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** The template for a title troped as JoyOfX is also used quite often: "I, Murdoch" (ICommaNoun), "Me, Myself and Murdoch" (Me, Myself and X), "Dial M for Murdoch" (Dial X for Y), and "Murdoch in Wonderland" (X in Wonderland).
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** The template for a title troped as JoyOfX TheJoyOfX is also used quite often: "I, Murdoch" (ICommaNoun), "Me, Myself and Murdoch" (Me, Myself and X), "Dial M for Murdoch" (Dial X for Y), and "Murdoch in Wonderland" (X in Wonderland).
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* AgentMulder: George is the first one to suggest that vampires, ghosts, werewolves, Martians, Venusians, or an Egyptian curse might be responsible for the crimes they're investigating.
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* AlliterativeTitleAlliterativeTitle: '''''M'''urdoch '''M'''ysteries''.
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* CreepyDoll: "Murdoch in Toyland" had several of these, all with creepy recorded messages for Detective Murdoch. One doll's head was cut off. The concept of doll as a toy and its disturbing features is lampshaded by Inspector Brackenried: "I know it's supposed to be adorable, but to me it just looks bloody creepy."
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* CreepyDoll: "Murdoch in Toyland" had several of these, all with creepy recorded messages for Detective Murdoch. One doll's head was cut off. The concept of doll as a toy and its disturbing features is lampshaded by Inspector Brackenried: Brackenreid: "I know it's supposed to be adorable, but to me it just looks bloody creepy."
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** "Belly Speaker": The belly speaker's puppet was very disturbing. The fact that it was made to look like its owner, complete with MismatchedEyes, added to the creepiness.
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** "Belly Speaker": The belly speaker's puppet was very disturbing. The fact that it was made manufactured to look like its owner, complete with MismatchedEyes, added to the creepiness.
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** The episode where Murdoch wakes up to find himself in the wrong country, with no memory of how he got there and everyone trying to kill him is of course, named "[[Literature/TheBourneSeries The Murdoch Identity]]" (the episode even included a character called Treadstone).
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** The episode where Murdoch wakes up to find himself in the wrong country, with no memory of how he got there and everyone trying to kill him is of course, named "[[Literature/TheBourneSeries The Murdoch Identity]]" (the episode even included a character called Treadstone). Treadstone).
** AddedAlliterativeAppeal is employed from time to time: "Victor, Victorian", "Me, Myself and Murdoch", "Monsieur Murdoch", and "Evil Eye of Egypt".
** The template for a title troped as JoyOfX is also used quite often: "I, Murdoch" (ICommaNoun), "Me, Myself and Murdoch" (Me, Myself and X), "Dial M for Murdoch" (Dial X for Y), and "Murdoch in Wonderland" (X in Wonderland).
** AddedAlliterativeAppeal is employed from time to time: "Victor, Victorian", "Me, Myself and Murdoch", "Monsieur Murdoch", and "Evil Eye of Egypt".
** The template for a title troped as JoyOfX is also used quite often: "I, Murdoch" (ICommaNoun), "Me, Myself and Murdoch" (Me, Myself and X), "Dial M for Murdoch" (Dial X for Y), and "Murdoch in Wonderland" (X in Wonderland).
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* CreepyDoll: "Murdoch in Toyland" had several of these, all with creepy recorded messages for Detective Muroch. One doll's head was cut off. The concept of doll as a toy and its disturbing features is lampshaded by Inspector Brackenried: "I know it's supposed to be adorable, but to me it just looks bloody creepy."
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* CreepyDoll: "Murdoch in Toyland" had several of these, all with creepy recorded messages for Detective Muroch.Murdoch. One doll's head was cut off. The concept of doll as a toy and its disturbing features is lampshaded by Inspector Brackenried: "I know it's supposed to be adorable, but to me it just looks bloody creepy."
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** "Belly Speaker": The belly speaker's puppet with MismatchedEyes.
