-the-cw-new-home-supernatural-prequel-1235357935/ The series was canceled in 2023]], [[https://deadline.com/2023/06/the-winchesters-dead-no-season-2-new-home-canceled-1235399491/ with attempts of finding a new home being unsuccessful]], ending the series with just one season.
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** The incantation the team use to contact Henry Winchester's spirit in "Reflections" is the same one used to communicate with Bobby Singer in Heaven in [[Recap/SupernaturalS10E17InsideMan "Inside Man"]].
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* MoreDiverseSequel: More Diverse Prequel. All the main cast members in ''Supernatural'' were white; here three of them are people of color: Carlos is Hispanic, Lata is South Asian, and Ada is black. Also, Carlos is unambiguously bisexual, whereas if any ''Supernatural'' main characters were LGTBQA+ it was left to subtext, till Cas made his love for Dean verbally clear in the final episode.

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* MoreDiverseSequel: More Diverse Prequel. All the main cast members in ''Supernatural'' were white; here three of them are people of color: Carlos is Hispanic, Lata is South Asian, and Ada is black. Also, Carlos is unambiguously bisexual, whereas if any ''Supernatural'' main characters were LGTBQA+ it was left to subtext, till Cas made his love for Dean verbally clear in the final antepenultimate episode.
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* HiveQueen: The Akrida have a queen whom their existence in this dimension is tied to, and any Akrida connected to her will die if she does. [[spoiler:In the finale of the first season, "Hey, That's No Way to Say Goodbye", it turns out that the queen is not actually an Akrida herself; she's a former hunter and [[WasOnceAMan former human]] named Joan Hopkins from the 17th century who lost all her family and loved ones fighting monsters and stopping apocalypses so she came to believe that weak humanity, always needing saving by hunters, was the problem and decided to PutThemAllOutOfMyMisery, consuming the essences of monsters to become powerful enough to KillAllHumans. After the Men of Letters banished her, she ended up in the Akrida dimension and gave them a new purpose]].

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* HiveQueen: The Akrida have a queen whom their existence in this dimension is tied to, and any Akrida connected to her will die if she does. [[spoiler:In the finale of the first season, "Hey, That's No Way to Say Goodbye", it turns out that the queen is not actually an Akrida herself; she's a former hunter and [[WasOnceAMan former human]] named Joan Hopkins from the 17th century who lost all her family and loved ones fighting monsters and stopping apocalypses so she came to believe that weak humanity, always needing saving by hunters, was the problem and decided to PutThemAllOutOfMyMisery, consuming the essences of monsters to become powerful enough to KillAllHumans. After the Men of Letters banished her, she ended up in the Akrida dimension and gave them a new purpose]].purpose. This actually makes her closer to a regular queen, apart from the Akrida being connected to her]].

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