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* MisplacedRetribution: A verbal version. Le Xu lays into Bai Qian for being the cause of Ye Hua's suffering [[spoiler: and his death]], however that fault lays with two parties. With Ye Hua's family - including Le Xu, who all treated Bai Qian's mortal form, Su Su, like absolute crap. And primarily with Su Jin whose entitlement towards Ye Hua kept making her act in more and more insane ways that threatened/harmed/framed Su Su, leading to all the punishments and suffering Ye Hua had to take. By this point, Su Jin has been punished for all her other crimes and cannot be reached to be blamed for everything else, although Le Xu never seems to think to bring her up as a cause, nor think that she herself or the celestial royals were at fault.
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* ObnoxiousInLaws: Some of Ye Hua's family serve as this for Su Su. They don't approve because Su Su is mortal. His grandfather, the Heavenly Emperor, is the worst if one doesn't count Su Jin, who is not blood related, but was effectively raised as his foster sister. Su Jin of course is extremely horrible to Su Su, ultimately causing her to suicide. Meanwhile, Ye Hua's mother only cares about Su Su insofar as Su Su is pregnant with Ye Hua's child, and says it to her face, allowing her attendants to treat Su Su badly. Ye Hua's father gets a pass mostly because he doesn't interact with Su Su, though his mother says he too is furious that Ye Hua plans to marry Su Su officially. The only one of Ye Hua's immediate, present, family who shows Su Su no ill-will is Lian Song. Meanwhile, they're all - save Su Jin - very happy about Bai Qian marrying Ye Hua, although Le Xu still has qualms about her due to being a meddling and overprotective mother. She fully goes into this territory when [[spoiler: Ye Hua dies, and Le Xu blames his suffering all on Bai Qian even though it was not her fault]].
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*ProductPlacement: In episode 22, Bai Zhen and Zhe Yan are eating nuts and describing them...The same nuts appear multiple times throughout the series.
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* EternalLove: Given that the setting is amongst "immortals"/"gods", any romantic relationship (that works out) falls under this trope. The big one is the main couple, with Ye Hua only ever loving Bai Qian, and the duo contemplating how they end up planning to spend eternity together. Bai Qian's parents also count, having been very happily married for hundreds of thousands of years.
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* AllegedLookalikes: Xuan Nu is said to greatly resemble Bai Qian, but at best, the actresses have the same face shape. Their actual features - eye shape and set, nose, mouth and chin - are too different for anyone to realistically mistake them.
* CardCarryingVillain: Qing Cang, bordering on StupidEvil. His only drive seems to be because he doesn't want to be subservient to the Celestials and ForTheEvulz. He will bully whomever he needs to in order to start a war and sacrifice as many lives as he has to in order to achieve this goal, including his loyal followers and his own children, who he's cursed to be his power vessels. [[DidntThinkThisThrough Qing Cang won't even think through the logic of his actions in pursuit of his goal]]. Not only does he activate the Bell of the East Emperor without thinking that its creator, Mo Yuan, knows how to stop it, he readily states it'll burn the world down despite this being counterproductive to his goal of ''ruling'' said world. It's hardly a wonder that he's actually defeated fairly easily in direct combat, first by Mo Yuan, and then [[spoiler: by Ye Hua]]; he only pushed the Celestials to desperation because Xuan Nu helped him, not through his own actions or military brilliance.
* DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale: Xuan Nu uses a BedTrick in order to get the reluctant Li Jing to sleep with her and this is how she gets pregnant. Li Jing is clearly not aware as she appears as Si Yin and he's miserable and drunk, but nobody, not even him, calls her out on this deception. Even [[NiceGirl Yan Zhi]], who sees what's happening, doesn't stop it.
* EntertaininglyWrong: Ye Hua thinks to himself that no other man will want Su Su as she has been sharing her bed with him for three months, and thus he needs to [[ValuesDissonance marry her to effectively protect her reputation]]. Thing is, Su Su is ''completely unaware'' she's had a man in her bed and she lives alone on a mountain where nobody else lives. In fact, Ye Hua himself has to tell her it was the territory of the Golden Lion Beast and infested with monsters so no one else would go there. Therefore, ''nobody else'' would know a man's been in her bed either and thus if a man in the town she frequents took a fancy to her, neither of them would be any the wiser and she'd be acceptable enough to marry. Given how clever he is, his line of thought makes no sense save to be a way for him to convince himself he wants to marry her.
