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[[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/even-further-beyond.45951/ Even Further Beyond]] is a quest written by Rihaku on the Sufficient Velocity forums.

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[[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/even-further-beyond.45951/ Even Further Beyond]] is a quest written by Rihaku on the Sufficient Velocity forums.
Website/SufficientVelocityDotCom.
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* WhatIsEvil: Kong Zang definitely is. Or is he? One of the Empire's founders and inventor of Scientific Cultivation, he doesn't mind [[AMillionIsAStatistic billions of people dying]] if it helps him progress towards higher cultivation stages, so one would think he qualifies as capital Evil. [[spoiler: Except we [[HiddenVillain later]] find out that he contains infinite universes inside himself, with a population that greatly exceeds that of the outside world, so according to him ''To incur my slightest displeasure is to reduce the happiness within Existence by an incalculable amount. [...] An elegant way to resolve the otherwise-natural tension between morality and selfishness, no?'' He admits that he doesn't pretend to morals immediately afterwards, of course. GrewBeyondTheirProgramming can be said to apply to him, as he exploited Cultivation to break the system far beyond what the Fates had anticipated and is their main target. [[AGodAmI Fun guy]]. One of the few reasons the players would consider [[TeethClenchedTeamwork temporarily allying]] with the Heroine, though siding with him is equally possible.]]

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* WhatIsEvil: Kong Zang definitely is. Or is he? One of the Empire's founders and inventor of Scientific Cultivation, he doesn't mind [[AMillionIsAStatistic billions of people dying]] if it helps him progress towards higher cultivation stages, so one would think he qualifies as capital Evil. [[spoiler: Except we [[HiddenVillain later]] find out that he contains infinite universes inside himself, with a population that greatly exceeds that of the outside world, so according to him ''To incur my slightest displeasure is to reduce the happiness within Existence by an incalculable amount. [...] An elegant way to resolve the otherwise-natural tension between morality and selfishness, no?'' He admits that he doesn't pretend to morals immediately afterwards, of course. GrewBeyondTheirProgramming can be said to apply to him, as he exploited Cultivation to break the system far beyond what the Fates had anticipated and is their main target. [[AGodAmI Fun guy]]. One of the few reasons the players would consider [[TeethClenchedTeamwork temporarily allying]] with the Heroine, though siding with him is equally possible.]]
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* LoweredMonsterDifficulty: We start with a weaker version of the Heroine's luck[[spoiler:, which progresses towards ContractualBossImmunity when we encounter the TrueFinalBoss]]

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* PlotArmor: Possessed of StoryDrivenInvulnerability, if the Heroine is "completely obliterated, soul trapped and devoured by ancient lich, wiped from time stream, destiny defiled, killed from and through higher dimensions", she might not even come back from one of those!
* ImpossibleTask: Or so we're told. Given that this game has played out thousands of times before, our chances don't look good. But who knows? Maybe this time will be different...



* SuperpowerLottery: ''If the three schools of magic could ever be mastered by a single entity, their powers would not combine linearly. Interactions would be discovered that compound one upon the other''. We won that one. Or rather, we paid very handsomely for the chance to use all magic systems simultaneously, a supposedly unprecedented ability.
* PersonOfMassDestruction: Cultivators of higher stages have to be ''really'' careful about the collateral damage, or they risk having to redraw the maps afterwards. The Titans? Their fights can quite literally shatter continents.
* PrincelyYoungMan: We're a smug young master, [[SpoiledBrat spoiled]] and proud of it. Except when it interferes with our training, but what can you do?
* TakeOverTheWorld: One of the MC's humble ambitions.

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* SuperpowerLottery: ''If the three schools of magic could ever be mastered by a single entity, their powers would not combine linearly. Interactions would be discovered ImpossibleTask: Or so we're told. Given that compound one upon the other''. We won that one. Or rather, we paid very handsomely for the chance to use all magic systems simultaneously, a supposedly unprecedented ability.
* PersonOfMassDestruction: Cultivators
this game has played out thousands of higher stages have to be ''really'' careful about the collateral damage, or they risk having to redraw the maps afterwards. The Titans? Their fights can quite literally shatter continents.
* PrincelyYoungMan: We're a smug young master, [[SpoiledBrat spoiled]] and proud of it. Except when it interferes with
times before, our training, but what can you do?
* TakeOverTheWorld: One of the MC's humble ambitions.
chances don't look good. But who knows? Maybe this time will be different...



* RealityWarper: At lower levels Cultivators are little more than filthy muscle wizards, but as they grow and delve into their SupernaturalMartialArts, they acquire PersonalityPowers and EnlightenmentSuperpowers, learning how to force their personal beliefs onto reality.
* {{Reincarnation}}: Both the Heroine and the MC.


