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* AdaptationalBadass: Clarissa Main. The Novel version suffers her husband's death and loses her mind for the remainder of her life. The TV version maintains her wits, and at one point saves Mont Royal from destruction by gun-threatening some Union Soldiers.
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The books were adapted into a TV MiniSeries starring Creator/PatrickSwayze and James Read. The series aired on Creator/{{ABC}} between 1985-94, clocking in at [[TheEpic 1212 minutes]]. In addition to being a [[StarMakingRole breakout role]] for Swayze, a number of then-unknown actors (Creator/ForestWhitaker and Creator/JonathanFrakes, to name two) also saw their careers get a boost.

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The books were adapted into a TV MiniSeries starring Creator/PatrickSwayze and James Read.Creator/JamesRead. The series aired on Creator/{{ABC}} between 1985-94, clocking in at [[TheEpic 1212 minutes]]. In addition to being a [[StarMakingRole breakout role]] for Swayze, a number of then-unknown actors (Creator/ForestWhitaker and Creator/JonathanFrakes, to name two) also saw their careers get a boost.
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* EqualOpportunityEvil: In the book, Cuffey's band of marauders includes both escaped slaves and Confederate Army deserters; even former overseer Salem Jones joins them.

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* EqualOpportunityEvil: In the book, Cuffey's leads a band of marauders pillaging the countryside in the last days of the war. His band includes both escaped slaves and Confederate Army deserters; even former overseer Salem Jones joins them.them, to get even with the owners of the plantation he had been fired from.
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* EqualOpportunityEvil: In the book, Cuffey's band of marauders includes both escaped slaves and Confederate Army deserters; even former overseer Salem Jones joins them.
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->- ''At Hilton Head they called me "Private Cuffey." And still put a shovel in my hand.''

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->- ''At --->At Hilton Head they called me "Private Cuffey." And still put a shovel in my hand.''
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->-''At Hilton Head they called me "Private Cuffey." And still put a shovel in my hand.''

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->-''At ->- ''At Hilton Head they called me "Private Cuffey." And still put a shovel in my hand.''

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* NotSoDifferent: The Mains own slaves, but the Hazards' factory is a sweatshop, whose accommodations are even worse than that of the Mains' slaves. Orry is ready to remind George of this on quite a few occasions.

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The Mains own slaves, but the Hazards' factory is a sweatshop, whose accommodations are even worse than that of the Mains' slaves. Orry is ready to remind George of this on quite a few occasions.occasions.
** When Cuffey runs away from the plantation and joins a Union Colored Regiment, he finds that life as a soldier wasn't so different from life as a slave.
->-''At Hilton Head they called me "Private Cuffey." And still put a shovel in my hand.''

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* SparedByTheAdaptation: [[spoiler: Orry]] in the second miniseries, based on ''Love And War'' [[spoiler: (in which Orry does get killed). But the final miniseries DroppedABridgeOnHim]].

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* SparedByTheAdaptation: SparedByTheAdaptation:
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[[spoiler: Orry]] in the second miniseries, based on ''Love And War'' [[spoiler: (in which Orry does get killed). But the final miniseries DroppedABridgeOnHim]].DroppedABridgeOnHim]].
** Priam in the book misses a freight train he was going to escape on and is killed by a search party, but in the miniseries he makes it onto the train.
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* LeanAndMean: In Chapters One and Two, Ashton is a quintessential fair-skinned, voluptuous aristocrat. By the time 1994 rolled along, Terri Garber was leaner and tanned from her role on ''Series/{{Dynasty}}''; it worked perfectly for a weather-beaten, hungrier Ashton.

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* LeanAndMean: In Chapters One and Two, Ashton is a quintessential fair-skinned, voluptuous aristocrat. By the time 1994 rolled along, Terri Garber was leaner and tanned from her role on ''Series/{{Dynasty}}''; ''Series/{{Dynasty1981}}''; it worked perfectly for a weather-beaten, hungrier Ashton.
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* TheCorrupter: The Ku Klux Klan recruiter serves as thss to Cooper.

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* TheCorrupter: The Ku Klux Klan recruiter serves as thss this to Cooper.



* EstablishingCharacterMoment: In the miniseries, young Ashton is first seen breaking a toy rather than letting her sister have it.

