History Sandbox / RJ-CLOVIS-93

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* Date of ascension: 22 May (repost 16 and 19 May)

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[[folder:Edgar the Bug]]
'''[[Film/MenInBlack "Edgar"]], God of StumblingInTheNewForm''' (Edgar the Bug, [[NamedInTheAdaptation Kerb]])
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* Adopted from: Adopted from Tropers/{{Shinobi}}
* Hall: Pantheon/{{Shapeshifters}} (House of Pantheon/{{Shape}})
* Lesser God
* Symbol: Cockroaches drinking sugar water
* Alignment: NeutralEvil
* Portfolio: InsectoidAliens [[CreepyCockroach A Nasty Roach]] [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex With An Inferiority Complex]], BigBad, KillAndReplace Edgar [[GenuineHumanHide And Use His Hide As A Disguise]] ([[HughMann Not A Good One]], [[BodyHorror Especially Since Decomposition's A Thing]]), AtrociousArthropods, FantasticRacism towards mammals, EloquentInMyNativeTongue, [[AssholeVictim No-One Particularly Misses His "Host"]], [[AffablyEvil Tries To Be Cordial Around Humans]], [[PetTheDog Notably His Host's Wife]], SinisterSweetTooth, AxCrazy, [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes Has Sympathy For Earth's Bugs]] [[BerserkButton And Reacts Poorly To Them Being Squished]], StumblingInTheNewForm, EvilIsBigger, GeniusBruiser, [[HalfTheManHeUsedToBe Still Kicking After Losing His Torso]], [[NoNameGiven His Actual Name Isn't Mentioned]]
* Domains: Bugs, Aliens, Criminals, "Disguises", Brutishness, Inferiority Complexes
* Allies: [[Pantheon/{{Arthropods}} Arachne, Shelob]], [[Pantheon/{{Insects}} The Terraformars]], [[Pantheon/FormMentalities Albedo (Ben 10)]]
* TeethClenchedTeamwork with: [[Pantheon/{{Extraterrestrials}} Zim]]
* Business relationship with: [[Pantheon/{{Commerce}} Charles Montgomery Burns]], [[Pantheon/{{Consumption}} Jabba the Hutt]], [[Pantheon/RoyaltyOther Nute Gunray]]
* Rival: [[Pantheon/TimePlacement Boris the Animal]]
* Enemies: '''[[Pantheon/PlainNeutral Agent K and Agent J]]''', "space cops" (so [[Pantheon/DreadAndValor the Earth Green Lanterns]], [[Pantheon/CelestialBodiesAndStars Team Lightyear, the Space Sheriffs]]), [[Pantheon/{{Futurama}} The Planet Express crew]], [[Pantheon/Warhammer40000 The Imperium of Mankind]], [[Pantheon/StarWars The Galactic Empire]] (albeit ineffectually), [[Pantheon/{{Mindsets}} Billy]], [[Pantheon/BeastHandlers Shino Aburame]], [[Pantheon/{{Unpopularity}} Dib]], [[Pantheon/TimeAndTemporality The Doctor]], [[Pantheon/GameMechanics the Spore Player Race]], [[Pantheon/{{Sizes}} Hank Pym/Ant-Man]]
* SitcomArchnemesis with: [[Pantheon/{{Insects}} Fritz Von Meyer]]
* Respects: The Halls of Pantheon/{{Arthropods}} and Pantheon/{{Insects}} (except Lolth and the Radiance, because EvenEvilHasStandards), [[Pantheon/BeastHandlers Agitha]], [[Pantheon/CourageAndVirtue James Henry Trotter]] (one-sided; they're more wary of him)
* Annoyed by: [[Pantheon/{{Disguises}} Rubber Soul]], [[Pantheon/TortureAndMutilation Ramsay Bolton]]
* Distrusted by: [[Pantheon/ImpostorsAndImpersonations The Crewmates]], [[Pantheon/{{Extraterrestrials}} E.T the Extraterrestrial]]
* Imagine a giant cockroach, with unlimited strength, a massive inferiority complex, and a real short temper. That's a handy description of the alien terrorist known as Edgar the Bug, though strictly speaking "Edgar" is the name of his "disguise". Coming to Earth in hopes of obtaining [[MacGuffin the Arquillian Galaxy]], as a 12 foot cockroach he needed to keep that under wraps. So he killed a farm called Edgar and wore his hide like an ill-fitting suit. Given the radically different physiology [[StumblingInTheNewForm it made his movements awkward and gangly]], made worse by the fact [[BodyHorror natural decay was in effect]]. Still, it wouldn't matter if he got his plan to work; kickstart an Arquillian war against Earth, allowing him and his brethren to feed on all the dead bodies they want and use the power of the Galaxy for boundless energy. Time almost ran out, however he was fortunately thwarted by Agent J and Agent K. Even then, [[WesternAnimation/MenInBlackTheSeries he had family who wanted some payback for what happened]].
* Edgar woke up from a dream of a warm, humid land with rivers of sugar water and all the detritus and carrion he could eat. If that was "Bug Heaven", the Men in Black felt whatever god they have was feeling merciful all things considered. To his horror, he woke up in the human "Edgar suit", in a domicile with spare "Edgar suits". He noticed unlike the original they were artificial, making them more viable for a disguise. Calming down, he decided to ask if anyone was there and what this was about. He was approached by an ambassador of the Court of the Gods saying he had woken up in a larger universe, the Trope Pantheon, and despite his crimes he did earn a new title; God of StumblingInTheNewForm. Since this was a second chance of life, the roach decided to take this. The Men in Black were livid at yet another major perp making his face known, and he wasn't too fond of seeing them again either. But hey, at this point Agent K and Agent J have kind of gotten used to stuff like this happening.
