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* CompletelyMissingThePoint: Arthur Frobisher in the Season 1 finale. He tells his son that, "I made a very big mistake, and I'm going to be paying for it for the rest of my life." And just what was this big mistake? "I trusted too many people."
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'''Patty Hewes''': A brilliant attorney who wins her high-stakes lawsuits by [[BlackmailIsSuchAnUglyWord any means]] [[PrettyLittleHeadshots necessary]]. Hewes is a tempered-steel IronLady, but still manages to frequently surprise with the depths she'll sink to to PayEvilUntoEvil. Her backstory and true motivations are slowly revealed as the series progresses. Could easily be the poster child for AmoralAttorney, and in any other show, would be the villain.
'''Ellen Parsons''': A NaiveNewcomer right out of law school hired by Hewes. Essentially the entire first season is one long BreakTheCutie for her, as she slowly catches on to the rules of Patty's world and begins to manipulate them for her own ends. Serves as something of a {{Foil}} for Patty early on, before TakingALevelInBadass. The contrast and relationship between Ellen and Patty is a central theme of the show, and in fact the rest of the plot was constructed around it.
'''Tom Shayes''': Patty's right-hand man and Ellen's mentor. Tom's morals are somewhat less flexible than Patty's, which in this show just makes him the ButtMonkey. Serves as Patty's [[TheLancer Lancer]], when she has something his morals can handle.
'''Arthur Frobisher''': A CorruptCorporateExecutive on the receiving end of the Season 1 case. [[ItsAllAboutMe Selfish]], [[{{Jerkass}} arrogant]], and [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope ruthless]] in his attempts to defend himself. Already at a slow roll down the slippery slope at the series open and picks up speed over the course of the season.
'''Ray Fiske''': Frobisher's lawyer and Patty's WorthyOpponent. Unusually for an antagonistic lawyer, he's fairly sympathetic and his legal ethics are if anything stricter than Patty's (not that that's saying much). Does his best to rein in Frobisher's bull-headed tendencies, and to keep the wolves at bay to [[EvenEvilHasStandards win the case without bloodshed]].
'''Ellen Parsons''': A NaiveNewcomer right out of law school hired by Hewes. Essentially the entire first season is one long BreakTheCutie for her, as she slowly catches on to the rules of Patty's world and begins to manipulate them for her own ends. Serves as something of a {{Foil}} for Patty early on, before TakingALevelInBadass. The contrast and relationship between Ellen and Patty is a central theme of the show, and in fact the rest of the plot was constructed around it.
'''Tom Shayes''': Patty's right-hand man and Ellen's mentor. Tom's morals are somewhat less flexible than Patty's, which in this show just makes him the ButtMonkey. Serves as Patty's [[TheLancer Lancer]], when she has something his morals can handle.
'''Arthur Frobisher''': A CorruptCorporateExecutive on the receiving end of the Season 1 case. [[ItsAllAboutMe Selfish]], [[{{Jerkass}} arrogant]], and [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope ruthless]] in his attempts to defend himself. Already at a slow roll down the slippery slope at the series open and picks up speed over the course of the season.
'''Ray Fiske''': Frobisher's lawyer and Patty's WorthyOpponent. Unusually for an antagonistic lawyer, he's fairly sympathetic and his legal ethics are if anything stricter than Patty's (not that that's saying much). Does his best to rein in Frobisher's bull-headed tendencies, and to keep the wolves at bay to [[EvenEvilHasStandards win the case without bloodshed]].
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* '''Patty Hewes''': A brilliant attorney who wins her high-stakes lawsuits by [[BlackmailIsSuchAnUglyWord any means]] [[PrettyLittleHeadshots necessary]]. Hewes is a tempered-steel IronLady, but still manages to frequently surprise with the depths she'll sink to to PayEvilUntoEvil. Her backstory and true motivations are slowly revealed as the series progresses. Could easily be the poster child for AmoralAttorney, and in any other show, would be the villain.
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* '''Ellen Parsons''': A NaiveNewcomer right out of law school hired by Hewes. Essentially the entire first season is one long BreakTheCutie for her, as she slowly catches on to the rules of Patty's world and begins to manipulate them for her own ends. Serves as something of a {{Foil}} for Patty early on, before TakingALevelInBadass. The contrast and relationship between Ellen and Patty is a central theme of the show, and in fact the rest of the plot was constructed aroundit.