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* EstablishingCharacterMoment: In the miniseries, young Ashton is first seen breaking a toy bird's egg rather than letting her sister have it.return it to the nest.
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* AdaptionalBadAss: Clarissa Main. The Novel version suffers her husband's death and loses her mind for the remainder of her life. The TV version maintains her wits, and at one point saves Mont Royal from destruction by gun-threatening some Union Soldiers.

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* AdaptionalBadAss: AdaptationalBadass: Clarissa Main. The Novel version suffers her husband's death and loses her mind for the remainder of her life. The TV version maintains her wits, and at one point saves Mont Royal from destruction by gun-threatening some Union Soldiers.
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* AdaptionalBadAss: Clarissa Main. The Novel version suffers her husband's death and loses her mind for the remainder of her life. The TV version maintains her wits, and at one point saves Mont Royal from destruction by gun-threatening some Union Soldiers.
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* PlotMandatedFriendshipFailure: Orry and George's contrasting lifestyles & politics have caused conflict in their relationship for more than a decade. However, during a visit to George in October 1859, a row of disagreements over Virgilia's activities and the justification of John Brown's violent anti-slavery actions causes an estrangement between the two. It is not until George visits Orry in December 1860 do they reconcile.

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* PlotMandatedFriendshipFailure: Orry and George's contrasting lifestyles & politics have caused conflict in their relationship for more than a decade. However, during a visit to George in October 1859, a row of disagreements over Virgilia's activities and the justification of John Brown's violent anti-slavery actions causes an estrangement between the two. It is not until George visits Orry in December 1860 do they reconcile.
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* PlotMandatedFriendshipFailure: Orry and George's contrasting lifestyles & politics have caused conflict in their relationship for more than a decade. However, during a visit to George in October 1859, a row of disagreements over Virgilia's activities and the justification of John Brown's violent anti-slavery actions causes an estrangement between the two. It is not until George visits Orry in December 1860 do they reconcile.
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** In the miniseries, Virgilia agrees to serve as Congressman Greene's mistress in exchange for a judicial pardon. In his final scene, Greene reveals [[spoiler: that Virgilia's name has been cleared for months; he was just stringing her along in exchange for sex. Virgilia becomes angry and shoots him dead]].

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** In the miniseries, Virgilia agrees to serve as Congressman Greene's mistress in exchange for a judicial pardon. In his final scene, Greene reveals [[spoiler: that Virgilia's name has been cleared for months; he was just stringing her along in exchange for sex. Virgilia becomes angry and shoots him dead]].dead, but this earns her a one-way trip straight to the gallows]].
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* LadykillerInLove: George is a womanizer who doesn't seem like he wants to settle down, until he meets Constance.
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** Madeline unwittingly makes an enemy by helping Ashton during her abortion. One of the Main family's slaves warns that Ashton won't Madelene to continue on in the family while knowing her shameful secret.

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** Madeline unwittingly makes an enemy by helping Ashton during her abortion. One of the Main family's slaves warns that Ashton won't allow Madelene to continue on in the family while knowing her shameful secret.
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* DroppedABridgeOnHim: [[spoiler: Orry]] is killed off at the beginning of ''Heaven and Hell''. Through creative use of [[StockFootage Archive Footage]], [[spoiler:Swayze]] walks through a doorway to be replaced by a stand-in, who (silently) bites the dust when Bent stabs him from behind. Since

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* DroppedABridgeOnHim: [[spoiler: Orry]] is killed off at the beginning of ''Heaven and Hell''. Through creative use of [[StockFootage Archive Footage]], [[spoiler:Swayze]] walks through a doorway to be replaced by a stand-in, who (silently) bites the dust when Bent stabs him from behind. Since


** Forbes, acting under Ashton's orders, deliberately goads Billy into a duel with [[TryingToCatchMeFightingDirty an unloaded pistol]]. Nice and legal.