* He's generally just called Edgar, sometimes Edgar the Bug or even the Bug. This is because his true name isn't stated in the movie or almost any other form of media. He doesn't mind if people use it, learning [[WesternAnimation/MenInBlackTheSeries his brother would go by Edwin]], but he mentions that he is named in the novelization-Kerb. Bugs [[AlwaysChaoticEvil have a rep of being full on nasty]], though EvenEvilHasLovedOnes is still in effect. And [[EvenEvilHasStandards he's not without standards]], like being annoyed by "primitive gender squabbling" and J's brazen womanizing. This makes him ALighterShadeOfBlack compared to Boris the Animal. Both have a clear arthropod thing going on and their own schemes to make their people prosper at the expense of the Earth, but Edgar considers his ambitions too destructive and that they stand in the way of his own goals. Boris thinks Edgar is a hypocrite, pointing out by endangering the Earth he was also endangering the insects he was fond of that lived on it. The two aren't enemies per say, as the MIB have their attention, but they don't even try to get along.
* It's not clear how exactly he got the "suit" "off" Edgar the farmer, [[GoryDiscretionShot but fortunately we never see the remains]]. [[GenuineHumanHide Given he's tight fit in human skin]], [[FlayingAlive the farmer didn't]] [[CruelAndUnusualDeath die peacefully]]. He wishes he could've made it a more fool-proof disguise, like how the Lich was able to fit into Billy's hide so well he even managed to hide the horn...and that's the only thing he'll say about the guy [[HorrifyingTheHorror as he's scared of the]] OmnicidalManiac. Ramsay Bolton wishes he could've witnessed what happened to the farmer and he wants to see Edgar more at work, as he's a fan of "[[FlayingAlive the Bolton tradition]]", however this creeps out Edgar. As he put it "[[FantasticRacism you mammals are under-evolved pond scum]] [[InsultToRocks but saying that would be a compliment]] [[EvenEvilHasStandards to a sicko like you!]]" He's more ambivalent towards [[Pantheon/ObsceneActions Leatherface]], the official holder of the GenuineHumanHide trope, but he still thinks he's a weirdo.
* His ability to impersonate human beings [[HughMann is limited]], though this is more due to physical problems than anything. Just because his disguise isn't all that convincing doesn't mean he's an idiot, as he's pretty cunning and good with technology; it's just that he's gotta make do what his massive frame permits. Rubber Soul heckled him for it, promoting his own ability to disguise himself, but rather than falling for the taunt the roach fired back; he critiqued him for [[PerfectDisguiseTerribleActing being so good at looking like other people, but not bothering to act like them]]. However he isn't interested in starting a fight, even if his {{Jerkass}} attitude annoys him, because he's curious as to what a properly trained Yellow Temperance could accomplish. Since Edgar is a hostile alien that impersonated a human being he's seen with distrust by the Crewmates. E.T also distrusts him, but for somewhat different reasons; Edgar's an alien hiding from the government, but in contrast to E.T he's a lot more hostile.
* There's some similarity to his disguise with [[Series/DoctorWho the Slitheen's skin suit]]. When Edgar learned about them, he decided he should try to go "for a vacation" on Raxacoricofallapatorius, since they had better suit disguise tech, but first he needed to take a snack. Said snack was Dib, who amusingly enough was fooled by his disguise[[note]]in fairness since his new disguise is artificial skin, it doesn't have the decay problem[[/note]] just long enough for the bug to get his hands on him. Fortunately the Doctor was present at the time and stopped him. Zim had a laugh at the whole thing but made it clear that Earth was his and [[TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou he's only one allowed to defeat Dib]]. His posturing ego initially put Edgar off, but he tolerates and will occasionally try to work with him against a shared foe as they're mean insectoids with an attitude and many enemies. Though maybe he just want to get close to Irken technology, he also agrees on how he dislikes humans.
* Edgar has a general empathy for what humans would call bugs. He lets regular cockroaches hitch a ride on his body [[BerserkButton and loses his temper if someone squashes a bug]]. Because of this, he's remarkably civil in the Halls of Arthropods and Insects, [[AffablyEvil and is genuinely friendly at the inhabitants]]. He only makes a couple of exceptions in Lolth and the Radiance, as [[CompleteMonster they're so depraved]] [[EvenEvilHasStandards he can't stomach them]]. Plus the Radiance has the power to control other bugs. Asides from the Terraformas, though, no-one there really shares his goals and he tends to get attention from the space cops. While usually peaceful there, there was a "bar fight" when, while enjoying a nice pitcher of sugar water, Swarm's bees started drinking it. Edgar doesn't like Fritz Von Meyer much, not so much that [[ThoseWackyNazis he's a Nazi]] ([[InformedAttribute it's not like he's espoused those beliefs that much]]) but because he dislikes seeing an undead human command bees.
