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* CallBack: Lyta recounts what happened to her after she left the station [[Recap/BabylonFiveS02E19DividedLoyalties last time]]. She also says she's felt drawn to Vorlon space ever since [[Recap/BabylonFiveS01E00TheGathering scanning Kosh]].

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Lyta recounts what happened to her after she left the station [[Recap/BabylonFiveS02E19DividedLoyalties last time]]. She also says she's felt drawn to Vorlon space ever since [[Recap/BabylonFiveS01E00TheGathering scanning Kosh]].



** When offered to place a bet, Edward politely rebuffs that gambling is one of the lesser sins, and his opinion was that if you're going to sin, you should go for the one of the really big ones. If only he had any idea...

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** When offered to place a bet, Edward politely rebuffs that gambling is one of the lesser sins, and his opinion was that if you're going to sin, you should go for the one of the really big ones. If only he had any idea...



* ShoutOut: Charlie Dexter, and his two lives, are something of a homage to Creator/HPLovecraft's ''Literature/TheCaseOfCharlesDexterWard''.

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Charlie Dexter, and his two lives, are something of a homage to Creator/HPLovecraft's ''Literature/TheCaseOfCharlesDexterWard''.
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Londo accosts Lyta in the corridor. He tries to pump her for information on the Vorlons, which he would pay greatly for. When she blows him off he threatens to inform the Psi Corps about her, and she counters by threatening to plant a nightmare deep in the mind of whoever ratted her out, and make them spend the rest of their nights alive screaming. Londo watches he leave with a contemptuous "Fine!"

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Londo accosts Lyta in the corridor. He tries to pump her for information on the Vorlons, which he would pay greatly for. When she blows him off he threatens to inform the Psi Corps about her, and she counters by threatening to plant a nightmare deep in the mind of whoever ratted her out, and make them spend the rest of their nights alive screaming. Londo watches he her leave with a contemptuous "Fine!"
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-->'''Garibaldi''': Nobody's ever been to the Vorlon homeworld and back again, yet she goes and comes back like she just took a trip to the corner store. And now she's working for Kosh. is anybody else as creeped out about this as I am?

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-->'''Garibaldi''': Nobody's ever been to the Vorlon homeworld and back again, yet she goes and comes back like she just took a trip to the corner store. And now she's working for Kosh. is Is anybody else as creeped out about this as I am?
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* WhatYouAreInTheDark: Despite all the set up to allow them to do so most of the would-be avengers of Dexter's victims can't ultimately bring themselves to kill him. Sadly the ringleader doesn't relent.

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* WhatYouAreInTheDark: Despite all the set up to allow them to do so most of the would-be avengers of Dexter's victims can't ultimately bring themselves to kill him.Edward. Sadly the ringleader doesn't relent.
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* TheUnfettered: Lyta explains that since she's not in the Corps anymore, she doesn't have to follow their rules, and Londo better keep that in mind if he decides to tell them about her.

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* TheUnfettered: Lyta explains that since she's not in the Corps anymore, she doesn't have to follow their rules, and Londo better keep that in mind if he decides to tell them about her.her.
* WhatYouAreInTheDark: Despite all the set up to allow them to do so most of the would-be avengers of Dexter's victims can't ultimately bring themselves to kill him. Sadly the ringleader doesn't relent.
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** Edward's fate also foreshadows Kosh's.
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Edward is in his quarters when his search turns up something: Brother Edward was once Charles Dexter, the Black Rose Killer. He killed several women, put the roses in their mouths, was arrested and sentenced to death of personality. Garibaldi has found the same thing, and briefs Sheridan. Dexter was presumed killed during a fire, but survived, with a personality programmed to serve society, which he did by joining the monks. Furthermore, Edward already knows.

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Edward is in his quarters when his search turns up something: Brother Edward was once Charles Dexter, the Black Rose Killer. He killed several women, put the roses in their mouths, was arrested and sentenced to death of personality. Garibaldi has found the same thing, and briefs Sheridan. Dexter was presumed killed during a fire, but survived, with a personality programmed to want to serve society, which he did by joining the monks. Furthermore, Edward already knows.
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Brother Edward is negotiating with a business woman when he finds a black rose that fell from his bag. He's not sure how it got there.

