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* ADateWithRosiePalms: Never described, but more than implied to be one way in which the sisters are dealing with the aftereffects of being around Joyous. Celestia throws in teleport-based self-dunkings in a cold lake while Luna uses some of the benefits of being {{An Ice Person}}.
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* FramingTheGuiltyParty: Due to the lack of proper legal procedure in the impromptu raid on the dealer's farm, it would be extremely difficult to convict Choke Hold of any of the things he actually ''did'' do. So Celestia tricks him into requesting a private conference, and then uses the ability of a skilled unicorn to hide their field to telekinetically puppet Choke Hold into appearing to assault her in front of the minotaur cops watching from the next room.
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** As discussed in the final chapter, any attempt to weaponize red-tinge would be this at ''best''. Use it on minotaurs, and you'll get the physically strongest soldiers anyone's every seen... who will also be monomaniacs that are almost impossible to get to take orders. Used on ponies, it boosts their talent to unheard-of levels... over the course of months, and while rendering them totally incapable of doing anything that ''isn't'' their talent. And Discord alone knows what it might do to other races.

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* RealityEnsues: Just because Joyous and her parents are ultimately cured (although the Doctors Bear want to see all three regularly in order to make sure everything's still normal) doesn't meant their lives are instantly perfect afterwards. Pleasant and Rapture have huge gaps in their memories from the years when the disease was effectively thinking for them, have to reconcile what happened to Joyous because of it, and Rapture's taken on some extra self-blame because she's the one who originally spotted the flowers. Joyous has all the issues listed for her above, plus she has to take make-up classes in order to finish school ''and'' has no idea what a pony whose talent is being sexy is supposed to do for a living. Luna makes a point of providing the name and address of a therapist before the family leaves the place, and it's safe to say there's going to be a ''lot'' of sessions in their future.
** The raid on the dealers' farm didn't exactly follow any level of legal procedure, which means a lot of the charges might wind up being dropped. Celestia has to resort to her WoundedGazelleGambit in order to put Choke Hold behind bars, and that's successful -- but it's possible that some of his employees could wind up walking away.
** Also, because Celestia and Luna couldn't tell Mazein exactly what they were up to during the national tour (used to give them a cover story for being present to investigate), they arouse suspicion from Referee Moonsault -- who ends the story realizing that she was lied to and, while the results of those lies seem to be positive, she doesn't know what the ''truth'' behind them is. She's less than happy about it, and relationships between Equestria and Mazein are going to be strained for a while.

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* RealityEnsues: Just because Joyous and her parents are ultimately cured (although the Doctors Bear want to see all three regularly in order to make sure everything's still normal) doesn't meant their lives are instantly perfect afterwards. Pleasant and Rapture have huge gaps in their memories from the years when the disease was effectively thinking for them, have to reconcile what happened to Joyous because of it, and Rapture's taken on some extra self-blame because she's the one who originally spotted the flowers. Joyous has all the issues listed for her above, plus she has to take make-up classes in order to finish school ''and'' has no idea what a pony whose talent is being sexy is supposed to do for a living. Luna makes a point of providing the name and address of a therapist before the family leaves the place, and it's safe to say there's going to be a ''lot'' of sessions in their future.
** The raid on the dealers' farm didn't exactly follow any level of legal procedure, which means a lot of the charges might wind up being dropped. Celestia has to resort to her WoundedGazelleGambit in order to put Choke Hold behind bars, and that's successful -- but it's possible that some of his employees could wind up walking away.
** Also, because Celestia and Luna couldn't tell Mazein exactly what they were up to during the national tour (used to give them a cover story for being present to investigate), they arouse suspicion from Referee Moonsault -- who ends the story realizing that she was lied to and, while the results of those lies seem to be positive, she doesn't know what the ''truth'' behind them is. She's less than happy about it, and relationships between Equestria and Mazein are going to be strained for a while.


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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Just because Joyous and her parents are ultimately cured (although the Doctors Bear want to see all three regularly in order to make sure everything's still normal) doesn't meant their lives are instantly perfect afterwards. Pleasant and Rapture have huge gaps in their memories from the years when the disease was effectively thinking for them, have to reconcile what happened to Joyous because of it, and Rapture's taken on some extra self-blame because she's the one who originally spotted the flowers. Joyous has all the issues listed for her above, plus she has to take make-up classes in order to finish school ''and'' has no idea what a pony whose talent is being sexy is supposed to do for a living. Luna makes a point of providing the name and address of a therapist before the family leaves the place, and it's safe to say there's going to be a ''lot'' of sessions in their future.
** The raid on the dealers' farm didn't exactly follow any level of legal procedure, which means a lot of the charges might wind up being dropped. Celestia has to resort to her WoundedGazelleGambit in order to put Choke Hold behind bars, and that's successful -- but it's possible that some of his employees could wind up walking away.
** Also, because Celestia and Luna couldn't tell Mazein exactly what they were up to during the national tour (used to give them a cover story for being present to investigate), they arouse suspicion from Referee Moonsault -- who ends the story realizing that she was lied to and, while the results of those lies seem to be positive, she doesn't know what the ''truth'' behind them is. She's less than happy about it, and relationships between Equestria and Mazein are going to be strained for a while.
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* {{Demythtification}}: An InUniverse case happens in chapter 13, where, tired of having to keep her secrets from everybody, Celestia reveals that she was born as just another ordinary pony to Joyous, though she doesn't mention how she and Luna ascended to alicorndom.

