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** Not only does Carl blame Ash for Kris's situation, but when his abuse is exposed to everyone, he insists that it was Kris deserved it for being a failure.

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** Not only does Carl blame Ash for Kris's situation, but when his abuse is exposed to everyone, he insists that it was Kris deserved it for being a failure.
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* EngineeredPublicConfession: Chloe gets Carl to expose his plans to both Officer Jenny and a recording device.

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* EngineeredPublicConfession: Chloe gets tricks Carl to expose into exposing his plans to both Officer Jenny and a recording device.



* ItsAllAboutMe: This is essentially what the motivation of the parents group boils down to. It turns out that their kids aren't that upset about not living up to Ash's example, all having found their true calling and are much happier not being Trainers. Any disappointment they felt, they've long since gotten over. So any claims of doing this for their children's benefit are nothing but bald-faced lies, something that the children are determined to take them to task for.

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* ItsAllAboutMe: This is essentially The kids' parents are upset at how their children didn't become Trainers like ''they'' wanted them to be, not caring about what the motivation of the parents group boils down to. It turns out kids themselves want, nor that they're perfectly content with their kids aren't that upset about not living up to Ash's example, all having found their true calling and are much happier not being Trainers. Any disappointment they felt, they've long since gotten over. So any claims of doing this for their children's benefit are nothing but bald-faced lies, something that the children are determined to take them to task for.callings.



** The reason Carl blames Ash for Kris's situation? He doesn't want to admit to himself that he caused Kris to get electrocuted because of his disappointment. The moment this is exposed to everyone, he insists that it was Kris' own fault for being a failure.
** He also declares that if anyone ''had'' gotten seriously hurt during the forest fire, it would have been the fault of Ash and his friends for [[FailureToSaveMurder not saving them]], as 'everything always turns out for the best when Ash is around'.

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** The reason Not only does Carl blames blame Ash for Kris's situation? He doesn't want to admit to himself that he caused Kris to get electrocuted because of situation, but when his disappointment. The moment this abuse is exposed to everyone, he insists that it was Kris' own fault Kris deserved it for being a failure.
** He also declares that if anyone ''had'' gotten seriously hurt during in the forest fire, it would have been the Ash's fault of Ash and his friends for [[FailureToSaveMurder not saving them]], as 'everything always turns out for the best when Ash is around'.around.'



* NotSoDifferentRemark: Carl attempts to invoke this with Chloe by claiming that ''she'' of all people would "understand" his feelings of resentment towards Ash. It doesn't work.

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* NotSoDifferentRemark: NotSoSimilar: Carl attempts to invoke this compare himself with Chloe by claiming reasoning that ''she'' of all people would "understand" his feelings of resentment towards they both resent Ash. It doesn't work.While Chloe does internally agree that she ''would'' have understood in the past, she had undergone given a hefty dose of CharacterDevelopment since then, and learned to move on from her biased views.



** Carl is ripped a new one once it's revealed that he abandoned Kris for being a "failure" when he wasn't able to gather all the badges before the Indigo League held its yearly session.

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** Carl is ripped a new one once it's revealed that he abandoned Kris for being a "failure" when he wasn't able to gather all the badges before enter the Indigo League held its yearly session.League.

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* AbusiveParents: Carl is revealed to have been one towards his son, berating him for [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter not measuring up to Ash's example]] and ordering him to return his Flareon, leaving him stranded in the power plant.

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* AbusiveParents: Carl is revealed to have been one towards berates his son, berating him son Kris for [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter not measuring up to Ash's example]] and ordering him to return his Flareon, leaving him stranded in the power plant.



* SkewedPriorities: Carl clearly doesn't give a Raticate's end about his son catching a ''[[OlympusMons Zapdos]]'', and instead chooses to tear into him for not entering the Indigo League.

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* ShadowArchetype: Carl is basically what Chloe would be if she never overcame her biases.
* SkewedPriorities: Carl clearly doesn't give a Raticate's end ass about his son catching a ''[[OlympusMons Zapdos]]'', and instead chooses to tear into him for not entering the Indigo League.



