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** All over the place. It's to be expected, since the show is produced by the same company that made ''TheTudors,'' which was known for not inviting realism over for tea.
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** All over the place. It's to be expected, since the show is produced by the same company that made ''TheTudors,'' ''Series/TheTudors,'' which was known for not inviting realism over for tea.
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** It also helps that he's a lot more progressive than many of the 'non evil' characters. Not just in his treatment of Jews (which at least had a self-serving aspect to it), but he also has no qualms appointing Giulia Fornese in charge of his finances and thoroughly stomping down on the opposition to it from his cardinals - or rather, letting her stomp down on it for herself. He also doesn't share many of the toxic attitudes towards women and doesn't think of his daughter or wife or mistresses as being lesser in intellect.
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* MaritalRapeLicense: Giovanna Sforza believes in this.
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* MaritalRapeLicense: Giovanna Giovanni Sforza believes in this.
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* EyeScream: Micheletto treats us to some by jamming his thumbs into a guard's eyes, ''[[{{Badass}} underwater]]'', in Naples ("The Moor").
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* EyeScream: Micheletto treats us to some by jamming his thumbs into a guard's eyes, ''[[{{Badass}} underwater]]'', ''underwater'', in Naples ("The Moor").
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* BadassGay: Micheletto is basically in Cesare's employ to torture or assassinate anyone who are an inconvenience to him. He definitely turns this trope UpToEleven.
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* ThePrince: Niccolo Machiavelli's hugely important political text was written, in part, in reaction to his encounters with Cesare when he was serving as Florentine diplomat. He shows up in "Lucrezia's Wedding" and tends to serve as Cesare's ''[[TheConsigliere consigliere]]''.
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** The presence of Machiavelli is an example too; the time frame isn't very clear after the 1492 title in the pilot episode, but most of the events depicted took place between 1492 and 1496 in real life. Machiavelli was elected head of the Second Chancery in 1498 and didn't hold any political position in Florence before that. Then again, the show seems to be under the impression that he worked for the Medici, so the year alone isn't the only bit of artistic license (in reality they were his arch enemies who had him imprisoned and tortured-many think he wrote his infamous book ''ThePrince'' in part as veiled criticism of them).
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** The presence of Machiavelli is an example too; the time frame isn't very clear after the 1492 title in the pilot episode, but most of the events depicted took place between 1492 and 1496 in real life. Machiavelli was elected head of the Second Chancery in 1498 and didn't hold any political position in Florence before that. Then again, the show seems to be under the impression that he worked for the Medici, so the year alone isn't the only bit of artistic license (in reality they were his arch enemies who had him imprisoned and tortured-many think he wrote his infamous book ''ThePrince'' ''Literature/ThePrince'' in part as veiled criticism of them).
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** Two other episodes share their titles with works of Creator/NiccoloMachiavelli, appropriately: "The Art of War" and the series finale "The Prince."
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** Isabella d'Este, wife of Francesco Gonzaga, was one of the most important women of Renaissance and even defined "The First Lady of the world". She was, however, cut out and in her place there is the fictional Bianca Gonzaga. As Leonardo, Isabella was connected to the Borgia: she later became Lucrezia's sister in law, and Lucrezia had a relationship with Isabella's husband.
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* ReallyGetsAround: About half the cast.
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* RoyalBrat: Juan.
** Alfonso of Naples, too.
** Alfonso of Naples, too.
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%% ** Alfonso of Naples, too.
%% ** Alfonso of Naples, too.
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** There's also Caterina Sforza's Harris hawk. Harris hawks are a North American species, and weren't brought to Europe until long after the time period of the series (whatever it is.)
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** Savonarola also. His loudness is justified when he actually ''is'' preaching to the public. Less so when Cesare and Machiavelli are two feet in front of him and he still yells at them.
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* AffablyEvil: How Creator/JeremyIrons played Rodrigo Borgia, to a tee.
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* AffablyEvil: AffablyEvil:
** How Creator/JeremyIrons played Rodrigo Borgia, to a tee.
** How Creator/JeremyIrons played Rodrigo Borgia, to a tee.
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* AnachronismStew: In "The Beautiful Deception" Rodrigo is worried because Lucrezia's refusal to nurse imperils her baby's health. In real life, there were wet nurses available.
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* AnachronismStew: AnachronismStew:
** In "The Beautiful Deception" Rodrigo is worried because Lucrezia's refusal to nurse imperils her baby's health. In real life, there were wet nurses available.
** In "The Beautiful Deception" Rodrigo is worried because Lucrezia's refusal to nurse imperils her baby's health. In real life, there were wet nurses available.
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* AndThereWasMuchRejoicing: Subverted when Rodrigo finds out about the death of [[spoiler: [[WorthyOpponent King Charles]]]]. Cardinals Sforza and Piccolomini are in high spirits, but Rodrigo quickly rebukes them and orders them each to recite three dozen rosaries for the soul of the deceased.
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* AndThereWasMuchRejoicing: AndThereWasMuchRejoicing:
** Subverted when Rodrigo finds out about the death of [[spoiler: [[WorthyOpponent King Charles]]]]. Cardinals Sforza and Piccolomini are in high spirits, but Rodrigo quickly rebukes them and orders them each to recite three dozen rosaries for the soul of the deceased.