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* PersonOfMassDestruction: Cultivators of higher stages have to be ''really'' careful about the collateral damage, or they risk having to redraw the maps afterwards. The Titans? Their fights can quite literally shatter continents.
* PrincelyYoungMan: We're a smug young master, [[SpoiledBrat spoiled]] and proud of it. Except when it interferes with our training, but what can you do?
* PlotArmor: Possessed of StoryDrivenInvulnerability, if the Heroine is "completely obliterated, soul trapped and devoured by ancient lich, wiped from time stream, destiny defiled, killed from and through higher dimensions", she might not even come back from one of those!
* RealityWarper: At lower levels Cultivators are little more than filthy muscle wizards, but as they grow and delve into their SupernaturalMartialArts, they acquire PersonalityPowers and EnlightenmentSuperpowers, learning how to force their personal beliefs onto reality.
* {{Reincarnation}}: Both the Heroine and the MC.
* SuperpowerLottery: ''If the three schools of magic could ever be mastered by a single entity, their powers would not combine linearly. Interactions would be discovered that compound one upon the other''. We won that one. Or rather, we paid very handsomely for the chance to use all magic systems simultaneously, a supposedly unprecedented ability.
* TakeOverTheWorld: One of the MC's humble ambitions.

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* AchillesHeel: What do you mean making an ArtifactOfDoom is a bad idea? A phylactery need to be suitably cool, you know? It holds Nameless' magnificent soul, after all.
* AlwaysLawfulGood: The elves, one of the few factions not composed of jerkasses, though it is often remarked that they're TooDumbToLive.
* BadassFamily: When your dad is a MagnificentBastard, your mom was the best assassin of the White Orchid Sisterhood that he [[InLoveWithTheMark turned]] into his waifu after she was sent to kill him, and your grandfather isn't just a CoolOldGuy, but one of the four strongest people in the world...
* BeyondTheImpossible: One of the quest's themes, the real path to power isn't training hard, it's learning how to cheat harder.
* BloodMagic: One of the Signs involves sacrificing large quantities of blood, be it one's own or someone else's. Of course Nameless doesn't forget to [[ExploitedImmunity cheat]] with his undying biology.
* CataclysmBackstory: Thousands of Ages precede the current one, and the Fates seem to enjoy making their [[EndOfAnAge end]] suitably dramatic. [[spoiler: We later learn that the bulk of their power is available to them at the opening and closing of Ages, so perhaps there is more to this than pure sadism...]]



* TheNameless: And we sold our name too, because there is never enough power. What's the use of a name, anyway? Even if the Divinities attach great importance to having one and lacking it makes it easier for the Heroine to [[{{Dehumanization}} dehumanize]] us, that's hardly going to be a problem when we're trying to kill each other.

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* TheNameless: ChickMagnet: Nameless can't help it that he's so handsome and charming. And we sold our name too, because there is never enough power. What's any rumors of [[LoveTriangle love triangles]] are greatly exaggerated, I'm telling you!
* DoesNotLikeMagic: The Heroine's divine brother calls it out as weeb shit. Shows what he knows!
* DomainHolder: Naturalism, a less explored part of elven magic, it theoretically allows one to set up rules in an area that belongs to
the use of caster and is mainly used for defensive purposes.
* TheDragon: Our Lieutenant,
a name, anyway? Even if one-in-a-million genius that we've stumbled upon on the Divinities attach great importance to having one road. An [[{{Revenge}} Avenger]] and lacking it makes it easier for believer in Truth, Justice and the Heroine to [[{{Dehumanization}} dehumanize]] us, that's hardly going Imperial Way... before she met Nameless. [[spoiler: Turns out to be one of the Heroines afterwards, with her target being the strongest Titan, Zang Kong himself.]]
* FunctionalMagic and FormulaicMagic: The Diagram,
a problem fairly structured and versatile type of magic that is somewhat reminiscent of D&D wizards, only turned up to 11. It still can't keep up with Cultivation when we're trying it comes to kill each other.power, sadly, and the remaining liches are reduced to being little more than [[YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters terrorists]] surviving at the edges of civilization.



* GodInHumanForm: One of the Divinities incarnated as [[TheHero The Heroine]], thankfully [[DePower without]] her divine powers, for what it's worth.