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* {{Demythtification}}: {{Demythification}}: An InUniverse case happens in chapter 13, where, tired of having to keep her secrets from everybody, Celestia reveals that she was born as just another ordinary pony to Joyous, though she doesn't mention how she and Luna ascended to alicorndom.
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* BiTheWay: Confirmed for Luna, although she notes that she's very seldom attracted to mares and has been both celibate and dateless since the Return, with too many things happening to even consider a relationship. In her own words, "Any attempt to reach out would not have been for attraction or connection, but latching onto a buoy to keep from drowning."
** It's unclear if Celestia is a lesbian, bisexual or even "straight but [[IfItsYouItsOkay swayed by Joyous' Talent]]". However, during her heart-to-heart in chapter 13, she mentions a nameless pegasus stallion, clearly very dear to her, who tried to help her learn to "appreciate the ''now''". Assuming this stallion was Celestia's FirstLove and not her father, that suggests Celestia is either bi or "straight but swayed".
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* LovecraftianSuperpower: Kalziver's Severance, a spell which can (very briefly) strip a pony of their cutie mark. This is an act so fundamentally contrary to the nature of ponies in the Continuum that even a few seconds of use will cause debilitating pain for hours as the caster suffers the cost for forcing pony magic to do something that it fundamentally ''should not'' do.
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* VetinariJobSecurity: {{Discussed}}. During the fight with the dealers, Celestia briefly considers stepping forward, identifying herself and her sister, and gambling that the dealers will still be sane enough to remember that if she and Princess Luna die, the world (including those same dealers) will die with them.
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** The Princesses' ability to uplink to their respective celestial bodies. They can't brake or accelerate without drawing a lot of attention, so their time on target is strictly fixed and they have to wait until they get SUN or MOON over whatever they want to look at. SUN and MOON's sensoria are so different from pony senses that they can't retain the bulk of what they perceive. And they need external help to get back to their own bodies, and even when they do they'll suffer from withdrawal symptoms and be unable to use their magic for hours thereafter. But despite all those limits, they still have access to what amounts to spy satellites. In a pure fantasy setting, the kind of information that provides them is priceless.
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*** The most popular fan theory is that this may have turned him into ''Sombra''.
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** In chapter 15, it's reconfirmed that Starswirl [[Recap/TriptychContinuumTriptych created the Alicorn Amulet]] -- and then we find out that Celestia did something to him on his deathbed. (This turns out to be the incident she was talking about in [[Recap/TriptychContinuumBlessing Blessing]]. All we know about the working is that Luna describes it as an abomination, and that Celestia was in some way trying to ''call him back''.

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** In chapter 15, it's reconfirmed that Starswirl [[Recap/TriptychContinuumTriptych created the Alicorn Amulet]] -- and then we find out that Celestia did something to him on his deathbed. (This turns out to be the incident she was talking about in [[Recap/TriptychContinuumBlessing Blessing]]. ) All we know about the working is that Luna describes it as an abomination, and that Celestia was in some way trying to ''call him back''.
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** The most popular fan theory is that this may have turned him into ''Sombra''.

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* LivingAphrodisiac: Joyous, [[SmellsSexy and the means by which her talent operates]]. Her magic detects and samples the natural pheromones coming off a sapient being, then produces the ''exact'' chemical required to induce sexual interest and arousal in the other party. When viewing through the proper filter, she appears to be surrounded by a multi-hued twisting cloud of mists, which changes color as new pheromones are brought into the mix. And while the analysis and creation process are at least partially magical, the ''results'' are perfectly normal chemicals -- which is why the effects she produces on others can't be directly magically countered. ([[WordOfGod Word Of Fanfic Author]] says using the Severance on her would temporarily shut down pheromone production, but wouldn't negate anything already in the air or which had targeted another being.)) As such, the attempts to stop or contain her talent wind up mixing magic and science.

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* LivingAphrodisiac: Joyous, [[SmellsSexy and the means by which her talent operates]]. Her magic detects and samples the natural pheromones coming off a sapient being, then produces the ''exact'' chemical required to induce sexual interest and arousal in the other party. When viewing through the proper filter, she appears to be surrounded by a multi-hued twisting cloud of mists, which changes color as new pheromones are brought into the mix. And while the analysis and creation process are at least partially magical, the ''results'' are perfectly normal chemicals -- which is why the effects she produces on others can't be directly magically countered. ([[WordOfGod Word Of Fanfic Author]] says using the Severance on her would temporarily shut down pheromone production, but wouldn't negate anything already in the air or which had targeted another being.)) ) As such, the attempts to stop or contain her talent wind up mixing magic and science.



** Chapter 14: the flower behind the disease is recovered, but at the cost of Chocolate being exposed.



** Chapter 14: the flower behind the disease is recovered, but at the cost of Chocolate being exposed.

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* CompleteMonster: This is the InUniverse attitude held towards Choke Hold, the minotaur druglord who created red-tinge, who forced innocent minotaurs to experiment with various wild zone plants until they died -- at which point they were replaced with more victims -- or they found a way to market the plant as a drug, and who decided lethal drugs, previously unknown in Mazein, were perfectly okay to pursue so long as a sufficient supply of new victims could be found: as far as he was concerned, everyone was either a sucker or a test subject -- and why did a sucker deserve to live? Averted in that they, however reluctantly, insist on giving him full legal rights and due process, even if it means he walks in the end.
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* DueToTheDead: Minotaur faith states that their ancestors (Ancients) are never quite gone. They occasionally ask them for advice, build miniature, fully-operational houses in front of the real ones to give the dead a place to stay, and even grant them a place in the government: the Skênê, where the ghosts gather to vote on the issues of the day. However, minotaurs are practical, and that vote only comes into play for one event: if all of Mazein votes to a ''tie'', the decision of the Skênê breaks it -- and that tie has never happened.


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* TheFederation: Somewhat, in single-nation form: Mazein is a classic democracy where any citizen (of at least moderate intelligence and proven sanity who's willing to take a test every two years to prove their knowledge of the issues) can vote. As such, their form of government is the Senate, and any interested, qualified citizens can show up to vote in their ''logeions'': majority rules. It means the nation really doesn't have professional politicians, but the process does require someone strong enough to enforce ''order'' on it -- leading to the post of Referee, determined by holding a debate between the current holder and the contender at the top of the queue, every six weeks, with the winner determined by vote. It's mentioned as being a hard post to hold onto for more than half a generation.
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* TheGloriousWarOfSisterlyRivarly: Very much present throughout. To some degree, Celestia and Luna are subconsciously trying to impress Joyous -- something Celestia realizes in Chapter 7 -- and it means that each occasionally tries to outdo the other. There's also a mention that each has the ''duty'' to occasionally take the other down a few pegs, as a reminder that in the end, they're both still just ponies.