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Brother Edward is negotiating with a business woman businesswoman when he finds a black rose that fell from his bag. He's not sure how it got there.
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* CrusadingWidower: The husbands, children etc. of the Black Rose Killer's past victims (who were apparently all women) come seeking vengeance on his new personality.

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* CrusadingWidower: CrusadingWidow: The husbands, children etc. of the Black Rose Killer's past victims (who were apparently all women) come seeking vengeance on his new personality.
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** When Lyta recounts how she tried entering Vorlon space, Garibaldi references how [[{{Recap/BabylonFiveS01E00TheGathering}} any ship entering Vorlon space have never come back]].

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** When Lyta recounts how she tried entering Vorlon space, Garibaldi references how [[{{Recap/BabylonFiveS01E00TheGathering}} any no ship entering Vorlon space have never has ever come back]].



** Kosh's ships docks in [[Recap/BabylonFiveS02E13HunterPrey Bay 13.]] And as was previously established, no one really goes there (ie near the end of the episode when Ivanova and Lyta emerge from the bay, the waiting area is empty).

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** Kosh's ships docks in [[Recap/BabylonFiveS02E13HunterPrey Bay 13.]] And as was previously established, no one really goes there (ie (i.e. near the end of the episode when Ivanova and Lyta emerge from the bay, the waiting area is empty).



** When offered to place a bet, Edward politely rebuffs that gambling is one of the lesser sins, and his opinion was that if you're going to sin, you should go for the greater ones. If only he had any idea...

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** When offered to place a bet, Edward politely rebuffs that gambling is one of the lesser sins, and his opinion was that if you're going to sin, you should go for the greater one of the really big ones. If only he had any idea...



* HighVoltageDeath: Discussed. Garibaldi says he sometimes wishes for the days of the electric chair, then says that ''electric bleachers'' would be more appropriate.

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* HighVoltageDeath: Discussed. Garibaldi says he sometimes wishes for the days of the electric chair, then says that ''electric bleachers'' would be more appropriate. [[note]]Joe Straczynski says he heard Jerry Doyle use that exact line at lunch one day, and decided he had to put it in a script.[[/note]]

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* ArtisticLicenseReligion - Catholic confession specifically addresses sins that the sinner has forgotten (since this is a frequent, practical concern). The more pressing issue would be that Brother Edward was coerced into wanting forgiveness.
** Brother Edward, the one who has only now become aware of his previous crimes, is the one most concerned about this. Brother Theo is far less concerned; he replies that even if Brother Edward doesn't remember, God does.

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Catholic confession specifically addresses sins that the sinner has forgotten (since this is a frequent, practical concern). The more pressing issue would be that Brother Edward was coerced into wanting forgiveness.
** *** Brother Edward, the one who has only now become aware of his previous crimes, is the one most concerned about this. Brother Theo is far less concerned; he replies that even if Brother Edward doesn't remember, God does.does.
*** It is never made clear if Theo was ordained as a priest or is merely a monk in a leadership role. According to current Catholic practice only a priest could hear confession, grant absolution, or give last rites. (Of course, that might have changed by the time the series takes place in the mid 23rd century).
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* AwfulTruth: Brother Edward discovering that he was mindwiped, has FakeMemories, and his original self was a SerialKiller.
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* BaitAndSwitch: The episode opens with Commander Ivanova and Brother Edward discussing the "dangerous situation" Sheridan is in; Ivanova saying he's "been through much worse" and Edward opining that he's "doomed". Turns out, Sheridan's just playing a game of chess with Brother Theo.
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** The ease with which Lyta was able to rip information out of the Centauri telepath's mind despite being a lowly P5 is a portent of [[TouchedByVorlons her later development]].

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** The ease with which Lyta was able to rip information out of the Centauri telepath's mind despite officially being a lowly P5 is a portent of [[TouchedByVorlons her later development]].

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* CrusadingWidower: The husbands, children etc. of the Black Rose Killer's past victims (who were apparently all women) come seeking vengeance on his new personality.



* HeWhoFightsMonsters: The family member (husband, brother or cousin not specified) of one of Edward's past victims becomes a cold blooded murderer in his quest for vengeance.

