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** It gets better: turns out Georgia was keeping ''all the unregistered checks'' of the money she [[spoiler: stole]] from the Town Hall in her very same office, right next to a computer where any other person could see how those are ''not'' registered in the Mayor's Office balance. Oh, put in a password, you say? Of course, she has it ''written on a post-it under the keyboard''.G

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** It gets better: turns out Georgia was keeping ''all the unregistered checks'' of the money she [[spoiler: stole]] from the Town Hall in her very same office, right next to a computer where any other person could see how those are ''not'' registered in the Mayor's Office balance. Oh, put in a password, you say? Of course, she has it ''written on a post-it under the keyboard''.G
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'''''Ginny & Georgia''''' is an American {{dramedy}} streaming TV series created by Sarah Lampert, released by Creator/{{Netflix}} on February 24th, 2021.

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'''''Ginny ''Ginny & Georgia''''' Georgia'' is an American {{dramedy}} streaming TV series created by Sarah Lampert, released by Creator/{{Netflix}} on February 24th, 2021.
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* IdiotBall: Ohh boy, does Georgia have several moments of these.
** Who would keep a [[spoiler: poisonous flower]] that could be easily identified ''in their own garden''?
** In Episode 8, Georgia openly takes some money from the Town Hall's account and ''puts half of it in her purse'', separated from the rest. Of course, Cynthia Miller quickly catches on to this.
** It gets better: turns out Georgia was keeping ''all the unregistered checks'' of the money she [[spoiler: stole]] from the Town Hall in her very same office, right next to a computer where any other person could see how those are ''not'' registered in the Mayor's Office balance. Oh, put in a password, you say? Of course, she has it ''written on a post-it under the keyboard''.G
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** Bracia is the only black girl in Wellesbury (aside from Ginny) that we see in multiple scenes. They even have a discussion about Ginny getting treated as a “token” by other people at times.

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** Bracia is the only black girl in Wellesbury (aside from Ginny) that we see in multiple scenes. They even have a discussion about Ginny getting treated as a “token” "token" by other people at times.
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* ChildOfTwoWorlds: Ginny, being biracial, has felt caught in between at times. She says to Hunter (who's also biracial with East Asian/white heritage), that she's had no friends in the past as for white kids she'd been not white enough and black kids too white. She cries on seeing one comment which calls her “the whitest black girl” and self-harms by burning herself with a candle over it. Later she speaks with Hunter about how annoying being asked “what are you?” is, and being stereotyped given their backgrounds (he notes that he's half Taiwanese, though “Asian” is all even his friends know. In a slam poem given for her class later she also mentions her annoyance at being put into a box with regards to her identity too, refusing that pigeonholing. She and Hunter talk heatedly of what their own experiences given this have been, which devolves into insults (this was highly criticized due to relying on stereotypes, plus the “Oppression Olympics” of them one-upping about who's experienced worse).

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* ChildOfTwoWorlds: Ginny, being biracial, has felt caught in between at times. She says to Hunter (who's also biracial with East Asian/white heritage), that she's had no friends in the past as for white kids she'd been not white enough and black kids too white. She cries on seeing one comment which calls her “the "the whitest black girl” girl" and self-harms by burning herself with a candle over it. Later she also speaks with Hunter about how annoying being asked “what "what are you?” you?" is, and being stereotyped given their backgrounds (he notes that he's half Taiwanese, though “Asian” "Asian" is all even his friends know.know). In a slam poem given for her class later she also mentions her annoyance at being put into a box with regards to her identity too, refusing that pigeonholing. She and Hunter talk heatedly of what their own experiences given this have been, which devolves into insults (this was highly criticized due to relying on stereotypes, plus the “Oppression Olympics” "Oppression Olympics" of them one-upping about who's experienced worse).



* IncompatibleOrientation: Max hits on a girl she thought liked her but it's revealed she's straight and rebufs her. She's briefly heartbroken as a result.

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* IncompatibleOrientation: Max hits on a girl she thought liked her but it's revealed she's straight and rebufs rebuffs her. She's briefly heartbroken as a result.
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* MySisterIsOffLimits: Max shuts Ginny, and so do her friends, when she discovers Ginny's having sex with her brother Marcus. Her main beef seems to be that Ginny didn't tell her about it. She thought they were both virgins at the same time.

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* MySisterIsOffLimits: Max shuts shuns Ginny, and so do her friends, when she discovers Ginny's having sex with her brother Marcus. Her main beef seems to be that Ginny didn't tell her about it. She thought they were both virgins at the same time.
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* IncompatibleOrientation: Max hits on a friend of her she thought was into girls, only to be rebuffed and is briefly heartbroken as a result.

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* IncompatibleOrientation: Max hits on a friend of her girl she thought was into girls, only to be rebuffed liked her but it's revealed she's straight and is rebufs her. She's briefly heartbroken as a result.
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* RapeAsBackstory: It turns out that both Georgia and Maddie were molested by their step dad. First it was just Georgia, and then when she ran away to escape he molested Maddie instead.

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* RapeAsBackstory: It turns out that both Georgia [[spoiler:Georgia and Maddie were molested by their step dad. First it was just Georgia, and then when she ran away to escape he molested Maddie instead.instead]].

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* DepartmentOfChildDisservices: PlayedWith as many fans wondered when [=DCS=] would show up, however, while Georgia may ''seem'' emotionally neglectful, she's never actually abusive and her kids are the center of her world.