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* TheGloriousWarOfSisterlyRivarly: TheGloriousWarOfSisterlyRivalry: Very much present throughout. To some degree, Celestia and Luna are subconsciously trying to impress Joyous -- something Celestia realizes in Chapter 7 -- and it means that each occasionally tries to outdo the other. There's also a mention that each has the ''duty'' to occasionally take the other down a few pegs, as a reminder that in the end, they're both still just ponies.

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* ArousedByTheirVoice: Even when Joyous conceals herself in a manure-scented burlap sack, her voice is enticing enough to bypass the royal guards and drive Luna to distraction.

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* ArousedByTheirVoice: Even when Joyous conceals herself in a manure-scented burlap sack, her voice is enticing enough to bypass the royal guards and drive Luna to distraction.distraction -- or at least so it initially seems. Later events prove it was Joyous' pheromones which initially got everypony's attention.



** The refined, functional Hoovmat Suit that Luna and Celestia get created for Joyous. It actually ''works'', but the charcoal filters can only absorb so many pheromones before they become saturated, and while the revised creation no longer tears due to little things like normal pony movement, it can still be ripped. Overall, it can give her some freedom to go out amongst other beings, but it's not really a permanent solution.
* BadassBookworm: It turns out that Chocolate Bear's personal spell is to produce a virtual {{Laser Blade}} from his field, with literally surgically sharp edges: essentially, he comes with his own scalpel. In chapter 14, he brings a rampaging minotaur to a halt by sincerely threatening to kill him with it, despite being a doctor who's never had to fight before and who admits he really doesn't like the idea of taking life.

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** The refined, functional Hoovmat Suit that Luna and Celestia get created for Joyous. It actually ''works'', but the charcoal filters can only absorb so many pheromones before they become saturated, and while the revised creation no longer tears due to little things like normal pony movement, it can still be ripped. Overall, it can give her some freedom to go out amongst other beings, but it's not really a permanent solution.
solution. However, once the story ends, it's a fairly reliable means of being safe around some hazardous materials -- but the supply is decidedly limited, and Mr. Hoovmat would have to be pushed ''hard'' before he might even remotely consider making another product which does what it promises. By the last chapter, Celestia is hoping the minotaur manufacturer who create the dealers' suits can be found so the business can be made legitimate and brought into Equestria.
* BadassBookworm: BadassBookworm: It turns out that Chocolate Bear's personal spell is to produce a virtual {{Laser Blade}} from his field, with literally surgically sharp edges: essentially, he comes with his own scalpel. In chapter 14, he Chocolate brings a rampaging minotaur to a halt by sincerely threatening to kill him with it, it (or just slice the suit over the nostrils to infect him with red-tinge), despite being a doctor who's never had to fight before and who admits he really doesn't like the idea of taking life.life -- but his medical career has seen nine ponies die under his watch. He can add one minotaur to that list.
--> "But my partner jokes that I only learn by cutting. You're a minotaur, and I've never treated a minotaur. But you're also a ''mammal''. I know where every major artery is in your body. I know ''where'' to cut you. My field is up against your left carotid. One more thought and I can use a femoral for backup. Between the two, you'll bleed out within heartbeats. Trust me: if it's you or [[HeterosexualLifePartners him]], I already chose him."



** It's unclear if Celestia is a lesbian, bisexual or even "straight but [[IfItsYouItsOkay swayed by Joyous' Talent]]". During her heart-to-heart in chapter 13, she mentions a nameless pegasus stallion, clearly very dear to her, who tried to help her learn to "appreciate the ''now''". Assuming this stallion was Celestia's FirstLove and not her father, that suggests Celestia is either bi or "straight but swayed".

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** It's unclear if Celestia is a lesbian, bisexual or even "straight but [[IfItsYouItsOkay swayed by Joyous' Talent]]". During However, during her heart-to-heart in chapter 13, she mentions a nameless pegasus stallion, clearly very dear to her, who tried to help her learn to "appreciate the ''now''". Assuming this stallion was Celestia's FirstLove and not her father, that suggests Celestia is either bi or "straight but swayed".



* {{Brainwashed}}: It turns out the parents of Joyous Release have had their personalities all but consumed by their cutie marks.

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* {{Brainwashed}}: It turns out the parents of Joyous Release have had their personalities all but consumed by their cutie marks. As their talents are ''active'', they have to deliberately practice the increased magic in order to express it -- which means they basically do two things: weather surveying and the basic needs of survival, because you have to be alive in order to survey. Minor aspects of the job are still accounted for, such as filling out paperwork for a new employer -- but by the time they're found, even that's starting to slip.



* CompleteMonster: This is the InUniverse attitude held towards Choke Hold, the minotaur druglord who created red-tinge, who forced innocent minotaurs to experiment with various wild zone plants until they died -- at which point they were replaced with more victims -- or they found a way to market the plant as a drug, and who decided lethal drugs, previously unknown in Mazein, were perfectly okay to pursue so long as a sufficient supply of new victims could be found: as far as he was concerned, everyone was either a sucker or a test subject, and why did a sucker deserve to live. Averted in that they, however reluctantly, insist on giving him full legal rights and due process.

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* CompleteMonster: This is the InUniverse attitude held towards Choke Hold, the minotaur druglord who created red-tinge, who forced innocent minotaurs to experiment with various wild zone plants until they died -- at which point they were replaced with more victims -- or they found a way to market the plant as a drug, and who decided lethal drugs, previously unknown in Mazein, were perfectly okay to pursue so long as a sufficient supply of new victims could be found: as far as he was concerned, everyone was either a sucker or a test subject, subject -- and why did a sucker deserve to live. live? Averted in that they, however reluctantly, insist on giving him full legal rights and due process.process, even if it means he walks in the end.