* NotQuiteTheRightThing: Le Xu offers a memory potion so Ye Hua can forget Su Su, as she wants him to be like he was before and to get over his sadness. Whilst it is coming from a place of love as his mother, she is basically trying to force him to be happy and go back to being [[TheStoic the emotionless]], [[LonelyRichKid lonely]], good prince he was before he met Su Su. Nor does it take into consideration that if he forgot Su Su, then he either: [[DidntThinkThisThrough wouldn't know where the hell his infant son came from, or would actually ''forget'' his son too]]. Given the damage that happens because Bai Qian removes her own memories, only to get them back, it's clear that this really shouldn't be the answer.
* QuestionableConsent: Unfortunately, this does happen between Ye Hua and Bai Qian twice (if the times he uses a ForcefulKiss are treated in the context of that trope). In one instance, it seems it's supposed to come across as part of the cheeky way Ye Hua is trying to get Bai Qian to fall (back) in love with him. However, the second time is treated as being part of how she comes to accept she loves him.
** Whilst she's in the mortal realm, Ye Hua comes to visit her and then decides to stay for the night. She turns to find him ready for bed and he asks her to get in. Bai Qian says she'll sleep on the floor as she's clearly uncomfortable, however Ye Hua points out her powers have been sealed so she can't fight back and whether she sleeps in the bed or on the floor, she'll end up having him beside her. He also then wonders if she's being deliberately coy. This prompts her to excuse that the bed is too small and she needs to be a good host and let him have the bed, before sheepishly agreeing to share the bed. The background music suggests this is supposed to be humourous and flirty, and they do only sleep, however Ye Hua did have all the power in this exchange.
** After Bai Qian goes to get the Soul-Gathering Lamp from Ye Hua, he closes the door as she's trying to leave, carries her to the bed and begins kissing her rather forcefully, whilst having removed his top robe and hers. She tries to resist having her robe removed and the kiss, and then has flashbacks of her memories as Su Su, which adds to her confusion of what's going on. At this point, she's only just considered that she does have feelings for him. The next thing she knows, they're both naked because he used magic to get rid of the clothes and she tries to cover him up. Bai Qian only seems to consent at ''this'' point, once she asks if he really wants to be with her. Though she does act like it was consensual afterwards the problem is that the power dynamic by the time she does seem to agree is already heavily in Ye Hua's favour. Furthermore, it's hard to tell if she could have used her own powers to get away from him at the beginning as it's implied he's more powerful than her anyway.
** Whilst she's in the mortal realm, Ye Hua comes to visit her and then decides to stay for the night. She turns to find him ready for bed and he asks her to get in. Bai Qian says she'll sleep on the floor as she's clearly uncomfortable, however Ye Hua points out her powers have been sealed so she can't fight back and whether she sleeps in the bed or on the floor, she'll end up having him beside her. He also then wonders if she's being deliberately coy. This prompts her to excuse that the bed is too small and she needs to be a good host and let him have the bed, before sheepishly agreeing to share the bed. The background music suggests this is supposed to be humourous and flirty, and they do only sleep, however Ye Hua did have all the power in this exchange.
** After Bai Qian goes to get the Soul-Gathering Lamp from Ye Hua, he closes the door as she's trying to leave, carries her to the bed and begins kissing her rather forcefully, whilst having removed his top robe and hers. She tries to resist having her robe removed and the kiss, and then has flashbacks of her memories as Su Su, which adds to her confusion of what's going on. At this point, she's only just considered that she does have feelings for him. The next thing she knows, they're both naked because he used magic to get rid of the clothes and she tries to cover him up. Bai Qian only seems to consent at ''this'' point, once she asks if he really wants to be with her. Though she does act like it was consensual afterwards the problem is that the power dynamic by the time she does seem to agree is already heavily in Ye Hua's favour. Furthermore, it's hard to tell if she could have used her own powers to get away from him at the beginning as it's implied he's more powerful than her anyway.