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* SocialServicesDoesNotExist: PlayedWith as many fans wondered when [=DCS=] would show up, however, while Georgia may ''seem'' emotionally neglectful, she's never actually abusive and her kids are the center of her world. Still, it's odd after things such as Georgia having unsecured guns in the house, no one (not even her bitter enemy Cynthia) calls [=DCS=] on her.
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* AllGirlsWantBadBoys: Ginny's love interest, Marcus, is one.

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* AffectionateNickname: Georgia's pet name for Ginny is Peach.



* BigOlEyebrows: Georgia has very large, dark prominent eyebrows which really stand out as she's blonde and pale-skinned.
* BilingualDialogue: Ellen, Marcus and Max Baker speak in English while using ASL to sign at the same time, since Clint is deaf.



* ButNotTooBlack: Bracia notes that Ginny gets it a bit easier due to being light-skinned because she's biracial, while Bracia is a dark-skinned black girl.
* ChildOfTwoWorlds: Ginny, being biracial, has felt caught in between at times. She says to Hunter (who's also biracial with East Asian/white heritage), that she's had no friends in the past as for white kids she'd been not white enough and black kids too white. She cries on seeing one comment which calls her “the whitest black girl” and self-harms by burning herself with a candle over it. Later she speaks with Hunter about how annoying being asked “what are you?” is, and being stereotyped given their backgrounds (he notes that he's half Taiwanese, though “Asian” is all even his friends know. In a slam poem given for her class later she also mentions her annoyance at being put into a box with regards to her identity too, refusing that pigeonholing. She and Hunter talk heatedly of what their own experiences given this have been, which devolves into insults (this was highly criticized due to relying on stereotypes, plus the “Oppression Olympics” of them one-upping about who's experienced worse).



* DaddysGirl: Ginny really adores her dad Zion, and they connect much more than she does with her mom, despite the fact that he's not around too much.



* ADateWithRosiePalms: Ginny gets into phone sex with Marcus at his urging, and then uses her toothbrush as a makeshift sex toy.



** According to Ginny, the only man her mom ever loved was her father, and it [[NoodleIncident didn't end well]].
** Austin's father would be a literal case since it's implied they haven't seen each other ''ever''.

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** According Ginny's dad Zion is a photographer who's usually off somewhere doing that and having adventures, while he keeps in steady contact with her and sends Ginny regular gifts. He comes to Ginny, visit in "Check One, Check Other" and now also wants to stick around. At least part of the only man her mom ever loved was her father, and it [[NoodleIncident didn't end well]].
issue is shown as being Georgia's fault, as we see she took off with Ginny in past. He later leaves again, saying it's what Georgia wants, which she doesn't really deny. Ginny of course is really upset about this.
** Meanwhile Austin's father would be dad's in prison, because Georgia framed him for embezzlement and fraud. It turns out that Georgia's been keeping Austin's letters instead of sending them, and forging Gil's. Later he and Ginny find out, to Ginny's outrage. It turns out that Georgia told him Gil's [[Literature/HarryPotter a wizard in Azkaban]]. This is a literal case since it's implied they haven't seen each other ''ever''.they've never met.



* DoNotCallMePaul: Ginny doesn't like to be called her full name Virginia.
* DudeMagnet: Ginny relates that her mom Georgia has no trouble attracting men at all, which is not surprising given her beauty and charm.



* GirlOnGirlIsHot: Two straight girls at a party make out to the delight of the guys watching.



* IHaveNoSon: Georgia disowned her mother, stepfather and half-sister, with no contact for years. [[spoiler:Later we learn this was because her stepdad molested her, and half-sister Maddie took advantage of her.]] She lied and told Ginny they were dead.
* IncompatibleOrientation: Max hits on a friend of her she thought was into girls, only to be rebuffed and is briefly heartbroken as a result.



* LipstickLesbian: Max and Sophie are more chapstick, into girly stuff like their straight friends. though it's not very pronounced. At times Max also dresses a little more tomboyish too. Sophie is possibly bisexual, since she's dated boys too.
* LoveTriangle: Ginny first has sex with Marcus, losing her virginity by doing so, but then falls for Hunter, dating him. She still wants Marcus though, and gets into a fight with Hunter. Marcus and she then sleep together again. Hunter finds out, and Ginny is torn between them, tearfully saying she loves both boys.



* MySisterIsOffLimits: Max shuts Ginny, and so do her friends, when she discovers Ginny's having sex with her brother Marcus. Her main beef seems to be that Ginny didn't tell her about it. She thought they were both virgins at the same time.



* OfficeRomance: Georgia is assistant to Mayor Paul Randolph, whom she gets involved with.



* ShoutOut: Georgia outright states that she and her daughter Ginny are like the ''Series/GilmoreGirls'' but with "bigger boobs" or at least how she views them.

