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*WebAnimation/WolfSongTheMovie: Damien is this for the various wolves who have been forced to flee to the Barren Lands and essentially acts as a reasonable father figure for his own loose pack and his own character arc is largely centred on him reconciling with his estranged daughter. He might not be perfect, but he has good intentions and is willing to do anything if it means protecting his family and his pack, even calling out the alphas during the tournament scene for sitting back while the Death Alpha is busy subjugating an unknown though large number of packs, and is willing to sacrifice his own wellbeing if it means the Death Alpha's plan can be stopped
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* ''WebVideo/KanePixelsTheBackrooms'' features a {{downplayed|Trope}} case of this with ASYNC, the research institute attempting to investigate [[EldritchLocation The Backrooms]] for [[MundaneUtility potential storage and residential needs]]. Contrary to what you might expect from such a horror story, [[SubvertedTrope they stray away from many usual tropes]] associated with an EvilInc: their grunts are all reasonably well-equipped and take heavy safety precautions while exploring the Backrooms, they require all workers to report on injuries or other potentially anomalous activity that they might unknowingly bring back. When going over footage taken from one of their workers encountering an especially surreal and dangerous ''[[EldritchAbomination thing]]'', the researchers and advisors appear genuinely unsettled and concerned, sealing off the area of concern and adding more precautions to ensure future safety. Unfortunately, their reasonable [[GenreSavvy genre savvinness]] only goes so far considering [[JustThinkOfThePotential they're still trying to exploit the Backrooms]], [[BizarroApocalypse and reality begins to pay the price for it]].
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* ''WebVideo/KanePixelsTheBackrooms'' features a {{downplayed|Trope}} case of this with ASYNC, the research institute attempting to investigate [[EldritchLocation The Backrooms]] for [[MundaneUtility potential storage and residential needs]]. Contrary to what you might expect from such a horror story, [[SubvertedTrope they stray away from many usual tropes]] associated with an EvilInc: their grunts are all reasonably well-equipped and take heavy safety precautions while exploring the Backrooms, they require including requiring all workers to report on injuries or other potentially anomalous activity that they might unknowingly bring back. When going over footage taken from one of their workers encountering an especially surreal and dangerous ''[[EldritchAbomination thing]]'', the researchers and advisors appear genuinely unsettled and concerned, sealing off the area of concern and adding more precautions to ensure future safety. Unfortunately, their reasonable [[GenreSavvy genre savvinness]] only goes so far considering [[JustThinkOfThePotential they're still trying to exploit the Backrooms]], [[BizarroApocalypse and reality begins to pay the price for it]].
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* ''WebVideo/KanePixelsTheBackrooms'' features a {{downplayed|Trope}} case of this with ASYNC, the research institute attempting to investigate [[EldritchLocation The Backrooms]] for [[MundaneUtility potential storage and residential needs]]. Contrary to what you might expect from such a horror story, [[SubvertedTrope they stray away from many usual tropes]] associated with an EvilInc: their grunts are all reasonably well-equipped and take heavy safety precautions while exploring the Backrooms, they require all workers to report on injuries or other potentially anomalous activity that they might unknowingly bring back. When going over footage taken from one of their workers encountering an especially surreal and dangerous ''[[EldritchAbomination thing]]'', the researchers and advisors appear genuinely unsettled and concerned, sealing off the area of concern and adding more precautions to ensure future safety. Unfortunately, their reasonable [[GenreSavvy genre savvinness]] only goes so far considering [[JustThinkOfThePotential they're still trying to exploit the Backrooms]], [[BizarroApocalypse and reality begins to pay the price for it]].
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* In ''WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWallTheMovie'', Allen is Linkara's liaison with the government and tries his best to ensure that neither party gets in each other's way. He reveals in his first meeting with Linkara that he convinced his higher-ups not to assassinate Linkara once he got his hands on ''Comicron-1'' in exchange for his promise not to use it to influence political affairs, and eventually managed to talk them out of having professional snipers monitoring Linkara's apartment after he saved the world from the Entity.