** Subverted when Rodrigo finds out about the death of [[spoiler: [[WorthyOpponent King Charles]]]]. Cardinals Sforza and Piccolomini are in high spirits, but Rodrigo quickly rebukes them and orders them each to recite three dozen rosaries for the soul of the deceased.
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* ArrangedMarriage: All of the Borgia children, save Cesare, but poor Lucrezia really gets the worst of it.
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* ArrangedMarriage: ArrangedMarriage:
** All of the Borgia children, save Cesare, but poor Lucrezia really gets the worst of it.
** All of the Borgia children, save Cesare, but poor Lucrezia really gets the worst of it.
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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: All over the place. It's to be expected, since the show is produced by the same company that made ''TheTudors,'' which was known for not inviting realism over for tea.
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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: ArtisticLicenseHistory:
** All over the place. It's to be expected, since the show is produced by the same company that made ''TheTudors,'' which was known for not inviting realism over for tea.
** All over the place. It's to be expected, since the show is produced by the same company that made ''TheTudors,'' which was known for not inviting realism over for tea.
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* AsYouKnow: In "The Beautiful Deception", Rodrigo tells Juan that Juan must go back to "our ancestral homeland, Spain". Presumably Juan knows where his family comes from.
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* AsYouKnow: AsYouKnow:
** In "The Beautiful Deception", Rodrigo tells Juan that Juan must go back to "our ancestral homeland, Spain". Presumably Juan knows where his family comes from.
** In "The Beautiful Deception", Rodrigo tells Juan that Juan must go back to "our ancestral homeland, Spain". Presumably Juan knows where his family comes from.
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* AwesomeMomentOfCrowning: When Rodrigo becomes Pope.
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* AwesomeMomentOfCrowning: AwesomeMomentOfCrowning:
** When Rodrigo becomes Pope.
** When Rodrigo becomes Pope.
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* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: Ursula asks Cesare to "liberate" her from her husband... and when he [[MurderTheHypotenuse does]], she suffers a massive FreakOut and becomes a nun.
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* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor:
** Ursula asks Cesare to "liberate" her from her husband... and when he [[MurderTheHypotenuse does]], she suffers a massive FreakOut and becomes a nun.
** Ursula asks Cesare to "liberate" her from her husband... and when he [[MurderTheHypotenuse does]], she suffers a massive FreakOut and becomes a nun.
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* BerserkButton: Threaten Lucrezia in front of [[KnightTemplarBigBrother Cesare]], I dare you. For that matter, don't [[EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas call his mom a whore]], either.
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* BerserkButton: BerserkButton:
** Threaten Lucrezia in front of [[KnightTemplarBigBrother Cesare]], I dare you. For that matter, don't [[EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas call his mom a whore]], either.
** Threaten Lucrezia in front of [[KnightTemplarBigBrother Cesare]], I dare you. For that matter, don't [[EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas call his mom a whore]], either.
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* BewareTheNiceOnes: Lucrezia, Paolo the stable boy, and Francesca the maid have all suffered at Giovanni Sforza's hands, so they team up to make sure he himself suffers (in this case, a fall that immobilizes him).
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* BewareTheNiceOnes: BewareTheNiceOnes:
** Lucrezia, Paolo the stable boy, and Francesca the maid have all suffered at Giovanni Sforza's hands, so they team up to make sure he himself suffers (in this case, a fall that immobilizes him).
** Lucrezia, Paolo the stable boy, and Francesca the maid have all suffered at Giovanni Sforza's hands, so they team up to make sure he himself suffers (in this case, a fall that immobilizes him).
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* BlatantLies: Too many to count.
* BlingOfWar: Juan's fancy armor.
* BlingOfWar: Juan's fancy armor.
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** Juan's fancy armor.
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** Juan's fancy armor.
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* BlondeBrunetteRedhead: Lucrezia, Vannozza, and Giulia.
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* BloodKnight: King Charles, though subverted in that while he enjoys battles and war, he doesn't get involved in the actual fighting and killing. He also does have some feelings of remorse, if not for making war, but for reveling in it.
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* BloodKnight: BloodKnight:
** King Charles, though subverted in that while he enjoys battles and war, he doesn't get involved in the actual fighting and killing. He also does have some feelings of remorse, if not for making war, but for reveling in it.
** King Charles, though subverted in that while he enjoys battles and war, he doesn't get involved in the actual fighting and killing. He also does have some feelings of remorse, if not for making war, but for reveling in it.
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* BookEnds: Season 2 begins and ends with poisonings.
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* BookEnds: BookEnds:
** Season 2 begins and ends with poisonings.
** Season 2 begins and ends with poisonings.
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* BreakTheCutie: Poor, poor Lucrezia.
* BridalCarry: Cesare carrying the sleeping Lucrezia to bed on her wedding night.
* BridalCarry: Cesare carrying the sleeping Lucrezia to bed on her wedding night.
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%% * BreakTheCutie: Poor, poor Lucrezia.
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** Cesare carrying the sleeping Lucrezia to bed on her wedding night.