** Chloe calls out all of the adults who were willing to go along with Carl's schemes just for the sake of getting revenge on Ash. She receives plenty of backup from the children they were supposedly doing all this 'for'.
** Carl is ripped a new one once it's revealed that he abandoned Kris for being a 'failure' when he wasn't able to gather all the badges before the Indigo League held its yearly session.

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** Chloe calls out all of the adults who were willing to go along with Carl's schemes just for the sake of getting revenge on Ash. She receives plenty of backup from the children they were supposedly doing all this 'for'.
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** Carl is ripped a new one once it's revealed that he abandoned Kris for being a 'failure' "failure" when he wasn't able to gather all the badges before the Indigo League held its yearly session.

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* CriticalResearchFailure: InUniverse. Goh gets his first laugh in a while when he learns that the movie adaptation mixed him up with ''Yeardley''.


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* InUniverseFactoidFailure: Goh gets his first laugh in a while when he learns that the movie adaptation mixed him up with ''Yeardley''.
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* ItsAllAboutMe: This is essentially what the motivation of the parents group boils down to. It turns out that their kids aren't that upset about not living up to Ash's example, all having found their true calling and are much happier not being Trainers. Any disappointment they felt, they've long since gotten over. So any claims of doing this for their children's benefit are nothing but bold-faced lies, something that the children are determined to take them to task for.

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* ItsAllAboutMe: This is essentially what the motivation of the parents group boils down to. It turns out that their kids aren't that upset about not living up to Ash's example, all having found their true calling and are much happier not being Trainers. Any disappointment they felt, they've long since gotten over. So any claims of doing this for their children's benefit are nothing but bold-faced bald-faced lies, something that the children are determined to take them to task for.
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* NotSoDifferent: Carl attempts to invoke this with Chloe by claiming that ''she'' of all people would "understand" his feelings of resentment towards Ash. It doesn't work.

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* NotSoDifferent: NotSoDifferentRemark: Carl attempts to invoke this with Chloe by claiming that ''she'' of all people would "understand" his feelings of resentment towards Ash. It doesn't work.
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* NotSoSimilar: Carl attempts to invoke this with Chloe by claiming that ''she'' of all people would "understand" his feelings of resentment towards Ash. It doesn't work.

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* NotSoSimilar: NotSoDifferent: Carl attempts to invoke this with Chloe by claiming that ''she'' of all people would "understand" his feelings of resentment towards Ash. It doesn't work.

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* EveryoneHasStandards: Along with Carl, the adults at the Pallet Town block party blame Ash for ruining their children's futures and for being a skilled Pokémon trainer, believing they could never become as good as him. However, when they learn that Carl's plan to hurt Ash was to unleash a forest fire that could've potentially killed a dozen children, they are ''horrified''. And when it's revealed that Carl abandoned Kris and has been blaming Ash to avoid taking responsibility for the way he treated his son, they drop him like a rock.

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* EveryoneHasStandards: Along with Carl, the adults at the Pallet Town block party blame Ash for ruining their children's futures and for being a skilled Pokémon trainer, believing they could never become as good as him. However, when they learn that Carl's plan to hurt Ash was to unleash a forest fire that could've potentially killed a dozen children, they are ''horrified''. And when it's revealed that Carl abandoned Kris and has been blaming Ash to avoid taking responsibility for the way he treated mistreating his son, they drop him like a rock.



* LockedOutOfTheLoop: Konifer's information on Chloe is second-handed because his car doesn't have the Infinet so he had no idea that the real Chloe's been gone for a while.

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* LockedOutOfTheLoop: Konifer's information on Chloe is second-handed because his car doesn't have the Infinet Internet so he had no idea that the real Chloe's been gone for a while.



** It turns out Carl is blaming Ash for Kris's situation, because he doesn't want to admit to himself that he caused Kris to get electrocuted because of his disappointment. The moment this is exposed to everyone, he insists that it was Kris' own fault that he abandoned him for being a failure.

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** It turns out The reason Carl is blaming blames Ash for Kris's situation, because he situation? He doesn't want to admit to himself that he caused Kris to get electrocuted because of his disappointment. The moment this is exposed to everyone, he insists that it was Kris' own fault that he abandoned him for being a failure.