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** "Belly Speaker": The belly speaker's puppet was very disturbing. The fact that it was made to look like its owner, complete with MismatchedEyes.MismatchedEyes, added to the creepiness.
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* CreepyDoll: "Murdoch in Toyland" had several of these, all with creepy recorded messages for Detective Muroch. One doll's head was cut off. The concept of doll as a toy and its disturbing features is lampshaded by Inspector Brackenried: "I know it's supposed to be adorable, but to me it just looks bloody creepy."
** "Me, Myself and Murdoch" had a rag doll without an eye found in a CreepyBasement, buried there with a chopped up skeleton.
** "Belly Speaker": The belly speaker's puppet with MismatchedEyes.
* CriminalMindGames: In "Murdoch in Toyland", Detective Murdoch is left a series of talking dolls designed to give him just enough clues to reach the next one, and also to make him overthink things and miss more blatant clues.
** "Me, Myself and Murdoch" had a rag doll without an eye found in a CreepyBasement, buried there with a chopped up skeleton.
** "Belly Speaker": The belly speaker's puppet with MismatchedEyes.
* CriminalMindGames: In "Murdoch in Toyland", Detective Murdoch is left a series of talking dolls designed to give him just enough clues to reach the next one, and also to make him overthink things and miss more blatant clues.
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* DaydreamSurprise: Used frequently from Murdoch's perspective, mostly involving Doctor Ogden and kissing. In one daydream Murdoch saw his older self camping with his wife and son. While Murdoch sees and seems to know the identity of the wife (he smiles when he sees her), [[TheFaceless the audience doesn't]].
** Doctor Ogden's point of view was used at least once as well. When the case involving a 'HemoErotic vampire' was solved, she imagined herself to be lifted up and seated on a table by the wall by Murdoch, and the two start to make out violently. The imagination involved [[spoiler: Julia's fiancé]] Doctor Darcy Garland walking in on them
** Doctor Ogden's point of view was used at least once as well. When the case involving a 'HemoErotic vampire' was solved, she imagined herself to be lifted up and seated on a table by the wall by Murdoch, and the two start to make out violently. The imagination involved [[spoiler: Julia's fiancé]] Doctor Darcy Garland walking in on them
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* DaydreamSurprise: DaydreamSurprise
** Used frequently from Murdoch's perspective, mostly involving Doctor Ogden and kissing. In one daydream Murdoch saw his older self camping with his wife and son. While Murdoch sees and seems to know the identity of the wife (he smiles when he sees her), [[TheFaceless the audience doesn't]].
** Doctor Ogden's point of viewwas is used at least once as well. When the case involving a 'HemoErotic vampire' was "HemoErotic vampire" is solved, she imagined imagines herself to be lifted up and seated on a table by the wall by Murdoch, and the two start to make out violently. The imagination involved [[spoiler: Julia's involves [[spoiler:Julia's fiancé]] Doctor Darcy Garland walking in on themthem.
** Used frequently from Murdoch's perspective, mostly involving Doctor Ogden and kissing. In one daydream Murdoch saw his older self camping with his wife and son. While Murdoch sees and seems to know the identity of the wife (he smiles when he sees her), [[TheFaceless the audience doesn't]].
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* OneOfOurOwn: the show can handle this plot gracefully.
** In "The Great Wall", a constable from station five is murdered, but the case is assigned to Detective Murdoch from station four. The whole constabulary still consider themselves to be a family and things get pretty ugly when the evidence leads to somebody from the police force.
** "Murdoch in Wonderland": A man is found murdered at Lewis Carroll costume party. All clues point to the Hatter, which was Murdoch... He himself demands a detective from a different station house as nobody of his colleagues could be objective. But the constables of station four stay involved, as well as Murdoch's superior Inspector Brackenreid.
** In "Let Loose the Dogs", Murdoch's father was a murder suspect. Murdoch doesn't want the case, but his boss refuses to comply. Interestingly, Murdoch was ''prejudiced'' against his father because they have serious issues.