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** Cesare carrying the sleeping Lucrezia to bed on her wedding night.
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* BrotherSisterIncest: Long contested [[spoiler: and now canon as of season 3]].
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* BrotherSisterIncest: BrotherSisterIncest:
** Long contested [[spoiler: and now canonas of in season 3]].
** Long contested [[spoiler: and now canon
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* CainAndAbel: Cesare and Juan. In the end [[spoiler: utterly played straight, complete with Cesare asking if he's to be his brother's keeper.]]
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* CainAndAbel: CainAndAbel:
** Cesare and Juan. In the end [[spoiler: utterly played straight, complete with Cesare asking if he's to be his brother's keeper.]]
** Cesare and Juan. In the end [[spoiler: utterly played straight, complete with Cesare asking if he's to be his brother's keeper.]]
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* CityStateEra: The show takes place during this period of Italian history.
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* CorruptChurch: However bad Rodrigo may be, imagine how messed up the religious system that allowed him to come to power is.
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* CorruptChurch: CorruptChurch:
** However bad Rodrigo may be, imagine how messed up the religious system that allowed him to come to power is.
** However bad Rodrigo may be, imagine how messed up the religious system that allowed him to come to power is.
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* CostumePorn
* CountryMatters: "Source of disquiet."
* ColdBloodedTorture: Cesare and Micheletto love this. Perhaps a little too much.
* CountryMatters: "Source of disquiet."
* ColdBloodedTorture: Cesare and Micheletto love this. Perhaps a little too much.
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%% * CostumePorn
%% * CountryMatters: "Source of disquiet."
*ColdBloodedTorture: ColdBloodedTorture:
** Cesare and Micheletto love this. Perhaps a little too much.
%% * CountryMatters: "Source of disquiet."
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** Cesare and Micheletto love this. Perhaps a little too much.
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* CurbStompBattle: Theo is on the losing end of one from Juan, who is pissed off that people are gossiping that he's Theo's son instead of Rodrigo's. Vannozza is not pleased and throws him out of her house, and Rodrigo gives him a blistering [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech Reason You Suck Speech]] before slapping him and ordering him to beg forgiveness from his mother.
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* CurbStompBattle: CurbStompBattle:
** Theo is on the losing end of one from Juan, who is pissed off that people are gossiping that he's Theo's son instead of Rodrigo's. Vannozza is not pleased and throws him out of her house, and Rodrigo gives him a blistering [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech Reason You Suck Speech]] before slapping him and ordering him to beg forgiveness from his mother.
** Theo is on the losing end of one from Juan, who is pissed off that people are gossiping that he's Theo's son instead of Rodrigo's. Vannozza is not pleased and throws him out of her house, and Rodrigo gives him a blistering [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech Reason You Suck Speech]] before slapping him and ordering him to beg forgiveness from his mother.
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* DaddysGirl: Lucrezia to Rodrigo.
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* DancesAndBalls
* DatingCatwoman: Cesare and Caterina Sforza.
* [[DeadGuyOnDisplay Dead Guys On Display]]: Ask King Ferrante of Naples about his "Last Supper".
* DeadlyDecadentCourt
* DeadpanSnarker: Machiavelli. Rodrigo upon occasion as well, especially in the latter half of the first season.
* DatingCatwoman: Cesare and Caterina Sforza.
* [[DeadGuyOnDisplay Dead Guys On Display]]: Ask King Ferrante of Naples about his "Last Supper".
* DeadlyDecadentCourt
* DeadpanSnarker: Machiavelli. Rodrigo upon occasion as well, especially in the latter half of the first season.
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%% * DancesAndBalls
%% * DatingCatwoman: Cesare and Caterina Sforza.
*[[DeadGuyOnDisplay Dead Guys On Display]]: DeadGuyOnDisplay: Ask King Ferrante of Naples about his "Last Supper".
%% * DeadlyDecadentCourt
*DeadpanSnarker: DeadpanSnarker:
** Machiavelli. Rodrigo upon occasion as well, especially in the latter half of the first season.
%% * DatingCatwoman: Cesare and Caterina Sforza.
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** Machiavelli. Rodrigo upon occasion as well, especially in the latter half of the first season.
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* DomesticAbuser: Giovanni Sforza and Baron Bonadeo.
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%% * DomesticAbuser: Giovanni Sforza and Baron Bonadeo.
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* EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas: Do ''not'' insult Cesare's mother Vannozza by, say, calling her a Spanish whore. It will simply get your throat cut.
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* EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas: EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas:
** Do ''not'' insult Cesare's mother Vannozza by, say, calling her a Spanish whore. It will simply get your throat cut.
** Do ''not'' insult Cesare's mother Vannozza by, say, calling her a Spanish whore. It will simply get your throat cut.
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* EverybodyHasLotsOfSex
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* FauxAffablyEvil: Cesare, more and more each episode.
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* FiveBadBand
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* FiveBadBandFiveBadBand:
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* ForegoneConclusion: For anyone who knows [[Administrivia/SpoilersOff the real history]]. Della Rovere becomes Pope Julius II.