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* ShoutOut: ParentalSexualitySquick: Ginny is unhappy when Georgia talks about her past or current sex life, mimicking vomiting once after this.
* PlayingGertrude: Creator/BrianneHowey plays Georgia, mother of Ginny (whom she gave birth to at 15). Antonia Gentry plays Ginny, who's nine years younger than her.
* ProudBeauty: Georgia is quite aware of her good looks, showing them off with outfits which show her cleavage and [[ShesGotLegs legs often]], plus always making herself up before going out.
* RapeAsBackstory: It turns out that both Georgia and Maddie were molested by their step dad. First it was just Georgia, and then when she ran away to escape he molested Maddie instead.
* SelfInjury: Ginny repeatedly burns herself to cope with stress and emotional pain. Marcus is very concerned on seeing her about to, and she later talks with him about it, saying she concentrates her feelings this way to release them. He gently suggests therapy instead.
* SexGod: Ginny tells her friends that Hunter is very skilled with his tongue after he goes down on her.
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Georgia outright states that she and her daughter Ginny are like the ''Series/GilmoreGirls'' but with "bigger boobs" or at least how she views them.them.
** Austin tells the class his dad's [[Literature/HarryPotter in Azkaban as he's a dark wizard]]. He also wears round spectacles which look like the ones Harry has in the films (empty and just for show). Austin is a fan, as later we see he has ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire''. We later learn his mom told him this about his dad, inspiring Austin's Harry Potter fandom.
* SilentSnarker: Clint Baker, who's deaf, makes some sarcastic remarks in ASL.
* SlutShaming: Cynthia uses the fact Georgia is in a relationship with Mayor Paul Randolph out of wedlock and has two kids with different fathers as part of her campaign's personal attacks on him.
* StacysMom: Georgia is very attractive, and boys her daughter's age certainly notice.



* WhatAnIdiot: Ohh boy, does Georgia have several moments of these.
** Who would keep a [[spoiler: poisonous flower]] that could be easily identified ''in their own garden''?
** In Episode 8, Georgia openly takes some money from the Town Hall's account and ''puts half of it in her purse'', separated from the rest. Of course, Cynthia Miller quickly catches on to this.
** It gets better: turns out Georgia was keeping ''all the unregistered checks'' of the money she [[spoiler: stole]] from the Town Hall in her very same office, right next to a computer where any other person could see how those are not registered in the Mayor's Office balance. Oh, put in a password, you say? Of course, she has it ''written on a post-it under the keyboard''.

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* WhatAnIdiot: Ohh boy, does TeenPregnancy: Georgia have several moments of these.
gave birth to Ginny at 15.
* TheirFirstTime:
** Who would keep a [[spoiler: poisonous flower]] that could be easily identified ''in their own garden''?
** In Episode 8, Georgia openly takes some money from the Town Hall's account
Ginny early on has sex with Marcus as her first time, and ''puts half of it in loses her purse'', separated from the rest. Of course, Cynthia Miller quickly catches on to this.
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virginity this way. It gets better: later turns out Georgia was keeping ''all he'd also been a virgin at the unregistered checks'' of time, to Ginny's surprise.
** Later, Max's first is with Sophie.
* TwoferTokenMinority:
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the money she [[spoiler: stole]] only black girl in Wellesbury (aside from the Town Hall Ginny) that we see in her very same office, right next to multiple scenes. They even have a computer where any discussion about Ginny getting treated as a “token” by other person could see how those are not registered people at times.
** Max's LoveInterest Sophie is a Latina who's been
in the Mayor's Office balance. Oh, put in a password, you say? Of course, she has it ''written on a post-it under the keyboard''.relationships with both boys and girls.

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* AbusiveParents: Downplayed. Georgia Miller can be emotionally neglectful towards her children by being immature and irresponsible, but her heart is always in the right place and she ''does'' try out of genuine love for her kids.
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Downplayed. Georgia Miller can be emotionally neglectful towards her children by being immature and irresponsible, but her heart is always in the right place and she ''does'' try out of genuine love for her kids.
** [[spoiler: It's revealed that Georgia's father stepfather sexually abused her and her sister as kids, which is why Georgia ran away from home to restart her life at 14.]]



* AmbiguouslyAbsentParent: It's established that Ginny and Austin share different fathers due to explicitly being referred to as half-siblings. All Ginny says about her father is that it didn't end well and we later learn Austin's father is in prison.



* BettyAndVeronica: Ginny's Archie to the thoughtful Hunter's Betty and the brooding Marcus' Veronica. [[spoiler: She starts to be with Hunter as he's easier to date but she felt attracted by Marcus anyways starting even a kind of affair ]]
** More complicated with her mother Georgia. She's the Archie to Paul's Betty (the town mayor fitting the ideal man persona) and Zion's Veronica (her ex-boyfriend and her temptation as well) ''and'' in addition Joe's Cheryl (as her third option).

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Ginny's Archie to the thoughtful Hunter's Betty and the brooding Marcus' Veronica. [[spoiler: She starts to be with Hunter as since he's easier to date but she felt attracted by Marcus anyways starting even a kind of affair Marcus, cheating with him.]]
** More It's more complicated with her mother Georgia. She's the Archie to Paul's Betty (the town mayor fitting the ideal man persona) and Zion's Veronica (her ex-boyfriend and her temptation as well) ''and'' in addition Joe's Cheryl (as her third option).



* DisappearedDad: According to Ginny, the only man her mom ever loved was her father, and it [[NoodleIncident didn't end well]].

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* DoesntKnowTheirOwnChild: Said almost verbatim by both Georgia and Ellen, who get very surprised by their own child's secret behavior during the first season. Georgia also has no idea that Austin has been skipping school for days, and doesn't initially notice when he stops talking.

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Said almost verbatim by both Georgia and Ellen, who get very surprised by their own child's secret behavior during the first season. Georgia also has no idea that Austin has been skipping school for days, and doesn't initially notice when he stops talking.



** On the last episode of the first season, some mother friend of Cynthia says in a throwaway comment that she could be affected by her family situation. Several scenes later it's revealed [[spoiler: Cynthia's husband is ill and wheelchair-bound]].
* GayBestFriend: Max Baker quickly latches onto Ginny as her new best friend while an open lesbian.