** In "The Great Wall", a constable from station five is murdered, but the case is assigned to Detective Murdoch from station four. The whole constabulary still consider themselves to be a family and things get pretty ugly when the evidence leads to somebody from the police force.
** "Murdoch in Wonderland": A man is found murdered at Lewis Carroll costume party. All clues point to the Hatter, which was Murdoch... He himself demands a detective from a different station house as nobody of his colleagues could be objective. But the constables of station four stay involved, as well as Murdoch's superior Inspector Brackenreid.
** In "Let Loose the Dogs", Murdoch's father was a murder suspect. Murdoch doesn't want the case, but his boss refuses to comply. Interestingly, Murdoch was ''prejudiced'' against his father because they have serious issues.
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* OneOfOurOwn: the The show can handle this plot gracefully.
** In "The Great Wall", a constable from station five is murdered, but the case is assigned to Detective Murdoch from station four. The whole constabulary still consider themselves to be a family and things get pretty ugly when the evidence leads tosomebody someone from the police force.
** "Murdoch in Wonderland": A man is found murdered at a Lewis Carroll costume party. All clues point to the Hatter, which was Murdoch... He himself demands a detective from a different station house asnobody none of his colleagues could be objective. But the constables of station four stay involved, as well as Murdoch's superior Inspector Brackenreid.
** In "Let Loose the Dogs", Murdoch's fatherwas is a murder suspect. Murdoch doesn't want the case, but his boss refuses to comply. Interestingly, Murdoch was is ''prejudiced'' against his father because they have serious issues.
** In "The Great Wall", a constable from station five is murdered, but the case is assigned to Detective Murdoch from station four. The whole constabulary still consider themselves to be a family and things get pretty ugly when the evidence leads to
** "Murdoch in Wonderland": A man is found murdered at a Lewis Carroll costume party. All clues point to the Hatter, which was Murdoch... He himself demands a detective from a different station house as
** In "Let Loose the Dogs", Murdoch's father
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** Doctor Ogden's point of view was used at least once as well. When the case involving a 'HemoErotic vampire' was solved, she imagined herself to be lifted up and seated on a table by the wall by Murdoch, and the two start to make out violently. The imagination involved [[spoiler: Julia's fiancé]] Doctor Darcy Garland walking in on them
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** Plegmatic Phlegmatic -- Julia Ogden
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* OneOfOurOwn: the show can handle this plot gracefully.
** In "The Great Wall", a constable from station five is murdered, but the case is assigned to Detective Murdoch from station four. The whole constabulary still consider themselves to be a family and things get pretty ugly when the evidence leads to somebody from the police force.
** "Murdoch in Wonderland": A man is found murdered at Lewis Carroll costume party. All clues point to the Hatter, which was Murdoch... He himself demands a detective from a different station house as nobody of his colleagues could be objective. But the constables of station four stay involved, as well as Murdoch's superior Inspector Brackenreid.
** In "Let Loose the Dogs", Murdoch's father was a murder suspect. Murdoch doesn't want the case, but his boss refuses to comply. Interestingly, Murdoch was ''prejudiced'' against his father because they have serious issues.
** In "The Great Wall", a constable from station five is murdered, but the case is assigned to Detective Murdoch from station four. The whole constabulary still consider themselves to be a family and things get pretty ugly when the evidence leads to somebody from the police force.
** "Murdoch in Wonderland": A man is found murdered at Lewis Carroll costume party. All clues point to the Hatter, which was Murdoch... He himself demands a detective from a different station house as nobody of his colleagues could be objective. But the constables of station four stay involved, as well as Murdoch's superior Inspector Brackenreid.
** In "Let Loose the Dogs", Murdoch's father was a murder suspect. Murdoch doesn't want the case, but his boss refuses to comply. Interestingly, Murdoch was ''prejudiced'' against his father because they have serious issues.