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** Calm, level-headed and flexible, Professor [[BigGood Ozpin]] always pays attention to his students and takes any "extra-curricular", rule-bending or breaking in his stride. He offers Blake an open door for advice after implying he knows her White Fang links; he bends the rules to make use of Team RWBY's headstrong pursuit of villains, ensuring they gather intel while having trained protection. Raven later reveals that he used to do the same for Team STRQ, too. While the students [[CoolTeacher he's cool]], the adults are warier about whether he's doing the right thing. The heroes later [[BrokenPedestal turn on him]] after learning [[AwfulTruth his big secret]], but [[RebuiltPedestal eventually reconcile]] after he and they all learn a lesson in balancing doing the right thing with maintaining trust.
** A subverted example with General James Ironwood. He's initially a reasonable person, being supportive and encouraging of the protagonists during their sparse interactions through most of the series. Once Team RWBY arrives in Atlas and works with Ironwood professionally, it turns out he's actually stubborn, uncooperative, dismisses concerns about negative policy impacts, refuses approaches that share power and responsibility with those who aren't loyal to him, and his decisions are influenced by his PTSD. [[spoiler:Eventually, the pressure becomes too much for him and he descends into a villainous spiral that makes him [[HeWhoFightsMonsters as dangerous]] a threat as [[BigBad Salem]].]]
** Councilwoman Camilla notes there's no evidence that any kingdom is planning to attack Atlas, and Ironwood's embargo is hurting their relations with the other nations. When Sleet questions whether Ironwood's information could possibly be true, she deduces that no one would tell such an outlandish lie.
** A subverted example with General James Ironwood. He's initially a reasonable person, being supportive and encouraging of the protagonists during their sparse interactions through most of the series. Once Team RWBY arrives in Atlas and works with Ironwood professionally, it turns out he's actually stubborn, uncooperative, dismisses concerns about negative policy impacts, refuses approaches that share power and responsibility with those who aren't loyal to him, and his decisions are influenced by his PTSD. [[spoiler:Eventually, the pressure becomes too much for him and he descends into a villainous spiral that makes him [[HeWhoFightsMonsters as dangerous]] a threat as [[BigBad Salem]].]]
** Councilwoman Camilla notes there's no evidence that any kingdom is planning to attack Atlas, and Ironwood's embargo is hurting their relations with the other nations. When Sleet questions whether Ironwood's information could possibly be true, she deduces that no one would tell such an outlandish lie.
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** Calm, level-headed and flexible, Professor [[BigGood Ozpin]] always pays attention to his students and takes any "extra-curricular", rule-bending or breaking in his stride. He offers Blake Belladonna an open door for advice after implying he knows her White Fang links; he bends the rules to make use of Team RWBY's headstrong pursuit of villains, ensuring they gather intel while having trained protection. According to Raven later reveals that Branwen, he used to do the same for Team STRQ, too.STRQ. While the students [[CoolTeacher he's cool]], the adults are warier about whether he's doing the right thing. The Later, the heroes later [[BrokenPedestal turn on him]] after learning [[AwfulTruth his big secret]], but [[RebuiltPedestal eventually reconcile]] after he and they all learn a lesson in balancing doing the right thing with maintaining trust.
** A subverted example with General James Ironwood. He'sinitially introduced as a reasonable person, being supportive and encouraging of the protagonists during their sparse interactions through most of the series. Once Team RWBY arrives in Atlas and works with Ironwood professionally, it turns out he's actually stubborn, uncooperative, dismisses concerns about negative policy impacts, refuses approaches that share power and responsibility with those who aren't loyal to him, and his decisions are influenced by his PTSD. [[spoiler:Eventually, the pressure becomes too much for him and he descends into a villainous spiral that makes him [[HeWhoFightsMonsters as dangerous]] a threat as [[BigBad Salem]].]]
** Councilwoman Camilla notes there's no evidence that any kingdom is planning to attack Atlas, and Ironwood's embargo is hurting their relations with the other nations.When Sleet questions whether Ironwood's information could possibly be true, but she deduces that no one would tell such an outlandish lie.
