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** The album ''Generation Swine'' by Music/MotleyCrue was released in 1997, not 1996 as the show suggests. It's also implied that the album was a flop due to a scene that shows a Tower Records employee putting copies of the album on the "reduced" rack. In reality, ''Generation Swine'' reached #4 on the Billboard 200 and remained on the charts for nine weeks. The album was certified gold (meaning it sold over half a million units) in the United States. Although it still was not as critically or commercially successful as the albums released when the band was at the peak of its popularity in the late-1980s.

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** The album ''Generation Swine'' by Music/MotleyCrue was released in 1997, not 1996 as the show suggests. It's also implied that the album was a flop due to a scene that shows a Tower Records employee putting copies of the album on the "reduced" rack. In reality, ''Generation Swine'' reached #4 on the Billboard 200 and remained on the charts for nine weeks. The album was certified gold (meaning it sold over half a million units) in the United States. Although it still was not as critically or commercially successful as the albums released when the band was at the peak of its popularity in the late-1980s.
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* HairTriggerTemper: By series' end, Tommy's hothead nature has taken a serious toll on Pam's mental health. Tommy erupting at a hotel worker for disturbing them to deliver champagne is just about the final straw for her.
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* RunForTheBorder: Miltie decides to "pop on over to Amsterdam" to escape the heat over the sex tape. Rand acknowledges his decision as being smart.
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** The lawyer for Penthouse in episode 6 may seem harsh for going after Pam Anderson, trying to create a narrative where Tommy and her willingly created a sex tape that they would sell to Hugh Hefner and Playboy, and that they aren't trying to protect their privacy, using Pamela's history with Playboy against her. While harsh and sexist, it's also the lawyers job to do this to protect his client's interest.

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** The lawyer for Penthouse in episode 6 may seem harsh for going after Pam Anderson, trying to create a narrative where Tommy and her willingly created a sex tape that they would sell to Hugh Hefner and Playboy, and that they aren't trying to protect their privacy, using Pamela's history with Playboy against her. While harsh and sexist, it's also the lawyers lawyer's job to do this to protect his client's interest.

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* FailureMontage: Milton and Rand shop the tape around to a collection of decreasingly reputable porn companies, and gets shot down by all of them.

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Milton and Rand shop the tape around to a collection of decreasingly reputable porn companies, and gets shot down by all of them. them.
** Alicia has an extended one when trying to pitch the sex tape scandal story to the chief editor of ''The L.A. Times''. She eventually succeeds.
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* HairOfGoldHeartOfGold: Pam is blonde and is shown throughout as a sweet-natured person who is nice to almost everyone she meets.

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* HairOfGoldHeartOfGold: Pam is blonde blonde, albeit [[DyeHard naturally brunette in real life]], and is shown throughout as a sweet-natured person who is nice to almost everyone she meets.

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* LoanShark: Rand is ecstatic about finally finding someone willing to fund the distribution of the sex tape but Milton explains that the guy is a loan shark who expects to be paid back or else bad things will happen to them.
* LongList: The private investigator asks Tommy Lee if anyone has a grudge against him, and he comes up with a long list of fellow musicians [[NoodleIncident and for some reason John Stamos]].

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* LoanShark: Rand is ecstatic about finally finding someone willing to fund the distribution of the sex tape but Milton explains that the guy is a loan shark who expects to be paid back or else bad things will happen to them.
them. Sure enough, when Milton runs off with the money, Rand has to work off his debts by shaking down other debtors for him.
* LongList: The private investigator asks Tommy Lee if anyone has a grudge against him, and he comes up with a long list of fellow musicians [[NoodleIncident and for some reason John Stamos]].
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* BreakTheCutie: The show becomes this for Pamela. For the most part she's a kind, sweet person whose biggest flaw is that she has bad taste in men. At the start of the series she is a happy, deeply-in-love newlywed who is excited to start having children with Tommy. But once the sex tape starts being distributed Pamela is subjected to an ever-increasing level of stress and public humiliation that throws her private life and her marriage into turmoil. On top of that her first starring role in a mainstream Hollywood film, ''Film/BarbWire'', turns out to be a critical and commercial flop. By the end of the series she's willing to do anything just to end the sex tape scandal even if it jeopardizes her marriage, and the failure of ''Barb Wire'' has made it so nobody is willing to hire her for serious acting roles.