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-->'''Constable Crabtree''': Sir? What? Even your wife?
-->'''Inspector Brackenreid''': ''Especially'' the wife! *[[FunnyMoment ominous music starts playing]]*
-->'''Inspector Brackenreid''': ''Especially'' the wife! *[[FunnyMoment ominous music starts playing]]*
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-->'''Constable Crabtree''': Crabtree:''' Sir? What? Even your wife?
-->'''Inspector Brackenreid''':wife?\\
'''Inspector Brackenreid:''' ''Especially'' thewife! *[[FunnyMoment wife!\\
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* EspeciallyZoidberg: In the episode "Who Killed the Electric Carriage?", Inspector Brackenreid finds out that his wife (who's been giving him a hard time about his drinking) and other ladies from Temperance League participate in bloody gambling, so he orders Constable Crabtree to arrest everybody in the bloody den.
-->'''Constable Crabtree''': Sir? What? Even your wife?
-->'''Inspector Brackenreid''': ''Especially'' the wife! *[[FunnyMoment ominous music starts playing]]*
-->'''Constable Crabtree''': Sir? What? Even your wife?
-->'''Inspector Brackenreid''': ''Especially'' the wife! *[[FunnyMoment ominous music starts playing]]*
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* DeliberateValuesDissonance: While Murdoch and Dr. Ogden are quite ahead of their times, the setting is definitely ''not''; classicism, racism, and sexism are rampant, and Murdoch & Co. even run into the odd anarchist, eugenicist, and virulent anti-papist (RealLife turn-of-the-century Toronto was under the complete control of the Orange Order, every mayor up to 1955 was a card-carrying member). Inspector Brackenreid isn't above [[PoliceBrutality beating up a suspect during interrogation]] to try and get answers. Going in the other direction, abortionists were treated as complete pariahs, even by Murdoch until Ogden shook him out of it.
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* MoralDissonance: While Murdoch and Dr. Ogden are quite ahead of their times, the setting is definitely ''not''; classicism, racism, and sexism are rampant, and Murdoch & Co. even run into the odd anarchist, eugenicist, and virulent anti-papist (RealLife turn-of-the-century Toronto was under the complete control of the Orange Order, every mayor up to 1955 was a card carrying member). Inspector Brackenreid isn't above [[PoliceBrutality beating up a suspect during interrogation]] to try and get answers. Going in the other direction, abortionists were treated as complete pariahs, even by Murdoch until Ogden shook him out of it.
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* MoralDissonance: While Murdoch and Dr. Ogden are quite ahead of their times, the setting is definitely ''not''; classicism, racism, and sexism are rampant, and Murdoch & Co. even run into the odd anarchist, eugenicist, and virulent anti-papist (RealLife turn-of-the-century Toronto was under the complete control of the Orange Order, every mayor up to 1955 was a card carrying member). Inspector Brackenreid isn't above [[PoliceBrutality beating up a suspect during interrogation]] to try and get answers. Going in the other direction, abortionists were treated as complete pariahs, even by Murdoch until Ogden shook him out of it..
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* MoralDissonance: While Murdoch and Dr. Ogden are quite ahead of their times, the setting is definitely ''not''; classicism, racism, and sexism are rampant, and Murdoch & Co. even run into the odd anarchist, eugenicist, and virulent anti-papist (RealLife turn-of-the-century Toronto was under the complete control of the Orange Order, every mayor up to 1955 was a card carrying member). Inspector Brackenreid isn't above [[PoliceBrutality beating up a suspect during interrogation]] to try and get answers. Going in the other direction, abortionists were treated as complete pariahs, even by Murdoch until Ogden shook him out of it.. it.
* MysteryWriterDetective: George writes ''The Curse of the Lost Pharaohs'' during season 4. By 'Evil Eye of Egypt' in series 5 it has been published and he's on the publicity trail for it.
