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* YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre: Frasier and Niles give this to each other at the end. Niles has a JerkassRealization about what an AttentionWhore he let himself become. Frasier assured him that there is nothing wrong with wanting to be seen for what you're good at, and Niles is an excellent psychiatrist. Frasier was beating himself up for misdiagnosing Safford. Niles told him that Safford is capable of being lucid for extended periods and that if Frasier was biased by anything it was his "desire to see old age not as a time of inevitable decline, but a time when your childhood dreams and wonders can be rediscovered" and it was good to have such a positive outlook.

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* YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre: Frasier and Niles give this to each other at the end. Niles has a JerkassRealization about what an AttentionWhore he let himself become. Frasier assured him that there is nothing wrong with wanting to be seen for what you're good at, and Niles is an excellent psychiatrist. Frasier was beating himself up for misdiagnosing Safford. Niles told him that Safford is capable of being lucid for extended periods and that if Frasier was biased by anything it was his "desire to see old age not as a time of inevitable decline, but a time when your childhood dreams and wonders can be rediscovered" and it was good to have such a positive outlook.outlook.
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The Crane brothers take opposite sides in a court of law after Niles is hired by the family of a wealthy octogenarian to testify that he is mentally mentally unfit during a televised trial. Frasier is sought out by the man for a second opinion, and determines that he is simply eccentric, deciding to testify in his defense.

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The Crane brothers take opposite sides in a court of law after Niles is hired by the family of a wealthy octogenarian to testify that he is mentally mentally unfit during a televised trial. Frasier is sought out by the man for a second opinion, and determines that he is simply eccentric, deciding to testify in his defense.

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* WrongfullyCommitted: Martin believes Safford’s heirs are attempting to wrongfully commit him so they can gain control over his estate. Frasier also believes this after speaking to the man and believing that he is merely eccentric and that he’s being punished simply for not acting how an adult “should” act. It turns out that no, he really is insane.

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* WrongfullyCommitted: Martin believes Safford’s heirs are attempting to wrongfully commit him so they can gain control over his estate. Frasier also believes this after speaking to the man and believing that he is merely eccentric and that he’s being punished simply for not acting how an adult “should” act. It turns out that no, he really is insane.insane.
* YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre: Frasier and Niles give this to each other at the end. Niles has a JerkassRealization about what an AttentionWhore he let himself become. Frasier assured him that there is nothing wrong with wanting to be seen for what you're good at, and Niles is an excellent psychiatrist. Frasier was beating himself up for misdiagnosing Safford. Niles told him that Safford is capable of being lucid for extended periods and that if Frasier was biased by anything it was his "desire to see old age not as a time of inevitable decline, but a time when your childhood dreams and wonders can be rediscovered" and it was good to have such a positive outlook.
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'''Frasier''': I just have to tell you that I found Harlow Safford to be of completely sound mind ''[Niles is clearly on the verge of exploding again]'' and don't say "What"!\\

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'''Frasier''': I just have to tell you that I found Harlow Safford to be of completely sound mind mind... ''[Niles is clearly on the verge of exploding again]'' again]'' ...and don't say "What"!\\

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* JerkassHasAPoint: Once the chaos of the hearing is over and both Crane brothers have experienced their humiliations, they admit the other had a point despite their petty behaviour; Frasier concedes that Niles' diagnosis of Safford was correct, while Niles admits that he really was just in the case because he was looking to be on television. Played with in the case of Safford's son, who we never meet and so never learn whether he was just a greedy jerk looking to secure his inheritance (as Martin believed) or whether he was genuinely worried about his father's alarming behaviour (as Niles claimed); however, either way it turns out he really did have cause for concern.