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* '''Tom Shayes''': Patty's right-hand man and Ellen's mentor. Tom's morals are somewhat less flexible than Patty's, which in this show just makes him the ButtMonkey. Serves as Patty's [[TheLancer Lancer]], when she has something his morals canhandle.
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* '''Arthur Frobisher''': A CorruptCorporateExecutive on the receiving end of the Season 1 case. [[ItsAllAboutMe Selfish]], [[{{Jerkass}} arrogant]], and [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope ruthless]] in his attempts to defend himself. Already at a slow roll down the slippery slope at the series open and picks up speed over the course of theseason.
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* '''Ray Fiske''': Frobisher's lawyer and Patty's WorthyOpponent. Unusually for an antagonistic lawyer, he's fairly sympathetic and his legal ethics are if anything stricter than Patty's (not that that's saying much). Does his best to rein in Frobisher's bull-headed tendencies, and to keep the wolves at bay to [[EvenEvilHasStandards win the case without bloodshed]].
* '''Ellen Parsons''': A NaiveNewcomer right out of law school hired by Hewes. Essentially the entire first season is one long BreakTheCutie for her, as she slowly catches on to the rules of Patty's world and begins to manipulate them for her own ends. Serves as something of a {{Foil}} for Patty early on, before TakingALevelInBadass. The contrast and relationship between Ellen and Patty is a central theme of the show, and in fact the rest of the plot was constructed around
* '''Tom Shayes''': Patty's right-hand man and Ellen's mentor. Tom's morals are somewhat less flexible than Patty's, which in this show just makes him the ButtMonkey. Serves as Patty's [[TheLancer Lancer]], when she has something his morals can
* '''Arthur Frobisher''': A CorruptCorporateExecutive on the receiving end of the Season 1 case. [[ItsAllAboutMe Selfish]], [[{{Jerkass}} arrogant]], and [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope ruthless]] in his attempts to defend himself. Already at a slow roll down the slippery slope at the series open and picks up speed over the course of the
* '''Ray Fiske''': Frobisher's lawyer and Patty's WorthyOpponent. Unusually for an antagonistic lawyer, he's fairly sympathetic and his legal ethics are if anything stricter than Patty's (not that that's saying much). Does his best to rein in Frobisher's bull-headed tendencies, and to keep the wolves at bay to [[EvenEvilHasStandards win the case without bloodshed]].
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Not So Different has been renamed, and it needs to be dewicked/moved
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* NotSoDifferent: Patty is, if anything, ''more'' ruthless than Ray Fiske in the first season. [[spoiler: Fiske's only initial crime was insider trading, and he constantly resists Frobisher's bull-headed attempts to make things go away. Compared to Patty's several direct killings, blackmail, etc, Fiske is practically a Boy Scout.]]
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The show makes heavy use of AnachronicOrder to create drama and tension, as the pieces of the ForegoneConclusion fall into place. Each episode reveals one piece of the puzzle in each the present and the future, and maintains a mix of events that a GenreSavvy viewer will catch on to just in time and {{Shocking Swerve}}s that subvert such GenreSavvy to great effect. The political twists and turns are deep enough to make Creator/TomClancy blush, without becoming a KudzuPlot.
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The show makes heavy use of AnachronicOrder to create drama and tension, as the pieces of the ForegoneConclusion fall into place. Each episode reveals one piece of the puzzle in each the present and the future, and maintains a mix of events that a GenreSavvy viewer will catch on to just in time and {{Shocking Swerve}}s twists that subvert such GenreSavvy to great effect. The political twists and turns are deep enough to make Creator/TomClancy blush, without becoming a KudzuPlot.
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* AffablyEvil: Arthur Frobisher and, to a lesser extent, his [[TheDragon Dragon]] Ray Fiske.
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* AffablyEvil: Arthur Frobisher and, to starts off this way before his self-denial peels away and he becomes FauxAffablyEvil. To a lesser extent, his [[TheDragon Dragon]] Ray Fiske.Fiske is largely less evil and more affable, but definitely still falls under this.