* One of his friends is Arachne, God-Mother of SpiderPeople. Unlike the sociopathic Lolth she actually cares deeply for her brood, and he warmed himself up to her after thrashing around Billy for his abuse of spiders. Despite all of his crimes [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes Edgar has clear love for his kind]] and was appalled Billy would try to squish his own spider-son [[FriendlyNeighborhoodSpider who has been nothing but compassionate]] just because he has arachnophobia. He tried scooping his brains like ice cream [[YourBrainWontBeMuchOfAMeal but a hollow knock was all he got from his head]]. While more frog-like in his true form, and thus someone he's mildly prejudiced towards, Edgar likes Albedo somewhat due to his disgust for the human form he found himself stuck with. Due to hating humans more and his own inferiority complex he's somewhat sympathetic towards the Galvan. Albedo sees him more as a convenient ally to steal stuff for his experiments, but they'll still act relatively civil towards one another.
* You can often see him conversing and planning with the Terraformas, fellow roaches with a nasty attitude who look down on vertebrates. [[FantasticRacism Edgar's dislike of mammals]] might be partly down to [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex how arthropods are looked down on]]. While "space cops" are enemies of his pretty much by default, he is particularly contemptuous to governments that look down on his kind. The Imperium of Mankind is notoriously xenophobic, and see him as a disgusting Xenos criminal...I mean he is a criminal, but still. The Galactic Empire isn't as xenophobic, but they still don't like non-humans. Edgar cites their genocide of the Genosians as a reason to hate the empire, [[VillainHasAPoint and in fairness he's not wrong]], [[EvilVersusEvil nor is he that the Empire is an unpleasant institution]]. However he's seen as a rather minor threat by both governments, all things considered, which only made him angrier because he was being looked down upon. Less understandably, he's gotten hostile with Hank Pym and Shino Aburame as he doesn't like how they're humans that order around bugs, however he almost always pulls his punches so as to not harm the bugs they command. He somehow rationalizes this as "a dirty move" and uses this InsaneTrollLogic to fortify his own FantasticRacism.
* Though he doesn't like humans, he does make an exception for a few. As he's a criminal and a murderer who's actions endangered the Earth he's no friend of Agitha or James Henry Trotter, however he thinks [[YouAreACreditToYourRace "they're some of the good ones"]] due to their friendship and kinship with bugs. Mr Burns' curious fondness for bugs, with him being a beekeeper, got Edgar's attention. As an amoral billionaire he wasn't put off by Edgar being a 12 foot criminal cockroach and said that he would let him work at the Springfield Nuclear Power Plant so he can make money to keep up the disguise. The bug decided "eh, why not?" and decided he could do with hiding in the plant when the cops come, as [[Pantheon/{{Officers}} Springfield's elite]] are incompetent and Mr Burns usually has a bribe ready. Edgar has gotten some "side-jobs" from Nute Gunray (via Poggle the Lesser's recommendations) and Jabba the Hutt, where he uses his criminal skills to do dirty work for them.
* He's made a few new attempts to steal artifacts of immense power. First off, he swindled [[Pantheon/ArtifactsLibrary the Universal Remote]], initially believing its powers were exaggerated because if not why wasn't in Pantheon/MaximumSecurity (which he tried and predictably failed to break into). Having heard of some of the risks, until Team Lightyear could surprise and catch him he used it mainly to pause time whenever the Men in Black were in his sight so he could make a getaway. His next caper was trying to sneak into the Spore Player Character's ship to steal it for himself and be able to use all the ship's incredible abilities for himself, but he got kicked out while trying to figure out the controls. Finally he went to Planet Express to steal one of [[Pantheon/SpeechAToM the Professor's]] doomsday devices. This...[[TheBadGuyWins actually worked]], albeit the main reason Farnsworth's lax attitude to said devices. That being said he didn't have much bad to say about [[Pantheon/{{Phrases}} Zoidberg]], [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex as on some level]] he can sympathize a bit with the ButtMonkey status of a fellow arthropod.