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* TheNineties: Pamela Anderson's sex tape scandal blew up in 1996, and the trailer features people using [[UsefulNotes/{{VCR}} VHS]] and dial-up Internet access, which are technological mainstays of the era.
** As one would expect, since the series is set in the mid-1990s it contains a lot of 90s music and pop culture references.

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* TheNineties: Pamela Anderson's sex tape scandal blew up in 1996, and the trailer features people using [[UsefulNotes/{{VCR}} VHS]] and dial-up Internet access, which are technological mainstays of the era.
** As one would expect, since the series is set in the mid-1990s it
era. It also contains a lot of 90s music and pop culture references.

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* BiggerIsBetterInBed: Subverted. Erica is more comfortable shooting a porn scene with Rand rather than someone more well-endowed, though this doesn't stop her from making a small-penis joke at his expense later.

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Subverted. Erica is more comfortable shooting a porn scene with Rand rather than someone more well-endowed, though this doesn't stop her from making a small-penis joke at his expense later.later.
** Played straight with Pamela's delighted reaction the first time she sees Tommy's (quite large) penis.

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* HeelRealization: Tommy acknowledges he was awful to Rand and deserved the humiliation when the two meet again, only being upset that Pam was caught in the middle.

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** Rand himself goes through his own heel realization in the final couple of episodes. His plan to get revenge has not only thrown his own life into chaos, but Tommy and Pam's lives as well. He feels especially haunted by the humiliation and turmoil he caused to Pamela, considering that she was an innocent bystander who had nothing to do with Tommy ripping off Rand. Rand is unable to personally apologize to Pamela due to the fact that she's surrounded by security at all times, so instead he apologizes to a celebrity impersonator playing Pamela Anderson whom he meets on the Sunset Strip (an act that leaves the celebrity impersonator quite confused).
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** The album ''Generation Swine'' by Music/MotleyCrue was released in 1997, not 1996 as the show suggests. It's also implied that the album was a flop due to a scene that shows a Tower Records employee putting copies of the album on the "reduced" rack. In reality, ''Generation Swine'' reached #4 on the Billboard 200 and remained on the charts for nine weeks. The album was certified gold (meaning it sold over half a million units) in the United States. Although it still was not as critically or commercially successful as the albums released when the band was at the peak of its popularity in the late-1980s.
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** In the final episode, Pamela has the tattoo on her ring finger that says "Tommy" changed to "Mommy." While she did actually do this in real life, it didn't happen until after she'd divorced Tommy in 1998. The series suggests that she did it while they were still married.
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** Seth Warshavsky sold the DVD rights of the Pam and Tommy sex tape to an adult film studio for $15. It's estimated the tape generated $77 million in revenue.

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** Seth Warshavsky sold the DVD rights of the Pam and Tommy sex tape to an adult film studio for $15.$15 million. It's estimated the tape generated $77 million in revenue.
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* WhereAreTheyNowEpilogue: There is a brief epilogue at the end of the final episode explaining what became of the three main characters:

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* WhereAreTheyNowEpilogue: There is a brief epilogue at the end of the final episode explaining what became of the three main characters: characters and the tape itself:
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* WhereAreTheyNowEpilogue: There is a brief epilogue at the end of the final episode explaining what became of the three main characters:
** Pamela divorced Tommy in early 1998 two months after a physical altercation in their home, which resulted in Tommy going to jail for six months after pleading no contest to spousal battery charges. In 2008, ten years after their divorce, the two of them got back together but it did not last. Despite their often-turbulent relationship, the two of them have called each other "the love of their life."
** Seth Warshavsky sold the DVD rights of the Pam and Tommy sex tape to an adult film studio for $15. It's estimated the tape generated $77 million in revenue.
** In 2002, Rand moved to northern California and became a marijuana grower. Occasionally he will tell someone that he's the guy who stole the Pamela Anderson and Tommy Lee sex tape, but almost nobody believes him.
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** The fifth episode features a scene where Tommy Lee and Nikki Sixx confront the members of Music/ThirdEyeBlind over the latter being given a bigger recording studio than Music/MotleyCrue. Stephen Jenkins (the frontman of Third Eye Blind) has said that such a confrontation never happened in real life, and at the time the series took place he had never even heard of Motley Crue.

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* BeepingComputers: When Pamela and Tommy use the Internet in the trailer, the famous dial-up Internet access sound can be heard.

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* BeepingComputers: When Pamela and Tommy use The familiar dialup noise plays whenever the Internet in the trailer, the famous dial-up Internet access sound can be heard.is used.