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** On the last episode of the first season, some mother friend of Cynthia Cynthia's says in a throwaway comment that she could be affected by her family situation. Several scenes later it's revealed [[spoiler: Cynthia's husband is ill and wheelchair-bound]].
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Max Baker quickly latches onto Ginny as her new best friend while an open lesbian.



* GenerationXerox: The trailer for the series presents a {{Subversion}} of this trope where Ginny is presented as being more mature than her mother. [[spoiler: Then the first episode sees her smoking pot and losing her virginity to a boy she's only known for a day or two; while this can be attributed to being a teenage girl, it helps to show that the two aren't necessarily the same.]]
** As the first season unravels, Ginny starts to compare herself more and more to her mother (mostly when people call her out on her [[ItsAllAboutMe manipulative and selfish behavior]]), to the point that, in the final scene [[spoiler: she runs away on a stolen motorbike with her brother, just like Georgia ran up from her abusive family when she was a teenager with Ginny on tow]]. She even ''wears an old jacket from her''!

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The trailer for the series presents a {{Subversion}} of this trope where Ginny is presented as being more mature than her mother. [[spoiler: Then the first episode sees her smoking pot and losing her virginity to a boy she's only known for a day or two; while this can be attributed to being a teenage girl, it helps to show that the two aren't necessarily the same.]]
** As the first season unravels, Ginny starts to compare herself more and more to her mother (mostly when people call her out on her [[ItsAllAboutMe manipulative and selfish behavior]]), to the point that, in the final scene [[spoiler: she runs away on a stolen motorbike with her brother, just like Georgia ran up from her abusive family when she was a teenager with Ginny on tow]]. She even ''wears an old jacket from her''!



** As stated above, Ginny is ''very'' self-centered and always [[PlayingTheVictimCard plays victim]] whenever someone rightfully calls her out on her attitude.
** As the first season ends, several characters (including her own twin brother) point out Maxine is ''really'' spoiled, childish, and self-centered towards her friends and her girlfriend. More focused on her own life and problems than those around her.

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** As stated above, Ginny is ''very'' self-centered and always [[PlayingTheVictimCard plays the victim]] whenever someone rightfully calls her out on her attitude.
** As the first season ends, several characters (including her own twin brother) point out Maxine is ''really'' spoiled, childish, and self-centered towards her friends and her girlfriend. More girlfriend, more focused on her own life and problems than those around her.



* MamaBear: Georgia is shown to be extremely protective if she believes something bad is happening to her children, but it's {{Deconstructed}} given her inclination towards DisproportionateRetribution. When she finds out Austin's being bullied, she has her son beat the bully up before she threatens to break his nose to keep the kid quiet.
** It's later revealed that [[spoiler: her previous boyfriend was on the verge of sexually abusing Ginny; inappropriately touching her in one instance as Ginny resisted him. Georgia saw him touching her daughter, leading her to use wolfsbane to poison his morning smoothie, causing his heart attack and death.]]

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Georgia is shown to be extremely protective if she believes something bad is happening to her children, but it's {{Deconstructed}} given her inclination towards DisproportionateRetribution. When she finds out Austin's being bullied, she has her son beat the bully up before she threatens to break his nose to keep the kid quiet.
** It's later revealed that [[spoiler: her previous boyfriend was on the verge of sexually abusing Ginny; Ginny, inappropriately touching her in one instance as Ginny resisted him. Georgia saw him touching her daughter, leading her to use wolfsbane to poison his morning smoothie, causing his heart attack and death.]]



* OpenMindedParent: {{Deconstructed}} as any open-mindedness Georgia might show is more rooted from her being a {{Womanchild}}. Although part of it ''does'' come from her loving her kids and wanting them happy.

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* StrongFamilyResemblance: {{Averted}} as Ginny is biracial and many people are somewhat surprised to learn the white, blonde-haired Georgia is her mother (biological, at that). Doesn't help that her mother also has a strong southern accent that her daughter noticeably doesn't have, which widens the gap between their resemblance.

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* StrongFamilyResemblance: {{Averted}} {{Inverted}} as Ginny is biracial and many people are somewhat surprised to learn the white, blonde-haired Georgia is her mother (biological, at that). Doesn't help that her mother also has a strong southern accent that her daughter noticeably doesn't have, which widens the gap between their resemblance.



* WithFriendsLikeThese: Ginny, Max, Nora, and Abby ''all'' treat each other horribly at various points; with some viewers wondering how they're actually friends. Most notably, Ginny [[spoiler: has sex with Max's brother]] and keeps it a secret, Max uses her friends as props to try to hook up with a girl at a party, and ''everyone'' gets so wrapped up in their own problems they ignore Abby while she's struggling with an eating disorder and her parent's divorce. In a KickTheDog moment, when Abby calls them out on being so wrapped in their own issues they've failed to realize her near breakdown, Ginny responds by calling ''her'' selfish and instantly makes the conversation all about ''her'' personal problems. A furious Abby gives Ginny an ArmorPiercingSlap in response.
* {{Womanchild}}: Georgia Miller has all the hallmarks of one, though the fact that she has managed to keep her kids healthy and well-cared for, if not necessarily happy, is a slight twist.