* NotSoSimilar: Carl attempts to invoke this with Chloe by claiming that ''she'' of all people would "understand" his feelings of resentment towards Ash. It doesn't work.



* WouldHurtAChild: On top of casually dismissing the danger posed by his forest fire scheme, Carl reacts to being exposed by attempting to punch Chloe in the face, right in front of Officer Jenny ''and'' her father.

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* WouldHurtAChild: On top of casually dismissing the danger posed by his forest fire scheme, Carl reacts to being exposed by attempting to punch Chloe in the face, physically assault Chloe, [[PapaWolf right in front of Officer Jenny ''and'' her father.
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* AbusiveParents: Carl is revealed to have been one towards his son, berating him for [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter not measuring up to Ash's example]] and ordering him to return his Flareon, leaving him stranded in the power plant.



* NeverMyFault: It turns out Carl is blaming Ash for Kris's situation, because he doesn't want to admit to himself that he caused Kris to get electrocuted because of his disappointment.

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* NeverMyFault: NeverMyFault:
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It turns out Carl is blaming Ash for Kris's situation, because he doesn't want to admit to himself that he caused Kris to get electrocuted because of his disappointment. disappointment. The moment this is exposed to everyone, he insists that it was Kris' own fault that he abandoned him for being a failure.
** He also declares that if anyone ''had'' gotten seriously hurt during the forest fire, it would have been the fault of Ash and his friends for [[FailureToSaveMurder not saving them]], as 'everything always turns out for the best when Ash is around'.



* WhatTheHellHero: Amelia calls Lexi out on his [[TookALevelInJerkass taking out his frustrations on the hapless Konifer and rubbing salt in Goh's wounds in the process.]]
--> “We will deal with it [the fake Chloe]! I’m upset too, believe me. But that does NOT excuse what you’re doing...both to a victim of some scammer and a victim of at least three traumatic experiences in a row! You are not the only person who misses Chloe on this train, so stop acting like this! Now. APOLOGIZE.”
* WhatWereYouThinking: Patricia asks of this of Carl when his envy of Ash led to him berating and emotionally abusing his son. She then asks how she and the rest Class 5-E could ever think listening to Sara over Chloe was a good idea. Trip answers that what they wanted was validation that their envy was more important than the fact that they were seriously hurting an innocent peron.

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* WhatTheHellHero: WhatTheHellHero:
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Amelia calls Lexi out on his [[TookALevelInJerkass taking out his frustrations on the hapless Konifer and rubbing salt in Goh's wounds in the process.]]
--> “We --->"We will deal with it [the fake Chloe]! I’m I'm upset too, believe me. But that does NOT excuse what you’re you're doing...both to a victim of some scammer and a victim of at least three traumatic experiences in a row! You are not the only person who misses Chloe on this train, so stop acting like this! Now. APOLOGIZE.
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** Chloe calls out all of the adults who were willing to go along with Carl's schemes just for the sake of getting revenge on Ash. She receives plenty of backup from the children they were supposedly doing all this 'for'.
** Carl is ripped a new one once it's revealed that he abandoned Kris for being a 'failure' when he wasn't able to gather all the badges before the Indigo League held its yearly session.
* WhatWereYouThinking: Patricia asks of this of Carl when his envy of Ash led to him berating and emotionally abusing his son. She then asks how she and the rest Class 5-E could ever think listening to Sara over Chloe was a good idea. Trip answers that what they wanted was validation that their envy was more important than the fact that they were seriously hurting an innocent peron.person.
* WouldHurtAChild: On top of casually dismissing the danger posed by his forest fire scheme, Carl reacts to being exposed by attempting to punch Chloe in the face, right in front of Officer Jenny ''and'' her father.

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* ItsAllAboutMe: This is essentially what the motivation of the parents group boils down to. It turns out that they're kids aren't that upset about not living up to Ash's example, all having found their true calling and are much happier not being Trainers. Any disappointment they felt, they've long since gotten over. So any claims of doing this for their children's benefit are nothing but bold-faced lies, something that the children are determined to take them to task for.