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** A subverted example with General James Ironwood. He's initially a reasonable person, being supportive and encouraging of the protagonists during their sparse interactions through most of the series. Once Team RWBY arrives in Atlas and works with Ironwood professionally, it turns out he's actually stubborn, uncooperative, dismisses concerns about negative policy impacts, refuses approaches that share power and responsibility with those who aren't loyal to him, and his decisions are influenced by his PTSD. [[spoiler:Eventually, the pressure becomes too much for him and he descends into a villainous spiral that makes him [[HeWhoFightsMonsters as dangerous dangerous]] a threat as Salem.[[BigBad Salem]].]]
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** Calm, level-headed and flexible, [[BigGood Ozpin]] always pays attention to his students and takes any "extra-curricular", rule-bending or breaking in his stride. He offers Blake an open door for advice after implying he knows her White Fang links; he bends the rules to make use of Team RWBY's headstrong pursuit of villains, ensuring they gather intel while having trained protection. Raven later reveals that he used to do the same for Team STRQ, too. While the students [[CoolTeacher he's cool]], the adults are warier about whether he's doing the right thing. The heroes later [[BrokenPedestal turn on him]] after learning [[AwfulTruth his big secret]], but [[RebuiltPedestal eventually reconcile]] after he and they all learn a lesson in balancing doing the right thing with maintaining trust.
** A subverted example. Ironwood's initially a reasonable person, being supportive and encouraging of the protagonists during their sparse interactions through most of the series. After Team RWBY arrives in Atlas and works with Ironwood professionally, they learn he's only reasonable when it benefits him. He's stubborn, uncooperative, dismisses concerns about negative policy impacts, refuses approaches that share power and responsibility with those without absolute loyalty, and his decisions are influenced by his PTSD. [[spoiler:Eventually, the pressure becomes too much for him and he snaps, descending into a villainous spiral that makes him [[HeWhoFightsMonsters as dangerous]] a threat as [[BigBad Salem]].]]
** Councilwoman Camilla notes that there's no evidence that any kingdom is planning to attack Atlas, and Ironwood's embargo is hurting their relations with the other nations. When Sleet questions whether Ironwood's information could possibly be true, she states that she believes it, reasoning that no one would tell such an outlandish lie.
** A subverted example. Ironwood's initially a reasonable person, being supportive and encouraging of the protagonists during their sparse interactions through most of the series. After Team RWBY arrives in Atlas and works with Ironwood professionally, they learn he's only reasonable when it benefits him. He's stubborn, uncooperative, dismisses concerns about negative policy impacts, refuses approaches that share power and responsibility with those without absolute loyalty, and his decisions are influenced by his PTSD. [[spoiler:Eventually, the pressure becomes too much for him and he snaps, descending into a villainous spiral that makes him [[HeWhoFightsMonsters as dangerous]] a threat as [[BigBad Salem]].]]
** Councilwoman Camilla notes that there's no evidence that any kingdom is planning to attack Atlas, and Ironwood's embargo is hurting their relations with the other nations. When Sleet questions whether Ironwood's information could possibly be true, she states that she believes it, reasoning that no one would tell such an outlandish lie.
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** Calm, level-headed and flexible, Professor [[BigGood Ozpin]] always pays attention to his students and takes any "extra-curricular", rule-bending or breaking in his stride. He offers Blake an open door for advice after implying he knows her White Fang links; he bends the rules to make use of Team RWBY's headstrong pursuit of villains, ensuring they gather intel while having trained protection. Raven later reveals that he used to do the same for Team STRQ, too. While the students [[CoolTeacher he's cool]], the adults are warier about whether he's doing the right thing. The heroes later [[BrokenPedestal turn on him]] after learning [[AwfulTruth his big secret]], but [[RebuiltPedestal eventually reconcile]] after he and they all learn a lesson in balancing doing the right thing with maintaining trust.