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* WithFriendsLikeThese: Ginny, Max, Nora, and Abby ''all'' treat each other horribly at various points; points, with some viewers wondering how they're actually friends. Most notably, Ginny [[spoiler: has sex with Max's brother]] and keeps it a secret, Max uses her friends as props to try to hook up with a girl at a party, and ''everyone'' gets so wrapped up in their own problems they ignore Abby while she's struggling with an eating disorder and her parent's divorce. In a KickTheDog moment, when Abby calls them out on being so wrapped in their own issues they've failed to realize her near breakdown, Ginny responds by calling ''her'' selfish and instantly makes the conversation all about ''her'' personal problems. A furious Abby gives Ginny an ArmorPiercingSlap in response.
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Antonia Gentry (''Series/RaisingDion'') stars as Ginny Miller, an angsty 15-year-old who has moved to a New England town with her 9-year-old brother, Austin (Diesel La Torraca), and her mother, Georgia (Creator/BrianneHowey).

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Antonia Gentry (''Series/RaisingDion'') stars as Ginny Miller, an angsty {{Angst}}y 15-year-old who has moved to a New England town with her 9-year-old brother, Austin (Diesel La Torraca), and her mother, Georgia (Creator/BrianneHowey).



* AbsurdlyYouthfulMother: Downplayed compared to some examples, but Georgia is in her early 30s and mentioned to have gotten pregnant with Ginny when she was 15, also Ginny's age, explaining their close age range as mother/daughter.
* AbusiveParents: Downplayed. Georgia Miller can be emotionally neglectful towards her children by being immature and irresponsible, but her heart is always in the right place and she does try.
** [[spoiler: It's revealed that Georgia's father sexually abused her and her sister as kids, which is why Georgia ran away from home to restart her life.]]

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* AbsurdlyYouthfulMother: Downplayed compared to some examples, but examples. Georgia is in her early 30s and mentioned to have gotten pregnant with Ginny when she was 15, also Ginny's current age, explaining their close age range as mother/daughter.
* AbusiveParents: Downplayed. Georgia Miller can be emotionally neglectful towards her children by being immature and irresponsible, but her heart is always in the right place and she does try.''does'' try out of genuine love for her kids.
** [[spoiler: It's revealed that Georgia's father sexually abused her and her sister as kids, which is why Georgia ran away from home to restart her life.life at 14.]]



* AmbiguouslyAbsentParent: It's established that Ginny and Austin's father is not the same man due to being explicitly called her half-brother. All Ginny says about her father is that it didn't end well.
* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: On her birthday, Ginny demands that Georgia should treat her like an adult rather than a child. Georgia obliges by [[spoiler: not intervening or bailing her out when she gets arrested later in the episode]], and telling her the truth about their finances.

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* AmbiguouslyAbsentParent: It's established that Ginny and Austin's father is not the same man Austin share different fathers due to being explicitly called her half-brother. being referred to as half-siblings. All Ginny says about her father is that it didn't end well.
well and we later learn Austin's father is in prison.
* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: On her birthday, Ginny demands that Georgia should treat her like an adult rather than a child. Georgia obliges by [[spoiler: not intervening or bailing her out when she gets arrested later in the episode]], episode]] and telling her the truth about their finances.



** Georgia's main strategy for survival. She puts a pretty and smiley face... and right after stabs you in the back.
** Clean, handsome, gentle and hot mayor Paul Randolph reveals himself as somewhat one of these when he reveals himself to be cutthroat and ambitious. The extent of this, however, is yet to be seen.

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** Georgia's main strategy for survival. survival strategy. She puts on a pretty and smiley smiling face... and right after then stabs you in the back.
** Clean, handsome, gentle gentle, and hot mayor Paul Randolph reveals himself as somewhat one of these when he reveals himself to be cutthroat and ambitious. The extent of this, however, is yet to be seen.



* DisappearedDad: According to Ginny, the only man her mom ever loved was her father and it [[NoodleIncident didn't end well]].

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* DisappearedDad: According to Ginny, the only man her mom ever loved was her father father, and it [[NoodleIncident didn't end well]].



* DoesntKnowTheirOwnChild: Said almost verbatim by both Georgia and Ellen, who get very surprised by their offspring's behavior during the first season. Georgia also has no idea that Austin has been skipping school for days, and doesn't notice at first when he stops talking. Literal with Zion's, Ginny's father, who hasn't really seen her much on his life, and Austin's father, who would be more of a case of a DisappearedDad.

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* DoesntKnowTheirOwnChild: Said almost verbatim by both Georgia and Ellen, who get very surprised by their offspring's own child's secret behavior during the first season. Georgia also has no idea that Austin has been skipping school for days, and doesn't initially notice at first when he stops talking. talking.
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Literal with Zion's, Zion, Ginny's father, who hasn't really seen her much in his life due to focusing on his life, and artist career.
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Austin's father, who father would be more of a case of a DisappearedDad.



** Since the very first episode, we see Georgia tending a garden with exotic flowers (which gets repeatedly savaged and even burnt later in the season). It's revealed on Episode 8 that that flower is [[spoiler: wolfsbane, a poisonous plant]].

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** Since the very first episode, we see Georgia tending a garden with exotic flowers (which gets repeatedly savaged and even burnt later in the season). It's revealed on in Episode 8 that that flower is [[spoiler: wolfsbane, a poisonous plant]].



** After a short rivalry, Georgia seems to get one too on her partner in the Mayor's Office, Nick, who's an openly gay man.
* GenerationXerox: The trailer for the series presents a {{Subversion}} of this trope where Ginny is presented as being more mature than her mother. [[spoiler: Then the first episode sees her smoking pot and losing her virginity to a boy she's only known for a few days; while this can be attributed to being a teenage girl, it helps to show that the two aren't necessarily the same.]]

