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-> '''Martin:''' Let me make something clear to you...We are coming to save you, so instead of worrying, or struggling, count the moments you still have in your diseased world. Think of it as the last breaths before a nightmare...I am not a hero, so you don't have to worry about me failing to save everything. A god should answer all prayers without fail. Don't worry, the Messiah is coming.
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* WarWasBeginning: Savior!Martin outright announces the Savior invasion is coming.
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* CurbStompCushion: The heroes made no headway in the Saint dimension, gave away intelligence on their abilities, found little information on the Saviors or their world equivalent to how they were observed for months, and suffered a casualty. OTOH, Wilma put a dent in Prophet's mental invasion.
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-> '''Iris:''' [[VoiceOfTheLegion You want punishment? I can give you that...]]
-> '''Liam:''' You know...your friends abandoned you, your tech is behind mine, you've got a boring fighting style...I'd say it sucks to be you, but honestly? If you've got even a slightly scientific mind, you've probably deduced that by now. By the by, RIP; your elbow.
-> '''Ellie:''' We kill people, but we kill the people who deserve it. We don't enslave or torture people. We don't force people to get married when they don't want to. We don't make them have sex with us. And we'll never do any of that. I'll never let anyone like that take power. Never again. No matter what it takes.
-> '''Martin:''' Let me make something clear to you...We are coming to save you, so instead of worrying, or struggling, count the moments you still have in your diseased world. Think of it as the last breaths before a nightmare...I am not a hero, so you don't have to worry about me failing to save everything. A god should answer all prayers without fail. Don't worry, the Messiah is coming.
-> '''Liam:''' You know...your friends abandoned you, your tech is behind mine, you've got a boring fighting style...I'd say it sucks to be you, but honestly? If you've got even a slightly scientific mind, you've probably deduced that by now. By the by, RIP; your elbow.
-> '''Ellie:''' We kill people, but we kill the people who deserve it. We don't enslave or torture people. We don't force people to get married when they don't want to. We don't make them have sex with us. And we'll never do any of that. I'll never let anyone like that take power. Never again. No matter what it takes.
-> '''Martin:''' Let me make something clear to you...We are coming to save you, so instead of worrying, or struggling, count the moments you still have in your diseased world. Think of it as the last breaths before a nightmare...I am not a hero, so you don't have to worry about me failing to save everything. A god should answer all prayers without fail. Don't worry, the Messiah is coming.
* BewareTheNiceOnes: [[spoiler: Iris is the 'stick' that forces Saint's surrender. (Holiday offering the carrot).]]
* BoringInsult: Its super effective on Mason.
* BoringInsult: Its super effective on Mason.
* HulksCooldownHug: Holiday does it with a flare.
* NeverendingTerror: Savior!Martin compares the heroes' work to this in contrast to the system the Saviors had built.
* NoHoldsBarredBeatdown: The heroes don't come off ''great'' against the heroes but Mason especially gets his limbs twisted and crushed and his body and spirit broken under Liam's assault. He won't even leave the hospital ward a month after the fight.
* NoHoldsBarredBeatdown: The heroes don't come off ''great'' against the heroes but Mason especially gets his limbs twisted and crushed and his body and spirit broken under Liam's assault. He won't even leave the hospital ward a month after the fight.
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-> '''Mahvash:''' "I'll remind you again that you all have been coming along in a world where Saint was dead...You've been finding your way to being good heroes for a long time. I'll also remind you that 1) that wasn't you on the TV and 2) the point of a school is to train the next generation to be better. If you don't approve of what you saw, keep being heroes, your kind of heroes. And less Disney, I know this sucks but take your time.
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-> '''Mahvash:''' "I'll I'll remind you again that you all have been coming along in a world where Saint was dead...You've been finding your way to being good heroes for a long time. I'll also remind you that 1) that wasn't you on the TV and 2) the point of a school is to train the next generation to be better. If you don't approve of what you saw, keep being heroes, your kind of heroes. And less Disney, I know this sucks but take your time.
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* '''[=AntiViv:=]''' Yes, it is too damned weird to just start slugging. I actually do want to talk to you. And murder gets too boring. For all of their pomp and drama, the rest of them never got their hands dirty before the Saint....changed his ways, I guess you'd say. They jumped in quickly, but there's a difference between killing someone with their powers and using a knife. You remember what that felt like, don't you? The fight and the sweat and the blood?
-> '''Not-Too-Bright-Random:''' Oh, grow some balls, Eugene! You're just giving them what they want! As for me, I'm never gonna bow down before some crazy demon chick who won't even bother to put on some fucking pants!
-> '''Prophet/[=AntiMartin=]:''' Okay everyone stop bearing your fangs at each other for a second and lets act like mature and reasonable adults for a second. You're going to give them the impression that they've entered a reality where we all ended up as monsters or something.
-> '''Lily:''' Ideals... never come about. We're human. We'll fail. But we fight. That's what makes us heroes. Not... fighting villains, either. Fighting ourselves. Fighting everything. Fighting everything that stops everyone else from doing the same. And it kills you. I know you're tired, and I'm sorry, but...no. I can't. You've given up. I'm sorry.