* EarnYourHappyEnding: Joyous Appeal and her parents are cured of their PowerIncontinence by the story's end. Joyous' Talent is still extremely powerful, and shows no sign of abating in strength, but she no longer has to worry about [[ThePornomancer inciting orgies wherever she goes]].

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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Because the flower is disease and cure in a single organism (pollen and root), it ''can't'' be destroyed. Both Mazein and Equestria need to maintain a supply so they can treat new cases, in the event of anyone finding fresh stock in another wild zone. It's mentioned that eventually, every nation may need their own supply (although no one knows what the effects would look like in the other species and so they can only hope someone correctly diagnoses deep magic gone wrong), it would make a horrible weapon -- and they're still going to be waiting for the individual stupid enough to try using it as one. It's basically a WMD metaphor.
* EarnYourHappyEnding: Joyous Appeal Release and her parents are cured of their PowerIncontinence by the story's end. Joyous' Talent is still extremely powerful, and shows no sign of abating in strength, but she no longer has to worry about [[ThePornomancer inciting orgies wherever she goes]]. The affected minotaurs have also been cured and Mazein's red-tinge problem is at least temporarily solved.



* FreudianSlipperySlope: Celestia keeps trying to write a letter to Joyous's parents, letting them know their daughter is safe. It [[WritersBlockMontage takes several tries]].

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* FreudianSlipperySlope: Celestia keeps trying to write a letter to Joyous's parents, letting them know their daughter is safe. It [[WritersBlockMontage takes several tries]].tries]], and all of them end when Celestia spots either the rising innuendo or... well, the final attempt didn't stop there.
* TheGloriousWarOfSisterlyRivarly: Very much present throughout. To some degree, Celestia and Luna are subconsciously trying to impress Joyous -- something Celestia realizes in Chapter 7 -- and it means that each occasionally tries to outdo the other. There's also a mention that each has the ''duty'' to occasionally take the other down a few pegs, as a reminder that in the end, they're both still just ponies.



* GoodDoesNotMeanSoft: Invoked, discussed and zigzagged. In the final chapter, Celestia notes to Choke Hold that everyone thinks of her as being the "good" sister and, therefore, the "pushover" compared to her much blunter sibling Luna. However, she thoroughly averts this by admitting that, even if she is somewhat constrained by the rules, she's still a pragmatist at heart. Then she uses her WoundedGazelleGambit.
* GreenEyedMonster: In a reference to something revealed in ''[[Recap/TriptychContinuumTriptych Triptych]]'', it's discussed how Star Swirl betrayed the sisters out of envy over their ascending to alicorndom instead of him during chapter 15. It's furthered by implying he may have turned into ''Sombra'' as a result.

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* GoodDoesNotMeanSoft: GoodIsNotSoft: Invoked, discussed and zigzagged. In the final chapter, Celestia notes to Choke Hold that everyone thinks of her as being the "good" sister and, therefore, the "pushover" compared to her the much blunter sibling Luna. [[DarkShepherd Luna]]. However, she thoroughly averts this by admitting that, even if she is somewhat constrained by the rules, she's still a pragmatist at heart. Then heart -- and ''then'' she uses her WoundedGazelleGambit.
--> "I'm good by choice, Choke, and part of that is because I know what all the other options look like."
* GreenEyedMonster: In a reference to something revealed in ''[[Recap/TriptychContinuumTriptych Triptych]]'', it's discussed Chapter 15 discusses how Star Swirl betrayed the sisters out of envy over their ascending to alicorndom instead of him during chapter 15. It's furthered by implying he may have turned into ''Sombra'' as him.
* HeterosexualLifePartners: Chocolate and Vanilla, full stop: each would die for the other. On their worst days, they're brothers, and on the best... well, they're
a result.little bit married.



* InsultOfEndearment: Luna likes to call Celestia "Sun-Butt", and this may be connected why the ambassadors/leaders of Mazein have permission to use the same nickname. The final chapter reveals Celestia has her own nickname for Luna: "Crater-Ass".

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* InsultOfEndearment: InsultOfEndearment: Debatable. The story concludes with Luna likes trying to call Celestia "Sun-Butt", and this may be connected why the ambassadors/leaders push one more of Mazein have permission to use Celestia's buttons by using the same nickname. The final chapter reveals Celestia has term for her own nickname which minotaur ambassadors have been pulling out for Luna: "Crater-Ass".generations, saying "Good night -- Sunbutt." Unfortunately, Celestia's imagination immediately kicks in and despite predicting the ultimate consequences of chase, tickle fight, and potential gossip, she still lets her reply into the open -- and so the entire story ends on the following line:
--> "Good night, Crater-Ass."



* LivingAphrodisiac: Joyous, [[SmellsSexy and the means by which her talent operates]]. Her magic detects and samples the natural pheromones coming off a sapient being, then produces the ''exact'' chemical required to induce sexual interest and arousal in the other party. When viewing through the proper filter, she appears to be surrounded by a multi-hued twisting cloud of mists, which changes color as new pheromones are brought into the mix. And while the analysis and creation process are at least partially magical, the ''results'' are perfectly normal chemicals -- which is why the effects she produces on others can't be directly magically countered.

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* LivingAphrodisiac: Joyous, [[SmellsSexy and the means by which her talent operates]]. Her magic detects and samples the natural pheromones coming off a sapient being, then produces the ''exact'' chemical required to induce sexual interest and arousal in the other party. When viewing through the proper filter, she appears to be surrounded by a multi-hued twisting cloud of mists, which changes color as new pheromones are brought into the mix. And while the analysis and creation process are at least partially magical, the ''results'' are perfectly normal chemicals -- which is why the effects she produces on others can't be directly magically countered. ([[WordOfGod Word Of Fanfic Author]] says using the Severance on her would temporarily shut down pheromone production, but wouldn't negate anything already in the air or which had targeted another being.)) As such, the attempts to stop or contain her talent wind up mixing magic and science.