* TheSmurfettePrinciple: Whilst there are plenty of female characters, there is only ever ''one'' high goddess at a time.
** In the beginning, the only known high ''goddess'' is Yao Guang and she ends up dying.
** During the main part of the story, Bai Qian ascends to high goddess and the gossiping Celestial tribe members specifically mention she's one of the few high goddesses in the world. Thing is, we never learn who these others are (even her own mother is not of this rank as revealed prior) let alone see them, and she's treated as particularly special because of her lineage and position as queen.
** In the beginning, the only known high ''goddess'' is Yao Guang and she ends up dying.
** During the main part of the story, Bai Qian ascends to high goddess and the gossiping Celestial tribe members specifically mention she's one of the few high goddesses in the world. Thing is, we never learn who these others are (even her own mother is not of this rank as revealed prior) let alone see them, and she's treated as particularly special because of her lineage and position as queen.
* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom:
** Bai Qian: She decided she wanted to attend the birth of her second brother's child and convinced Ling Yu to sneak off with her. They were caught by Qing Cang who wanted to start a rebellion, then had to be rescued by Mo Yuan who then protected her from her ascension trial and was hurt. This results in the war between the Celestials and Ghost Tribe, culminating in Mo Yuan's death, Qing Cang's sealing, and the loss of power and prestige for both clans. Naturally, she blames herself, although Bai Zhen points out that there are a number of factors involved and as several people note, Qing Cang was ''always'' going to rebel, it was merely a matter of time.
** Xuan Nu: Aside from her jealousy factoring massively into the outcome of the war between the Celestials and Ghost Tribe, her ultimate SanitySlippage eventually brings down the Ghost Tribe itself. Being jealous of Bai Qian and also wanting to revive her dead child leads to her taking A-Li and Mo Yuan's body and baiting Bai Qian. To protect herself, she uses the generals and soldiers most loyal to Li Jing and his regime. Bai Qian kills them all, leaving Li Jing with few supporters left to try and keep the Ghost Realm safe and to stop the re-emergence of his father.
** Bai Qian: She decided she wanted to attend the birth of her second brother's child and convinced Ling Yu to sneak off with her. They were caught by Qing Cang who wanted to start a rebellion, then had to be rescued by Mo Yuan who then protected her from her ascension trial and was hurt. This results in the war between the Celestials and Ghost Tribe, culminating in Mo Yuan's death, Qing Cang's sealing, and the loss of power and prestige for both clans. Naturally, she blames herself, although Bai Zhen points out that there are a number of factors involved and as several people note, Qing Cang was ''always'' going to rebel, it was merely a matter of time.
** Xuan Nu: Aside from her jealousy factoring massively into the outcome of the war between the Celestials and Ghost Tribe, her ultimate SanitySlippage eventually brings down the Ghost Tribe itself. Being jealous of Bai Qian and also wanting to revive her dead child leads to her taking A-Li and Mo Yuan's body and baiting Bai Qian. To protect herself, she uses the generals and soldiers most loyal to Li Jing and his regime. Bai Qian kills them all, leaving Li Jing with few supporters left to try and keep the Ghost Realm safe and to stop the re-emergence of his father.
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* WritersCannotDoMath: Or rather, they didn't trouble to keep track of how they adapted the story and the timeline suffered as a result. The big culprit of this issue is when Ye Hua's birth occurred. The depiction in the show is that he was born a few weeks after the Battle of Ruoshui River, making him 70,000(+) years old when the main story kicks in. In the book however, he was 50,000 years old (as his spirit took 20,000 years to help Mo Yuan begin to piece his soul together). This age survives in dialogue, such as when Le Xu says that Su Jin is 20,000 years older than Ye Hua, even though days prior she was said to be only 500 years old; or when Bai Qian says she is 90,000 years older than him, even though she's actually 140,000 and later says that Ye Hua is his show age (i.e. 70,000).