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** Forbes, acting under Ashton's orders, deliberately goads Billy into a duel with [[TryingToCatchMeFightingDirty an unloaded pistol]].pistol. Nice and legal.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Most notably, Creator/JonathanFrakes went on to have a long and fruitful career as an actor and director; ''North and South'' also resulted in he and co-star Creator/GenieFrancis hooking up; the two eventually married in 1988 and have remained married for 30 years as of this writing.
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* RaceFetish: She might genuinely love Grady, but the book makes it obvious that Virgilia has a ''serious'' "thing" for black men. Entire passages are devoted to her waxing rhapsodic about "beautiful black men" and "black man's bodies".
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**Brett is pretty bad however, her hairspray and gel caked hair and bright pink lipstick frequently make her appear like "Antebellum Barbie", like at Ashton's wedding.
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Not to be confused with the Elizabeth Gaskell novel and miniseries [[Literature/NorthAndSouth of the same name]]

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Not to be confused with the Elizabeth Gaskell novel and miniseries [[Literature/NorthAndSouth of the same name]]
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-->'''Billy:''' You saved the wrong man, but you did the right thing.
** Brett tries this with Virgilia, and for a while it even kind of works.

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-->'''Billy:''' -->'''Charles:''' You saved the wrong man, but you did the right thing.
** Brett tries this with Virgilia, and for a while it even kind of works.
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** In the miniseries, Virgilia agrees to serve as Congressman Greene's mistress in exchange for a judicial pardon. In his final scene, Greene reveals [[spoiler: that Virgilia's name has been cleared for months; he was just stringing her along in exchange for sex. Virgilia goes berserk and shoots him dead]].

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** In the miniseries, Virgilia agrees to serve as Congressman Greene's mistress in exchange for a judicial pardon. In his final scene, Greene reveals [[spoiler: that Virgilia's name has been cleared for months; he was just stringing her along in exchange for sex. Virgilia goes berserk becomes angry and shoots him dead]].
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* MaritalRapeLicense: Justin. Cuffey too.

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* MaritalRapeLicense: Justin. Cuffey too.
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* CoolOldGuy & NatureHero: Adolphus the trapper. Not to be confused with [[{{Film/Dodgeball}} Patches O'Houlihan]].

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* CoolOldGuy & NatureHero: Adolphus the trapper. Not to be confused with [[{{Film/Dodgeball}} [[Film/DodgeballATrueUnderdogStory Patches O'Houlihan]].

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* EvilVirtues: Ashton's resourcefulness. She manages to go from RichesToRags and back again, equipped with nothing but her sharp brain and industry (and a little thievery and murder doesn't hurt). Faint praise, but then most of the antagonists are so blackhearted that they don't even ''have'' virtues.

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* EvilVirtues: Ashton's resourcefulness. She manages to go from RichesToRags and back again, equipped with nothing but her sharp brain and industry (and a little thievery thievery, murder, and murder willingness to jump in the sack with anything that has a pulse if it furthers her goals doesn't hurt).hurt, either). Faint praise, but then most of the antagonists are so blackhearted that they don't even ''have'' virtues.
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The focal point of the saga is a budding [[HeterosexualLifePartners bromance]] between Orry Main of South Carolina and George Hazard of Pennsylvania. The two become best friends while attending [[MilitaryAcademy West Point]], but later find themselves and their families on opposite sides of the war. The slave-owning Mains are [[DeepSouth rural gentleman planters]] while the big-city Hazards are heavy in industry, their differences reflecting the social divisions that eventually led to the Civil War. Basically, it's [[{{Soaperizing}} a soap]] -- but with a budget.

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The focal point of the saga is a budding [[HeterosexualLifePartners bromance]] between Orry Main of South Carolina and George Hazard of Pennsylvania. The two become best friends while attending [[MilitaryAcademy West Point]], then fight side-by-side in the UsefulNotes/MexicanAmericanWar, but later find themselves and their families on opposite sides of the war. The slave-owning Mains are [[DeepSouth rural gentleman planters]] while the big-city Hazards are heavy in industry, their differences reflecting the social divisions that eventually led to the Civil War. Basically, it's [[{{Soaperizing}} a soap]] -- but with a budget.
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** Justified, since she had to be able to pass for a 100% white person ''and'' she's merely an octoroon.

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** Justified, since she had to be able to pass for a 100% white person ''and'' she's merely an octoroon.octoroon--[[TruthInTelevision which sadly was way more than too much for the society of the time]].
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** JohnnyCash as John Brown ("We most certainly are at war!").

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** JohnnyCash Music/JohnnyCash as John Brown ("We most certainly are at war!").

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