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* ItsAllAboutMe: This is essentially what the motivation of the parents group boils down to. It turns out that they're their kids aren't that upset about not living up to Ash's example, all having found their true calling and are much happier not being Trainers. Any disappointment they felt, they've long since gotten over. So any claims of doing this for their children's benefit are nothing but bold-faced lies, something that the children are determined to take them to task for.



* WhatWereYouThinking: Patricia asks of this of Carl when his envy of Ash led to him berating and emotional abusing his son. She then asks what she and the rest of Class 5-E were thinking siding with Sara and harassing Chloe was a good idea. Trip answers that what they wanted was validation that their envy was more important than the fact that they were seriously hurting Chloe.

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* WhatWereYouThinking: Patricia asks of this of Carl when his envy of Ash led to him berating and emotional emotionally abusing his son. She then asks what how she and the rest of Class 5-E were thinking siding with could ever think listening to Sara and harassing over Chloe was a good idea. Trip answers that what they wanted was validation that their envy was more important than the fact that they were seriously hurting Chloe.an innocent peron.
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* ItsAllAboutMe: This is essentially what the motivation of the parents group boils down to. It turns out that they're kids aren't that upset about not living up to Ash's example, all having found their true calling and are much happier not being Trainers. Any disappointment they felt, they've long since gotten over. So any claims of doing this for their children's benefit are nothing but bold-faced lies, something that the children are determined to take them to task for.

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* EveryoneHasStandards: Along with Carl, the adults at the Pallet Town block party blame Ash for ruining their children's futures and for being a skilled Pokémon trainer, believing they could never become as good as him. However, when they learn that Carl's plan to hurt Ash was to unleash a forest fire that could've potentially killed a dozen children, they are horrified. And when it's revealed that Carl abandoned Kris and has been blaming Ash to avoid taking responsibility for the way he treated his son, they drop him like a rock.

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* EveryoneHasStandards: Along with Carl, the adults at the Pallet Town block party blame Ash for ruining their children's futures and for being a skilled Pokémon trainer, believing they could never become as good as him. However, when they learn that Carl's plan to hurt Ash was to unleash a forest fire that could've potentially killed a dozen children, they are horrified.''horrified''. And when it's revealed that Carl abandoned Kris and has been blaming Ash to avoid taking responsibility for the way he treated his son, they drop him like a rock.



* NoodleIncident: Lexi starts bleeding red ink when he hears Konifer's "information" about Chloe. According to Connor, this happened once more when he was significantly pissed off.

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* NoodleIncident: Lexi starts bleeding red ink when he hears Konifer's "information" about Chloe. According to Connor, this happened once more when he was significantly pissed off.off.
* PlotParallel: The situation with Carl and the adults is essentially an older Sara with Class 5-E, an envious person stringing around others and festering ''their'' anger at someone who seemed to be better and hoping to ruin their reputation without a single thought about the consequences.



--> “We will deal with it [the fake Chloe]! I’m upset too, believe me. But that does NOT excuse what you’re doing...both to a victim of some scammer and a victim of at least three traumatic experiences in a row! You are not the only person who misses Chloe on this train, so stop acting like this! Now. APOLOGIZE.”

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--> “We will deal with it [the fake Chloe]! I’m upset too, believe me. But that does NOT excuse what you’re doing...both to a victim of some scammer and a victim of at least three traumatic experiences in a row! You are not the only person who misses Chloe on this train, so stop acting like this! Now. APOLOGIZE.
* WhatWereYouThinking: Patricia asks of this of Carl when his envy of Ash led to him berating and emotional abusing his son. She then asks what she and the rest of Class 5-E were thinking siding with Sara and harassing Chloe was a good idea. Trip answers that what they wanted was validation that their envy was more important than the fact that they were seriously hurting Chloe.
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* EveryoneHasStandards: The adults at the Pallet Town block party and Carl blame Ash for ruining their children's futures for being a skilled Pokémon trainer, believing their children could never become as good as him. Still, the parents are horrified to learn that Carl's plan to hurt Ash was to unleash a forest fire because that could've potentially ended with a dozen children dead. And when they find out about how Carl abandoned his son and has been blaming Ash so he could not have to take responsibility for the way he treated his son, they drop him like a rock.