* GentlemanAndAScholar: Literally one of Kong Zang's titles.
* GreenThumb: Both Diagram and Naturalism are good at this, though we've only really practiced the former.
* GodsHandsAreTied: The gods appear to be restricted in their actions to a great extent, though nothing prevents them from making things as annoying as possible within the rules if we don't play nice.
* GodInHumanForm: One of the Divinities incarnated as [[TheHero The Heroine]], thankfully [[DePower without]] her divine powers, for what it's worth.
* ItemCrafting: The Artifice part of Elven magic, it requires one to CastFromExperiencePoints, CastFromLifespan, and CastFromSanity. Small price, really.
* SuperpowerLottery: ''If the three schools of magic could ever be mastered by a single entity, their powers would not combine linearly. Interactions would be discovered that compound one upon the other''. We won that one. Or rather, we paid very handsomely for the chance to use all magic systems simultaneously, a supposedly unprecedented ability.
* PersonOfMassDestruction: Cultivators of higher stages have to be ''really'' careful about the collateral damage, or they risk having to redraw the maps afterwards. The Titans? Their fights can quite literally shatter continents.
* PrincelyYoungMan: We're a smug young master, [[SpoiledBrat spoiled]] and proud of it. Except when it interferes with our training, but what can you do?
* TakeOverTheWorld: One of the MC's humble ambitions.
* LoweredMonsterDifficulty: We start with a weaker version of the Heroine's luck[[spoiler:, which progresses towards ContractualBossImmunity when we encounter the TrueFinalBoss]]
* RealityWarper: At lower levels Cultivators are little more than filthy muscle wizards, but as they grow and delve into their SupernaturalMartialArts, they acquire PersonalityPowers and EnlightenmentSuperpowers, learning how to force their personal beliefs onto reality.



* MagicalEye: The Eyes of Kong are a bloodline engineered by Kong and possessed by our Lieutenant, Suizhen. [[spoiler: She later becomes so loyal that she changes her Eyes to fit our needs and gives us an eye transplant. Which was what led to our first meeting with Zang Kong...]]



* GodsHandsAreTied: The gods appear to be restricted in their actions to a great extent, though nothing prevents them from making things as annoying as possible within the rules if we don't play nice.
* DoesNotLikeMagic: The Heroine's divine brother calls it out as weeb shit. Shows what he knows!

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* GodsHandsAreTied: MagicIsMental: The gods appear Diagram is less resource-intensive than other kinds of magic, but spells need to be restricted in their actions researched and it requires a high degree of intelligence to a great extent, though be successful at.
* MeditationPowerup: Cultivation is hard and often requires hundreds of years to get to the higher stages, to speak
nothing prevents them from making things as annoying as possible within of the rules if peak. [[spoiler: That's for scrubs though, Nameless dislikes wasting his time so pointlessly! Which is why he accrues a boatload of multipliers and makes an Artifact to do the cultivating for him, reaching the power of a Titan, the highest known stage, by sixteen.]]
* MentorOccupationalHazard: Just when
we don't play nice.
* DoesNotLikeMagic: The Heroine's divine brother calls
find a helpful lich mentor that wants to teach us all about Diagram magic, it turns out as weeb shit. Shows what that he knows!is [[YouCantFightFate Doomed]] to die soonish. Naturally, he manages to ScrewDestiny and die in a manner that empowers us massively.
* MutuallyExclusiveMagic: Cultivation, Diagram, and the Binary magic of the elves are all exclusive Arts and someone can only practice a single one of them. Except for [[SpecialSnowflakeSyndrome very special snowflakes]].
* TheNameless: And we sold our name too, because there is never enough power. What's the use of a name, anyway? Even if the Divinities attach great importance to having one and lacking it makes it easier for the Heroine to [[{{Dehumanization}} dehumanize]] us, that's hardly going to be a problem when we're trying to kill each other.