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* ForegoneConclusion: ForegoneConclusion:
** For anyone who knows [[Administrivia/SpoilersOff the real history]]. Della Rovere becomes Pope Julius II.
** For anyone who knows [[Administrivia/SpoilersOff the real history]]. Della Rovere becomes Pope Julius II.
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* GeneralFailure: Juan is bad at army stuff.
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* HistoricalBeautyUpdate: Apparent, but not to the same degree it was in ''TheTudors''. Except for a few differences in hair color, it's possible to picture that if Renaissance artists painted the actors in costume, they wouldn't look ''too'' dissimilar from their real counterparts, with the notable exception of Rodrigo. Even Creator/JeremyIrons thinks he doesn't look a thing like [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pope_Alexander_Vi.jpg the actual Rodrigo]] and that they probably should have cast someone like James Gandolfini.
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* HistoricalBeautyUpdate: HistoricalBeautyUpdate:
** Apparent, but not to the same degree it was in ''TheTudors''. Except for a few differences in hair color, it's possible to picture that if Renaissance artists painted the actors in costume, they wouldn't look ''too'' dissimilar from their real counterparts, with the notable exception of Rodrigo. Even Creator/JeremyIrons thinks he doesn't look a thing like [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pope_Alexander_Vi.jpg the actual Rodrigo]] and that they probably should have cast someone like James Gandolfini.
** Apparent, but not to the same degree it was in ''TheTudors''. Except for a few differences in hair color, it's possible to picture that if Renaissance artists painted the actors in costume, they wouldn't look ''too'' dissimilar from their real counterparts, with the notable exception of Rodrigo. Even Creator/JeremyIrons thinks he doesn't look a thing like [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pope_Alexander_Vi.jpg the actual Rodrigo]] and that they probably should have cast someone like James Gandolfini.
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* HistoricalInJoke: When news of [[spoiler: the death of Prince Alfonso of Naples]] spreads to Rome, Rodrigo laments that he would have been a good match for Lucrezia.
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* HistoricalInJoke: HistoricalInJoke:
** When news of [[spoiler: the death of Prince Alfonso of Naples]] spreads to Rome, Rodrigo laments that he would have been a good match for Lucrezia.
** When news of [[spoiler: the death of Prince Alfonso of Naples]] spreads to Rome, Rodrigo laments that he would have been a good match for Lucrezia.
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* HoistByHisOwnPetard: Lucrezia arranges for her DomesticAbuser huntsman husband to have a fall from his horse. When they're setting his broken leg, she tells him to "be brave", thoroughly enjoying the pain he's experiencing for once.
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* HoistByHisOwnPetard: HoistByHisOwnPetard:
** Lucrezia arranges for her DomesticAbuser huntsman husband to have a fall from his horse. When they're setting his broken leg, she tells him to "be brave", thoroughly enjoying the pain he's experiencing for once.
** Lucrezia arranges for her DomesticAbuser huntsman husband to have a fall from his horse. When they're setting his broken leg, she tells him to "be brave", thoroughly enjoying the pain he's experiencing for once.
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* HoneyPot: Pascal is one for Micheletto in Season 3.
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%% * HoneyPot: Pascal is one for Micheletto in Season 3.
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* TheHyena: Alfonso of Naples.
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* IncestSubtext: Lucrezia and Cesare. Unsurprisingly, due to the many contemporary allegations.
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* IncestSubtext: IncestSubtext:
** Lucrezia and Cesare. Unsurprisingly, due to the many contemporary allegations.
** Lucrezia and Cesare. Unsurprisingly, due to the many contemporary allegations.
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* InfantImmortality: Subverted with the French invasion of Lucca in "Death on a Pale Horse", where a young girl is skewered by one of the French soldiers.
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* InfantImmortality: InfantImmortality:
** Subverted with the French invasion of Lucca in "Death on a Pale Horse", where a young girl is skewered by one of the French soldiers.
** Subverted with the French invasion of Lucca in "Death on a Pale Horse", where a young girl is skewered by one of the French soldiers.
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* InTheBlood: Much is made of "Borgia blood", particularly by Giovanni Sforza "forgiving" Lucrezia the sin of her blood and informing her that when France invades Rome, her father, the source of the bad blood, will be deposed and killed.
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* InTheBlood: InTheBlood:
** Much is made of "Borgia blood", particularly by Giovanni Sforza "forgiving" Lucrezia the sin of her blood and informing her that when France invades Rome, her father, the source of the bad blood, will be deposed and killed.
** Much is made of "Borgia blood", particularly by Giovanni Sforza "forgiving" Lucrezia the sin of her blood and informing her that when France invades Rome, her father, the source of the bad blood, will be deposed and killed.
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* IronicEcho: Savonarola's prophecy in "The Borgias in Love" is echoed in "Death on a Pale Horse", when it finally hits Giuliano della Rovere that Savonarola foresaw the French invasion Giuliano della Rovere himself brought about.
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* IronicEcho: IronicEcho:
** Savonarola's prophecy in "The Borgias in Love" is echoed in "Death on a Pale Horse", when it finally hits Giuliano della Rovere that Savonarola foresaw the French invasion Giuliano della Rovere himself brought about.