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* EveryoneHasStandards: The Along with Carl, the adults at the Pallet Town block party and Carl blame Ash for ruining their children's futures and for being a skilled Pokémon trainer, believing their children they could never become as good as him. Still, the parents are horrified to However, when they learn that Carl's plan to hurt Ash was to unleash a forest fire because that could've potentially ended with killed a dozen children dead. children, they are horrified. And when they find out about how it's revealed that Carl abandoned his son Kris and has been blaming Ash so he could not have to take avoid taking responsibility for the way he treated his son, they drop him like a rock.
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* EveryoneHasStandards: The adults at the Pallet Town block party are horrified to learn that Carl's plan to hurt Ash was to ''unleash a forest fire'' because that could've potentially ended with a dozen children dead. And when they find out about how Carl abandoned his son, they drop him like a rock.

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* EveryoneHasStandards: The adults at the Pallet Town block party and Carl blame Ash for ruining their children's futures for being a skilled Pokémon trainer, believing their children could never become as good as him. Still, the parents are horrified to learn that Carl's plan to hurt Ash was to ''unleash unleash a forest fire'' fire because that could've potentially ended with a dozen children dead. And when they find out about how Carl abandoned his son and has been blaming Ash so he could not have to take responsibility for the way he treated his son, they drop him like a rock.
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* SkewedPriorities: Carl clearly doesn't give a Raticate's end about his son catching a [[OlympusMons ''Zapdos'']], and instead chooses to tear into him for not entering the Indigo League.

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* SkewedPriorities: Carl clearly doesn't give a Raticate's end about his son catching a [[OlympusMons ''Zapdos'']], ''[[OlympusMons Zapdos]]'', and instead chooses to tear into him for not entering the Indigo League.

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* NeverMyFault: It turns out Carl is transferring his blame for Kris' situation towards Ash, as he doesn't want to admit to himself that he caused Kris to get electrocuted because of his disappointment.

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* NeverMyFault: It turns out Carl is transferring his blame blaming Ash for Kris' situation towards Ash, as Kris's situation, because he doesn't want to admit to himself that he caused Kris to get electrocuted because of his disappointment.


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* SkewedPriorities: Carl clearly doesn't give a Raticate's end about his son catching a [[OlympusMons ''Zapdos'']], and instead chooses to tear into him for not entering the Indigo League.

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* NoodleIncident: Lexi starts bleeding red ink when he hears Konifer's "information" about Chloe. According to Connor, this happened once more when he was significantly pissed off.



--> “We will deal with [the fake Chloe]! I’m upset too, believe me. But that does NOT excuse what you’re doing...both to a victim of some scammer and a victim of at least three traumatic experiences in a row! You are not the only person who misses Chloe on this train, so stop acting like this! Now. APOLOGIZE.”

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--> “We will deal with it [the fake Chloe]! I’m upset too, believe me. But that does NOT excuse what you’re doing...both to a victim of some scammer and a victim of at least three traumatic experiences in a row! You are not the only person who misses Chloe on this train, so stop acting like this! Now. APOLOGIZE.”

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* CallBack: Miss Fisher mentions a raccoon thief that was on the Train before, referencing how Penelope Mouse heard of Sly being a passenger in ''Knight of the Orange Lily''

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* CallBack: CallBack:
** Sashay's advice about being BeneathSuspicion comes up again, as Jane's sunglasses and hat gets Lexi's attention and interest.
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Miss Fisher mentions a raccoon thief that was on the Train before, referencing how Penelope Mouse heard of Sly being a passenger in ''Knight of the Orange Lily''



* EveryoneHasStandards: The adults at the Pallet Town block party are horrified to learn that Carl's plan to hurt Ash was to ''unleash a forest fire'' because that could've potentially ended with a dozen children dead.

