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* JerkassHasAPoint: Only from a RewatchBonus perspective, but after Season 4 revealed that Diane left Frasier at the altar and sent him into an alcohol-soaked tailspin, it became clear that Hester really did have a point.
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* JerkassHasAPoint: Only from a RewatchBonus perspective, but after Season 4 revealed that Diane left Frasier at the altar and sent him into an alcohol-soaked tailspin, it became clear that Hester really did have a point. The ''Series/{{Frasier}}'' episode "Don Juan In Hell" even has an ImagineSpot of her essentially telling Frasier IWarnedYou, even if Diane in the same dream reminds her of the vicious tactics she went about it ([[HypocriteHasAPoint and that she's also a hypocrite who cheated on her own husband]]).
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Hester seemingly makes peace with Diane in the end, only to then simply resort to shrewder tactics to break up the two such as bribing Sam to date Diane again (with increased desperation).
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Hester seemingly makes peace with Diane in the end, only to then simply resort to shrewder tactics to break up the two such as bribing Sam to date Diane again (with increased desperation).
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* RewatchBonus: There are hints throughout the run of the SpinOff show ''Series/{{Frasier}}'' that Hester Crane was not quite the saintly paragon of virtue her widower and sons remember her as, which is totally vindicated when rewatching the one and only time we see her in the flesh.
* RiddleForTheAges: If Hester Crane took such an instant (and in retrospect, totally justified) dislike to Diane, what on Earth happened when she met Maris?
* RiddleForTheAges: If Hester Crane took such an instant (and in retrospect, totally justified) dislike to Diane, what on Earth happened when she met Maris?
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* RewatchBonus: There are hints throughout the run of the SpinOff show ''Series/{{Frasier}}'' that Hester Crane was not quite the saintly paragon of virtue her widower and sons remember her as, which as. This is is totally vindicated when rewatching the one and only time we see her in the flesh.
* RiddleForTheAges: IfHester Crane Frasier's mom took such an instant (and in retrospect, totally completely justified) dislike to Diane, what on Earth happened when she met Maris?
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* RiddleForTheAges: If Hester Crane took such an instant (and in retrospect, totally justified) dislike to Diane, what on Earth happened when she met Maris? Also, are Niles and Maris already together at this point? If they are, Hester's hostility towards Diane would make a lot of sense, as she'd've already seen one of her sons get into a relationship with an unsuitable woman.
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* EveryManHasHisPrice: Subverted; no matter how much money Hester offers, Sam won't start dating Diane again.
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* EveryManHasHisPrice: Subverted; no matter how much money Hester offers, Sam won't start dating Diane again. Or so he claims, for now.
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* EveryManHasHisPrice: Subverted; no matter how much money Hester can give him, Sam won't start dating Diane again.
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* MeetTheInLaws: In true sitcom style, Diane is terrified to meet her prospective husband's mom. It turns out that she was right to be terrified as Hester threatens to kill Diane if she doesn't break it off with Frasier.
* RewatchBonus: There are hints throughout the run of SpinOff ''Series/{{Frasier}}'' that Hester was not quite the saintly paragon of virtue her widower and sons remember her as, which is totally vindicated when reviewing the one and only time we meet Hester in the flesh.
* RiddleForTheAges: If Hester Crane took such an instant (and in retrospect, totally justified) dislike to Diane, what on Earth happened when she met Maris?
* RewatchBonus: There are hints throughout the run of SpinOff ''Series/{{Frasier}}'' that Hester was not quite the saintly paragon of virtue her widower and sons remember her as, which is totally vindicated when reviewing the one and only time we meet Hester in the flesh.
* RiddleForTheAges: If Hester Crane took such an instant (and in retrospect, totally justified) dislike to Diane, what on Earth happened when she met Maris?
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* MeetTheInLaws: In true sitcom style, Diane is terrified to meet her prospective husband's mom. It turns out that she was right to be terrified as Hester threatens ''threatens to kill kill'' Diane if she doesn't break it off with Frasier.
* RewatchBonus: There are hints throughout the run of the SpinOff show ''Series/{{Frasier}}'' that Hester Crane was not quite the saintly paragon of virtue her widower and sons remember her as, which is totally vindicated whenreviewing rewatching the one and only time we meet Hester see her in the flesh.