** Savonarola's prophecy in "The Borgias in Love" is echoed in "Death on a Pale Horse", when it finally hits Giuliano della Rovere that Savonarola foresaw the French invasion Giuliano della Rovere himself brought about.
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* UsefulNotes/ItalianWars
* ItsAlwaysSpring: While remaining deliberately vague about the passing of time and moving some events up and down the time table for story-telling purposes, the first season seems to cover the years 1492-1495, but no sign of changing seasons is ever seen.
* ItsAlwaysSpring: While remaining deliberately vague about the passing of time and moving some events up and down the time table for story-telling purposes, the first season seems to cover the years 1492-1495, but no sign of changing seasons is ever seen.
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* UsefulNotes/ItalianWars
* ItsAlwaysSpring:ItsAlwaysSpring:
** While remaining deliberately vague about the passing of time and moving some events up and down the time table for story-telling purposes, the first season seems to cover the years 1492-1495, but no sign of changing seasons is ever seen.
* ItsAlwaysSpring:
** While remaining deliberately vague about the passing of time and moving some events up and down the time table for story-telling purposes, the first season seems to cover the years 1492-1495, but no sign of changing seasons is ever seen.
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* KickTheDog: Poor Theo gets his ass kicked by Juan basically for being a commoner and his mother's actual husband. He believes the local gossip that Theo is his real father, and not Rodrigo.
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* KickTheDog: KickTheDog:
** Poor Theo gets his ass kicked by Juan basically for being a commoner and his mother's actual husband. He believes the local gossip that Theo is his real father, and not Rodrigo.
** Poor Theo gets his ass kicked by Juan basically for being a commoner and his mother's actual husband. He believes the local gossip that Theo is his real father, and not Rodrigo.
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* KinkMeme: [[http://borgiaskink.livejournal.com/778.html Over here.]]
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* KinkMeme: KinkMeme:
** [[http://borgiaskink.livejournal.com/778.html Over here.]]
** [[http://borgiaskink.livejournal.com/778.html Over here.]]
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* LargeHam: Creator/JeremyIrons, not as much as one might expect, though he turns it UpToEleven in "Death on a Pale Horse".
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* LargeHam: LargeHam:
** Creator/JeremyIrons, not as much as one might expect, though he turns it UpToEleven in "Death on a Pale Horse".
** Creator/JeremyIrons, not as much as one might expect, though he turns it UpToEleven in "Death on a Pale Horse".
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* LiteraryAllusionTitle[=/=]TitleDrop: Savonarola quotes Revelation 6:8 in "Death on a Pale Horse".
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* LiteraryAllusionTitle[=/=]TitleDrop: LiteraryAllusionTitle: Savonarola quotes Revelation 6:8 in "Death on a Pale Horse".
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* ManlyGay: Micheletto.
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%% * ManlyGay: Micheletto.
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* MasterPoisoner: Micheletto. Lucrezia Borgia may become this in the future, depending on how many of the rumors about her the show runs with.
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* MasterPoisoner: MasterPoisoner:
** Micheletto. Lucrezia Borgia may become this in the future, depending on how many of the rumors about her the show runs with.
** Micheletto. Lucrezia Borgia may become this in the future, depending on how many of the rumors about her the show runs with.
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* NeckSnap: Micheletto the assassin does this in "The Moor", twice.
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* NeckSnap: NeckSnap:
** Micheletto the assassin does this in "The Moor", twice.
** Micheletto the assassin does this in "The Moor", twice.
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* NeverTrustATrailer: In one of the promos for the first season, a [[SexSells completely nude]] [[MsFanservice Giulia Farnese]] advises Lucrezia to use her female beauty for gain, reassuring that "it can be deadly"; the two are apparently modeling for Botticelli's ''The Birth of Venus''. This scene does not appear in the actual series, even though Giulia says the exact same words to Lucrezia at some point. Also, if all you knew about the series came from the promo material, you might think Cesare and Lucrezia's relationship is a lot more incestuous than it actually is.
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* NeverTrustATrailer: NeverTrustATrailer:
** In one of the promos for the first season, a [[SexSells completely nude]] [[MsFanservice Giulia Farnese]] advises Lucrezia to use her female beauty for gain, reassuring that "it can be deadly"; the two are apparently modeling for Botticelli's ''The Birth of Venus''. This scene does not appear in the actual series, even though Giulia says the exact same words to Lucrezia at some point. Also, if all you knew about the series came from the promo material, you might think Cesare and Lucrezia's relationship is a lot more incestuous than it actually is.
** In one of the promos for the first season, a [[SexSells completely nude]] [[MsFanservice Giulia Farnese]] advises Lucrezia to use her female beauty for gain, reassuring that "it can be deadly"; the two are apparently modeling for Botticelli's ''The Birth of Venus''. This scene does not appear in the actual series, even though Giulia says the exact same words to Lucrezia at some point. Also, if all you knew about the series came from the promo material, you might think Cesare and Lucrezia's relationship is a lot more incestuous than it actually is.
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* ObliviousYoungerSibling: Gioffre.
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* OminousLatinChanting: Abounds.