* NewPowersAsThePlotDemands: Suggested to be the case with some pony talents, with certain new ones only emerging when the time is right for them. (However, this may also just indicate that such talents aren't recognized until they reach the proper environment.) This led to one fan theory suggesting Joyous' existence means Equestria has reached the point of creating brothels; a combination of details from [[Recap/TriptychContinuumTwilightsEscortService Twilight's Escort Service]] and WordOfGod went on to establish that, yes, Equestria ''does'' have prostitution, although brothels are generally only found in the largest settled zones.

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* NewPowersAsThePlotDemands: Suggested to be the case with some pony talents, with certain new ones only emerging when the time is right for them. (However, this may also just indicate that such talents aren't recognized until they reach the proper environment.) This led to one fan theory suggesting Joyous' existence means Equestria has reached the point of creating brothels; brothels -- and later on, a combination of details from [[Recap/TriptychContinuumTwilightsEscortService Twilight's Escort Service]] and WordOfGod [[WordOfGod Word Of Fanfic Author]] went on to establish that, yes, Equestria ''does'' have legalized prostitution, although brothels are generally only found in the largest settled zones.zones.
* NotQuiteBackToNormal: While Pleasant, Rapture, and the affected minotaurs wind up completely cured, Joyous only gains control over her magic: the ''strength'' of her talent doesn't decrease. The Doctors Bear theorize that because the disease was in her system prior to her mark's manifestation, Joyous' body has no idea what a pony normal ''is'' -- and so the final level she'd reached before consuming the root becomes it.



* RealityEnsues: Just because [[spoiler:Joyous and her parents get cured]] doesn't meant their lives are instantly perfect afterwards. There's going to be a ''lot'' of therapy in their future.
* ReplacementGoldfish: Luna's perception of Cadance. The two rather decidedly do ''not'' get along.

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* RealityEnsues: Just because [[spoiler:Joyous Joyous and her parents get cured]] are ultimately cured (although the Doctors Bear want to see all three regularly in order to make sure everything's still normal) doesn't meant their lives are instantly perfect afterwards. There's afterwards. Pleasant and Rapture have huge gaps in their memories from the years when the disease was effectively thinking for them, have to reconcile what happened to Joyous because of it, and Rapture's taken on some extra self-blame because she's the one who originally spotted the flowers. Joyous has all the issues listed for her above, plus she has to take make-up classes in order to finish school ''and'' has no idea what a pony whose talent is being sexy is supposed to do for a living. Luna makes a point of providing the name and address of a therapist before the family leaves the place, and it's safe to say there's going to be a ''lot'' of therapy sessions in their future.
** The raid on the dealers' farm didn't exactly follow any level of legal procedure, which means a lot of the charges might wind up being dropped. Celestia has to resort to her WoundedGazelleGambit in order to put Choke Hold behind bars, and that's successful -- but it's possible that some of his employees could wind up walking away.
** Also, because Celestia and Luna couldn't tell Mazein exactly what they were up to during the national tour (used to give them a cover story for being present to investigate), they arouse suspicion from Referee Moonsault -- who ends the story realizing that she was lied to and, while the results of those lies seem to be positive, she doesn't know what the ''truth'' behind them is. She's less than happy about it, and relationships between Equestria and Mazein are going to be strained for a while.
* ReplacementGoldfish: Luna's original perception of Cadance. The two rather decidedly do ''not'' get along.



** Several ''very'' personal details about Celestia and Luna's origins are revealed in chapter 13; they were born to an ordinary pony couple during the Discordian era, as the third (Celestia) and fifth (Luna) of seven living foals (five fillies, two colts), they don't know their birthday due to there being no way of keeping track of days during Discord's era and the days that modern ponies ''think'' of as their birthdays are actually the closest-guess anniversaries of major fights against Discord, they buried at least one stillborn little sister, and their illustrious manes and tails are a side effect from carrying so much magic -- added to a potential minor case of [[StubbornHair wish fulfillment]].
** In chapter 15, it's implied that Starswirl not only created the Alicorn Amulet, but that something Celestia did to him afterwards ''turned him into Sombra''.
* RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething: The sisters, in large part because they can't trust many other ponies to get involved with the problem.

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** Several ''very'' personal details about Celestia and Luna's origins are revealed in chapter 13; they were born to an ordinary pony couple during the Discordian era, as the third (Celestia) and fifth (Luna) of seven living foals (five fillies, two colts), they don't know their birthday due to there being no way of keeping track of days during Discord's era and the days that modern ponies ''think'' of as their birthdays are actually the closest-guess anniversaries of major fights against Discord, they buried at least one stillborn little sister, and their illustrious manes and tails are a side effect from carrying so much magic -- added to a potential minor case of [[StubbornHair wish fulfillment]].
** In chapter 15, it's implied reconfirmed that Starswirl not only [[Recap/TriptychContinuumTriptych created the Alicorn Amulet, but Amulet]] -- and then we find out that something Celestia did something to him afterwards ''turned on his deathbed. (This turns out to be the incident she was talking about in [[Recap/TriptychContinuumBlessing Blessing]]. All we know about the working is that Luna describes it as an abomination, and that Celestia was in some way trying to ''call him back''.
** The most popular fan theory is that this may have turned
him into Sombra''.
''Sombra''.
* RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething: The sisters, in large part because they can't trust many other ponies to get involved with the problem. However, the ''consequences'' of this are fully explored. There are reasons Celestia and Luna seldom act directly, and the most major one is that losing both of them means there's nopony left who can manage Sun and Moon. Having an ''obligation'' to stay alive means forcing yourself to sit on the sidelines most of the time -- something neither is happy with. To have both siblings saying they're going along with the raiding party, even with the protection of their Hoovmat suits, nearly puts Torque into a rather justifiable rage.



* SecretKeeper: Following the events of Chapter 9, the Doctors Bear are two of three living ponies to know the sisters and Cadance were not born as alicorns. (The third is Fancypants.)