[[folder:Suguru Kamoshida]]
'''[[VideoGame/Persona5 Suguru Kamoshida]], God of {{Creepy Gym Coach}}es''' (Bastard King of Lust, Jersey-wearing Teacher, Mr Kamoshida)
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* Note: Adopted from Tropers/Iceaura39
* Hall: Teachers (House of School)
* Quasideity
* Symbol: His Olympic gold medal
* Theme Song: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvMKQzL4tPg King, Queen and Slave]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItxWMuW3jQg Blooming Villain]]
* Alignment: NeutralEvil (forced to be TrueNeutral [[ForcedToFeelEmpathy when his heart]] [[HeelFaceBrainwashing was stolen]])
* Portfolio: [[HateSink A Truly Despicable]] StarterVillain, DirtyOldMan representing {{Lust}}, [[CreepyGymCoach A Perverted, Lustful Gym Teacher]] [[SexualExtortion Who Uses His Position To Extort Sex]], SmallRoleBigImpact, {{Narcissist}} and TheSociopath, [[SadistTeacher A Cruel And]] [[EvilTeacher Outright Malicious Teacher]], [[DumbJock The Grown Up Version Of The Big Dumb Jock]], JerkassAtYourDiscretion, JadedWashout, GymClassHell, HairTriggerTemper, GloryHound, [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil Raped Ann Shiho]] ([[SerialRapist implied to not be a one-off]]), [[RealismInducedHorror Stands Out As A Realistically]] [[CompleteMonster Monstrous Individual]]...[[HeelFaceBrainwashing Until He Is]] ForcedToFeelEmpathy
* Domains: Lust, Rape, Creeps, Abuse, Cruelty, Sports, Ego
* Interested in: [[Pantheon/MindControl Jervis Tetch/the Mad Hatter]]
* Allies: '''[[Pantheon/CharacterChanges Doctor Arthur Light]], [[Pantheon/{{Voices}} Zebediah Killgrave]]''', ''[[Pantheon/CheatsAndGlitches Nobuyuki Sugou]]'', [[Pantheon/{{Toxicity}} Ethan Roark Junior]] [[Pantheon/{{Politicians}} and Senior]], [[Pantheon/DreadAndValor Freddy Krueger]], [[Pantheon/TypesOfNarration Humbert Humbert]], [[Pantheon/VillainousReputation Dolores Umbridge]]
* Drinking buddies with: [[Pantheon/TaintedLove Judge Claude Frollo]], [[Pantheon/PersonsOfDesire Glenn Quagmire]]
* TeethClenchedTeamwork with: [[Pantheon/{{Teachers}} Agitha Trunchbull]]
* Enemies: '''[[Pantheon/{{Thieves}} The Phantom Thieves of Heart]]''' (with Ann Takamaki as his ArchEnemy), ''[[Pantheon/AlignmentChanges Iroque/Indigo-1]], [[Pantheon/{{Memes}} Doge, Cheems and Walter]], [[Pantheon/SocialAndRecreationalWork Uncle Howee]], [[Pantheon/JusticeBringers Chris Hansen]], [[Pantheon/{{School}} The Headmasters and Student Representatives]], [[Pantheon/PhysicalSports Peter LaFleur and White Goodman]], really any member of his own House not under allies
* Opposed by: '''[[Pantheon/{{Personality}} Bojack Horseman]]''', [[Pantheon/{{Subjects}} Denzel Crocker]]
* Barred entry from: The House of Pantheon/{{Sports}}
* Suguru Kamoshida was a former professional athlete and Olympic volleyball champion who would find himself as the PE teacher of Shujin Academy. A lustful man defended from consequences due to his reputation and corruption by the principal, he has sexually harassed the female students on the volleyball team and is forcing Ann Takamaki to go out with him to keep Shiho on the team. He's not much better to the male students, putting them through hell with spiked volleyballs and other brutal "teaching methods". When he assaulted Shiho to get back at being rejected by Ann, his crimes would make him their first major target [[HeelFaceBrainwashing to have their heart change]]. After defeating his Shadow, representing the sin of Lust, his ego was broken and he was submitted to arrest and therapy for his narcissism. Despite being a StarterVillain, Kamoshida sets the standard for how dark the villains of ''VideoGame/Persona5'' are going to get, and he stands out being [[CompleteMonster shockingly depraved]] [[RealismInducedHorror despite his relatively down to earth villainy]].
* Kamoshida's ascension was not expected to happen. After all, he had been ForcedToFeelEmpathy, so who in the right mind [[HappyEndingOverride would deny the Phantom Thieves a hard-earned victory?]] Well, it was obviously going to be someone in the ''wrong'' mind. [[Pantheon/{{Villainy}} Melkor]] has long since seen their ability to steal people's Heart as one of the more insidious strategies on the side of [[Pantheon/GrandUnitedAllianceOfGood Good]], and a couple of [[Pantheon/GrandUnitedAllianceOfEvil Evil's followers]] wanted to "get even". Dr Light[[note]]the supervillain one, mind you[[/note]] and the Purple Man basically smuggled the disgraced PE teacher into the Trope Pantheon, and worked to reverse the change. The key word to restoring his personality was the Purple Man saying "be true to yourself". His first reaction upon being "restored to factory settings" was ''white-hot rage'' and humiliation about being subjected to what he considers a FateWorseThanDeath. He immediately grabbed a nearby gun with murder on his eyes, only to scream in pain that he was feeling bad for past actions. As it turns out the anti-brainwashing wasn't complete; whenever he attempts to do something even more evil than normal like try to murder the Phantom Thieves or fantasize about ColdBloodedTorture, the forced empathy briefly re-asserts itself like a MoralityChain. For now, Kamoshida has decided to just get used to his surroundings and enjoy that he is mostly "cured" of what they did to him.
* He manages to earn the personal ire of all four of the founding Thieves: he lusts after Ann and drove her friend to attempt suicide, broke Ryuji's leg back when he was a track star, told everyone to spread rumors about the Protagonist both because he stood up to him and because he wanted to, and his Shadow would have executed Morgana had the Protagonist and Ryuji not intervened. A PsychopathicManchild of an athlete, [[EntitledBastard he thinks his past success makes him entitled to whatever he wants]] and despise the Phantom Thieves more than anything [[HeelFaceBrainwashing for having destroyed that sense of entitlement]]. Suguru Kamoshida despises brainwashers even if they have the best of intentions in doing so, though admittedly most are pretty bad people themselves. [[ItsAllAboutMe Personal insults are more why he hates those people than anything else]], which is why he makes the exception for Killgrave; [[PowerPerversionPotential he wants his abilities for the]] [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil worst kind of reasons]]. He also attempted to reach out to Jervish Tetch, trying to relate his obsession with Ann to his obsession with Alice. While the Mad Hatter is undoubtedly creepy, Tetch [[ComicBook/ArkhamAsylumASeriousHouseOnSeriousEarth usually]] isn't a pedophile and it's more about wanting to live out the character role of the Mad Hatter.