** A subvertedexample. Ironwood's example with General James Ironwood. He's initially a reasonable person, being supportive and encouraging of the protagonists during their sparse interactions through most of the series. After Once Team RWBY arrives in Atlas and works with Ironwood professionally, they learn it turns out he's only reasonable when it benefits him. He's actually stubborn, uncooperative, dismisses concerns about negative policy impacts, refuses approaches that share power and responsibility with those without absolute loyalty, who aren't loyal to him, and his decisions are influenced by his PTSD. [[spoiler:Eventually, the pressure becomes too much for him and he snaps, descending descends into a villainous spiral that makes him [[HeWhoFightsMonsters as dangerous]] dangerous a threat as [[BigBad Salem]].Salem.]]
** Councilwoman Camilla notesthat there's no evidence that any kingdom is planning to attack Atlas, and Ironwood's embargo is hurting their relations with the other nations. When Sleet questions whether Ironwood's information could possibly be true, she states that she believes it, reasoning deduces that no one would tell such an outlandish lie.
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** Calm, level-headed and flexible, [[BigGood Ozpin]] always pays attention to his students and takes any "extra-curricular", rule-bending or breaking in his stride. He implies he knows about Blake's White Fang links, offering her offers Blake an open door should she need advice. He also makes for advice after implying he knows her White Fang links; he bends the rules to make use of Team RWBY's headstrong insistence pursuit of fighting the villains in ways that ensures villains, ensuring they still have gather intel while having trained Huntsmen nearby to help them if they get into too much trouble. protection. Raven later confirms reveals that Ozpin he used to do the same laid-back approach with for Team STRQ, too. While the students think [[CoolTeacher he's cool]], the adults are warier about whether he's doing the right thing; the thing. The heroes later [[BrokenPedestal turn on him]] after learning [[AwfulTruth his big secret]], but [[RebuiltPedestal eventually reconcile]] with him after he and they all learn a lesson in balancing doing the right thing versus the best thing while with maintaining trust.
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** Calm, level-headed and flexible, [[BigGood Ozpin]] always pays attention to his students and takes any "extra-curricular", rule-bending or breaking in his stride. He implies he knows about Blake's White Fang links, offering her an open door should she need advice. He also makes use of Team RWBY's headstrong insistence of fighting the villains in ways that ensures they still have trained Huntsmen nearby to help them if they get into too much trouble. Raven later confirms that Ozpin used the same laid-back approach with Team STRQ, too. While the students think [[CoolTeacher he's cool]], the adults are warier about whether he's doing the right thing; the heroes later [[BrokenPedestal turn on him]] after learning [[AwfulTruth his big secret]], but [[RebuiltPedestal eventually reconcile]] with him after both he and they learn some hard lessons in how to balance doing the right thing versus the best thing while maintaining trust.
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** Calm, level-headed and flexible, [[BigGood Ozpin]] always pays attention to his students and takes any "extra-curricular", rule-bending or breaking in his stride. He implies he knows about Blake's White Fang links, offering her an open door should she need advice. He also makes use of Team RWBY's headstrong insistence of fighting the villains in ways that ensures they still have trained Huntsmen nearby to help them if they get into too much trouble. Raven later confirms that Ozpin used the same laid-back approach with Team STRQ, too. While the students think [[CoolTeacher he's cool]], the adults are warier about whether he's doing the right thing; the heroes later [[BrokenPedestal turn on him]] after learning [[AwfulTruth his big secret]], but [[RebuiltPedestal eventually reconcile]] with him after both he and they all learn some hard lessons a lesson in how to balance balancing doing the right thing versus the best thing while maintaining trust.
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** The Beacon staff all seem to be very tolerant of extra-curricular activities and approachable mentor figures. Professor Ozpin in particular is very perceptive about things the heroes want to keep hidden, such as Team RWBY investigating the White Fang and Torchwick, as well as Blake being a faunus. He is mostly willing to overlook rule breaking and even borderline-criminal activities if the student in question truly has good reason for doing so. He is also very kindly and is always prepared to offer advice to his students, even in personal matters a teacher need not necessarily pay attention to.