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* SecretKeeper: Following the events of Chapter 9, the Doctors Bear are two of three living ponies to know have been directly told by Equestria's royalty that the sisters and Cadance were not born as alicorns. (The third is Fancypants.)) This, along with their service in Joyous' cause, ultimately leads to the revival of the Royal Physician post and the granting of limited permission to continue investigating the workings of the alicorn body, in the hopes of heading off a few potential future disasters. They're granted that honor because of everything they did -- and because Luna realizes that when you have two doctors willing to try crazy things on that level, you need to put them where you can keep an eye on them.



** In chapter 12:

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** In chapter 12:12, we have the first on-screen words of a major character: '''''Sun''''':



-->''USER ONE ACKNOWLE-DGE-DGED

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-->''USER ONE ACKNOWLE-DGE-DGEDACKNOWLE-DGE-DGED''



** Chapter 14: the flower behind the disease is recovered, but at the cost of Chocolate being exposed.



* WoundedGazelleGambit: Invoked; Celestia uses the ability of a skilled unicorn to hide their telekinetic field to first release Choke Hold from his bindings and then [[PeoplePuppets manipulate him like a marionette]] into striking her whilst Mazein police watch through the one-way privacy mirror. Combined with its sound-blocking qualities, this means that Celestia has just put Choke Hold into a legal bind he ''cannot'' hope to wriggle his way out of.

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* WoundedGazelleGambit: Invoked; Celestia uses the ability of a skilled unicorn to hide their telekinetic field to first release Choke Hold from his bindings and then [[PeoplePuppets manipulate him like a marionette]] into striking her whilst Mazein police watch through the one-way privacy mirror. Combined with its the mirror's sound-blocking qualities, qualities having kept the witnesses in the dark about the actual discussion, this means that Celestia has just put Choke Hold into a legal bind he ''cannot'' hope to wriggle his way out of.of, as there's no way he can ever threaten her into dropping the assault charge.
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* RealityEnsues: Just because [[spoiler:Joyous and her parents get cured]] doesn't meant their lives are instantly perfect afterwards. There's going to be a ''lot'' of therapy in their future.
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* GoodDoesNotMeanSoft: Invoked, discussed and zigzagged. In the final chapter, Celestia notes to Choke Hold that everyone thinks of her as being the "good" sister and, therefor, the "pushover" compared to her much blunter sibling Luna. However, she thoroughly averts this by admitting that, even if she is somewhat constrained by the rules, she's still a pragmatist at heart. Then she uses her WoundedGazelleGambit.

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* GoodDoesNotMeanSoft: Invoked, discussed and zigzagged. In the final chapter, Celestia notes to Choke Hold that everyone thinks of her as being the "good" sister and, therefor, therefore, the "pushover" compared to her much blunter sibling Luna. However, she thoroughly averts this by admitting that, even if she is somewhat constrained by the rules, she's still a pragmatist at heart. Then she uses her WoundedGazelleGambit.

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After looking over the relevant paragraphs in chapter 13 again, it does look more like she's referring to a failed First Love than to her father.


** It's unclear if Celestia is a lesbian, bisexual or even "straight but [[IfItsYouItsOkay swayed by Joyous' Talent]]" so far.

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** It's unclear if Celestia is a lesbian, bisexual or even "straight but [[IfItsYouItsOkay swayed by Joyous' Talent]]" so far.Talent]]". During her heart-to-heart in chapter 13, she mentions a nameless pegasus stallion, clearly very dear to her, who tried to help her learn to "appreciate the ''now''". Assuming this stallion was Celestia's FirstLove and not her father, that suggests Celestia is either bi or "straight but swayed".



* CorruptCorporateExecutive: Mr. Hoovmat, who has taken his great-grandfather's honest business and run it into the ground by producing the shoddiest, cheapest work he can and who is implied to use all manner of underhanded dealings to ensure his company retains a total monopoly over the hazard-suit industry. (Unfortunately, once the sisters reach Mazein, that monopoly is proven to be localized in ''Equestria'', and the drug growers have suits of their own.)

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* CompleteMonster: This is the InUniverse attitude held towards Choke Hold, the minotaur druglord who created red-tinge, who forced innocent minotaurs to experiment with various wild zone plants until they died -- at which point they were replaced with more victims -- or they found a way to market the plant as a drug, and who decided lethal drugs, previously unknown in Mazein, were perfectly okay to pursue so long as a sufficient supply of new victims could be found: as far as he was concerned, everyone was either a sucker or a test subject, and why did a sucker deserve to live. Averted in that they, however reluctantly, insist on giving him full legal rights and due process.
* CorruptCorporateExecutive: Mr. Hoovmat, who has taken his great-grandfather's honest business and run it into the ground by producing the shoddiest, cheapest work he can and who is implied to use all manner of underhanded dealings to ensure his company retains a total monopoly over the hazard-suit industry. (Unfortunately, Unfortunately for our heroes, once the sisters reach Mazein, that monopoly is proven to be localized in ''Equestria'', and the drug growers have suits of their own.)



*** Given that the working was apparently used to get through the field-projecting interference of the Hoovmat suit, added to the slight color shift in Luna's field and a few things seen over in ''Triptych'' itself, all indications point to Luna having pulled out something learned from [[FaceHeelTurn Star Swirl]].

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*** Given that the working was apparently used to get through the field-projecting interference of the Hoovmat suit, added to the slight color shift in Luna's field and a few things seen over in ''Triptych'' itself, all indications point to Luna having pulled out something learned from [[FaceHeelTurn Star Swirl]]. This is then confirmed in chapter 15.



* EarnYourHappyEnding: Joyous Appeal and her parents are cured of their PowerIncontinence by the story's end. Joyous' Talent is still extremely powerful, and shows no sign of abating in strength, but she no longer has to worry about [[ThePornomancer inciting orgies wherever she goes]].



* FantasticDrug: Red-tinge, derived from the pollen of a nameless flower related to Poison Joke that causes fatally exponential increases in a user's magic.