* It didn't take long for him to barred entry from the House of Sports, on account for his [[TrainingFromHell sadistic training methods towards male students]] and being a sex offender. Any attempt to change his trope to "God of Volleyball" was met with scorn, and one of the only times [=LaFleur=] and Goodman [[EnemyMine will team up]] is to give Suguru Kamoshida a taste of his own medicine with dodgeball. The only reason he is not banned from the House of School as well is by virtue of [[CreepyGymCoach his trope]]. With his true nature known, [[HatedByAll he is the most despised member of the house]]. Yes, [[Pantheon/SchoolTypes the Death Busters]] are enemies of most of the Trope Pantheon [[OmnicidalManiac because of their goal]], but they still don't bring out the disgust that Suguru Kamoshida does. Far as [[Pantheon/SchoolTypes Mao]] is concerned, [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters he is worse than any demon]]. The only member of the Hall of Pantheon/{{Students}} that even tolerates him is Biff Tannen, what with him being TheBully and an [[AttemptedRape attempted rapist]]. Even then the OlderAndWiser 2015 Biff bemoans him as StupidEvil.
* He's a pariah in the Hall of Pantheon/{{Teachers}} and considered one of the worst teachers ever., [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even Denzel Crocker wants nothing to do with him]]. Izumi Curtis calls out his "tough love" as an excuse to indulge in his sadism, and as someone with [[SinkOrSwimMentor a tough but productive training regiment]] she can tell the difference. Eikichi Onizuka may be somewhat of a pervert [[EveryoneHasStandards but he'd never think to try and get fresh with the female students]] and has organized a brutal hazing ritual for his arrival. One of his only allies there is the Trunchbull, and even then, she only tolerates him as a means of enforcing control over the students [[SadistTeacher through fear]]. For all her faults, she's not a sexual predator. Umbridge agrees with that kind of method, though she has even less standards and is a straight up ally of Kamoshida. As Suguru Kamoshida used to be a follower of Agitha Trunchbull, he's annoyed that she's deciding to have standards now, as he hoped she would be his confidant in their house.
* Freddy Krueger [[Film/ANightmareOnElmStreetPart2FreddysRevenge mused that he once killed]] a CreepyGymCoach, one Mr Schneider. This is notable in being one of the only victims of his [[AssholeVictim that probably had it coming]]. Kamoshida doesn't have to worry about him passing judgement, though; Krueger is a child killer and implied (or explicit in the remakes) pedophile who used to work as a groundskeeper at a school. He gets along amicably with Kamoshida, as his own gimmick is using mental worlds to inflict suffering on his victims. Suguru Kamoshida dreams of one day having similar powers to get his revenge, though he can't focus on said revenge until he learns to quiet the BrainwashResidue that "speaks up" when he's feeling particularly violent. Given his trope, Suguru Kamoshida would get a surprise visit from Doge and the gang. They have their own [[CreepyGymCoach "Coach Henry"]], though he usually benefits from being TheComicallySerious and a DevilInPlainSight because of the comedic nature of the ''Webcomic/{{Dogelore}}'' comics. Kamoshida didn't have the shield of being seen as "ironically wholesome", what with being a disturbingly realistic predator, [[PayEvilUntoEvil so Cheems gave him a very much karmic and brutal bonking session]].
* Suguru Kamoshida was fairly popular with female students who haven't heard or don't believe the rumors about him. While he was capable of having more ethical hook-ups and relationships, like Glenn Quagmire, he's also a malignant narcissist and DirtyOldMan [[{{Ephebophile}} interested in teenagers]]. Comparisons could be made with him and Glenn Quagmire, with many noting the only reason Quagmire isn't seen as depraved as Kamoshida is because [[BlackComedyRape of tonal reasons]], and to Quagmire's credit [[AffablyEvil he tends to legitimately get along to people when not in pervert mode]]. The two are drinking buddies, though not friends since Quagmire would rather not get more negative attention by association and [[EvenEvilHasStandards he does have]] [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes some redeeming qualities]], something you can't say about [[HateSink Kamoshida]]. Another drinking buddy of the disgraced athlete is Frollo, who has his own obsession with his LustObject, but his entitlement is more of the [[KnightTemplar self-righteous]] kind compared to the Bastard King of Lust. His Shadow's association with {{Asmodeus}} and the aforementioned self-righteousness prevents them from being anything more than drinking buddies.
* [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil Because of the reputation of sex offenders, he's a rather unpopular deity]]. There are plenty of other reasons not to like him, but that's usually what's brought up. His very small friend group is mostly other sex offenders and outright rapists. After all, that's why the ones to "save" him were Arthur Light and Zebediah Killgrave; [[SerialRapist they have the same criminal lusts/desire to assert themselves]], which has made them pariahs [[EvenEvilHasStandards even amongst the supervillain community]]. Outside of those two, his closest friend is probably Nobuyuki Sugou, a depraved and lustful worm of a man who's position has made him an entitled SpoiledBrat like Kamoshida. The two often go to cocktail parties with the Yellow Bastard, who's daddy basically gives them asylum for their "habits". Ethan Roark Junior is so awful that Suguru Kamoshida can seen ''almost'' quaint by comparison, however [[RealismInducedHorror the latter is seen as the more realistic villain]]. Their meet ups are down to "safety in numbers" more than anything.
* Kamoshida is trying to restore his reputation by taking advice from the pedophile Humbert Humbert, who [[PsychologicalProjection projects him]] as "misunderstood", by making an autobiography where he tries to hide behind trying to cling onto whatever glory he has left and uses victim blaming, saying that they secretly wanted it. It's worth noting that he used to legitimately have a conscience at some point; he'd got fresh with a female reporter while drunk, and actually tried to beg for forgiveness and turn himself into the police. One of his corporate sponsors, however, helped cover it up and assured Kamoshida all was forgiven. So the "moral" of his ego-stroking autobiography SocietyIsToBlame [[NeverMyFault so he should be absolved]]. Bojack Horseman wrote a scathing review of this book [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse as a pathetic attempt to rationalize his actions on his path]], which the sex offender thought was hypocritical. [[HypocrisyNod Bojack is well aware he doesn't have a moral high-ground]], but [[HeelRealization he's come to realize]] being a JadedWashout is not an excuse for his own toxic behavior, and he has been trying to work on improving himself. He sees Suguru Kamoshida [[ShadowArchetype as what he could've become had he lacked a desire to improve himself]].