*** On the other hand, Ozpin's behaviour may actually not be entirely benevolent, making him a subversion. He has had pupils die on his watch in the past, and Raven implies that this may be due to them being manipulated by him into doing his bidding when they think they're acting of their own free will. She even goes so far as to hint that he has a tendency to take an unhealthy interest in one or two particularly good teams in a given intake and bend the rules for them so they can operate as off-the-book agents for him, even though the students in question may not realise that it's even happening. Cinder describes him as arrogant, a description apparently given to him by Salem, [[spoiler:his ex-lover, who he's been fighting a secret HopelessWar with for centuries. When the heroes learn the truth of this, their faith in Ozpin is permanently damaged and they can barely trust him with anything. At the end of the day, Ozpin had his good intents, but is just another flawed man.]]
** General Ironwood is another subversion. At first, he ''seems'' reasonable, being supportive and encouraging of the protagonists during their sparse interactions through most of the series. But once the RWBY gang make it to Atlas and start working with Ironwood consistently in Volume 7, it becomes apparent how stubborn and uncooperative Ironwood really is; He frequently dismisses their concerns of how his policies are negatively impacting his kingdom, refuses to consider any approach that involves sharing power and responsibility with anyone not completely loyal to him, and its shown that his decisions are tainted by his PTSD. Ironwood is only "reasonable" when it serves him to be so. [[spoiler:Once he learns that Salem is going to attack the kingdom personally, Ironwood snaps and becomes HeWhoFightsMonsters, willing to sacrifice an entire city to save himself and his forces, while demanding the heroes arrested for disagreeing. He even goes as far as to shoot Oscar for comparing him to Salem.]]
*** On the other hand, Ozpin's behaviour may actually not be entirely benevolent, making him a subversion. He has had pupils die on his watch in the past, and Raven implies that this may be due to them being manipulated by him into doing his bidding when they think they're acting of their own free will. She even goes so far as to hint that he has a tendency to take an unhealthy interest in one or two particularly good teams in a given intake and bend the rules for them so they can operate as off-the-book agents for him, even though the students in question may not realise that it's even happening. Cinder describes him as arrogant, a description apparently given to him by Salem, [[spoiler:his ex-lover, who he's been fighting a secret HopelessWar with for centuries. When the heroes learn the truth of this, their faith in Ozpin is permanently damaged and they can barely trust him with anything. At the end of the day, Ozpin had his good intents, but is just another flawed man.]]
** General Ironwood is another subversion. At first, he ''seems'' reasonable, being supportive and encouraging of the protagonists during their sparse interactions through most of the series. But once the RWBY gang make it to Atlas and start working with Ironwood consistently in Volume 7, it becomes apparent how stubborn and uncooperative Ironwood really is; He frequently dismisses their concerns of how his policies are negatively impacting his kingdom, refuses to consider any approach that involves sharing power and responsibility with anyone not completely loyal to him, and its shown that his decisions are tainted by his PTSD. Ironwood is only "reasonable" when it serves him to be so. [[spoiler:Once he learns that Salem is going to attack the kingdom personally, Ironwood snaps and becomes HeWhoFightsMonsters, willing to sacrifice an entire city to save himself and his forces, while demanding the heroes arrested for disagreeing. He even goes as far as to shoot Oscar for comparing him to Salem.]]
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**General Ironwood is another subversion. At first, he ''seems'' reasonable, being supportive and encouraging of the protagonists during their sparse interactions through most of the series. But once the RWBY gang make it to Atlas and start working with Ironwood consistently in Volume 7, it becomes apparent how stubborn and uncooperative Ironwood really is; He frequently dismisses their concerns of how his policies are negatively impacting his kingdom, refuses to consider any approach Councilwoman Camilla notes that involves sharing power and responsibility with anyone not completely loyal to him, and its shown there's no evidence that his decisions are tainted by his PTSD. Ironwood any kingdom is only "reasonable" when it serves him to be so. [[spoiler:Once he learns that Salem is going planning to attack Atlas, and Ironwood's embargo is hurting their relations with the kingdom personally, Ironwood snaps and becomes HeWhoFightsMonsters, willing to sacrifice other nations. When Sleet questions whether Ironwood's information could possibly be true, she states that she believes it, reasoning that no one would tell such an entire city to save himself and his forces, while demanding the heroes arrested for disagreeing. He even goes as far as to shoot Oscar for comparing him to Salem.]]outlandish lie.