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* ThePeepingTom: Lucrezia spies on Cesare having sex in the first episode.
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* ThePeepingTom: ThePeepingTom:
** Lucrezia spies on Cesare having sex in the first episode.
** Lucrezia spies on Cesare having sex in the first episode.
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* PetTheDog: Even JerkAss Alfonso, who mocks his aged and deaf father, is still [[spoiler: distraught when the old man dies]].
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* PetTheDog: PetTheDog:
** Even JerkAss Alfonso, who mocks his aged and deaf father, is still [[spoiler: distraught when the old man dies]].
** Even JerkAss Alfonso, who mocks his aged and deaf father, is still [[spoiler: distraught when the old man dies]].
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* ThePope: One of the most controversial in History.
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* RefugeInAudacity: The only reason Cesare is able to kill [[spoiler: Giovanni Sforza]] is because, even though his enemies knew he was dangerous and ruthless, nobody thought he would be reckless enough to brutally murder a man of that rank on his own turf in broad daylight with no pre-planning.
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* RefugeInAudacity: RefugeInAudacity:
** The only reason Cesare is able to kill [[spoiler: Giovanni Sforza]] is because, even though his enemies knew he was dangerous and ruthless, nobody thought he would be reckless enough to brutally murder a man of that rank on his own turf in broad daylight with no pre-planning.
** The only reason Cesare is able to kill [[spoiler: Giovanni Sforza]] is because, even though his enemies knew he was dangerous and ruthless, nobody thought he would be reckless enough to brutally murder a man of that rank on his own turf in broad daylight with no pre-planning.
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* ReallyGetsAround: About half the cast.
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* RoyalBrat: Juan.
** Alfonso of Naples, too.
** Alfonso of Naples, too.
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%% * RoyalBrat: Juan.
%% ** Alfonso of Naples, too.
%% ** Alfonso of Naples, too.
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* ScreamingBirth: [[spoiler: Lucrezia]] in "Nessuno", though she's a bit better than most, with lots of standard grunting and heavy breathing too.
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* ScreamingBirth: ScreamingBirth:
** [[spoiler: Lucrezia]] in "Nessuno", though she's a bit better than most, with lots of standard grunting and heavy breathing too.
** [[spoiler: Lucrezia]] in "Nessuno", though she's a bit better than most, with lots of standard grunting and heavy breathing too.
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* SinisterMinister: All of them.
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* StalkingIsLove: Cesare with Ursula, to some degree.
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* StalkingIsLove: StalkingIsLove:
** Cesare with Ursula, to some degree.
** Cesare with Ursula, to some degree.
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* StuffedInTheFridge: [[spoiler:Maria, the maid in "The Assassin". Micheletto seduces, then brutally murders her, with her death being the "proof" needed for Micheletto and Cesare to set up della Rovere to be banished from Rome. She basically dies so the audience can see how ruthless Micheletto and Cesare are, and to set up della Rovere's revenge angle.]]
** Arguably, a male version [[spoiler:with Paolo. His story function was to give Lucrezia the natural-born son she may have had in history and a paramour whom she loved, then die tragically. He's more or less a PuritySue.]]
** Arguably, a male version [[spoiler:with Paolo. His story function was to give Lucrezia the natural-born son she may have had in history and a paramour whom she loved, then die tragically. He's more or less a PuritySue.]]
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* StuffedInTheFridge: StuffedInTheFridge:
** [[spoiler:Maria, the maid in "The Assassin". Micheletto seduces, then brutally murders her, with her death being the "proof" needed for Micheletto and Cesare to set up della Rovere to be banished from Rome. She basically dies so the audience can see how ruthless Micheletto and Cesare are, and to set up della Rovere's revenge angle.]]
**Arguably, a A male version [[spoiler:with Paolo. His story function was to give Lucrezia the natural-born son she may have had in history and a paramour whom she loved, then die tragically. He's more or less a PuritySue.]]
** [[spoiler:Maria, the maid in "The Assassin". Micheletto seduces, then brutally murders her, with her death being the "proof" needed for Micheletto and Cesare to set up della Rovere to be banished from Rome. She basically dies so the audience can see how ruthless Micheletto and Cesare are, and to set up della Rovere's revenge angle.]]
**
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* TakeThatKiss: Rodrigo gives two [[CrowningMomentOfFunny hilarious]] ones to Cardinal Orsini and Cardinal della Rovere, two of the cardinals who oppose him.
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* TakeThatKiss: TakeThatKiss:
** Rodrigo gives two [[CrowningMomentOfFunny hilarious]] ones to Cardinal Orsini and Cardinal della Rovere, two of the cardinals who oppose him.
** Rodrigo gives two [[CrowningMomentOfFunny hilarious]] ones to Cardinal Orsini and Cardinal della Rovere, two of the cardinals who oppose him.
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* TearsOfBlood: In the season 2 finale.
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%% * TearsOfBlood: In the season 2 finale.
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* ToThePain: The doctor of Juan while explaining the [[GroinAttack treatment]] for his affliction.