* GoodDoesNotMeanSoft: Invoked, discussed and zigzagged. In the final chapter, Celestia notes to Choke Hold that everyone thinks of her as being the "good" sister and, therefor, the "pushover" compared to her much blunter sibling Luna. However, she thoroughly averts this by admitting that, even if she is somewhat constrained by the rules, she's still a pragmatist at heart. Then she uses her WoundedGazelleGambit.
* GreenEyedMonster: In a reference to something revealed in ''[[Recap/TriptychContinuumTriptych Triptych]]'', it's discussed how Star Swirl betrayed the sisters out of envy over their ascending to alicorndom instead of him during chapter 15. It's furthered by implying he may have turned into ''Sombra'' as a result.



** Confirmed for Luna in [[TriptychContinuumBlessing Blessing]].

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** Confirmed for Luna in [[TriptychContinuumBlessing Blessing]].''[[Recap/TriptychContinuumBlessing Blessing]]''.



* InsultOfEndearment: Luna likes to call Celestia "Sun-Butt", and this may be connected why the ambassadors/leaders of Mazein have permission to use the same nickname. The final chapter reveals Celestia has her own nickname for Luna: "Crater-Ass".



* {{Irony}}: The pollen of the nameless "power boost" flowers causes the deadly magic-boosting effect, but the root of that very plant turns out to be its ''cure''.



* NewPowersAsThePlotDemands: Suggested to be the case with some pony talents, with certain new ones only emerging when the time is right for them. (However, this may also just indicate that such talents aren't recognized until they reach the proper environment.) This has led to one fan theory suggesting Joyous' existence means Equestria has reached the point of creating brothels.
** However, since [[Recap/TriptychContinuumTwilightsEscortService Twilight's Escort Service]] established paid sexual companionship as being legal in Equestria, it's likely that such facilities already exist.
*** Confirmed by [[WordOfGod Word Of Fanfic Author]], but they're generally only found in the largest settled zones.

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* NightmareFuel: Discussed InUniverse when Celestia and Torque talk about how, although the magic-boosting effects of red-tinge are powerful, [[AwesomeButImpractical they're far too unstable and]] [[SanityHasAdvantages deleterious on a user's mind]] [[AwesomeButImpractical to be successfully weaponized]]. But they still have to keep the plants in existence in case anyone ever gets exposed to the stuff in the wild, and they have to be aware that, at some point, some absolute ''moron'' may try to use it as a weapon all the same.
* NewPowersAsThePlotDemands: Suggested to be the case with some pony talents, with certain new ones only emerging when the time is right for them. (However, this may also just indicate that such talents aren't recognized until they reach the proper environment.) This has led to one fan theory suggesting Joyous' existence means Equestria has reached the point of creating brothels.
** However, since
brothels; a combination of details from [[Recap/TriptychContinuumTwilightsEscortService Twilight's Escort Service]] established paid sexual companionship as being legal in Equestria, it's likely that such facilities already exist.
*** Confirmed by [[WordOfGod Word Of Fanfic Author]], but they're
and WordOfGod went on to establish that, yes, Equestria ''does'' have prostitution, although brothels are generally only found in the largest settled zones.


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** In chapter 15, it's implied that Starswirl not only created the Alicorn Amulet, but that something Celestia did to him afterwards ''turned him into Sombra''.


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* WoundedGazelleGambit: Invoked; Celestia uses the ability of a skilled unicorn to hide their telekinetic field to first release Choke Hold from his bindings and then [[PeoplePuppets manipulate him like a marionette]] into striking her whilst Mazein police watch through the one-way privacy mirror. Combined with its sound-blocking qualities, this means that Celestia has just put Choke Hold into a legal bind he ''cannot'' hope to wriggle his way out of.
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Because the 'he' in this case isn't named as being her father, and she'd already said mixed families in their era were something close to impossible.


** Several ''very'' personal details about Celestia and Luna's origins are revealed in chapter 13; they were born to an ordinary pony couple (pegasus father, unknown mother) during the Discordian era, as the third (Celestia) and fifth (Luna) of seven living foals (five fillies, two colts), they don't know their birthday due to there being no way of keeping track of days during Discord's era and the days that modern ponies ''think'' of as their birthdays are actually the closest-guess anniversaries of major fights against Discord, they buried at least one stillborn little sister, and their illustrious manes and tails are a side effect from carrying so much magic -- added to a potential minor case of [[StubbornHair wish fulfillment]].

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** Several ''very'' personal details about Celestia and Luna's origins are revealed in chapter 13; they were born to an ordinary pony couple (pegasus father, unknown mother) during the Discordian era, as the third (Celestia) and fifth (Luna) of seven living foals (five fillies, two colts), they don't know their birthday due to there being no way of keeping track of days during Discord's era and the days that modern ponies ''think'' of as their birthdays are actually the closest-guess anniversaries of major fights against Discord, they buried at least one stillborn little sister, and their illustrious manes and tails are a side effect from carrying so much magic -- added to a potential minor case of [[StubbornHair wish fulfillment]].
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Why was the part about the Sisters' father being a pegasus cut? Celestia states it in chaper 13 "Errogenous Zones", a paragraph before she declares her full name is actually Celestia Invictus.


** Several ''very'' personal details about Celestia and Luna's origins are revealed in chapter 13; they were born to an ordinary pony couple during the Discordian era, as the third (Celestia) and fifth (Luna) of seven living foals (five fillies, two colts), they don't know their birthday due to there being no way of keeping track of days during Discord's era and the days that modern ponies ''think'' of as their birthdays are actually the closest-guess anniversaries of major fights against Discord, they buried at least one stillborn little sister, and their illustrious manes and tails are a side effect from carrying so much magic -- added to a potential minor case of [[StubbornHair wish fulfillment]].

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** Several ''very'' personal details about Celestia and Luna's origins are revealed in chapter 13; they were born to an ordinary pony couple (pegasus father, unknown mother) during the Discordian era, as the third (Celestia) and fifth (Luna) of seven living foals (five fillies, two colts), they don't know their birthday due to there being no way of keeping track of days during Discord's era and the days that modern ponies ''think'' of as their birthdays are actually the closest-guess anniversaries of major fights against Discord, they buried at least one stillborn little sister, and their illustrious manes and tails are a side effect from carrying so much magic -- added to a potential minor case of [[StubbornHair wish fulfillment]].