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* The "Denazra" plot line produced by ''WebVideo/NatOneProductions' invokes this trope frequently. While there's a fair amount of [[VastBureaucracy inefficiency and dithering]], the Coalition generally seems to be a benevolent organization trying to get a bunch of different species to join together and fight against a [[RobotWar common foe]]. Unfortunately, they're still losing.
* Both the headmistress and the head of Security at [[SuperheroSchool Whateley Academy]] in the ''Literature/WhateleyUniverse''. The headmistress turns out to be one of the great superheroines of the 20th century, and the head of security turns out to be a highly trained ex-special Forces military expert. So maybe the people who hired these guys count too.
* Both the headmistress and the head of Security at [[SuperheroSchool Whateley Academy]] in the ''Literature/WhateleyUniverse''. The headmistress turns out to be one of the great superheroines of the 20th century, and the head of security turns out to be a highly trained ex-special Forces military expert. So maybe the people who hired these guys count too.
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* In ''WebAnimation/IfTheEmperorHadATextToSpeechDevice'', the Emperor himself. Bitter and caustic as he may be, he's genuinely upset at what has become of the Imperium and is slowly trying to put it back the way it was before the Horus Heresy, even considering letting the aliens join his nation (manly ones that do melee,though, disqualifying the Tau despite their other desireable traits).
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* The Lord ''WebVideo/EpicRapBattlesOfHistory'': [[spoiler:In "Barack Obama vs. Mitt Romney", when the two devolve into childish insults, UsefulNotes/AbrahamLincoln interrupts and reroutes the debate back to the actual issues at hand, then accurately assesses the faults of both sides while also acknowledging the valid points they make. Three seasons later, he interrupts again in "Donald Trump vs. Hillary Clinton" to shut down Trump's blatantly racist rant, and also chews out Hillary for assuming that Trump's campaign would self-destruct without her having to put up a real fight.]] In general, of the Supreme Council authority figures shown in ''Literature/TheQuestportChronicles''.
the series, Lincoln is the one portrayed most sympathetically and the one who seems most fit to be in charge. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And he refuses to make fun of a show without watching it first.]]
* ''Literature/HeroesSaveTheWorld'': Several of the Children have approached adults about what is happening. While they were met with disbelief, this gave way to acceptance after receiving proof of superpowers.
* In ''WebAnimation/IfTheEmperorHadATextToSpeechDevice'', the Emperor himself. Bitter and caustic as he may be, he's genuinely upset at what has become of the Imperium and is slowly trying to put it back the way it was before the Horus Heresy, even considering letting the aliens join his nation (manly ones that do melee,though, disqualifying the Tau despite their otherdesireable desirable traits).
* ''Literature/HeroesSaveTheWorld'': Several of the Children have approached adults about what is happening. While they were met with disbelief, this gave way to acceptance after receiving proof of superpowers.
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* A large part ''LetsPlay/{{Mahu}}'': Though they are often cold and calculating, most of the rulers of both the Commonwealth Republic of "Crownless Eagle" and the Galactic Commonwealth of "Second Chance" are reasonable people seeking only the best for their nations.
* The "Denazra" plot line produced by ''WebVideo/NatOneProductions' invokes this trope frequently. While there's a fair amount of [[VastBureaucracy inefficiency and dithering]], the Coalition generally seems to be a benevolent organization trying to get a bunch of different species to join together and fight against a [[RobotWar common foe]]. Unfortunately, they're still losing.
* ''WebVideo/NightmareTime'': Duke is by far one of the most competent adults in the {{Franchise/Hatchetfield}} multiverse. He's a social worker who not only makes every effort to help [[MysteriousWaif Hannah]] in her abusive home, but also believes her when she describes her supernatural experiences to him, and brings in his friend Miss Holloway, since she's a witch and thus far more equipped to deal with this sort of thing than he is. He also believes in Lex's innocence when she's forced to take the fall for her mother's criminal activities, and complies with her wishes to not have Hannah put into foster care, despite how terrible their home life is, understanding that given her experiences, Lex has every reason not to trust the system, or people who work for it, like him. He realizes thatSkitter became a VillainProtagonist Lex is probably right that being forced into foster care be even worse for Hannah's well-being, and instead focuses his energy on making her home life bearable.