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* ToThePain: ToThePain:
** The doctor of Juan while explaining the [[GroinAttack treatment]] for his affliction.
** The doctor of Juan while explaining the [[GroinAttack treatment]] for his affliction.
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* TraumaticHaircut / ImportantHaircut: When [[spoiler:Ursula]] enters a convent after her husband's death, her hair is cut off. Notable, though, in that this is by choice, and the trauma in question is what lead to her making this decision rather than the haircut itself.
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* TraumaticHaircut / ImportantHaircut: TraumaticHaircut: When [[spoiler:Ursula]] enters a convent after her husband's death, her hair is cut off. Notable, though, in that this is by choice, and the trauma in question is what lead to her making this decision rather than the haircut itself.
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* UnwantedSpouse: Ursula's husband and Giovanni Sforza. Gioffre and Sancia may become this for each other.
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* UnwantedSpouse: UnwantedSpouse:
** Ursula's husband and Giovanni Sforza. Gioffre and Sancia may become this for each other.
** Ursula's husband and Giovanni Sforza. Gioffre and Sancia may become this for each other.
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* VillainProtagonist: The Borgia family may be sympathetic, but straightforwardly heroic they are not.
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* VillainProtagonist: VillainProtagonist:
** The Borgia family may be sympathetic, but straightforwardly heroic they are not.
** The Borgia family may be sympathetic, but straightforwardly heroic they are not.
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* VorpalPillow: "The Moor"
* WarIsHell: The French troops march into Lucca and kill any man, woman, or child in their way. Charles attempts to justify it to a shocked Giuliano della Rovere by saying "'Tis war, Cardinal, plain and simple".
* WarIsHell: The French troops march into Lucca and kill any man, woman, or child in their way. Charles attempts to justify it to a shocked Giuliano della Rovere by saying "'Tis war, Cardinal, plain and simple".
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%% * VorpalPillow: "The Moor"
*WarIsHell: WarIsHell:
** The French troops march into Lucca and kill any man, woman, or child in their way. Charles attempts to justify it to a shocked Giuliano della Rovere by saying "'Tis war, Cardinal, plain and simple".
*
** The French troops march into Lucca and kill any man, woman, or child in their way. Charles attempts to justify it to a shocked Giuliano della Rovere by saying "'Tis war, Cardinal, plain and simple".
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* WorthyOpponent: By the end of season 1, Cesare seems to think this about della Rovere.
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* WorthyOpponent: WorthyOpponent:
** By the end of season 1, Cesare seems to think this about della Rovere.
** By the end of season 1, Cesare seems to think this about della Rovere.
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* TokenGoodTeammate: Possibly Gioffre Borgia, who historically lacked the ambitions of his siblings and just wanted to settle down in the country with a family.
** If they portray her as [[HistoryMarchesOn most historians now believe her to actually have been]] instead of the FemmeFatale of popular history, Lucrezia could be this. Time will tell.
** If they portray her as [[HistoryMarchesOn most historians now believe her to actually have been]] instead of the FemmeFatale of popular history, Lucrezia could be this. Time will tell.
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[[caption-width-right:283:[[Film/HistoryOfTheWorldPartI It's good to be Pope]].]]
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[[caption-width-right:283:[[Film/HistoryOfTheWorldPartI It's good to be the Pope]].]]
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All this is portrayed in the series and then some. Creator/JeremyIrons has top billing as [[UsefulNotes/PopeAlexanderVI Pope Alexander VI]], and the series debuted in April 2011. It has garnered some of the highest ratings on Showtime, and was renewed for a second, and then a third season. Shortly before the end of the third season, Showtime announced they were canceling the series.
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All this is portrayed in the series and then some. Creator/JeremyIrons has top billing as [[UsefulNotes/PopeAlexanderVI Pope Alexander VI]], and the series debuted in April 2011. It has garnered some of the highest ratings on Showtime, and was renewed for a second, and then a third season. Shortly before the end of the third season, Showtime announced they were canceling the series.
series. Plans for a TV movie to wrap up the series were shelved due to the expense of the project, with the proposed script being released as an e-book instead.
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* RealityIsUnrealistic: Apparently the producers ''could'' have stuck to a more historically accurate story, but chose not to out of fear that the audience ''wouldn't believe it actually happened'', according to [[http://www.exurbe.com/?p=2176 one analysis]].
* ReallyGetsAround: About half the cast.
* ReallyGetsAround: About half the cast.
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* RealityIsUnrealistic: Apparently the producers ''could'' have stuck to a more historically accurate story, but chose not to out of fear that the audience ''wouldn't believe it actually happened'', according to [[http://www.exurbe.com/?p=2176 one analysis]].
* ReallyGetsAround: About half the cast.
* ReallyGetsAround: About half the cast.
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* StuffedInTheFridge: [[spoiler:Maria, the maid in "The Assassin". Micheletto seduces, then brutally murders her, with her death being the "proof" needed for Micheletto and Cesare to set up della Rovere to be banished from Rome. She basically dies so the audience can see how ruthless Micheletto and Cesare are, and to set up della Rovere's revenge angle.]]
** Arguably, a male version [[spoiler:with Paolo. His story function was to give Lucrezia the natural-born son she may have had in history and a paramour whom she loved, then die tragically. He's more or less a PuritySue.]]