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* WritersCannotDoMath: Or rather, they didn't have trouble to keep keeping track of how they adapted the story and the timeline suffered as a result. The big culprit of this issue is when Ye Hua's birth occurred. The depiction in the show is that he was born a few weeks after the Battle of Ruoshui River, making him 70,000(+) years old when the main story kicks in. In the book however, he was 50,000 years old (as his spirit took 20,000 years to help Mo Yuan begin to piece his soul together). This age survives in dialogue, such as when Le Xu says that Su Jin is 20,000 years older than Ye Hua, even though days prior she was said to be only 500 years old; or when Bai Qian says she is 90,000 years older than him, even though she's actually 140,000 and later says that Ye Hua is his show age (i.e. 70,000).
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* YearInsideHourOutside: A day in the heavenly realms equals a year in the mortal realm. Or at least, that's what they say. The pacing can confuse this issue, as can the fact that that the AdaptationExpansion has messed with the original story and the creators [[WritersCannotDoMath didn't pay attention when they directly adapted the book and when they added their own ideas.]]
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* YearInsideHourOutside: A day in the heavenly realms equals a year in the mortal realm. Or at least, that's what they say. The pacing can confuse this issue, as can the fact that that the AdaptationExpansion has messed with the original story and the creators [[WritersCannotDoMath didn't pay attention when they directly adapted the book and when they added their own ideas.]]
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* Bolt of Divine Retribution:
** Advancing in ranks (whether from High Immortal to High God, or from regular prince to Crown Prince), requires the person advancing to be hit with lightning bolts. For example: Bai Qian is supposed to be hit by 3 strikes advancing to High Immortal, but Mo Yuan takes them for her. To become Crown Prince, Ye Hua is struck by ''dozens'', and becoming Emperor/Empress requires about ''90''.
** Being punished in the Nine Heavens usually means being struck by lightning too, either once or over a specific period of time. The Heavenly Emperor punishes Su Su this way for pushing Su Jin from Zhuxian Terrace, but Ye Hua takes the punishment instead.
** Advancing in ranks (whether from High Immortal to High God, or from regular prince to Crown Prince), requires the person advancing to be hit with lightning bolts. For example: Bai Qian is supposed to be hit by 3 strikes advancing to High Immortal, but Mo Yuan takes them for her. To become Crown Prince, Ye Hua is struck by ''dozens'', and becoming Emperor/Empress requires about ''90''.
** Being punished in the Nine Heavens usually means being struck by lightning too, either once or over a specific period of time. The Heavenly Emperor punishes Su Su this way for pushing Su Jin from Zhuxian Terrace, but Ye Hua takes the punishment instead.
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* CombatHandFan: Bai Qian's WeaponOfChoice. She defeats a phoenix demon and fights her way across a battlefield while armed with only a fan.
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* CombatHandFan: Bai Qian's WeaponOfChoice.preferred weapon. She defeats a phoenix demon and fights her way across a battlefield while armed with only a fan.
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** Dong Hua is significantly older than Feng Jiu - he was conquering and ruling the heavens when her father was a kid. [[OlderThanTheyLook He doesn't look it mind you.]] According to the books, he's about 370,000 years her senior, and she's 30,000, though in this series' timeline she's actually about a month ''older'' than Ye Hua.
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** Dong Hua is significantly older than Feng Jiu - he was conquering and ruling the heavens when her father was a kid. [[OlderThanTheyLook He doesn't look it mind you.]] According to the books, he's about 370,000 years her senior, and she's 30,000, though in this series' timeline she's actually about a month three months ''older'' than Ye Hua.
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* Bai Feng Jiu is only 30,000 in the books, but here she is 70,000, having been born just before Mo Yuan's sacrifice.
* Ye Hua is only 50,000 in the books. In the show, it is mostly stated he is 70,000, being born about two-to-three months after Mo Yuan's sacrifice. However, the book age occasionally pops up in dialogue as well, seemingly due to [[WritersCannotDoMath writers not remembering to take into account]] the AdaptationExpansion.
* Ye Hua is only 50,000 in the books. In the show, it is mostly stated he is 70,000, being born about two-to-three months after Mo Yuan's sacrifice. However, the book age occasionally pops up in dialogue as well, seemingly due to [[WritersCannotDoMath writers not remembering to take into account]] the AdaptationExpansion.