* TheDragon: Our Lieutenant, a one-in-a-million genius that we've stumbled upon on the road. An [[{{Revenge}} Avenger]] and believer in Truth, Justice and the Imperial Way... before she met Nameless. [[spoiler: Turns out to be one of the Heroines afterwards, with her target being the strongest Titan, Zang Kong himself.]]
* SuperpowerLottery: ''If the three schools of magic could ever be mastered by a single entity, their powers would not combine linearly. Interactions would be discovered that compound one upon the other''. We won that one. Or rather, we paid very handsomely for the chance to use all magic systems simultaneously, a supposedly unprecedented ability.
* PrincelyYoungMan: We're a smug young master, [[SpoiledBrat spoiled]] and proud of it. Except when it interferes with our training, but what can you do?
* BeyondTheImpossible: One of the quest's themes, the real path to power isn't training hard, it's learning how to cheat harder.
* BadassFamily: When your dad is a MagnificentBastard, your mom was the best assassin of the White Orchid Sisterhood that he [[InLoveWithTheMark turned]] into his waifu after she was sent to kill him, and your grandfather isn't just a CoolOldGuy, but one of the four strongest people in the world...
* TakeOverTheWorld: One of the MC's humble ambitions.
* LoweredMonsterDifficulty: We start with a weaker version of the Heroine's luck[[spoiler:, which progresses towards ContractualBossImmunity when we encounter the TrueFinalBoss]]
* WhatIsEvil: Kong Zang definitely is. Or is he? One of the Empire's founders and inventor of Scientific Cultivation, he doesn't mind [[AMillionIsAStatistic billions of people dying]] if it helps him progress towards higher cultivation stages, so one would think he qualifies as capital Evil. [[spoiler: Except we [[HiddenVillain later]] find out that he contains infinite universes inside himself, with a population that greatly exceeds that of the outside world, so according to him ''To incur my slightest displeasure is to reduce the happiness within Existence by an incalculable amount. [...] An elegant way to resolve the otherwise-natural tension between morality and selfishness, no?'' He admits that he doesn't pretend to morals immediately afterwards, of course. GrewBeyondTheirProgramming can be said to apply to him, as he exploited Cultivation to break the system far beyond what the Fates had anticipated and is their main target. [[AGodAmI Fun guy]]. One of the few reasons the players would consider [[TeethClenchedTeamwork temporarily allying]] with the Heroine, though siding with him is equally possible.]]
* MagicalEye: The Eyes of Kong are a bloodline engineered by Kong and possessed by our Lieutenant, Suizhen. [[spoiler: She later becomes so loyal that she changes her Eyes to fit our needs and gives us an eye transplant. Which was what led to our first meeting with Zang Kong...]]
* GentlemanAndAScholar: Literally one of Kong Zang's titles.
* ChickMagnet: Nameless can't help it that he's so handsome and charming. And any rumors of [[LoveTriangle love triangles]] are greatly exaggerated, I'm telling you!
* MutuallyExclusiveMagic: Cultivation, Diagram, and the Binary magic of the elves are all exclusive Arts and someone can only practice a single one of them. Except for [[SpecialSnowflakeSyndrome very special snowflakes]].
* RealityWarper: At lower levels Cultivators are little more than filthy muscle wizards, but as they grow and delve into their SupernaturalMartialArts, they acquire PersonalityPowers and EnlightenmentSuperpowers, learning how to force their personal beliefs onto reality.
* MeditationPowerup: Cultivation is hard and often requires hundreds of years to get to the higher stages, to speak nothing of the peak. [[spoiler: That's for scrubs though, Nameless dislikes wasting his time so pointlessly! Which is why he accrues a boatload of multipliers and makes an Artifact to do the cultivating for him, reaching the power of a Titan, the highest known stage, by sixteen.]]
* DangerousForbiddenTechnique:
* FunctionalMagic and FormulaicMagic: The Diagram, a fairly structured and versatile type of magic that is somewhat reminiscent of D&D wizards, only turned up to 11. It still can't keep up with Cultivation when it comes to power, sadly, and the remaining liches are reduced to being little more than [[YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters terrorists]] surviving at the edges of civilization.
* MagicIsMental: The Diagram is less resource-intensive than other kinds of magic, but spells need to be researched and it requires a high degree of intelligence to be successful at.
* BloodMagic: One of the Signs involves sacrificing large quantities of blood, be it one's own or someone else's. Of course Nameless doesn't forget to [[ExploitedImmunity cheat]] with his undying biology.
* MentorOccupationalHazard: Just when we find a helpful lich mentor that wants to teach us all about Diagram magic, it turns out that he is [[YouCantFightFate Doomed]] to die soonish. Naturally, he manages to ScrewDestiny and die in a manner that empowers us massively.
* GreenThumb: Both Diagram and Naturalism are good at this, though we've only really practiced the former.
* AchillesHeel: What do you mean making an ArtifactOfDoom is a bad idea? A phylactery need to be suitably cool, you know? It holds Nameless' magnificent soul, after all.
* AlwaysLawfulGood: The elves, one of the few factions not composed of jerkasses, though it is often remarked that they're TooDumbToLive.
* ItemCrafting: The Artifice part of Elven magic, it requires one to CastFromExperiencePoints, CastFromLifespan, and CastFromSanity. Small price, really.
* DomainHolder: Naturalism, a less explored part of elven magic, it theoretically allows one to set up rules in an area that belongs to the caster and is mainly used for defensive purposes.
* PersonOfMassDestruction: Cultivators of higher stages have to be ''really'' careful about the collateral damage, or they risk having to redraw the maps afterwards. The Titans? Their fights can quite literally shatter continents.
* CataclysmBackstory: Thousands of Ages precede the current one, and the Fates seem to enjoy making their [[EndOfAnAge end]] suitably dramatic. [[spoiler: We later learn that the bulk of their power is available to them at the opening and closing of Ages, so perhaps there is more to this than pure sadism...]]