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* [[KickTheSonOfABitch Break The Bitch]]: ''But You Don't Do That Anymore'', with [[spoiler: Patty's actions ending up getting her son Michael killed.]]
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* [[KickTheSonOfABitch Break The Bitch]]: KickTheSonOfABitch: ''But You Don't Do That Anymore'', with [[spoiler: Patty's actions ending up getting her son Michael killed.]]
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* ConvenientPhotograph: In Season 3, Ellen makes the connection between Tessa, Louis's illegitimate daughter — or, as the end of the season reveals, [[spoiler:Joe's]] — and the Tobins as the person money laundering for them when Tessa is caught in the background of a photograph taken at their house on Thanksgiving.
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** He seems to genuinely love his wife, so it may be IfItsYouItsOkay or BiTheWay. [[spoiler:He doesn't live long enough to make it clear.]]
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** He seems to genuinely love his wife, so it may be IfItsYouItsOkay or BiTheWay.he's bi. [[spoiler:He doesn't live long enough to make it clear.]]
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Premiering on Creator/{{FX}} in 2007, ''Damages'' didn't maintain a strong viewership during its first season, and continued to drop in ratings afterward despite wide critical acclaim. The show was dropped by FX after three seasons and picked up [=DirecTV=]'s Audience Network for two more, finally ending in 2012.
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Premiering on Creator/{{FX}} Creator/{{FX|Networks}} in 2007, ''Damages'' didn't maintain a strong viewership during its first season, and continued to drop in ratings afterward despite wide critical acclaim. The show was dropped by FX after three seasons and picked up [=DirecTV=]'s Audience Network for two more, finally ending in 2012.
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** The series as a whole ends with [[spoiler: Ellen quitting the law to raise her daughter with Chris, implicitly because she realized that she could never truly beat Patty without becoming her.]]
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** The series as a whole ends with [[spoiler: Ellen quitting the law to raise her daughter with Chris, implicitly because she realized that she could never truly beat Patty without becoming her. Though Patty doesn't get away unscathed either as her son Patrick ends up murdered, inadvertently due to her machinations.]]
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Killed Off For Real is only for works where resurrection exists, but isn't used for a particular character for whatever reason. A character dying where resurrection isn't possible is simply Character Death.
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* KilledOffForReal: Everyone the show kills off is actually dead, although some keep coming back in dreams and flashbacks.
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* PhotoPsychic: In Season 3, Ellen only learns that [[spoiler:Carol Tobin]] visited [[spoiler:Danielle Marchetti]] on the night she died because she happened to be in the picture that Ellen wanted a witness to identify [[spoiler:Joe Tobin]] from.
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This is either entirely wrong or written too early - the final episodes make it clear that, no matter how reprehensible Boorman's actions were, his main objective was to protect his son.
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** Season four takes the cake with Jerry Boorman; a corrupt CIA Agent who has gleefully broken EVERY law imaginable, all in the name of ensuring no one can out him for the laws he has broken part of the "War on Terror". Seven episodes into the season, pretty much EVERY act of murder or violence can be linked to Boorman, either directly or through him forcing his cohort, Howard Erickson, into doing it under threat that if he doesn't and Boorman gets busted, that he will take Erickson down with him.
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A dark conspiracy/thriller/drama series with a legal theme, starring Creator/GlennClose as the ruthless lawyer Patty Hewes and Creator/RoseByrne as her protégé (and later rival) Ellen Parsons. Unusually for a legal series, each season follows a single case in detail rather than a MonsterOfTheWeek format.
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A dark conspiracy/thriller/drama series with a legal theme theme, starring Creator/GlennClose as the ruthless lawyer Patty Hewes and Creator/RoseByrne as her protégé (and later rival) Ellen Parsons. Unusually for a legal series, each season follows a single case in detail rather than a MonsterOfTheWeek format.
''Damages'' is ''extremely'' dark, about as far on the cynical side of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism as you can get - the "good guys" on this show, such as they are, would be villains in any other. The (Season 1 - anything beyond would contain spoilers) cast includes:
''Damages'' is ''extremely'' dark, about as far on the cynical side of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism as you can get - the "good guys" on this show, such as they are, would be villains in any other. The (Season 1 - anything beyond would contain spoilers) cast includes:
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''Damages'' didn't maintain a strong viewership during its first season, and has continued to drop in ratings since, despite wide critical acclaim. The show went three seasons on Creator/{{FX}} before being cancelled, and has been picked up by satellite TV provider [=DirecTV=]'s Audience Network for two more; the first two seasons are available on Netflix. Seasons 4 and 5 will each be ten episodes in length.