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* JerkassHasAPoint: Once the chaos of the hearing is over and both Crane brothers have experienced their humiliations, they admit the other had a point despite their petty behaviour; Frasier concedes that Niles' diagnosis of Safford was correct, while Niles admits that he really was just in the case because he was looking to be on television. Played with PlayedWith in the case of Safford's son, [[TheGhost who we never meet meet]] and so never learn whether he was just a greedy jerk looking to secure his inheritance (as Martin believed) or whether he was genuinely worried about his father's alarming behaviour (as Niles claimed); however, either way it turns out he really did have cause for concern. concern.
* LargeHam: In TheTag, Niles is delivering the oration he never got to do during the hearing, complete with rolled-up sleeves and fist waving - to a courtroom that's empty except for the bailiff, who reminds Niles that he's being paid to sit in the judge's chair and listen to him.
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* CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot: The entire conflict between the Cranes could have been avoided if, in any of their conversations on the subject, Niles had [[PoorCommunicationKills bothered to mention]] the part about Safford taking off his pants and trying to put them on the cat. Largely justified since it really is Niles' jealousy and desire to be publicly proven as right (and, once it arises, right over Frasier) that is fuelling his side of the conflict; he doesn't bring it up to give himself the opportunity to humiliate Frasier publicly.

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* CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot: The entire conflict between the Cranes could have been avoided if, in any of their conversations on the subject, Niles had [[PoorCommunicationKills bothered to mention]] the part about Safford taking off his pants and trying to put them on the cat. Largely justified since it really is Niles' jealousy and desire to be publicly proven as right (and, once it arises, right over Frasier) that is fuelling his side of the conflict; he likely doesn't bring it up to give himself the opportunity to humiliate Frasier publicly.
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* BadLiar: When called out on the fact that he's wearing make-up in an effort to look good for the cameras, Niles tries to pass it off as dermatological medication he's been prescribed for a skin complaint ("By Dr. Revlon?").
-->'''Frasier:''' Oh, by the way: your 'medication' is rubbing off onto your collar.


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* MeaningfulEcho: In their pre-hearing verbal joust, Niles gloats that his testimony cites half-a-dozen gerontology studies and includes quotations from sources ranging from the Bible and Herodotus -- "you might want to take notes!" Unfortunately for him, Frasier is nominated to speak first, and he immediately undercuts Niles by declaring that he has no intention to waste the time of the court with "dry statistics, gerontology studies, obscure literary references."
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'''Frasier''': I just have to tell you that I found Harlow Safford to be of completely sound mind... and don't say "What"!\\

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'''Frasier''': I just have to tell you that I found Harlow Safford to be of completely sound mind... mind ''[Niles is clearly on the verge of exploding again]'' and don't say "What"!\\

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* PyrrhicVictory: Niles is technically proven right when Safford has a mental breakdown during the middle of Frasier’s testimony. But this happens ''before'' he has the chance to testify on TV, which was what he actually wanted, so he ultimately just humiliated himself by whoring himself to the camera.

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* PyrrhicVictory: Niles is technically proven right when Safford has a mental breakdown during the middle of Frasier’s testimony. But this happens ''before'' he has the chance to testify on TV, which was what he actually wanted, so he ultimately just humiliated himself by whoring himself to the camera. Lampshaded, when Niles enters the courtroom while Frasier is brooding over events:
-->'''Frasier:''' Now, Niles, before you say anything let me just say this: you were right, I was wrong.\\
'''Niles:''' Big deal. No one got to ''see'' me being right.
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* DumbassHasAPoint: Downplayed, since Frasier isn't really dumb. However, once the hearing is over, he is naturally beating himself up over his inability to diagnose Safford's obvious dementia and asks Niles what the clue that gave him the insight into Safford's mental state was. Niles, by this point having suffered his own humiliations throughout the hearing, admits that the main reason he was able to diagnose Safford wasn't due to some penetrating psychological insight, but because Safford suffered an episode during their interview where he tried to take off his trousers and put them on the household cat. He then defends Frasier against his own self-rebuke by acknowledging that Safford is clearly still capable of significant moments of lucidity which could look make his mental deterioration look like simple eccentricities to someone who hadn't seen him at his worst.