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* TheDragon: Our Lieutenant, a one-in-a-million genius that we've stumbled upon on the road. An [[{{Revenge}} Avenger]] and believer in Truth, Justice and the Imperial Way... before she met Nameless. [[spoiler: Turns out to be one of the Heroines afterwards, with her target being the strongest Titan, Zang Kong himself.]]
* SuperpowerLottery: ''If the three schools of magic could ever be mastered by a single entity, their powers would not combine linearly. Interactions would be discovered that compound one upon the other''. We won that one. Or rather, we paid very handsomely for the chance to use all magic systems simultaneously, a supposedly unprecedented ability.
* PrincelyYoungMan: We're a smug young master, [[SpoiledBrat spoiled]] and proud of it. Except when it interferes with our training, but what can you do?
* BeyondTheImpossible: One of the quest's themes, the real path to power isn't training hard, it's learning how to cheat harder.
* BadassFamily: When your dad is a MagnificentBastard, your mom was the best assassin of the White Orchid Sisterhood that he [[InLoveWithTheMark turned]] into his waifu after she was sent to kill him, and your grandfather isn't just a CoolOldGuy, but one of the four strongest people in the world...
* TakeOverTheWorld: One of the MC's humble ambitions.
* LoweredMonsterDifficulty: We start with a weaker version of the Heroine's luck[[spoiler:, which progresses towards ContractualBossImmunity when we encounter the TrueFinalBoss]]
* WhatIsEvil: Kong Zang definitely is. Or is he? One of the Empire's founders and inventor of Scientific Cultivation, he doesn't mind [[AMillionIsAStatistic billions of people dying]] if it helps him progress towards higher cultivation stages, so one would think he qualifies as capital Evil. [[spoiler: Except we [[HiddenVillain later]] find out that he contains infinite universes inside himself, with a population that greatly exceeds that of the outside world, so according to him ''To incur my slightest displeasure is to reduce the happiness within Existence by an incalculable amount. [...] An elegant way to resolve the otherwise-natural tension between morality and selfishness, no?'' He admits that he doesn't pretend to morals immediately afterwards, of course. GrewBeyondTheirProgramming can be said to apply to him, as he exploited Cultivation to break the system far beyond what the Fates had anticipated and is their main target. [[AGodAmI Fun guy]]. One of the few reasons the players would consider [[TeethClenchedTeamwork temporarily allying]] with the Heroine, though siding with him is equally possible.]]
* MagicalEye: The Eyes of Kong are a bloodline engineered by Kong and possessed by our Lieutenant, Suizhen. [[spoiler: She later becomes so loyal that she changes her Eyes to fit our needs and gives us an eye transplant. Which was what led to our first meeting with Zang Kong...]]
* GentlemanAndAScholar: Literally one of Kong Zang's titles.
* ChickMagnet: Nameless can't help it that he's so handsome and charming. And any rumors of [[LoveTriangle love triangles]] are greatly exaggerated, I'm telling you!
* MutuallyExclusiveMagic: Cultivation, Diagram, and the Binary magic of the elves are all exclusive Arts and someone can only practice a single one of them. Except for [[SpecialSnowflakeSyndrome very special snowflakes]].
* RealityWarper: At lower levels Cultivators are little more than filthy muscle wizards, but as they grow and delve into their SupernaturalMartialArts, they acquire PersonalityPowers and EnlightenmentSuperpowers, learning how to force their personal beliefs onto reality.
* MeditationPowerup: Cultivation is hard and often requires hundreds of years to get to the higher stages, to speak nothing of the peak. [[spoiler: That's for scrubs though, Nameless dislikes wasting his time so pointlessly! Which is why he accrues a boatload of multipliers and makes an Artifact to do the cultivating for him, reaching the power of a Titan, the highest known stage, by sixteen.]]
* DangerousForbiddenTechnique:
* FunctionalMagic and FormulaicMagic: The Diagram, a fairly structured and versatile type of magic that is somewhat reminiscent of D&D wizards, only turned up to 11. It still can't keep up with Cultivation when it comes to power, sadly, and the remaining liches are reduced to being little more than [[YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters terrorists]] surviving at the edges of civilization.
* MagicIsMental: The Diagram is less resource-intensive than other kinds of magic, but spells need to be researched and it requires a high degree of intelligence to be successful at.
* BloodMagic: One of the Signs involves sacrificing large quantities of blood, be it one's own or someone else's. Of course Nameless doesn't forget to [[ExploitedImmunity cheat]] with his undying biology.
* MentorOccupationalHazard: Just when we find a helpful lich mentor that wants to teach us all about Diagram magic, it turns out that he is [[YouCantFightFate Doomed]] to die soonish. Naturally, he manages to ScrewDestiny and die in a manner that empowers us massively.
* GreenThumb: Both Diagram and Naturalism are good at this, though we've only really practiced the former.
* AchillesHeel: What do you mean making an ArtifactOfDoom is a bad idea? A phylactery need to be suitably cool, you know? It holds Nameless' magnificent soul, after all.
* AlwaysLawfulGood: The elves, one of the few factions not composed of jerkasses, though it is often remarked that they're TooDumbToLive.
* ItemCrafting: The Artifice part of Elven magic, it requires one to CastFromExperiencePoints, CastFromLifespan, and CastFromSanity. Small price, really.
* DomainHolder: Naturalism, a less explored part of elven magic, it theoretically allows one to set up rules in an area that belongs to the caster and is mainly used for defensive purposes.
* PersonOfMassDestruction: Cultivators of higher stages have to be ''really'' careful about the collateral damage, or they risk having to redraw the maps afterwards. The Titans? Their fights can quite literally shatter continents.
* CataclysmBackstory: Thousands of Ages precede the current one, and the Fates seem to enjoy making their [[EndOfAnAge end]] suitably dramatic. [[spoiler: We later learn that the bulk of their power is available to them at the opening and closing of Ages, so perhaps there is more to this than pure sadism...
]]
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* TheDragon: Our Lieutenant, a one-in-a-million genius that we've stumbled upon on the road. An [[Revenge Avenger]] and believer in Truth, Justice and the Imperial Way... before she met Nameless. [[spoiler: Turns out to be one of the Heroines afterwards, with her target being the strongest Titan, Zang Kong himself.]]