-> '''Liam:''' ...Seems to me you exalt the idea of hero as the underdog. That things are perpetually immutable, and we can't do anything but fight everything and keep fighting and fighting...well, I'd disagree. Saying people can't achieve something and that they should just keep on fighting and fighting nevertheless...that's delusional. Unscientific - it's mysticism, almost religion. Eventually, science advances enough that your mystical belief system there about heroes as basically martyrs ceases to be viable.
-> '''Not-Too-Bright-Random:''' Oh, grow some balls, Eugene! You're just giving them what they want! As for me, I'm never gonna bow down before some crazy demon chick who won't even bother to put on some fucking pants!
-> '''Prophet/[=AntiMartin=]:''' Okay everyone stop bearing your fangs at each other for a second and lets act like mature and reasonable adults for a second. You're going to give them the impression that they've entered a reality where we all ended up as monsters or something.
-> '''Lily:''' Ideals... never come about. We're human. We'll fail. But we fight. That's what makes us heroes. Not... fighting villains, either. Fighting ourselves. Fighting everything. Fighting everything that stops everyone else from doing the same. And it kills you. I know you're tired, and I'm sorry, but...no. I can't. You've given up. I'm sorry.
-> '''Liam:''' ...Seems to me you exalt the idea of hero as the underdog. That things are perpetually immutable, and we can't do anything but fight everything and keep fighting and fighting...well, I'd disagree. Saying people can't achieve something and that they should just keep on fighting and fighting nevertheless...that's delusional. Unscientific - it's mysticism, almost religion. Eventually, science advances enough that your mystical belief system there about heroes as basically martyrs ceases to be viable.
* EstablishingCharacterMoment: Every Savior gets one but the one that seems to catch the most eyes is 'Prophet'.
* FantasticRacism: The Savior Verse is demonstrably not crime-free. (See the AttackHello the heroes got). And it doesn't look like different peoples are any closer either.
* ImplacableMan: Savior!Zach is technically DumbMuscle. This isn't funny ''at all'' [[note]]unless you're into that kinda thing[[/note]]. He's a ready attack dog and gleefully and relentlessly charges against and tears into the heroes--who all resemble his 'friends'--as soon as he gets the order. [[SilentAntagonist Oh, and he doesn't spend time spelling out anything]].
* MotiveRant: To be fair, Nariko asked for [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15654498340A83003200&page=34#comment-832 it]].
* RefugeInAudacity: Holiday weaponizes it. [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15654498340A83003200&page=33#comment-822 See for yourself.]]
* RefugeInAudacity: Holiday weaponizes it. [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15654498340A83003200&page=33#comment-822 See for yourself.]]
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* WeAreStrugglingTogether: The Saviors are far from friendly with each other. Saying they tolerate each other would be generous.
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* MirrorBoss: [=AntiMartin=] enjoys showing off that he's a mirror boss.
* SixthRanger: Intercepor and Rienbach place Marky somewhat awkwardly with the IW. Upon Iris's offer of help--in the form of an eye to watch his back--he's squicked outand very ''very'' visibly and loudly.loudly squicked out.
* ShadowArchetype: Squads 1&3 run into an entire team of [[ThePsychoRangers them...selves]].
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* SurvivalMantra: Marky comes up with one while confronting the Saint: [[note]][[quoteblock]]He glared daggers into the Saint as he went to strike. No rest. He remembered the death of Leon and the betrayal of their foundation. No mercy. He remembered what just happened to Martin. No matter what. He threw the kick at the Saint as hard as he could. [[/quoteblock]][[/note]] It was also instantly parodied: [[note]][[quoteblock]]No escape. He remembered when the Saint ran over his puppy. No release. He remembered when the Saint gave him the finger as he passed him in traffic. No slaps on the wrist. He remembered when the Saint stole the last doughnut and devoured it in public for all to see.[[/quoteblock]][[/note]].
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-> '''AntiSaint:''' As terrible and abominable as Gaea was, it was a wake-up call. For all the effort I put into changing things, for all the trouble I went through, someone like Gaea still came this close to bringing everything crashing down. And me with it. And I realized just how fragile it all was. Everything I made, everything I built up could be gone just like that. Like tearing off a band-aid. And I guess I was right. After coming over here, I saw how things would've turned out if they had managed to kill me. And it's exactly what I thought it'd be.
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-> '''Holiday:''' Keep in mind to worry about nothing. If you get hurt, it'll be lethal or not. If it's not lethal, don't worry. If it is lethal, you'll die, and then you can't worry. Classic soldier mindset. Keep that in mind and... actually don't. You'd just be thinking about dying– I'm not helping, am I?
-> '''AntiSaint:''' As terrible and abominable as Gaea was, it was a wake-up call. For all the effort I put into changing things, for all the trouble I went through, someone like Gaea still came this close to bringing everything crashing down. And me with it. And I realized just how fragile it all was. Everything I made, everything I built up could be gone just like that. Like tearing off a band-aid. And I guess I was right. After coming over here, I saw how things would've turned out if they had managed to kill me. And it's exactly what I thought it'd be.