* Arthéon from ''Franchise/{{Noob}}'' seems to be this. Notably, he and his RagtagBunchOfMisfits guild ended up involved in''Literature/{{Worm}}'' was the second novel's plot because none he was willing to follow a lead given by a random player nobody else was believing.
* The Lord of theauthority figures she ever encountered were reasonable. That said, Miss Militia, a superhero Supreme Council in [[TheCity Brockton Bay]] promoted to lead the local superhero team after her predecessor's retirement, is unquestionably evenhanded and responsible.''Literature/TheQuestportChronicles''.
* The "Denazra" plot line produced by ''WebVideo/NatOneProductions' invokes this trope frequently. While there's a fair amount of [[VastBureaucracy inefficiency and dithering]], the Coalition generally seems to be a benevolent organization trying to get a bunch of different species to join together and fight against a [[RobotWar common foe]]. Unfortunately, they're still losing.
* ''WebVideo/NightmareTime'': Duke is by far one of the most competent adults in the {{Franchise/Hatchetfield}} multiverse. He's a social worker who not only makes every effort to help [[MysteriousWaif Hannah]] in her abusive home, but also believes her when she describes her supernatural experiences to him, and brings in his friend Miss Holloway, since she's a witch and thus far more equipped to deal with this sort of thing than he is. He also believes in Lex's innocence when she's forced to take the fall for her mother's criminal activities, and complies with her wishes to not have Hannah put into foster care, despite how terrible their home life is, understanding that given her experiences, Lex has every reason not to trust the system, or people who work for it, like him. He realizes that
* Arthéon from ''Franchise/{{Noob}}'' seems to be this. Notably, he and his RagtagBunchOfMisfits guild ended up involved in
* The Lord of the
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* Arthéon from ''Franchise/{{Noob}}'' seems to be this. Notably, he and his RagtagBunchOfMisfits guild ended up involved in the second novel's plot because he was willing to follow a lead given by a random player nobody else was believing.
* ''WebVideo/EpicRapBattlesOfHistory'': [[spoiler:In "Barack Obama vs. Mitt Romney", when the two devolve into childish insults, UsefulNotes/AbrahamLincoln interrupts and reroutes the debate back to the actual issues at hand, then accurately assesses the faults of both sides while also acknowledging the valid points they make. Three seasons later, he interrupts again in "Donald Trump vs. Hillary Clinton" to shut down Trump's blatantly racist rant, and also chews out Hillary for assuming that Trump's campaign would self-destruct without her having to put up a real fight.]] In general, of the authority figures shown in the series, Lincoln is the one portrayed most sympathetically and the one who seems most fit to be in charge. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And he refuses to make fun of a show without watching it first.]]
* ''Literature/HeroesSaveTheWorld'': Several of the Children have approached adults about what is happening. While they were met with disbelief, this gave way to acceptance after receiving proof of superpowers.
* ''LetsPlay/{{Mahu}}'': Though they are often cold and calculating, most of the rulers of both the Commonwealth Republic of "Crownless Eagle" and the Galactic Commonwealth of "Second Chance" are reasonable people seeking only the best for their nations.
* ''WebVideo/NightmareTime'': Duke is by far one of the most competent adults in the {{Franchise/Hatchetfield}} multiverse. He's a social worker who not only makes every effort to help [[MysteriousWaif Hannah]] in her abusive home, but also believes her when she describes her supernatural experiences to him, and brings in his friend Miss Holloway, since she's a witch and thus far more equipped to deal with this sort of thing than he is. He also believes in Lex's innocence when she's forced to take the fall for her mother's criminal activities, and complies with her wishes to not have Hannah put into foster care, despite how terrible their home life is, understanding that given her experiences, Lex has every reason not to trust the system, or people who work for it, like him. He realizes that Lex is probably right that being forced into foster care be even worse for Hannah's wellbeing, and instead focuses his energy on making her home life bearable.