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* TheDragon: Our Lieutenant, a one-in-a-million genius that we've stumbled upon on the road. An [[Revenge [[{{Revenge}} Avenger]] and believer in Truth, Justice and the Imperial Way... before she met Nameless. [[spoiler: Turns out to be one of the Heroines afterwards, with her target being the strongest Titan, Zang Kong himself.]]
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* TheNameless: And we sold our name too, because there is never enough power. What's the use of a name, anyway? Even if the Divinities attach great importance to having one and lacking it makes it easier for the Heroine to [[Dehumanization dehumanize]] us, that's hardly going to be a problem when we're trying to kill each other.

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* TheNameless: And we sold our name too, because there is never enough power. What's the use of a name, anyway? Even if the Divinities attach great importance to having one and lacking it makes it easier for the Heroine to [[Dehumanization [[{{Dehumanization}} dehumanize]] us, that's hardly going to be a problem when we're trying to kill each other.



* Reincarnation: Both the Heroine and the MC.

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* Reincarnation: {{Reincarnation}}: Both the Heroine and the MC.

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* TheChosenMany: Except we've agreed to the existence of 4-5 more Hero(in)es in exchange for additional power!
* PlotArmor
* StoryDrivenInvulnerability
* GodInHumanForm
* UnwinnableByDesign

* Reincarnation
* GodsHandsAreTied
* EarnYourHappyEnding
* MagicallyBindingContract
* DoesNotLikeMagic

* VillainProtagonist:
* SuperpowerLottery
* PrincelyYoungMan
* SpoiledBrat
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold
* BeyondTheImpossible
* ImpossibleTask:
* TakeOverTheWorld
* BadassFamily
* MagnificentBastard
* CoolOldGuy
* ArchEnemy
* ContractualBossImmunity
* LoweredMonsterDifficulty

* HiddenVillain
* TrueFinalBoss
* GrewBeyondTheirProgramming
* AGodAmI
* GentlemanAndAScholar

* TeethClenchedTeamwork

* ChickMagnet
* LoveTriangle

* MutuallyExclusiveMagic

* RealityWarper
* MeditationPowerup
* PersonalityPowers
* EnlightenmentSuperpowers
* SupernaturalMartialArts
* DangerousForbiddenTechnique

* FunctionalMagic
* FormulaicMagic
* MagicIsMental
* BloodMagic
* MentorOccupationalHazard
* GreenThumb
* AchillesHeel

* ItemCrafting
* DomainHolder
* CastFromExperiencePoints
* CastFromLifespan
* CastFromSanity

* PersonOfMassDestruction
* CataclysmBackstory
* EndOfAnAge

* TheDragon

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* TheChosenMany: Except we've agreed to the existence of 4-5 more Hero(in)es in exchange for additional power!
options!
* PlotArmor
TheNameless: And we sold our name too, because there is never enough power. What's the use of a name, anyway? Even if the Divinities attach great importance to having one and lacking it makes it easier for the Heroine to [[Dehumanization dehumanize]] us, that's hardly going to be a problem when we're trying to kill each other.
* StoryDrivenInvulnerability
PlotArmor: Possessed of StoryDrivenInvulnerability, if the Heroine is "completely obliterated, soul trapped and devoured by ancient lich, wiped from time stream, destiny defiled, killed from and through higher dimensions", she might not even come back from one of those!
* GodInHumanForm
GodInHumanForm: One of the Divinities incarnated as [[TheHero The Heroine]], thankfully [[DePower without]] her divine powers, for what it's worth.
* UnwinnableByDesign

ImpossibleTask: Or so we're told. Given that this game has played out thousands of times before, our chances don't look good. But who knows? Maybe this time will be different...
* Reincarnation
Reincarnation: Both the Heroine and the MC.
* GodsHandsAreTied
MagicallyBindingContract: The gods swore to grant us whatever we want, should we win. They ''really'' don't want us to win.
* EarnYourHappyEnding
GodsHandsAreTied: The gods appear to be restricted in their actions to a great extent, though nothing prevents them from making things as annoying as possible within the rules if we don't play nice.
* MagicallyBindingContract
DoesNotLikeMagic: The Heroine's divine brother calls it out as weeb shit. Shows what he knows!
* DoesNotLikeMagic