** '''[[Literature/TheShadowOutOfTime the Great Race of Yith]], Divine Race of MentalSpaceTravel'''
** '''[[Literature/HerbertWestReanimator Herbert West]], God of [[MadScientistLaboratory Mad Scientist Laboratories]]''': Adopted from Tropers/PhantomFire

* New ideas (main focus)-20/20. Feel free to PM and adopt if you want to.

** '''[[Franchise/{{Superman}} Pieces Of Kryptonite]]''': a restoration for the Great Treasury. One of the most iconic weaknesses in superhero comics is kryptonite. A radioactive piece of the exploded planet Krypton, it is radioactive and Kryptonian life is particularly susceptible to it, being akin to poisoning. Green Kryptonite is the original and pure stuff, but there are variants which have different effects. Sometimes it only affects Kryptonian life, but sometimes it has a more subtle effect like the time Lex Luthor got cancer using a kryptonite ring
** I would like to make a partial restoration, partial rework in adding [[Franchise/GreenLantern the Lantern Rings]] to the Great Treasury. One of the most iconic weapons in the DC universe, and also a major feature of the Green Lantern mythos is the titular lantern ring. Using will for green, or other emotions for other rings, you can create HardLight constructs and use your imagination in a powerful way. Should it be the rainbow seven, should it include the White and Black Lantern rings (despite the security risk the latter has)? The idea is that they would function as a way to deputize people in the Trope Pantheon%%Proposed 2/3