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* AgeLift:
* Bai Feng Jiu is only 30,000 in the books, but here she is 70,000, having been born just before Mo Yuan's sacrifice.
* Ye Hua is only 50,000 in the books. In the show, it is mostly stated he is 70,000, being born about two-to-three months after Mo Yuan's sacrifice. However, the book age occasionally pops up in dialogue as well, seemingly due to [[WritersCannotDoMath writers not remembering to take into account]] the AdaptationExpansion.
** This expansion-induced age issues also affects Su Jin. One instance states she is only 500 years old at the time of the Ruo River battle, and thus when Ye Hua is born months later. Later on, she says she is 20,000 years old than him.
* Bai Feng Jiu is only 30,000 in the books, but here she is 70,000, having been born just before Mo Yuan's sacrifice.
* Ye Hua is only 50,000 in the books. In the show, it is mostly stated he is 70,000, being born about two-to-three months after Mo Yuan's sacrifice. However, the book age occasionally pops up in dialogue as well, seemingly due to [[WritersCannotDoMath writers not remembering to take into account]] the AdaptationExpansion.
** This expansion-induced age issues also affects Su Jin. One instance states she is only 500 years old at the time of the Ruo River battle, and thus when Ye Hua is born months later. Later on, she says she is 20,000 years old than him.
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* KillEmAll: Ye Hua is told numerous times that to stop further problems in the Chang Sea, the Mermaid Clan must be completely wiped out. And so they are, with a few survivors joining Li Yuan's rebellion and ending up dead as well.
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* RapunzelHair: Most of the characters, even the men. TruthInTelevison as the ancient Chinese period from which this series bases its setting had a societal rule, derived from Creator/{{Confucius}}, whereby cutting the hair was considered disrespectful as it was a gift from your parents (and the gods in some beliefs). Thus you have Bai Qian, whose hair falls almost to her knees, and Ye Hua, whose hair is almost just as long.
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* AsYouKnow: A seemingly throw-away tidbit of information about the ancient god clans is presented by Fox Emperor Bai Zhi in episode 12 - when gods of the ancient clans (Dragon, Phoenix and Fox) died, a celestial phenomenon occurs. Whilst it may seem innocuous as the auidence knows Bai Qian isn't dead (which is what her mother was fearing), it ''does'' foreshadow two events: a) [[spoiler: that Mo Yuan can come back and isn't technically dead]], and b) [[spoiler: that Ye Hua isn't actually dead either]]. Neither "death" comes with any type of phenomena, though the characters curiously seem to forget this fact in both instances.
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* DissonantSerenity: Whilst the Heavenly Emperor is highly concerned about the war Qing Cang is intent on starting, Dong Hua is more interested in the tea cup he was giving and wanting a replica for himself. Mo Yuan also doesn't seem bothered discussing the tea cup either, though Die Feng states that this is a front and the calmer he seems, the more worried he is.
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* DissonantSerenity: Whilst the Heavenly Emperor is highly concerned about the war Qing Cang is intent on starting, Dong Hua is more interested in the tea cup he was giving he's using and wanting a replica for himself. Mo Yuan also doesn't seem bothered discussing the tea cup either, though Die Feng states that this is a front and the calmer he seems, the more worried he is.
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* DissonantSerenity: Whilst the Heavenly Emperor is highly concerned about the war Qing Cang is intent on starting, Dong Hua is more interested in the tea cup he was giving and wanting a replica for himself. Mo Yuan also doesn't seem bothered discussing the tea cup either, though Die Feng states that this is a front and the calmer he seems, the more worried he is.
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* BreachOfPromiseOfMarriage: Zhe Yan and Bai Zhi go to the Celestial Palace because Sang Ji breached his betrothal, and thus the Emperor's word, to marry Bai Qian. Whilst they go to see if they can actually back out of it altogether despite the embarrassment towards them, it's the Emperor who wants to keep the marriage pact in tact to save the face of his tribe and family. This results in the more iron-clad betrothal between Bai Qian and Ye Hua. Oddly, a further breach on the Celestial side is subsequently used as a threat ''hanging over their own heads'' as they can't afford to anger the Fox Tribe and Qing Qui, whose alliance is keeping their shaky hold on power.