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* DumbassHasAPoint: Downplayed, since Frasier isn't really dumb. However, once the hearing is over, he is naturally beating himself up over his inability to diagnose Safford's obvious dementia and asks Niles what the clue that gave him the insight into Safford's mental state was. Niles, by this point having suffered his own humiliations throughout the hearing, admits that the main reason he was able to diagnose Safford wasn't due to some penetrating psychological insight, but because Safford suffered an episode during their interview where he tried to take off his trousers and put them on the household cat. He then defends Frasier against his own self-rebuke by acknowledging that Safford is clearly still capable of significant moments of lucidity which could look make his mental deterioration look like simple harmless eccentricities to someone who hadn't seen him at his worst.
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* CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot: The entire conflict between the Cranes could have been avoided if, in any of their conversations on the subject, Niles had [[PoorCommunicationKills bothered to mention]] the part about Safford taking off his pants and trying to put them on the cat.

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* CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot: The entire conflict between the Cranes could have been avoided if, in any of their conversations on the subject, Niles had [[PoorCommunicationKills bothered to mention]] the part about Safford taking off his pants and trying to put them on the cat. Largely justified since it really is Niles' jealousy and desire to be publicly proven as right (and, once it arises, right over Frasier) that is fuelling his side of the conflict; he doesn't bring it up to give himself the opportunity to humiliate Frasier publicly.

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We don't really see Safford's attorney do anything amoral (whether he knows his client is incapable or not, he's been hired to act in his defence and nothing we see suggests he's doing anything but), and several of these are hypothetical in nature.


* AmoralAttorney: Mr. Giroux, Harlow Safford's lawyer, who recruits Frasier to testify that his client is perfectly sane. When Harlow starts acting up during the competency hearing, Mr. Giroux looks embarrassed, but not surprised, indicating he knew full well his client is a demented loon.



* JerkassHasAPoint: Once the chaos of the hearing is over and both Crane brothers have experienced their humiliations, they admit the other had a point despite their petty behaviour; Frasier concedes that Niles' diagnosis of Safford was correct, while Niles admits that he really was just in the case because he was looking to be on television.
** Martin is furious with Niles for helping Safford's ''"scum-sucking jerk"'' of a son get his father committed to get his hands on the family fortune; but if Martin saw Safford acting up during the court hearing, he might come around to Niles's view that the son is legitimately concerned for his father's well-being.
* NeverTheObviousSuspect: To Martin, it is stupidly obvious that Harlow Safford's son is wrongfully trying to get his father committed so he can get his hands on the family fortune before Harlow fritters it away; but when Harlow's dementia takes over during his competency hearing, the audience begins to credit Niles's claim that the son really is ''"worried sick"'' about his father.

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* JerkassHasAPoint: Once the chaos of the hearing is over and both Crane brothers have experienced their humiliations, they admit the other had a point despite their petty behaviour; Frasier concedes that Niles' diagnosis of Safford was correct, while Niles admits that he really was just in the case because he was looking to be on television.
** Martin is furious
television. Played with Niles for helping in the case of Safford's ''"scum-sucking jerk"'' of son, who we never meet and so never learn whether he was just a son get greedy jerk looking to secure his father committed to get his hands on the family fortune; but if inheritance (as Martin saw Safford acting up during the court hearing, believed) or whether he might come around to Niles's view that the son is legitimately concerned for was genuinely worried about his father's well-being.
* NeverTheObviousSuspect: To Martin,
alarming behaviour (as Niles claimed); however, either way it is stupidly obvious that Harlow Safford's son is wrongfully trying to get his father committed so turns out he can get his hands on the family fortune before Harlow fritters it away; but when Harlow's dementia takes over during his competency hearing, the audience begins to credit Niles's claim that the son really is ''"worried sick"'' about his father.did have cause for concern.
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* CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot: The entire conflict between the Cranes could have been avoided if, in any of their conversations on the subject, Niles had [[PoorCommunicationKills bothered to mention]] the part about Safford taking off his pants and trying to put them on the cat.