VillainProtagonist: The ArchEnemy role we've been assigned and taken to with gusto. Well, we're more of a JerkWithAHeartOfGold, as one of our Lieutenants notes later, but she's not exactly the most objective source.
* VillainProtagonist:
TheDragon: Our Lieutenant, a one-in-a-million genius that we've stumbled upon on the road. An [[Revenge Avenger]] and believer in Truth, Justice and the Imperial Way... before she met Nameless. [[spoiler: Turns out to be one of the Heroines afterwards, with her target being the strongest Titan, Zang Kong himself.]]
* SuperpowerLottery
SuperpowerLottery: ''If the three schools of magic could ever be mastered by a single entity, their powers would not combine linearly. Interactions would be discovered that compound one upon the other''. We won that one. Or rather, we paid very handsomely for the chance to use all magic systems simultaneously, a supposedly unprecedented ability.
* PrincelyYoungMan
PrincelyYoungMan: We're a smug young master, [[SpoiledBrat spoiled]] and proud of it. Except when it interferes with our training, but what can you do?
* SpoiledBrat
BeyondTheImpossible: One of the quest's themes, the real path to power isn't training hard, it's learning how to cheat harder.
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold
BadassFamily: When your dad is a MagnificentBastard, your mom was the best assassin of the White Orchid Sisterhood that he [[InLoveWithTheMark turned]] into his waifu after she was sent to kill him, and your grandfather isn't just a CoolOldGuy, but one of the four strongest people in the world...
* BeyondTheImpossible
TakeOverTheWorld: One of the MC's humble ambitions.
* ImpossibleTask:
LoweredMonsterDifficulty: We start with a weaker version of the Heroine's luck[[spoiler:, which progresses towards ContractualBossImmunity when we encounter the TrueFinalBoss]]
* TakeOverTheWorld
WhatIsEvil: Kong Zang definitely is. Or is he? One of the Empire's founders and inventor of Scientific Cultivation, he doesn't mind [[AMillionIsAStatistic billions of people dying]] if it helps him progress towards higher cultivation stages, so one would think he qualifies as capital Evil. [[spoiler: Except we [[HiddenVillain later]] find out that he contains infinite universes inside himself, with a population that greatly exceeds that of the outside world, so according to him ''To incur my slightest displeasure is to reduce the happiness within Existence by an incalculable amount. [...] An elegant way to resolve the otherwise-natural tension between morality and selfishness, no?'' He admits that he doesn't pretend to morals immediately afterwards, of course. GrewBeyondTheirProgramming can be said to apply to him, as he exploited Cultivation to break the system far beyond what the Fates had anticipated and is their main target. [[AGodAmI Fun guy]]. One of the few reasons the players would consider [[TeethClenchedTeamwork temporarily allying]] with the Heroine, though siding with him is equally possible.]]
* BadassFamily
MagicalEye: The Eyes of Kong are a bloodline engineered by Kong and possessed by our Lieutenant, Suizhen. [[spoiler: She later becomes so loyal that she changes her Eyes to fit our needs and gives us an eye transplant. Which was what led to our first meeting with Zang Kong...]]
* MagnificentBastard
GentlemanAndAScholar: Literally one of Kong Zang's titles.
* CoolOldGuy
ChickMagnet: Nameless can't help it that he's so handsome and charming. And any rumors of [[LoveTriangle love triangles]] are greatly exaggerated, I'm telling you!
* ArchEnemy
MutuallyExclusiveMagic: Cultivation, Diagram, and the Binary magic of the elves are all exclusive Arts and someone can only practice a single one of them. Except for [[SpecialSnowflakeSyndrome very special snowflakes]].
* ContractualBossImmunity
RealityWarper: At lower levels Cultivators are little more than filthy muscle wizards, but as they grow and delve into their SupernaturalMartialArts, they acquire PersonalityPowers and EnlightenmentSuperpowers, learning how to force their personal beliefs onto reality.
* LoweredMonsterDifficulty