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** After a short rivalry, Georgia seems to get one too on with her partner in the Mayor's Office, Nick, who's an openly gay man.
* GenerationXerox: The trailer for the series presents a {{Subversion}} of this trope where Ginny is presented as being more mature than her mother. [[spoiler: Then the first episode sees her smoking pot and losing her virginity to a boy she's only known for a few days; day or two; while this can be attributed to being a teenage girl, it helps to show that the two aren't necessarily the same.]]



** It's later revealed that [[spoiler: her previous boyfriend was on the verge of sexually abusing Ginny, inappropriately touching her during a yoga session as Ginny resisted him. Georgia saw him touching her daughter, leading her to use wolfsbane to poison his drink, causing his heart attack and death.]]

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** It's later revealed that [[spoiler: her previous boyfriend was on the verge of sexually abusing Ginny, Ginny; inappropriately touching her during a yoga session in one instance as Ginny resisted him. Georgia saw him touching her daughter, leading her to use wolfsbane to poison his drink, morning smoothie, causing his heart attack and death.]]



* NeonSignHideout: Georgia has a hidey-hole under a floorboard in her closet where she keeps, among other things, a gun, Austin's letters to his dad that she never actually mailed, and [[spoiler: the cremated remains of her ex-husband's body that she had stolen from his grave.]] Each of her children find this hidey-hole immediately the first time they're in her closet.

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* NeonSignHideout: Georgia has a hidey-hole under a floorboard in her closet where she keeps, among other things, a gun, Austin's letters to his dad that she never actually mailed, and [[spoiler: the cremated remains of her ex-husband's body that she had stolen from his grave.]] Each of her children find finds this hidey-hole immediately the first time they're in her closet.
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* OpenMindedParent: {{Deconstructed}} as any open-mindedness Georgia might show is more because of her being a {{Womanchild}} than anything else.
** Ellen and Clint are a more realistic depiction of this kind of parents, speaking and getting agreements with their children.

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* OpenMindedParent: {{Deconstructed}} as any open-mindedness Georgia might show is more because of rooted from her being a {{Womanchild}} than anything else.
{{Womanchild}}. Although part of it ''does'' come from her loving her kids and wanting them happy.
** Ellen and Clint are a more realistic depiction depiction; while they do have a reasonable degree of this kind of parents, speaking openmindedness when it comes to raising kids in modern times, they also get into natural and getting agreements expected disagreements with their children.them.



* StrongFamilyResemblance: {{Averted}} as Ginny is biracial but not many would realize this, so it can be surprising to learn the white, blonde-haired Georgia is her mother. Doesn't help that her mother has a strong southern accent that her daughter doesn't have, which widens the gap between their resemblance.

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* StrongFamilyResemblance: {{Averted}} as Ginny is biracial but not and many would realize this, so it can be surprising people are somewhat surprised to learn the white, blonde-haired Georgia is her mother. mother (biological, at that). Doesn't help that her mother also has a strong southern accent that her daughter noticeably doesn't have, which widens the gap between their resemblance.
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* IronicEcho: When Georgia puts out an idea for a casino night instead of a bake sale, Paul shuts it down and Cynthia tells her “it’s nothing personal, Georgia”. When Georgia manages to convince Paul to hold casino night, she tells Cynthia it’s nothing personal.
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* WhatAnIdiot: Ohh boy, does Georgia have several moments of these.
** Who would keep a [[spoiler: poisonous flower]] that could be easily identified ''in their own garden''?
** In Episode 8, Georgia openly takes some money from the Town Hall's account and ''puts half of it in her purse'', separated from the rest. Of course, Cynthia Miller quickly catches on to this.
** It gets better: turns out Georgia was keeping ''all the unregistered checks'' of the money she [[spoiler: stole]] from the Town Hall in her very same office, right next to a computer where any other person could see how those are not registered in the Mayor's Office balance. Oh, put in a password, you say? Of course, she has it ''written on a post-it under the keyboard''.
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Antonia Gentry (''Series/RaisingDion'') stars as Ginny Miller, an angsty 15-year-old who has moved to a New England town with her 9-year-old brother, Austin (Diesel La Torraca), and her mother, Georgia (Brianne Howey (''Series/ThePassage'')).

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Antonia Gentry (''Series/RaisingDion'') stars as Ginny Miller, an angsty 15-year-old who has moved to a New England town with her 9-year-old brother, Austin (Diesel La Torraca), and her mother, Georgia (Brianne Howey (''Series/ThePassage'')).
(Creator/BrianneHowey).
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'''''Ginny & Georgia''''' is an American {{dramedy}} streaming TV series created by [[https://www.imdb.com/name/nm7741500/ Sarah Lampert]], released by Creator/{{Netflix}} on February 24th, 2021.

[[Series/RaisingDion Antonia Gentry]] stars as Ginny Miller, an angsty 15-year-old who has moved to a New England town with her 9-year-old brother, Austin ([[https://www.imdb.com/name/nm9798289/ Diesel La Torraca]]), and her mother, Georgia ([[Series/ThePassage Brianne Howey]]).

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'''''Ginny & Georgia''''' is an American {{dramedy}} streaming TV series created by [[https://www.imdb.com/name/nm7741500/ Sarah Lampert]], Lampert, released by Creator/{{Netflix}} on February 24th, 2021.