** And now, [[spoiler: Ursula is dead too. Since she's regarded as TheScrappy by most people, it's unlikely anyone will be too upset by this, even though Cesare all but lampshades the fact that her role was to make him more ruthless; "[her death] has released my heart of all emotions but one: vengeance".]]
** Arguably, a male version [[spoiler:with Paolo. His story function was to give Lucrezia the natural-born son she may have had in history and a paramour whom she loved, then die tragically. He's more or less a PuritySue.]]
** And now, [[spoiler: Ursula is dead too. Since she's regarded as TheScrappy by most people, it's unlikely anyone will be too upset by this, even though Cesare all but lampshades the fact that her role was to make him more ruthless; "[her death] has released my heart of all emotions but one: vengeance".]]
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* AdaptedOut: Leonardo da Vinci doesn't appear in the show at all, despite having been connected to the Borgias in real life. It's a bizarre omission considering the vast array of other historical figures that were written into the show in [[ArtisticLicenseHistory very different ways from their actual history]].
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* AdaptedOut: Leonardo da Vinci doesn't appear in the show at all, all (though his work is seen and he has something of a WrittenInAbsence), despite having been connected to the Borgias in real life. It's a bizarre omission considering the vast array of other historical figures that were written into the show in [[ArtisticLicenseHistory very different ways from their actual history]].
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* MaybeMagicMaybeMundane: Leaning strongly towards "mundane." We're never explicitly told whether or not TheLanceOfLonginus is a fake, let alone whether or not it has supernatural powers.
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* PowderTrail: Used in an assassination attempt on Cesare by Caterina Sforza; she knows he will want to investigate her (fake) relic inside a cave, and lays a powder trail to blow him up while he's doing so. He lives though.
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Well, you get the picture. Let's not even start on [[APartyAlsoKnownAsAnOrgy 'The Banquet of the Chestnuts']]. To be fair, the Borgias had many enemies and some of the stuff written about them was quite possibly exaggerated, expanded upon, or possibly even made up, to demonize them. This does not, however, mean that they were nice people. Even by the standards of the time, they weren't. Considering the world they lived in - let's be honest, Rome in the 15th century had corruption up to the ears - they couldn't afford to be.
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Well, you get the picture. Let's not even start on [[APartyAlsoKnownAsAnOrgy 'The Banquet of the Chestnuts']]. To be fair, the Borgias had many enemies and faced much more scrutiny than was typical of the time due to xenophobia, some of the stuff written about them was quite possibly exaggerated, expanded upon, or possibly even made up, to demonize them. This does not, however, mean that they were nice people. Even by the standards of the time, they weren't. Considering the world they lived in - let's be honest, Rome in the 15th century had corruption up to the ears - they couldn't afford to be.
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* ItalianWars
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* ItalianWarsUsefulNotes/ItalianWars
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* KnockingOnHeathensDoor: A very dark variant, as the boys who follow Savonarola are not looking to share any good news; they're looking to collect vanities for burning, and will vandalize property in order to get people to comply.
-->'''Machiavelli''': I see God is now reduced to breaking windows.
-->'''Machiavelli''': I see God is now reduced to breaking windows.
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* LargeHam: Creator/JeremyIrons, not as much as one might expect, though he turns it UpToEleven in "Death on a Pale Horse".
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* LargeHam: Creator/JeremyIrons, not as much as one might expect, though he turns it UpToEleven in "Death on a Pale Horse".
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* BookBurning: Book, art, fine clothing, furniture and [[ItMakesSenseInContext taxidermied owl]] burning, as the Bonfire of the Vanities takes place in the episode "The Siege at Forli."
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* MaybeMagicMaybeMundane: Leaning strongly towards "mundane." We're never explicitly told whether or not the Lance of Longinus is a fake, let alone whether or not it has supernatural powers.
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* MaybeMagicMaybeMundane: Leaning strongly towards "mundane." We're never explicitly told whether or not the Lance of Longinus TheLanceOfLonginus is a fake, let alone whether or not it has supernatural powers.
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Correcting a Truth in Television.
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* IncestSubtext: Lucrezia and Cesare. [[TruthInTelevision Unsurprisingly.]]
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* IncestSubtext: Lucrezia and Cesare. [[TruthInTelevision Unsurprisingly.]]Unsurprisingly, due to the many contemporary allegations.
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Not to be confused either with ''Series/Borgia'', the European 2011 version produced by Canal+ and created by Tom Fontana from ''Series/{{Oz}}''.
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Not to be confused either with ''Series/Borgia'', ''Series/{{Borgia}}'', the European 2011 version produced by Canal+ and created by Tom Fontana from ''Series/{{Oz}}''.
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%% There is now a page for the European series "Borgia" at Series/Borgia. Please move any tropes on "The Borgias" and its subpages that apply specifically to that series over to the new page.
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Not to be confused either with ''Borgia'', the European 2011 version produced by Canal+ and created by Tom Fontana from ''Series/{{Oz}}''.
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Not to be confused either with ''Borgia'', ''Series/Borgia'', the European 2011 version produced by Canal+ and created by Tom Fontana from ''Series/{{Oz}}''.