MeditationPowerup: Cultivation is hard and often requires hundreds of years to get to the higher stages, to speak nothing of the peak. [[spoiler: That's for scrubs though, Nameless dislikes wasting his time so pointlessly! Which is why he accrues a boatload of multipliers and makes an Artifact to do the cultivating for him, reaching the power of a Titan, the highest known stage, by sixteen.]]
* HiddenVillain
DangerousForbiddenTechnique:
* TrueFinalBoss
FunctionalMagic and FormulaicMagic: The Diagram, a fairly structured and versatile type of magic that is somewhat reminiscent of D&D wizards, only turned up to 11. It still can't keep up with Cultivation when it comes to power, sadly, and the remaining liches are reduced to being little more than [[YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters terrorists]] surviving at the edges of civilization.
* GrewBeyondTheirProgramming
MagicIsMental: The Diagram is less resource-intensive than other kinds of magic, but spells need to be researched and it requires a high degree of intelligence to be successful at.
* AGodAmI
BloodMagic: One of the Signs involves sacrificing large quantities of blood, be it one's own or someone else's. Of course Nameless doesn't forget to [[ExploitedImmunity cheat]] with his undying biology.
* GentlemanAndAScholar

MentorOccupationalHazard: Just when we find a helpful lich mentor that wants to teach us all about Diagram magic, it turns out that he is [[YouCantFightFate Doomed]] to die soonish. Naturally, he manages to ScrewDestiny and die in a manner that empowers us massively.
* TeethClenchedTeamwork

GreenThumb: Both Diagram and Naturalism are good at this, though we've only really practiced the former.
* ChickMagnet
AchillesHeel: What do you mean making an ArtifactOfDoom is a bad idea? A phylactery need to be suitably cool, you know? It holds Nameless' magnificent soul, after all.
* LoveTriangle

AlwaysLawfulGood: The elves, one of the few factions not composed of jerkasses, though it is often remarked that they're TooDumbToLive.
* MutuallyExclusiveMagic

ItemCrafting: The Artifice part of Elven magic, it requires one to CastFromExperiencePoints, CastFromLifespan, and CastFromSanity. Small price, really.
* RealityWarper
DomainHolder: Naturalism, a less explored part of elven magic, it theoretically allows one to set up rules in an area that belongs to the caster and is mainly used for defensive purposes.
* MeditationPowerup
PersonOfMassDestruction: Cultivators of higher stages have to be ''really'' careful about the collateral damage, or they risk having to redraw the maps afterwards. The Titans? Their fights can quite literally shatter continents.
* PersonalityPowers
* EnlightenmentSuperpowers
* SupernaturalMartialArts
* DangerousForbiddenTechnique

* FunctionalMagic
* FormulaicMagic
* MagicIsMental
* BloodMagic
* MentorOccupationalHazard
* GreenThumb
* AchillesHeel

* ItemCrafting
* DomainHolder
* CastFromExperiencePoints
* CastFromLifespan
* CastFromSanity

* PersonOfMassDestruction
* CataclysmBackstory
* EndOfAnAge

* TheDragon
CataclysmBackstory: Thousands of Ages precede the current one, and the Fates seem to enjoy making their [[EndOfAnAge end]] suitably dramatic. [[spoiler: We later learn that the bulk of their power is available to them at the opening and closing of Ages, so perhaps there is more to this than pure sadism...]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:First order of business as a Dark Lord: none of this "sunlight" nonsense. by [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/members/priest.4493/ Priest.]]]]
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* The Chosen One: The Heroine is supposed to be this.
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'' "An Age of the World draws to a close. Cataclysm and anarchy ravage its peoples. Bandits and monstrosities prowl the wilderness. The great empires of yore are decaying husks of their former glory, offering little protection at the price of ceaseless exploitation. Oppressed, benighted, savaged by tempest and claw, the masses of the world cry out for a savior.''

'' Their cry is answered. The self-styled Divinities, secret masters of the world, send forth one of their own to be born amongst the people, to live as incarnate flesh and lead them into a new Age. Every genius shall be afforded her. Destiny shall be her perennial ally, circumstance laid prostrate at her feet. She shall tear down the moldering edifices of the past and lay them as kindling for the phoenix-flame to come. From that conflagration shall the Spirit of the World be born anew, the close of an Age and the dawn of its successor. ''

'' At all costs, she must be stopped." ''

[[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/even-further-beyond.45951/ Even Further Beyond]] is a quest written by Rihaku on the Sufficient Velocity forums.

A common Xianxia story: the plucky hero lives unremarkably until circumstances and fate align to force them out of their humble home and into adventuring across the greater world. Improbable luck follows them like a lost puppy, wiping the floor with smug young masters is par for the course, and any defeats are mere narrative tools to set up even greater rewards. They upend the established order by their very existence and claw their way to the top of the food chain until none are left to challenge them.

You are not that hero.

No, you are the smug young master, improbably snatched from Earth and reincarnated to serve as the Heroine's foil in the great game of Divinities. Theoretically, you have been granted power equal to her own in the name of 'Balance', but when one of you is the reincarnation of a former Divinity who is destined to win and the other... isn't, things get dicey.

There can be no peace, no compromise, no concessions. In this game there can only be one winner, and should you fail, you will get to experience the tender mercies of the Divinities, just like all your predecessors did.

Choose carefully. Choose well. For all of us that have come before.


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