** '''[[WesternAnimation/SouthPark Stephen and Linda Stotch]], God and Goddess of [[YouAreGrounded Grounding]]''': Butters' abusive parents Stephen and Linda are very well-known for using grounding on Butters as a punishment. It's practically a catch phrase. Usually [[DisproportionateRetribution it's something minor]] or a misunderstanding, but in more recent episodes they have more of a legitimate case like using Facebook to spread misinformation. A video game reveals Stephen obsessively grounds Butters [[FreudianExcuse because his mother did so to him]]
** '''[[Series/Loki2021 Loki Odinson (Variant L1130) and Sylvie Laufeydottir]], God and Goddess Of [[AlternateSelfShipping Being Shipped With Your Counterpart]]''' (Hall of Clones and Counterparts)-two of the main leads of the Loki series. Sylvia is a genderswapped version of Loki, and the Loki in this series is a variant from the timeline created when the Avengers went back in 2012 to get the Space Stone. Fans frequently shipped them together, which is only helped by the fact there is some serious ScrewYourself subtext. [[spoiler:It ends up becoming somewhat canon]]
** I am thinking of giving [[ComicBook/{{Miracleman}} Johnny Bates/Kid Miracleman]] HelplessGoodSide, but I do not know how I should word it. A DeconstructedCharacterArchetype of the KidSidekick, Johnny is normally a sweet kid but his SuperpoweredEvilSide is a complete psycho. Bates is timid and horrified by this other persona, but he's also still a child due to Kid Miracleman having remained in superpower form since the early 60s, forcing Bates' body to remain in stasis for most of it with his mind helplessly trapped in Kid Miracleman's. He's bullied by his alter and forced to use summon him to avoid being assaulted. It's clear the only solution Miracleman has is to ShootTheDog the poor kid

* Votes: 2 (Tropers/{{rmpdc}}, Tropers/{{wootzits}})

** '''[[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY Aegislash]], God of [[DefendCommand Defend Commands]]''': Old draft here: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13955282570A87068500&page=358 Aegislash]]
** '''[[VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon Komala]], God of [[LaidBackKoala Laid-Back Koalas]]''' (Hall of Mammals, TrueNeutral)

** '''[[Franchise/{{Superman}} Pieces Of Kryptonite]]''': a restoration for the Great Treasury. One of the most iconic weaknesses in superhero comics is kryptonite. A radioactive piece of the exploded planet Krypton, it is radioactive and Kryptonian life is particularly susceptible to it, being akin to poisoning. Green Kryptonite is the original and pure stuff, but there are variants which have different effects. Sometimes it only affects Kryptonian life, but sometimes it has a more subtle effect like the time Lex Luthor got cancer using a kryptonite ring

* Votes: 3(Tropers/{{Excessive-Menace}}, Tropers/{{Rmpdc}}, Tropers/{{neoman}})

* Votes: 3(Tropers/{{Excessive-Menace}}, Tropers/{{Rmpdc}}, Tropers/{{neoman}})

%%If I haven't mentioned your prior suggestions it's because I couldn't think of a meaningful interaction