[[Series/RaisingDion Antonia Gentry]] Gentry (''Series/RaisingDion'') stars as Ginny Miller, an angsty 15-year-old who has moved to a New England town with her 9-year-old brother, Austin ([[https://www.imdb.com/name/nm9798289/ Diesel (Diesel La Torraca]]), Torraca), and her mother, Georgia ([[Series/ThePassage Brianne Howey]]).
(Brianne Howey (''Series/ThePassage'')).



The trailer for the series can be [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsacpJwXCO8 found here]].

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The trailer for the series can be [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsacpJwXCO8 found here]]. A second season is due to premiere in 2022.

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In the wake of her stepfather's death, Ginny is forced to balance between being the new girl in school and being the only responsible figure in her household. Quickly, though, she soon finds a new friend in openly lesbian Maxine "Max" Baker and a love interest in Max's bad boy twin brother, Marcus.

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In the wake of her stepfather's death, Ginny is forced to balance between being the new girl in school and being the only responsible figure in her household. Quickly, though, she soon finds a new friend in openly lesbian Maxine "Max" Baker and a love interest in Max's bad boy bad-boy twin brother, Marcus.



* HiddenDepths: In her very last scene of the first season, Cynthia Fuller gets this: it's revealed she has to take care of her ill husband and their child, maybe explaining her self-centered and unpleasant behavior.



* StrongFamilyResemblance: {{Averted}} as Ginny is biracial but not many would realize this, so it can be surprising to learn the blonde-haired white Georgia is her mother. Doesn't help that her mother has a strong accent that her daughter doesn't have, which widens the gap between their resemblance.

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* StrongFamilyResemblance: {{Averted}} as Ginny is biracial but not many would realize this, so it can be surprising to learn the white, blonde-haired white Georgia is her mother. Doesn't help that her mother has a strong southern accent that her daughter doesn't have, which widens the gap between their resemblance.



* {{Womanchild}}: Georgia Miller has all the hallmarks of one, though the fact that she has managed to keep her kids healthy, if not necessarily happy, is a slight twist.

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* {{Womanchild}}: Georgia Miller has all the hallmarks of one, though the fact that she has managed to keep her kids healthy, healthy and well-cared for, if not necessarily happy, is a slight twist.
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* ItsAllAboutMe: Several of the major characters have this, especially between the teen cast (so it could be justified by this).
** Ginny's father, Zion, could be seen as this; flashbacks imply it was ''Georgia'' herself who convinced him to leave her and Ginny in order to become the artist he dreamed of being. However, this doesn't explain why he barely visits his own daughter, [[spoiler: or sleeps with Georgia when she's just argued with her boyfriend]].
** As stated above, Ginny is ''very'' self-centered and always [[PlayingTheVictimCard plays victim]] whenever someone rightfully calls her out on her attitude.
** As the first season ends, several characters (including her own twin brother) point out Maxine is ''really'' spoiled, childish, and self-centered towards her friends and her girlfriend. More focused on her own life and problems than those around her.
** Abby could be seen as this. Some view this as justified, though, since her parents are divorcing (which has clearly traumatized her) and she's having self-image troubles (even taping down her legs to appear thinner and has an implied eating disorder). She also called for a meeting with her friends to open up about her negative feelings regarding this, only to be met with a KickTheDog moment by Ginny, which made many viewers sympathize with Abby.
** This gets finally subverted with Cynthia Fuller, Paul and Georgia's political rival: at first it seems as if she just wants to impose her vision of how the town should look and be and get back at Georgia, but her last scene of the first season implies she has a difficult domestic life (her husband is wheelchair-bound) and that she really wanted to make some good for her town.
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* AbsurdlyYouthfulMother: Downplayed compared to some examples, but Georgia is in her 30s and mentioned to have gotten pregnant with Ginny when she was her daughter's age, explaining their close age range as mother/daughter.

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* AbsurdlyYouthfulMother: Downplayed compared to some examples, but Georgia is in her early 30s and mentioned to have gotten pregnant with Ginny when she was her daughter's 15, also Ginny's age, explaining their close age range as mother/daughter.



** Ginny's friends accuse her of this when they discover she [[spoiler: slept with Marcus and refused to tell them]] and her general ItsAllAboutMe behavior.

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** Ginny's Ginny can be seen as this given her overall attitude, and her friends directly accuse her of this when they discover she [[spoiler: slept with Marcus and refused to tell them]] and her general ItsAllAboutMe behavior.kept it a secret]].
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* WithFriendsLikeThese: Ginny, Max, Nora, and Abby ''all'' treat each other horribly at various points; with some viewers wondering how they're actually friends. Most notably, Ginny [[spoiler: has sex with Max's brother]] and keeps it a secret, Max uses her friends as props to try to hook up with a girl at a party, and ''everyone'' gets so wrapped up in their own problems they ignore Abby while she's struggling with an eating disorder and her parent's divorce. In a KickTheDog moment, when Abby calls them out on being so wrapped in their own issues they've failed to realize her near breakdown, Ginny responds by calling ''her'' selfish and making the conversation all about ''her'' personal problems. Making Abby give Ginny an ArmorPiercingSlap in response.