* MysteryWriterDetective: George writes ''The Curse of the Lost Pharaohs'' during season 4. By 'Evil Eye of Egypt' in series 5 it has been published and he's on the publicity trail for it.
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* AliceAllusion: The season 4 finale "Murdoch in Wonderland" abounds with references and allusions to ''Literature/AliceInWonderland''. The characters go to a costume party to honour the late Creator/LewisCarroll. Detective Murdoch is dressed as the Mad Hatter and Dr. Julia Ogden is Alice. They play croquet, drink "potion" from flasks and write together a non-sense mirror-flipped poem. Murdoch gets [[IntoxicationEnsues drugged]] and has disturbing visions of falling down the hole or being too big to enter a door.
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* IntoxicationEnsues: One alcoholic drink served in a flask at the Alice in Wonderland costume party was drugged.
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* PoeticSerialKiller: An Indian guide kills men who accidentally wounded him and left him stranded.
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* PoeticSerialKiller: An Indian guide kills men who accidentally wounded him in the chest and left him stranded. stranded.
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* TheTeetotaler: Detective Murdoch is a combination of Type A (he wants to keep his head clear) and Type C (he avoids alcohol because his father is an alcoholic).
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* PoeticSerialKiller: An Indian guide kills men who left him to die with a very serious wound.
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* SerialKiller: Several times.
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* TheBigBoard: Detective Murdoch uses a big blackboard for collecting leads, visualizing crime scenes or explaining his ideas of new forensic methods. He sometimes sticks there photos of victims, reports of related older crimes, newspaper articles and so on.
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* HistoricalDomainCharacter / InThePastEveryoneWillBeFamous: Several well-known figures make appearances, including Creator/JackLondon, Buffalo Bill and Annie Oakley, HarryHoudini, Creator/ArthurConanDoyle, Creator/HGWells, NikolaTesla and Prince Albert Victor.
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* HiddenDepths: Inspector Brackenreid is, surprisingly, a big opera fan.
* HistoricalDomainCharacter / InThePastEveryoneWillBeFamous: Several well-known figures make appearances, including Creator/JackLondon, Buffalo Bill and Annie Oakley, HarryHoudini, Creator/ArthurConanDoyle, Creator/HGWells,NikolaTesla and NikolaTesla, Prince Albert Victor.Victor and [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Goldman Emma Goldman]].
* HistoricalDomainCharacter / InThePastEveryoneWillBeFamous: Several well-known figures make appearances, including Creator/JackLondon, Buffalo Bill and Annie Oakley, HarryHoudini, Creator/ArthurConanDoyle, Creator/HGWells,
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* FowlMouthedParrot: George once brought back a parrot from a murder scene that keeps spouting insults in Italian. As well as [[NotInFrontOfTheParrot giving hints about the murderer]].
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* AnimalAssassin: In "Evil Eye of Egypt", a cobra placed in a sarcophagus bites the first person opening it.
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* GentlemanThief: "The Kissing Bandit"
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* SpinningPaper: "[[TitleDrop Kissing Bandit]] Strikes Again!"
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* AllPartOfTheShow: The production of ''Theatre/LaBoheme'' in "Murdoch at the Opera". [[spoiler:Knowing that she will be arrested for murder after the performance, Elvira Cummings takes a fatal dose of poison and plays out Mimi's death scene, expiring after singing Mimi's last words. The audience isn't any wiser for it and applaud wildly; the other players only realise she has died after the curtains have fallen.]]
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* AllPartOfTheShow: The production of ''Theatre/LaBoheme'' in "Murdoch at the Opera". [[spoiler:Knowing that she will be arrested for murder after the performance, Elvira Cummings Rosa Hamilton takes a fatal dose of poison and plays out Mimi's death scene, expiring after singing Mimi's last words. The audience isn't any wiser for it and applaud wildly; the other players only realise she has died after the curtains have fallen.]]
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* RunningGag: Crabtree's aunts, all named after different flowers and plants.
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* RunawayFiancee: Doctor Grace is one. Her fiance has not gotten over it.