** The Millennium Puzzle and Ring are unique since, as already mentioned, they contain the spirits of people. The Puzzle is notoriously hard to solve in large part due to Yami Yugi's influence and has a more general purpose of enhancing skill, accessing and protecting from magic. The Ring can find what the wielder is looking for like a compass, but benefits are outweighed by the malignant evil in the item. [[Anime/YuGiOhTheDarkSideOfDimensions Even without Zorc or the Thief King, it's still corruptive]]. Voldemort was fascinated by these items since they work as a sort of [[SoulJar Horcrux variant]], though the abilities and how they function as "horcruxes" is somewhat different. He doesn't intend to steal them because he can't make a horcrux over something already "occupied" like they are, but it has inspired him to try and steal the other Millennium Items and make ''them'' horcruxes. Zorc is intrigued by this since it could allow him to influence Voldemort, but he and by extension Yami Bakura refuse to let him co-opt the artifacts.
** The Millennium Eye lets you read people's minds. Admittedly useless for telepaths like [[Pantheon/SpiritualAndMentalPowers the Martian Manhunter]] unless you want to play a Shadow Game, but pretty useful for anyone ''wanting'' telepathy. It's only got two downsides. One, if someone can pull a MemoryGambit like flipping between different personalities they can cheat the system. Two, [[EyeScream it requires an empty eye socket]]. This wasn't a problem for Bender that time he managed to steal the Eye, calling Pegasus "a lightweight meatbag" as he could just unscrew one of his eyes and plug the artifact in. He freaked out a bit when [[Recap/FuturamaS1E10AFlightToRemember he saw the spirit of the Countess de la Roca]], much as how Pegasus saw a vision of his lost love, but got over it. Bender almost won a big poker game until he went up against Fry, who's mind still couldn't be read even with a magic artifact. The Eye was later recovered from a nearby trash can and returned to the museum.

** I would like to make a partial restoration, partial rework in adding [[Franchise/GreenLantern the Lantern Rings]] to the Great Treasury. One of the most iconic weapons in the DC universe, and also a major feature of the Green Lantern mythos is the titular lantern ring. Using will for green, or other emotions for other rings, you can create HardLight constructs and use your imagination in a powerful way. Should it be the rainbow seven, should it include the White and Black Lantern rings (despite the security risk the latter has)? The idea is that they would function as a way to deputize people in the Trope Pantheon%%Proposed 1/3

* [[HeadbuttingHeroes Headbutting Villains]] with: Many ascended Nazis ''especially'' [[Pantheon/MotivationsForEvil Johann Schmidt/Red Skull]]. Of note; [[Pantheon/ConquestAndConquerors Wilhelm "Deathshead" Strasse]], [[Pantheon/RoyalPersonalities Rudolf Ulbricht von Sturmgeist]], [[Pantheon/{{Duels}} Major Erwin Konig]]

* While he is seem with skepticism by many Nazi deities, along with those tied to and working with the Nazis, there are some that get along with him swimmingly and overlook his {{Turncoat}} actions. Franz Vahlen has his own ambitions independent of Rommel and Hitler, and he plans to become Fuhrer himself. As a general he can give aid to Hans in areas he's lacking. General Heinz Bohm is a cunning [[TheMole mole]] who met with the two over some strudel, pointing out he is well-aware the pantheon's Nazi elite has their own internal power plays and schemes for and against one another, so the fact they're able to be friendly with one another will likely be a boon. They've met privately to discuss assassination plans on some of their own allies in case they prove to be a "liability", the details of which are a tight-knit secret but nothing out of the ordinary for the Nazis more skeptical of Hans. For now, at worst Hans Landa is a reliable traitor.

* Approved ideas (13/20). Feel free to PM and adopt if you're interested. Same with below

* New ideas (main focus)-19/20. Feel free to PM and adopt if you want to.
** '''[[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheDialOfDestiny Jurgen Voller]], God of [[HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct Trying (And Failing) To Remove Hitler Via Time Travel]]''' (Hall of Time Travelling, NeutralEvil)-the BigBad of Dial of Destiny is Jurgen Voller, seeking the Antitkythera mechanism to go back in time and take out Hitler right before [=WW2=]. He's a unique example of this trope in that he's a ''Nazi'' trying to pull this off; he believes in their vision but thinks that the Fuhrer specifically was to blame for Germany losing the war, so he wants to make sure they start the war with a more effective leader ([[ItsAllAboutMe three guesses on who he has in mind]]). True to the trope, though, his efforts are AllForNothing; the mechanism only sends you back to the Battle of Syracuse as part of Archimedes' attempt to stop the Romans. And the whole thing was a StableTimeLoop, furthering the fact his efforts were in vain.%%Proposed 1/3

** '''[[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheDialOfDestiny Jurgen Voller]], God of [[HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct Trying (And Failing) To Remove Hitler Via Time Travel]]''' (Hall of Time Travelling, NeutralEvil)-the BigBad of Dial of Destiny is Jurgen Voller, seeking the Antitkythera mechanism to go back in time and take out Hitler right before [=WW2=]. He's a unique example of this trope in that he's a ''Nazi'' trying to pull this off; he believes in their vision but thinks that the Fuhrer specifically was to blame for Germany losing the war, so he wants to make sure they start the war with a more effective leader ([[ItsAllAboutMe three guesses on who he has in mind]]). True to the trope, though, his efforts are AllForNothing; the mechanism only sends you back to the Battle of Syracuse as part of Archimedes' attempt to stop the Romans. And the whole thing was a StableTimeLoop, furthering the fact his efforts were in vain.