* RiddleForTheAges: If Hester Crane took such an instant (and in retrospect, totally justified) dislike to Diane, what on Earth happened when she metMaris?Maris? Also, are Niles and Maris already together at this point? If they are, Hester's hostility towards Diane would make a lot of sense, as she'd've already seen one of her sons get into a relationship with an unsuitable woman.
* RewatchBonus: There are hints throughout the run of the SpinOff show ''Series/{{Frasier}}'' that Hester Crane was not quite the saintly paragon of virtue her widower and sons remember her as, which is totally vindicated when
* RiddleForTheAges: If Hester Crane took such an instant (and in retrospect, totally justified) dislike to Diane, what on Earth happened when she met
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Diane enters the bar in a state of high agitation, because that night, she will be meeting Frasier's mother for the very first time. Soon after Frasier arrives in the company of his mother, Hester Crane (Nancy Marchand, two years after the end of ''Series/LouGrant'' and 15 years before she played Livia on ''Series/TheSopranos''). The three of them have dinner upstairs at Melville's and return to Cheers for drinks. After Frasier steps away from their table to place the order, Hester gets Diane's attention and tells her directly: if she does not stop seeing Frasier, Hester will murder her. ("I have a gun, and I know how to use it.")
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Diane enters the bar in a state of high agitation, because that night, she will be meeting Frasier's mother for the very first time. Soon after Frasier arrives in the company of his mother, Hester Crane (Nancy Marchand, (Creator/NancyMarchand, two years after the end of ''Series/LouGrant'' and 15 years before she played Livia on ''Series/TheSopranos''). The three of them have dinner upstairs at Melville's and return to Cheers for drinks. After Frasier steps away from their table to place the order, Hester gets Diane's attention and tells her directly: if she does not stop seeing Frasier, Hester will murder her. ("I have a gun, and I know how to use it.")
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Episode: Season 3, Episode 8\\
Title: Diane Meets Mom\\
Directed by: Creator/JamesBurrows\\
Written by: Creator/DavidLloyd\\
Air Date: November 22, 1984\\
Previous: Coach in Love, Part 2\\
Next: An American Family\\
Guest Starring: Creator/KelseyGrammer, Creator/NancyMarchand]
"Diane Meets Mom" is the eighth episode of the third season of ''Series/{{Cheers}}''.
Diane enters the bar in a state of high agitation, because that night, she will be meeting Frasier's mother for the very first time. Soon after Frasier arrives in the company of his mother, Hester Crane (Nancy Marchand, two years after the end of ''Series/LouGrant'' and 15 years before she played Livia on ''Series/TheSopranos''). The three of them have dinner upstairs at Melville's and return to Cheers for drinks. After Frasier steps away from their table to place the order, Hester gets Diane's attention and tells her directly: if she does not stop seeing Frasier, Hester will murder her. ("I have a gun, and I know how to use it.")
In the B-plot, Norm tells Coach to make sure ''not'' to wish him a happy birthday and ''not'' sing "Happy Birthday to You" and that absolutely ''nothing'' important happened 36 years ago that day.
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!!Tropes:
* AllOfThem: The episode ends with Frasier confronting his mom and getting her and Diane to reconcile. But as they're leaving, Hester turns back to the bar and offers to write Sam a check if he'll start things up with Diane again. Sam is having none of it.
--> '''Sam''': You don't have enough money.\\
'''Hester''': How would you know?\\
'''Sam''': There ''isn't'' enough money.
* BluntYes: How Sam answers Diane when she goes to him for advice after Hester threatens her life.
-->'''Diane:''' Sam, I have to ask you a question. Promise me you won't make a joke out of it.\\
'''Sam:''' Yeah, I promise. What's up?\\
'''Diane:''' Do you think I'm crazy?\\
'''Sam:''' Yes.\\
'''Diane:''' Ha! Ha! Now that we've gotten the joke over, will you please help me? This is a strange question, but it's important. Do you think I'm crazy?\\
'''Sam:''' ''Yes''.
* BriarPatching: Norm is absolutely desperate for the Cheers gang to celebrate his birthday with him, even while pretending that he isn't.
--> '''Norm''': Don't make a fuss over me...no cakes, no candles, no party hats...
* JerkassHasAPoint: Only from a RewatchBonus perspective, but after Season 4 revealed that Diane left Frasier at the altar and sent him into an alcohol-soaked tailspin, it became clear that Hester really did have a point.