* InstantHumiliationJustAddYouTube: Or the World Wide Web in this case. As hundreds of VHS copies of the Lees' honeymoon sex tape circulate, the trailer shows Pam and Tommy reacting to such.

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* InstantHumiliationJustAddYouTube: Or the World Wide Web in this case. As case, as hundreds of VHS copies of the Lees' honeymoon sex tape circulate, the trailer shows Pam and Tommy reacting to such. circulate.



* OhCrap: Pamela and Tommy have such a reaction in the trailer when they see that their sex tape has been uploaded on TheInternet.

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* OhCrap: Pamela and Tommy have such a reaction in the trailer when they see that their sex tape has been uploaded on TheInternet.

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** Pam and Tonny figure out the tape is missing by the time it's already being shipped by Rand for weeks. Before they even take any sort of actions, there are already third generation copies floating the market. When they hire PI to retrieve the original, Rand is already barely controlling what's happening with the copies of a copy of "his" film.

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** By the time Pam and Tonny Tommy figure out the tape is missing by the time it's missing, Rand has already being shipped by Rand been shipping it out for weeks. Before There are already third-generation copies floating around the market before they even take any sort of actions, there are already third generation copies floating the market. When action, and when they hire a PI to retrieve the original, Rand is already barely controlling what's happening with the copies of a copy of "his" copy of the film.
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* BrokenPedestal: In a flashback scene, Rand seems absolutely starstruck when he is introduced to Tommy Lee and Pamela Anderson for the first time, and all he can manage is a wide-eyed stare with his mouth hanging open in awe. Flash forward to the beginning of the series and Rand is becoming increasingly frustrated by Tommy's ever-changing demands regarding the renovations he wants done to his house.
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* AmoralAttorney: While most of the lawyers in the series are portrayed as this, the lawyers representing Penthouse Magazine are portrayed as particularly scummy, asking humiliating and invasive questions to Pamela in an attempt to rattle her.
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** In a flashback sequence to 1989, Pamela's boyfriend objects to her posing for Playboy because he doesn't want the entire world seeing his girlfriend naked. This leads to the end of their relationship.
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* CantStopTheSignal: Everyone realises way too late that they either are acting by reacting or things went completely out of their control
** Pam and Tonny figure out the tape is missing by the time it's already being shipped by Rand for weeks. Before they even take any sort of actions, there are already third generation copies floating the market. When they hire PI to retrieve the original, Rand is already barely controlling what's happening with the copies of a copy of "his" film.
** Rand encounters a bootlegger early on and figures out there might be some more floating around. But then everyone on their own is just making a copy for a friend and he's powerless to prevent that. His booming business eventually just turns into measly 9 orders for a whole week, compared with previous dozens of orders per day, because while he's a "legit" source, there are cheaper and faster ways of get the video.
** Once the news keep brewing for a while, Burt from L.A. Times has to reluctantly green-light article about the whole sex tape scandal, despite hating the concept on principle. Simply because everyone else is going to write about it anyway and he can either join the flow, or be sacked for ignoring "the big news".
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* PoliceAreUseless: After being told by the LAPD officers that burglaries usually go unsolved, Tommy and Pamela hire a private investigator to recover the contents of their stolen safe. It doesn't take the private investigator very long to figure out that Rand was is the culprit after asking Tommy if anybody would want revenge against him.

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* EveryoneHasStandards: Rand's girlfriend, a porn actress, has firm standards on what she considers acceptable when it comes to the porn business. She draws a clear line at releasing sex tapes without the permission of the participants and when she finds out what Rand did, she throws him out of her home.

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Rand's girlfriend, a porn actress, has firm standards on what she considers acceptable when it comes to the porn business. She draws a clear line at releasing sex tapes without the permission of the participants and when she finds out what Rand did, she throws him out of her home.home.
** The stenographers from the deposition. It's her job to record those thing and remain dispassionate about it, but she's visibly uncomfortable with the whole thing and eventually is the only person in the room that comes to console Pamela.



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* WhiteDwarfStarlet:
** If Tommy isn't one yet, he's certainly headed in that direction and knows it; he's nowhere near as big as he was ten years ago and is now mostly regarded as representative of a style that's long since fallen out of fashion and become something of a punchline as a result. In many moments he's seen bitterly reflecting on his downward-trending career: getting insulted at an episode of ''Series/BehindTheMusic'' about Motley Crue's decline, glaring at the plaques on his wall showing Crue's decreasing sales, getting bumped from the recording studio by their new label-mates Third Eye Blind, etc. One scene even has him starting a fight with two fans because they said his sex tape was the best thing he'd since "Girls, Girls, Girls," released nine years previously. Tommy is less enraged by them having seen a tape he made privately and which was taken without his consent and more that they think he hadn't released any noteworthy music since 1987. The final episode also has a flashback to Motley Crue's doomed attempt to reinvent itself as a more in line with Grunge to clear disinterest from both their own fans and Grunge fans.
** Averted with Pamela, who in the mid-90s was at the peak of her mainstream popularity and arguably the biggest sex symbol on the planet.