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* EveryoneHasStandards: The adults at the Pallet Town block party are horrified to learn that Carl's plan to hurt Ash was to ''unleash a forest fire'' because that could've potentially ended with a dozen children dead. And when they find out about how Carl abandoned his son, they drop him like a rock.

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* CallBack: Miss Fisher mentions a raccoon thief that was on the Train before, referencing how Penelope Mouse heard of Sly being a passenger in ''Knight of the Orange Lily''
* CoverInnocentEyesAndEars: Lexi covers Hazel's ears and Raboot uses his ears to cover his eyes when Miss Fisher starts...complimenting Sly.



* EngineeredPublicConfession: Chloe gets Carl to expose his plans to both officer Jenny and a recording device.

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* EngineeredPublicConfession: Chloe gets Carl to expose his plans to both officer Officer Jenny and a recording device.device.
* EveryoneHasStandards: The adults at the Pallet Town block party are horrified to learn that Carl's plan to hurt Ash was to ''unleash a forest fire'' because that could've potentially ended with a dozen children dead.



* NeverMyFault: It turns out Carl is transferring his blame for Kris' situation towards Ash, as he doesn't want to admit to himself that he caused Kris to get electrocuted because of his disappointment.



* NeverMyFault: It turns out Carl is transferring his blame for Kris' situation towards Ash, as he doesn't want to admit to himself that he caused Kris to get electrocuted because of his disappointment.

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* NeverMyFault: It turns out Carl StylisticSuck: The Dr. Killjoy movie is transferring his blame for Kris' situation towards Ash, as he doesn't want said to admit to himself that he caused Kris to get electrocuted because of his disappointment. be a black-and-white horror movie with "more practical effects than Ed Wood's filmography".
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* DoubleTake: When Konifer mentions how the real Chloe wears "pretty pink princess dresses", this sets up Lexi's anger more than ever since 1) Chloe ''hates'' being a princess and 2) Konifer is speaking in the ''present'' tense when everyone else knows that Chloe's gone at this point.


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* LockedOutOfTheLoop: Konifer's information on Chloe is second-handed because his car doesn't have the Infinet so he had no idea that the real Chloe's been gone for a while.

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* CriticalResearchFailure: Goh gets his first laugh in a while when he learns that the movie adaptation mixed him up with ''Yeardley''.

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\n* CriticalResearchFailure: InUniverse. Goh gets his first laugh in a while when he learns that the movie adaptation mixed him up with ''Yeardley''.
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* NeverMyFault: It turns out Carl is transferring his blame for Kris' situation towards Ash.

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* NeverMyFault: It turns out Carl is transferring his blame for Kris' situation towards Ash.Ash, as he doesn't want to admit to himself that he caused Kris to get electrocuted because of his disappointment.
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There's a new movie on the train, and Carl's plans fall apart once and for all.


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* CriticalResearchFailure: Goh gets his first laugh in a while when he learns that the movie adaptation mixed him up with ''Yeardley''.
* EngineeredPublicConfession: Chloe gets Carl to expose his plans to both officer Jenny and a recording device.
* InSeriesNickname: "Passenger Killers" are referred to as "Unsubs".
* LargeHam: The actor playing Dr. Killjoy in the film the group finally watches.
* RememberTheNewGuy: [[VideoGame/TheSuffering Dr. Killjoy]] is apparently well known in certain circles, but between being off the train for several decades and people being rather uncomfortable discussing him, Lexi and Amelia don't know much about him until they see his movie.
* NeverMyFault: It turns out Carl is transferring his blame for Kris' situation towards Ash.
* TheUnreveal: We don't actually see the 'Blossoming Trail' movie outside of second-hand sources, since neither Goh nor the Red Lotus is interested in watching for several reasons.
* WhatTheHellHero: Amelia calls Lexi out on his [[TookALevelInJerkass taking out his frustrations on the hapless Konifer and rubbing salt in Goh's wounds in the process.]]
--> “We will deal with [the fake Chloe]! I’m upset too, believe me. But that does NOT excuse what you’re doing...both to a victim of some scammer and a victim of at least three traumatic experiences in a row! You are not the only person who misses Chloe on this train, so stop acting like this! Now. APOLOGIZE.”

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