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* RunawayFiancee: Doctor Grace is one. Her fiance ex-fiancé has not gotten over it.
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At the time of editing, we have yet to see what the consequences will be for Ogden - series 6 hasn\'t aired yet, so we don\'t know how the show is going to handle Ogden\'s (possible) divorce. And that\'s to say nothing of her abortion (from what would be premarital sex) and Murdoch\'s reaction to this revelation *and* Julia\'s desire to teach birth control methods being hampered by Darcy and frowned upon by polite society.
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* EternalSexualFreedom: In the dawning century of 1900, no consequences are mentionned for...
** Devout catholic Murdoch chasing divorcee Ogden.
** Doctor Grace breaking convention in a manner that creates shock even today with the spurning of her would-be-husband just before the wedding.
** Devout catholic Murdoch chasing divorcee Ogden.
** Doctor Grace breaking convention in a manner that creates shock even today with the spurning of her would-be-husband just before the wedding.
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* EternalSexualFreedom: In the dawning century Largely averted. [[spoiler: Julia]]'s abortion is a major point of 1900, no consequences are mentionned for...
** Devout catholic Murdoch chasing divorcee Ogden.
** Doctor Grace breaking convention in a manner that creates shock even todaycontention for [[spoiler: devoutly Catholic Murdoch]] and it nearly destroys their budding relationship. Similarly, Julia's push to teach birth control methods to women is met with hostility and she is forced to put the spurning of her would-be-husband just before the wedding.issue to rest when it threatens to harm Darcy's career.
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* DrugsAreBad: Played for laughs and CulturalDissonance. Brackenreid has a tendency to fall for the latest in patent medicine and has taken Laudanum, morphine, cocaine, and Heroin, all for innocent pain management problems. Murdoch delivers the contemporary anti-drug Aesops, which sounds hilariously weak and nonsensical as the negative properties of addictive drugs was not well known at the time.
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* DrugsAreBad: Played for laughs and CulturalDissonance.DeliberateValuesDissonance. Brackenreid has a tendency to fall for the latest in patent medicine and has taken Laudanum, morphine, cocaine, and Heroin, all for innocent pain management problems. Murdoch delivers the contemporary anti-drug Aesops, which sounds hilariously weak and nonsensical as the negative properties of addictive drugs was not well known at the time.
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* DrugsAreBad: Played for laughs and CulturalDissonance. Brackenreid has a tendency to fall for the latest in patent medicine and has taken Laudanum, morphine, cocaine, and Heroin, all for innocent pain management problems. Murdoch delivers the contemporary anti-drug Aesops, which sounds hilariously weak and nonsensical as the negative properties of addictive drugs was not well known at the time.
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* AnachronismStew: The story seems to be set in a "greatest-hits of Late Victorian/Edwardian Era" world.
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* AnachronismStew: The story seems to be set in a "greatest-hits of Late Victorian/Edwardian Era" world. Season 5 was explicitly set in 1899.
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* MoralDissonance: While Murdoch and Dr. Ogden are quite ahead of their times, the setting is definitely ''not''; racism and sexism are rampant, and Murdoch & Co. even run into eugenicists and anti-papists. Inspector Brackenreid isn't above [[PoliceBrutality beating up a suspect during interrogation]] to try and get answers.
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* MoralDissonance: While Murdoch and Dr. Ogden are quite ahead of their times, the setting is definitely ''not''; racism classicism, racism, and sexism are rampant, and Murdoch & Co. even run into eugenicists the odd anarchist, eugenicist, and anti-papists.virulent anti-papist (RealLife turn-of-the-century Toronto was under the complete control of the Orange Order, every mayor up to 1955 was a card carrying member). Inspector Brackenreid isn't above [[PoliceBrutality beating up a suspect during interrogation]] to try and get answers. Going in the other direction, abortionists were treated as complete pariahs, even by Murdoch until Ogden shook him out of it..