* MeetTheInLaws: In true sitcom style, Diane is terrified to meet her prospective husband's mom. It turns out that she was right to be terrified as Hester threatens to kill Diane if she doesn't break it off with Frasier.
* RewatchBonus: There are hints throughout the run of SpinOff ''Series/{{Frasier}}'' that Hester was not quite the saintly paragon of virtue her widower and sons remember her as, which is totally vindicated when reviewing the one and only time we meet Hester in the flesh.
* WhamLine: Frasier, Hester, and Diane come downstairs for drinks after what was apparently a pleasant enough dinner, even if MotorMouth Diane did monopolize the conversation. But when Frasier goes to the bar to order, Hester grabs Diane's arm and says this:
--> '''Hester''': Listen and listen carefully. Stop seeing my son, or as God is my witness I'll kill you.
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Episode: Season 3, Episode 8\\
Title: Diane Meets Mom\\
Directed by: Creator/JamesBurrows\\
Written by: Creator/DavidLloyd\\
Air Date: November 22, 1984\\
Previous: Coach in Love, Part 2\\
Next: An American Family\\
Guest Starring: Creator/KelseyGrammer, Creator/NancyMarchand]
"Diane Meets Mom" is the eighth episode of the third season of ''Series/{{Cheers}}''.
Diane enters the bar in a state of high agitation, because that night, she will be meeting Frasier's mother for the very first time. Soon after Frasier arrives in the company of his mother, Hester Crane (Nancy Marchand, two years after the end of ''Series/LouGrant'' and 15 years before she played Livia on ''Series/TheSopranos''). The three of them have dinner upstairs at Melville's and return to Cheers for drinks. After Frasier steps away from their table to place the order, Hester gets Diane's attention and tells her directly: if she does not stop seeing Frasier, Hester will murder her. ("I have a gun, and I know how to use it.")
In the B-plot, Norm tells Coach to make sure ''not'' to wish him a happy birthday and ''not'' sing "Happy Birthday to You" and that absolutely ''nothing'' important happened 36 years ago that day.
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!!Tropes:
* AllOfThem: The episode ends with Frasier confronting his mom and getting her and Diane to reconcile. But as they're leaving, Hester turns back to the bar and offers to write Sam a check if he'll start things up with Diane again. Sam is having none of it.
--> '''Sam''': You don't have enough money.\\
'''Hester''': How would you know?\\
'''Sam''': There ''isn't'' enough money.
* BluntYes: How Sam answers Diane when she goes to him for advice after Hester threatens her life.
-->'''Diane:''' Sam, I have to ask you a question. Promise me you won't make a joke out of it.\\
'''Sam:''' Yeah, I promise. What's up?\\
'''Diane:''' Do you think I'm crazy?\\
'''Sam:''' Yes.\\
'''Diane:''' Ha! Ha! Now that we've gotten the joke over, will you please help me? This is a strange question, but it's important. Do you think I'm crazy?\\
'''Sam:''' ''Yes''.
* BriarPatching: Norm is absolutely desperate for the Cheers gang to celebrate his birthday with him, even while pretending that he isn't.
--> '''Norm''': Don't make a fuss over me...no cakes, no candles, no party hats...
* JerkassHasAPoint: Only from a RewatchBonus perspective, but after Season 4 revealed that Diane left Frasier at the altar and sent him into an alcohol-soaked tailspin, it became clear that Hester really did have a point.
* MeetTheInLaws: In true sitcom style, Diane is terrified to meet her prospective husband's mom. It turns out that she was right to be terrified as Hester threatens to kill Diane if she doesn't break it off with Frasier.
* RewatchBonus: There are hints throughout the run of SpinOff ''Series/{{Frasier}}'' that Hester was not quite the saintly paragon of virtue her widower and sons remember her as, which is totally vindicated when reviewing the one and only time we meet Hester in the flesh.
* WhamLine: Frasier, Hester, and Diane come downstairs for drinks after what was apparently a pleasant enough dinner, even if MotorMouth Diane did monopolize the conversation. But when Frasier goes to the bar to order, Hester grabs Diane's arm and says this:
--> '''Hester''': Listen and listen carefully. Stop seeing my son, or as God is my witness I'll kill you.
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