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* HollywoodLaw: In RealLife, Niles would have been required to prepare a full report explaining his diagnosis for Frasier to review before appearing in court, so Frasier would have known about Safford trying to put his pants on a cat before embarrassing himself with his misdiagnosis.
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* DidNotThinkThisThrough:
-->'''Martin''': Why are you walking funny?\\
'''Frasier''': Well, suffice it to say that today I learned that it is unwise to slide repeatedly down a fire pole wearing woolen trousers.


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* FailedASpotCheck: Averted. Frasier beats himself up for not noticing that Harlow Safford really is demented, and asks Niles what ''"subtle clue"'' he noticed that tipped him off. Niles deadpans that during their interview, Harlow took off his trousers and tried to put them on the house cat. Frasier feels better, as he is reasonably sure that if anything similar had occurred during his interview, he ''probably'' would have picked up on it.


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** After the hearing, Niles compliments Frasier on his positive outlook, wanting to see ageing as a graceful maturity rather than an inevitable decline.

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* AmoralAttorney: Mr. Giroux, Harlow Safford's lawyer, who recruits Frasier to testify that his client is perfectly sane. When Harlow starts acting up during the competency hearing, Mr. Giroux looks embarrassed, but not surprised, indicating he knew full well his client is a demented loon.



** Martin casts Niles as the Jerkass for helping Safford's ''"scum-sucking jerk"'' of a son get his father committed to get his hands on the family fortune; but if Martin saw Safford acting up during the court hearing, he might come around to Niles's view that the son is legitimately concerned for his father's well-being.

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** Martin casts is furious with Niles as the Jerkass for helping Safford's ''"scum-sucking jerk"'' of a son get his father committed to get his hands on the family fortune; but if Martin saw Safford acting up during the court hearing, he might come around to Niles's view that the son is legitimately concerned for his father's well-being.well-being.
* NeverTheObviousSuspect: To Martin, it is stupidly obvious that Harlow Safford's son is wrongfully trying to get his father committed so he can get his hands on the family fortune before Harlow fritters it away; but when Harlow's dementia takes over during his competency hearing, the audience begins to credit Niles's claim that the son really is ''"worried sick"'' about his father.
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** Martin casts Niles as the Jerkass for helping Safford's ''"scum-sucking jerk"'' of a son get his father committed to get his hands on the family fortune; but if Martin saw Safford acting up during the court hearing, he might come around to Niles's view that the son is legitimately concerned for his father's well-being.
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* BigWhat: This hilarious exchange between Frasier and Niles:
-->'''Frasier''': Just after the show today I was visited by a man named Mr. Giroux. He asked me to represent Mr. Safford.\\
'''Niles''': What?!\\
'''Frasier''': Given your involvement with the case, I naturally declined.\\
'''Niles''': Oh, thank God.\\
'''Frasier''': But, I did agree to see if I concurred with your analysis and speak to Mr. Safford.\\
'''Niles''': What?!\\
'''Martin''': Hey, keep it down!\\
'''Frasier''': I just have to tell you that I found Harlow Safford to be of completely sound mind... and don't say "What"!\\
'''Niles''': ...[[ExactWords Why?!]]
* BigWhy: See above.
* BothSidesHaveAPoint: Niles ridicules Frasier's diagnosis that Harlow Safford is perfectly sane, because Niles has seen Safford at his worst; Frasier argues that Niles's diagnosis was colored by his zeal to testify in a televised hearing, and given Niles's antics in front of the camera, it's hard to argue.
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* DumbassHasAPoint: Downplayed, since Frasier isn't really dumb. However, once the hearing is over, he is naturally beating himself up over his inability to diagnose Safford's obvious dementia and asks Niles what the clue that gave him the insight into Safford's mental state was. Niles, by this point having suffered his own humiliations throughout the hearing, admits that the main reason he was able to diagnose Safford wasn't due to some penetrating psychological insight, but because Safford suffered an episode during their interview where he tried to take off his trousers and put them on the household cat. He then defends Frasier against his own self-rebuke by acknowledging that Safford is clearly still capable of significant moments of lucidity which could look make his mental deterioration look like simple eccentricities to someone who hadn't seen him at his worst.