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* WithFriendsLikeThese: Ginny, Max, Nora, and Abby ''all'' treat each other horribly at various points; with some viewers wondering how they're actually friends. Most notably, Ginny [[spoiler: has sex with Max's brother]] and keeps it a secret, Max uses her friends as props to try to hook up with a girl at a party, and ''everyone'' gets so wrapped up in their own problems they ignore Abby while she's struggling with an eating disorder and her parent's divorce. In a KickTheDog moment, when Abby calls them out on being so wrapped in their own issues they've failed to realize her near breakdown, Ginny responds by calling ''her'' selfish and making instantly makes the conversation all about ''her'' personal problems. Making A furious Abby give gives Ginny an ArmorPiercingSlap in response.
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* WithFriendsLikeThese: Ginny, Max, Nora, and Abby ''all'' treat each other horribly at various points. Most notably, Ginny [[spoiler: has sex with Max's brother]] and keeps it a secret from her, Max uses her friends as props to try to hook up with a girl at a party, and ''everyone'' ignores Abby while she's struggling with an eating disorder and her parents' divorce and then accuses ''her'' of being selfish when she finally calls them out on it.

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* WithFriendsLikeThese: Ginny, Max, Nora, and Abby ''all'' treat each other horribly at various points. points; with some viewers wondering how they're actually friends. Most notably, Ginny [[spoiler: has sex with Max's brother]] and keeps it a secret from her, secret, Max uses her friends as props to try to hook up with a girl at a party, and ''everyone'' ignores gets so wrapped up in their own problems they ignore Abby while she's struggling with an eating disorder and her parents' divorce and then accuses parent's divorce. In a KickTheDog moment, when Abby calls them out on being so wrapped in their own issues they've failed to realize her near breakdown, Ginny responds by calling ''her'' of being selfish when she finally calls them out on it.and making the conversation all about ''her'' personal problems. Making Abby give Ginny an ArmorPiercingSlap in response.
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* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: On her birthday, Ginny insists that Georgia should start treating her like an adult rather than a child. Georgia obliges by [[spoiler: not intervening or bailing her out when she gets arrested later in the episode]], and telling her the truth about their finances.

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* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: On her birthday, Ginny insists demands that Georgia should start treating treat her like an adult rather than a child. Georgia obliges by [[spoiler: not intervening or bailing her out when she gets arrested later in the episode]], and telling her the truth about their finances.



* ChildrenRaiseYou: PlayedWith. The series describes Ginny as being more mature than her 30-something mother who, despite her apparent immaturity, can afford a nice home and good clothes for her kids. However, to her credit, Georgia does her best to give her kids the good life she didn't have.

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* ChildrenRaiseYou: PlayedWith. The series describes Ginny as being more mature than her 30-something mother who, despite her apparent immaturity, can afford a nice home and good clothes for her kids. (Although, Ginny's maturity is rather [[BaseBreakingCharacter up for debate]].) However, to her credit, Georgia does her best to give her kids the good life she didn't have.
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* DoesntKnowTheirOwnChild: Said almost verbatim by both Georgia and Ellen, who get very surprised by their offspring's behavior during the first season. Literal with Zion's, Ginny's father, who hasn't really seen her much on his life, and Austin's father, who would be more of a case of a DisappearedDad.

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* DoesntKnowTheirOwnChild: Said almost verbatim by both Georgia and Ellen, who get very surprised by their offspring's behavior during the first season. Georgia also has no idea that Austin has been skipping school for days, and doesn't notice at first when he stops talking. Literal with Zion's, Ginny's father, who hasn't really seen her much on his life, and Austin's father, who would be more of a case of a DisappearedDad.
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* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: On her birthday, Ginny insists that Georgia should start treating her like an adult rather than a child. Georgia obliges by [[spoiler: not intervening or bailing her out when she gets arrested later in the episode]], and telling her the truth about their finances.
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* WithFriendsLikeThese: Ginny, Max, Nora, and Abby ''all'' treat each other horribly at various points. Most notably, Ginny [[spoiler: has sex with Max's brother]] and keeps it a secret from her, Max uses her friends as props to try to hook up with a girl at a party, and ''everyone'' ignores Abby while she's struggling with an eating disorder and her parents' divorce and then accuses ''her'' of being selfish when she finally calls them out on it.

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* WhatAnIdiot: Ohh boy, does Georgia have several moments of these.
** Who would keep a [[spoiler: poisonous flower]] that could be easily identified ''in their own garden''?
** In Episode 8, Georgia openly takes some money from the Town Hall's account and ''puts half of it in her purse'', separated from the rest. Of course, Cynthia Miller quickly catches on to this.
** It gets better: turns out Georgia was keeping ''all the unregistered checks'' of the money she [[spoiler: stole]] from the Town Hall in her very same office, right next to a computer where any other person could see how those are not registered in the Mayor's Office balance. Oh, put a password, you say? Of course she has it ''written on a post-it under the keyboard''.

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* WhatAnIdiot: Ohh boy, does Georgia have several moments of these.
** Who would keep a [[spoiler: poisonous flower]] that could be easily identified ''in their own garden''?
** In Episode 8, Georgia openly takes some money from the Town Hall's account and ''puts half of it in her purse'', separated from the rest. Of course, Cynthia Miller quickly catches on to this.
** It gets better: turns out Georgia was keeping ''all the unregistered checks'' of the money she [[spoiler: stole]] from the Town Hall in her very same office, right next to a computer where any other person could see how those are not registered in the Mayor's Office balance. Oh, put a password, you say? Of course she has it ''written on a post-it under the keyboard''.
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* {{Padding}}: It's been noted by reviewers how the show tends to have a musical/dance number/montage in almost every episode that doesn't actually bring anything to the story.
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* NeonSignHideout: Georgia has a hidey-hole under a floorboard in her closet where she keeps, among other things, a gun, Austin's letters to his dad that she never actually mailed, and [[spoiler: the cremated remains of her ex-husband's body that she had stolen from his grave.]] Each of her children find this hidey-hole immediately the first time they're in her closet.

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