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Premiering on Creator/{{FX}} in 2007, ''Damages'' didn't maintain a strong viewership during its first season, and has continued to drop in ratings since, afterward despite wide critical acclaim. The show went was dropped by FX after three seasons on Creator/{{FX}} before being cancelled, and has been picked up by satellite TV provider [=DirecTV=]'s Audience Network for two more; the first two seasons are available on Netflix. Seasons 4 and 5 will each be ten episodes more, finally ending in length.
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A dark conspiracy/thriller/drama series with a legal theme starring Creator/GlennClose as the ruthless lawyer Patty Hewes.Hewes and Creator/RoseByrne as her protégé (and later rival) Ellen Parsons. Unusually for a legal series, each season follows a single case in detail rather than a MonsterOfTheWeek format. ''Damages'' is ''extremely'' dark, about as far on the cynical side of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism as you can get - the "good guys" on this show, such as they are, would be villains in any other. The (Season 1 - anything beyond would contain spoilers) cast includes:
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[[caption-width-right:350: UsefulNotes/MargaretThatcher has nothing on ''this'' IronLady.]]
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* EnemyMine: [[spoiler:Frobisher helps Patty to start the case against Kendrick in season 2.]]
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* StrangeBedfellows : [[spoiler:Frobisher helps Patty to start the case against Kendrick in season 2]]
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**Possibly the most important one in the whole series is Hollis Nye's business card from the first episode, which [[spoiler: gets stained with Patrick Scully's blood when he tries to kill Ellen, allowing her to identify him from his DNA in Season 5.]]
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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: At at the end of the series finale, it's not explicitly stated whether [[spoiler:Patrick Scully]] was apprehended after he [[spoiler: killed Michael]], or whether Patty followed up on her intention to [[spoiler: take down Helmut Torben and Bennett Herreschoff]].
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**The series as a whole ends with [[spoiler: Ellen quitting the law to raise her daughter with Chris, implicitly because she realized that she could never truly beat Patty without becoming her.]]
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* Bookends: The FlashForward scenes in the final season show Patty being interviewed by the same detectives who questioned Ellen in Season 1's FlashForward scenes.
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* Bookends: The FlashForward scenes in the final season show Patty being interviewed by the same detectives who questioned Ellen in Season 1's FlashForward scenes.
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**Patty has a non-verbal one at the very end of Season 4, when she sees that [[spoiler: Ellen is Michael's sole witness in the custody case]].
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* GoodIsNotNice: Define "good".
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* HeelFaceRevolvingDoor: [[spoiler: Frobisher.]]
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* [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections Screw The Rules, I Have Connections]]: Dave Pell's M.O. as well as Howard Erickson's.
* [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney Screw The Rules, I Have Money]]: Arthur Frobisher's M.O.
* [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney Screw The Rules, I Have Money]]: Arthur Frobisher's M.O.
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* [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections Screw The Rules, I Have Connections]]: ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections: Dave Pell's M.O. as well as Howard Erickson's.
*[[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney Screw The Rules, I Have Money]]: ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney: Arthur Frobisher's M.O.
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*** And as of the season 5 premiere, [[spoiler: Ellen]] can be crossed off that list.
*** [[spoiler: She cannot, actually, as it was faked]].
*** [[spoiler: She cannot, actually, as it was faked]].
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* ButtMonkey: Arguably Tom Shayes. He is one of the few characters in the series with black and white morals and he gets little to no respect for it. [[spoiler: He even gets KilledOffForReal in Season 3!]]
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* ButtMonkey: Arguably Tom Shayes. He is one of the few characters in the series with black and white morals and he gets little to no respect for it. [[spoiler: He even gets KilledOffForReal in Season 3!]]
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* SurpriseCarCrash: At one point in the third season, Patty is suddenly rammed in her car by her own son, Michael, who is upset that she arranged for his lover, who she disliked, to be arrested.