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* JerkassHasAPoint: Once the chaos of the hearing is over and both Crane brothers have experienced their humiliations, they admit the other had a point despite their petty behaviour; Frasier concedes that Niles' diagnosis of Safford was correct, while Niles admits that he really was just in the case because he was looking to be on television.
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* GrowingUpSucks: Pretty much the theme of the episode, although focusing on becoming elderly and not general adulthood. Frasier doesn’t like the idea that growing old is necessarily bad, and so interprets Safford’s oddities as him finally embracing his inner child after decades of hard work - and not the unfortunate reality that he’s succumbing to dementia and can no longer take care of himself.

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* GrowingUpSucks: Pretty much the theme of the episode, although focusing on becoming elderly and not general adulthood. Frasier doesn’t like the idea that growing old is necessarily bad, and so interprets Safford’s oddities as him finally embracing his inner child after decades of hard work - and not the unfortunate reality that he’s succumbing regressing to dementia and can no longer take care a child-like state because of himself.dementia.

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The Crane brothers take opposite sides in a court of law after Niles declares an eccentric man to be mentally unfit but Frasier is willing to advocate for him.

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The Crane brothers take opposite sides in a court of law after Niles declares an eccentric man is hired by the family of a wealthy octogenarian to be testify that he is mentally mentally unfit but during a televised trial. Frasier is willing to advocate sought out by the man for him.a second opinion, and determines that he is simply eccentric, deciding to testify in his defense.



* ScatterbrainedSenior: When Frasier meets the client, he's able to explain his earlier eccentric behavior in a logical manner, which makes Frasier think that Niles' diagnosis was wrong. Everything falls apart in the actual courtroom, when the client starts randomly acting like a train conductor before Niles can even present his findings.

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* AttentionWhore: Niles is elated at the concept of testifying in a televised court case. When the day comes he puts on makeup and obsessively plays up for the camera to the point of humiliation, and while he doesn’t actually get a chance to testify we can see that it was ridiculously long-winded, dramatic, and apparently only tangentially related to the case.
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* GrowingUpSucks: Pretty much the theme of the episode, although focusing on becoming elderly and not general adulthood. Frasier doesn’t like the idea that growing old is necessarily bad, and so interprets Safford’s oddities as him finally embracing his inner child after decades of hard work - and not the unfortunate reality that he’s succumbing to dementia and can no longer take care of himself.
* PyrrhicVictory: Niles is technically proven right when Safford has a mental breakdown during the middle of Frasier’s testimony. But this happens ''before'' he has the chance to testify on TV, which was what he actually wanted, so he ultimately just humiliated himself by whoring himself to the camera.
* ScatterbrainedSenior: When Safford has very childish and alarming obsessions - he eats candy and wears a firefighter hat, has a giant train outside his mansion, and prior to the episode he had been selling assets for a fraction of the price and rode across the country in a freight train with a group of bums. Understandably his family wants him committed. But when Frasier meets him the client, he's able man is lucid enough to explain his earlier eccentric behavior in a logical manner, which makes Frasier think convince him that Niles' diagnosis was wrong. he’s just trying to have fun in his twilight years and that his family are being unreasonable. Everything falls apart in the actual courtroom, when the client Safford breaks down and starts randomly acting like a train conductor before Niles can even present his findings.findings.
* WrongfullyCommitted: Martin believes Safford’s heirs are attempting to wrongfully commit him so they can gain control over his estate. Frasier also believes this after speaking to the man and believing that he is merely eccentric and that he’s being punished simply for not acting how an adult “should” act. It turns out that no, he really is insane.
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* ScatterbrainedSenior: When Frasier meets the client, he's able to explain his earlier eccentric behavior in a logical manner, which makes Frasier think that Niles' diagnosis was wrong. Everything falls apart in the actual courtroom, when the client starts randomly acting like a train conductor before Niles can even present his findings.

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