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WhiteDwarfStarlet: If Tommy isn't one yet, he's certainly headed in that direction and knows it; he's nowhere near as big as he was ten years ago and is now mostly regarded as representative of a style that's long since fallen out of fashion and become something of a punchline as a result. In many moments he's seen bitterly reflecting on his downward-trending career: getting insulted at an episode of ''Series/BehindTheMusic'' about Motley Crue's decline, glaring at the plaques on his wall showing Crue's decreasing sales, getting bumped from the recording studio by their new label-mates Third Eye Blind, etc. One scene even has him starting a fight with two fans because they said his sex tape was the best thing he'd since "Girls, Girls, Girls," released nine years previously. Tommy is less enraged by them having seen a tape he made privately and which was taken without his consent and more that they think he hadn't released any noteworthy music since 1987. The final episode also has a flashback to Motley Crue's doomed attempt to reinvent itself as a more in line with Grunge to clear disinterest from both their own fans and Grunge fans.
** Averted with Pamela, who in the mid-90s was at the peak of her mainstream popularity and arguably the biggest sex symbol on the planet.
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* HasAType: Pamela is aware that she has a habit of getting involved with bad boys who inevitably end up hurting her, and she's trying to correct this flaw. But despite being aware of her weakness for bad boys, she still ends up marrying Tommy just days after meeting him.


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* LoveAtFirstSight: The moment Tommy first met Pamela he knew he had to have her, and he didn't stop aggressively pursuing her until they were married a few days later.

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* BrokenAce: Tommy was a rock superstar in the 1980s, but after hair metal fell out of fashion in the early 1990s in favor of grunge, Tommy isn't nearly as famous as he used to be. It's clear that he's aware of this and is somewhat bitter about it.



* WhiteDwarfStarlet: If Tommy isn't one yet, he's certainly headed in that direction and knows it; he's nowhere near as big as he was ten years ago and is now mostly regarded as representative of a style that's long since fallen out of fashion and become something of a punchline as a result. In many moments he's seen bitterly reflecting on his downward-trending career: getting insulted at an episode of ''Series/BehindTheMusic'' about Motley Crue's decline, glaring at the plaques on his wall showing Crue's decreasing sales, getting bumped from the recording studio by their new label-mates Third Eye Blind, etc. One scene even has him starting a fight with two fans because they said his sex tape was the best thing he'd since "Girls, Girls, Girls," released nine years previously. Tommy is less enraged by them having seen a tape he made privately and which was taken without his consent and more that they think he hadn't released any noteworthy music since 1987. The final episode also has a flashback to Motley Crue's doomed attempt to reinvent itself as a more in line with Grunge to clear disinterest from both their own fans and Grunge fans.

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If Tommy isn't one yet, he's certainly headed in that direction and knows it; he's nowhere near as big as he was ten years ago and is now mostly regarded as representative of a style that's long since fallen out of fashion and become something of a punchline as a result. In many moments he's seen bitterly reflecting on his downward-trending career: getting insulted at an episode of ''Series/BehindTheMusic'' about Motley Crue's decline, glaring at the plaques on his wall showing Crue's decreasing sales, getting bumped from the recording studio by their new label-mates Third Eye Blind, etc. One scene even has him starting a fight with two fans because they said his sex tape was the best thing he'd since "Girls, Girls, Girls," released nine years previously. Tommy is less enraged by them having seen a tape he made privately and which was taken without his consent and more that they think he hadn't released any noteworthy music since 1987. The final episode also has a flashback to Motley Crue's doomed attempt to reinvent itself as a more in line with Grunge to clear disinterest from both their own fans and Grunge fans.fans.
** Averted with Pamela, who in the mid-90s was at the peak of her mainstream popularity and arguably the biggest sex symbol on the planet.
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* FreudianExcuse: It's implied that Rand's resentment of Pam and Tommy's glamourous lives is partially fueled by mistreatment from his playboy swinger father (himself a successful actor).

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