-> '''Holiday:''' Keep in mind to worry about nothing. If you get hurt, it'll be lethal or not. If it's not lethal, don't worry. If it is lethal, you'll die, and then you can't worry. Classic soldier mindset. Keep that in mind and... actually don't. You'd just be thinking about dying– I'm not helping, am I?
-> '''AntiSaint:''' As terrible and abominable as Gaea was, it was a wake-up call. For all the effort I put into changing things, for all the trouble I went through, someone like Gaea still came this close to bringing everything crashing down. And me with it. And I realized just how fragile it all was. Everything I made, everything I built up could be gone just like that. Like tearing off a band-aid. And I guess I was right. After coming over here, I saw how things would've turned out if they had managed to kill me. And it's exactly what I thought it'd be.
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-> '''Mahvash:''' "I'll remind you again that you all have been coming along in a world where Saint was dead...You've been finding your way to being good heroes for a long time. I'll also remind you that 1) that wasn't you on the TV and 2) the point of a school is to train the next generation to be better. If you don't approve of what you saw, keep being heroes, your kind of heroes. And less Disney, I know this sucks but take your time.
-> '''Gloria:''' Goodness is not something that should be determined by one powerful man - I don't believe anything good can or ever has risen from that kind of thinking. ...The bigger battle is for the hearts of people who have seen a hero stray from the light, and have now become lost. A battle to show the world that it is our principles, not a singular individual, that should determine the path we take.
-> '''Viv:''' And I know no one's doing it, but let's not kid ourselves that anyone will miss Leon, first off. If one of your loved ones had died and he'd gotten away cackling you'd want to kill him too. That's just being human, and there are some arguments to be made that killing him was a good deed. Before my change, I might have done it given the chance.
-> '''Marky:''' I'm...I'm not Saint Lad any more. If you gotta call me something in the field, call me Ultra Lad. Or...or just Marky, or Marcus. Don't—-Don't connect me to the Saint any more. That man is dead to me.
-> '''Sam:''' So, is there anything compromised in the systems? Or anything missing?
-> '''Martin:''' Heroes have to take the harder road, work within laws to bring down threats. And when those threats are someone who talks and walks like the worlds greatest hero that means we need to rise higher to the occasion. Our actions from here on out decide what it means to be a hero in the modern era, because we are the examples that the Saint can't be anymore. I would trust each of you here with my life, we're going to win this.
-> '''Gloria:''' Goodness is not something that should be determined by one powerful man - I don't believe anything good can or ever has risen from that kind of thinking. ...The bigger battle is for the hearts of people who have seen a hero stray from the light, and have now become lost. A battle to show the world that it is our principles, not a singular individual, that should determine the path we take.
-> '''Viv:''' And I know no one's doing it, but let's not kid ourselves that anyone will miss Leon, first off. If one of your loved ones had died and he'd gotten away cackling you'd want to kill him too. That's just being human, and there are some arguments to be made that killing him was a good deed. Before my change, I might have done it given the chance.
-> '''Marky:''' I'm...I'm not Saint Lad any more. If you gotta call me something in the field, call me Ultra Lad. Or...or just Marky, or Marcus. Don't—-Don't connect me to the Saint any more. That man is dead to me.
-> '''Sam:''' So, is there anything compromised in the systems? Or anything missing?
-> '''Martin:''' Heroes have to take the harder road, work within laws to bring down threats. And when those threats are someone who talks and walks like the worlds greatest hero that means we need to rise higher to the occasion. Our actions from here on out decide what it means to be a hero in the modern era, because we are the examples that the Saint can't be anymore. I would trust each of you here with my life, we're going to win this.
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-> '''Cole:''' Anyone else tries something like this again and they get vigilante executed right there on Live TV? That's a public execution. Those weren't the words and actions of a hero or a savior. Those were the words and actions of a fascist. And everybody here who knows me should know what I do to fascists.
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* ItIsBeyondSaving: A few heroes feel this way about the whole 'Saint System' as some call it, the entire idea of heroism that Saint built around himself.
* LaResistance: Cole is already putting himself in a rebel leader's shoes.
* TerminallyDependentSociety: The US's reaction to Saint's return and then his television appearance make it seem as though hero and supernatural/base human relations have become this. One reason for the ItIsBeyondSaving attiude of a few heroes.
-> '''Cole:''' Anyone else tries something like this again and they get vigilante executed right there on Live TV? That's a public execution. Those weren't the words and actions of a hero or a savior. Those were the words and actions of a fascist. And everybody here who knows me should know what I do to fascists.
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* ItIsBeyondSaving: A few heroes feel this way about the whole 'Saint System' as some call it, the entire idea of heroism that Saint built around himself.
* LaResistance: Cole is already putting himself in a rebel leader's shoes.
* TerminallyDependentSociety: The US's reaction to Saint's return and then his television appearance make it seem as though hero and supernatural/base human relations have become this. One reason for the ItIsBeyondSaving attiude of a few heroes.