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** After learning that Joyous' problems stem from a rare magical plant that just generally causes an exposed victim's magic to grow incessantly until they can't consciously control it anymore, Chocolate and Vanilla both contemplate the idea of ''exposing themselves'' in hopes that the subsequent boost to their own medical talent-magic will ultimately give them the "push" they need to make a rapid breakthrough.

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** After learning that Joyous' problems stem from a rare magical plant that just generally causes an exposed victim's magic to grow incessantly until they can't consciously control it anymore, Chocolate and Vanilla both contemplate briefly contemplates the idea of ''exposing themselves'' himself'' in hopes that the subsequent boost to their his own medical talent-magic talent and magic will ultimately give them him the "push" they need he needs to make a rapid breakthrough.breakthrough.
*** And by the end of Chapter Fourteen, it's ''Chocolate'' who's been exposed.



* MundaneUtility: Earth pony [[DishingOutDirt magic]] is perfectly suited to detecting pit traps, at least for those which have been placed into the local soil.



* PowerLimiter: The revised Hoovmat Suits protect their wearers from many forms of potential infection, along with confining Joyous' talent inside charcoal filters. They also cover horns and completely stop wing movement. The majority of unicorns and pegasi would find their ability to use magic negated while wearing one, and the sisters wind up fighting through so much interference on their field workings that the heavily-sparking results can affect, at best, one target at a time. This makes the fight against the minotaur dealers into a difficult affair, at least until Luna [[LetsGetDangerous does something]] [[DangerousForbiddenTechnique she hasn't attempted in a long time]].



** Several ''very'' personal details about Celestia and Luna's origins are revealed in chapter 13; they were born to an ordinary pony couple during the Discordian era, as the third (Celestia) and fifth (Luna) of seven living foals (five fillies, two colts), they don't know their birthday due to there being no way of keeping track of days during Discord's era and the days that modern ponies ''think'' of as their birthdays are actually the closest-guess anniversaries of major fights against Discord, their father was a pegasus, they buried at least one stillborn little sister, and their illustrious manes and tails are actually magical illusions.

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** Several ''very'' personal details about Celestia and Luna's origins are revealed in chapter 13; they were born to an ordinary pony couple during the Discordian era, as the third (Celestia) and fifth (Luna) of seven living foals (five fillies, two colts), they don't know their birthday due to there being no way of keeping track of days during Discord's era and the days that modern ponies ''think'' of as their birthdays are actually the closest-guess anniversaries of major fights against Discord, their father was a pegasus, they buried at least one stillborn little sister, and their illustrious manes and tails are actually magical illusions.a side effect from carrying so much magic -- added to a potential minor case of [[StubbornHair wish fulfillment]].



* SinsOfOurFathers: Invoked, discussed and averted in chapter 13, when Celestia confirms to an indignant Chocolate that there was indeed a war fought where the enemy physically cut off Cutie Marks to try and nullify the inherent magic of captured ponies, then firmly tells him to forget it, as those who committed the acts are generations past being dead and dust. She kindly decides not to illuminate him that the war was fought ''between'' ponies, and that those self-same ponies were more than willing to hack off ''horns and wings'' from their captives as well as flaying off their Marks.

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* SinsOfOurFathers: Invoked, discussed and averted in chapter 13, when Celestia confirms to an indignant Chocolate that there was indeed a war fought where the enemy physically cut off Cutie Marks marks to try and nullify the inherent magic of captured ponies, ponies -- then firmly tells him to forget it, as those who committed the acts are generations past being dead and dust. She also kindly decides not to illuminate him that the war was fought ''between'' ponies, and that those self-same ponies were also more than willing to hack off ''horns and wings'' from their captives as well as along with flaying off their Marks.marks.
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* BadassBookworm: It turns out that Chocolate Bear's personal spell is to produce a virtual {{Laser Blade}}s from his field, with literally surgically sharp edges. In chapter 14, he brings a rampaging minotaur to a halt by sincerely threatening to kill him with it, despite being a doctor who's never had to fight before and who admits he really doesn't like the idea of taking life.

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* BadassBookworm: It turns out that Chocolate Bear's personal spell is to produce a virtual {{Laser Blade}}s Blade}} from his field, with literally surgically sharp edges.edges: essentially, he comes with his own scalpel. In chapter 14, he brings a rampaging minotaur to a halt by sincerely threatening to kill him with it, despite being a doctor who's never had to fight before and who admits he really doesn't like the idea of taking life.
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* BadassBookworm: It turns out that Chocolate Bear's special Talent is to produce {{Laser Blade}}s from his field, with literally surgically sharp edges. In chapter 14, he brings a rampaging minotaur to a halt by sincerely threatening to kill him with it, despite being a doctor who's never had to fight before and who admits he really doesn't like the idea of taking life.

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* BadassBookworm: It turns out that Chocolate Bear's special Talent personal spell is to produce a virtual {{Laser Blade}}s from his field, with literally surgically sharp edges. In chapter 14, he brings a rampaging minotaur to a halt by sincerely threatening to kill him with it, despite being a doctor who's never had to fight before and who admits he really doesn't like the idea of taking life.



* CorruptCorporateExecutive: Mr. Hoovmat, who has taken his father's honest business and run it into the ground by producing the shoddiest, cheapest work he can and who is implied to use all manner of underhanded dealings to ensure his company retains a total monopoly over the hazard-suit industry.

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* CorruptCorporateExecutive: Mr. Hoovmat, who has taken his father's great-grandfather's honest business and run it into the ground by producing the shoddiest, cheapest work he can and who is implied to use all manner of underhanded dealings to ensure his company retains a total monopoly over the hazard-suit industry.industry. (Unfortunately, once the sisters reach Mazein, that monopoly is proven to be localized in ''Equestria'', and the drug growers have suits of their own.)

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