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* HeWhoFightsMonsters: The family member (husband, brother brother, son or cousin not specified) of one of Edward's past victims becomes a cold blooded murderer in his quest for vengeance.
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* HeWhoFightsMonsters: The husband/brother of one of Edward's past victims becomes a cold blooded murderer in his quest for vengeance.

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* HeWhoFightsMonsters: The husband/brother family member (husband, brother or cousin not specified) of one of Edward's past victims becomes a cold blooded murderer in his quest for vengeance.
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** Mindwipes have been referenced [[{{Recap/BabylonFiveS01E21TheQualityOfMercy}} before]] as a form of capital punishment.

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** Mindwipes have been referenced [[{{Recap/BabylonFiveS01E21TheQualityOfMercy}} before]] as a form of capital punishment. In the episode that introduced the concept, the planned mindwipe wasn't actually carried out as the criminal escaped and was then killed by Dr Rosen in self-defense. Now we get to see someone who has been through the process.
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** A conundrum regarding Death of Personality is highlighted: How can someone even seek forgiveness for their sins if their memory of them is intentionally wiped by the State? The episode's villain flips this dilemma on its head, and insists on restoring Edward's memory before getting revenge so that he will know why he is suffering.
* {{Gaslighting}}: When the messages on the wall and the threatening voices start appearing, Edward believes he is going crazy. After digging and finding out he used to be a murderer, he believes it is his past life resurfacing. Turns out, the messages were real, and the voices came through the PA system to try and harass him.

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** A conundrum regarding Death of Personality is highlighted: How how can someone even seek forgiveness for their sins if their memory of them is intentionally wiped by the State? The episode's villain flips this dilemma on its head, and insists on restoring Edward's memory before getting revenge so that he will know why he is suffering.
* {{Gaslighting}}: When the messages on the wall and the threatening voices start appearing, Edward believes he is going crazy. After digging and finding out he used to be a murderer, he believes it is his past life resurfacing. Turns out, out the messages were real, and the voices came through the PA system to try and harass him.
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Garibaldi's investigation hits a lucky break when someone tries to sell Edward's bag. The recorder he was using during his interview with Delenn was inside and he forgot to turn it off so it caught all the screams and everything he thought was in his head. Security also found a residue on his wall of a chemical that would resemble blood then vanish. It's clear someone is out to get revenge. But to restore his memories, they'd need a telepath, but Psi Corps has rules against that (and of course Minbari telepaths have a strict moral code). The only one it could have been is the Centauri Edward mentioned bumping into, as Centauri telepaths are more mercenary.

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Garibaldi's investigation hits a lucky break when someone tries to sell Edward's bag. The recorder he was using during his interview with Delenn was inside and he forgot to turn it off so it caught all the screams and everything he thought was in his head. Security also found a residue on his wall of a chemical that would resemble blood then vanish. It's clear someone is out to get revenge. But to restore his memories, they'd need a telepath, but Psi Corps has rules against that (and of course Minbari telepaths have a strict moral code). The only one it could have been is the Centauri Edward mentioned bumping into, as Centauri telepaths are more mercenary.
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Garibaldi's investigation hits a lucky break when someone tries to sell Edward's bag. The recorder he was using during his interview with Delenn was inside and he forgot to turn it off so it caught all the screams and everything he thought was in his head. Security also found a residue on his wall of a chemical that would resemble blood then vanish. It's clear someone is out to get revenge. But to restore his memories, they'd need a telepath, but Psi Corps has rules against that (and of course Minbari telepaths have a strict moral code). The only one it could have been is the Centauri Edward mentioned bumping into.

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Garibaldi's investigation hits a lucky break when someone tries to sell Edward's bag. The recorder he was using during his interview with Delenn was inside and he forgot to turn it off so it caught all the screams and everything he thought was in his head. Security also found a residue on his wall of a chemical that would resemble blood then vanish. It's clear someone is out to get revenge. But to restore his memories, they'd need a telepath, but Psi Corps has rules against that (and of course Minbari telepaths have a strict moral code). The only one it could have been is the Centauri Edward mentioned bumping into.
into, as Centauri telepaths are more mercenary.

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