* ''WebVideo/EpicRapBattlesOfHistory'': [[spoiler:In "Barack Obama vs. Mitt Romney", when the two devolve into childish insults, UsefulNotes/AbrahamLincoln interrupts and reroutes the debate back to the actual issues at hand, then accurately assesses the faults of both sides while also acknowledging the valid points they make. Three seasons later, he interrupts again in "Donald Trump vs. Hillary Clinton" to shut down Trump's blatantly racist rant, and also chews out Hillary for assuming that Trump's campaign would self-destruct without her having to put up a real fight.]] In general, of the authority figures shown in the series, Lincoln is the one portrayed most sympathetically and the one who seems most fit to be in charge. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And he refuses to make fun of a show without watching it first.]]
* ''Literature/HeroesSaveTheWorld'': Several of the Children have approached adults about what is happening. While they were met with disbelief, this gave way to acceptance after receiving proof of superpowers.
* ''LetsPlay/{{Mahu}}'': Though they are often cold and calculating, most of the rulers of both the Commonwealth Republic of "Crownless Eagle" and the Galactic Commonwealth of "Second Chance" are reasonable people seeking only the best for their nations.
* ''WebVideo/NightmareTime'': Duke is by far one of the most competent adults in the {{Franchise/Hatchetfield}} multiverse. He's a social worker who not only makes every effort to help [[MysteriousWaif Hannah]] in her abusive home, but also believes her when she describes her supernatural experiences to him, and brings in his friend Miss Holloway, since she's a witch and thus far more equipped to deal with this sort of thing than he is. He also believes in Lex's innocence when she's forced to take the fall for her mother's criminal activities, and complies with her wishes to not have Hannah put into foster care, despite how terrible their home life is, understanding that given her experiences, Lex has every reason not to trust the system, or people who work for it, like him. He realizes that Lex is probably right that being forced into foster care be even worse for Hannah's wellbeing, and instead focuses his energy on making her home life bearable.
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* Arthéon from ''Franchise/{{Noob}}'' seems to be this. Notably, he Both the headmistress and his RagtagBunchOfMisfits guild ended up involved the head of Security at [[SuperheroSchool Whateley Academy]] in the second novel's plot ''Literature/WhateleyUniverse''. The headmistress turns out to be one of the great superheroines of the 20th century, and the head of security turns out to be a highly trained ex-special Forces military expert. So maybe the people who hired these guys count, too.
* A large part of the reason that Skitter became a VillainProtagonist in ''Literature/{{Worm}}'' was becausehe was willing to follow a lead given by a random player nobody else was believing.
* ''WebVideo/EpicRapBattlesOfHistory'': [[spoiler:In "Barack Obama vs. Mitt Romney", when the two devolve into childish insults, UsefulNotes/AbrahamLincoln interrupts and reroutes the debate back to the actual issues at hand, then accurately assesses the faults of both sides while also acknowledging the valid points they make. Three seasons later, he interrupts again in "Donald Trump vs. Hillary Clinton" to shut down Trump's blatantly racist rant, and also chews out Hillary for assuming that Trump's campaign would self-destruct without her having to put up a real fight.]] In general,none of the authority figures shown in the series, Lincoln is the one portrayed most sympathetically and the one who seems most fit to be in charge. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And he refuses to make fun of a show without watching it first.]]
* ''Literature/HeroesSaveTheWorld'': Several of the Children have approached adults about what is happening. While theyshe ever encountered were met with disbelief, this gave way reasonable. That said, Miss Militia, a superhero in [[TheCity Brockton Bay]] promoted to acceptance lead the local superhero team after receiving proof of superpowers.
* ''LetsPlay/{{Mahu}}'': Though they are often coldher predecessor's retirement, is unquestionably evenhanded and calculating, most of the rulers of both the Commonwealth Republic of "Crownless Eagle" and the Galactic Commonwealth of "Second Chance" are reasonable people seeking only the best for their nations.
* ''WebVideo/NightmareTime'': Duke is by far one of the most competent adults in the {{Franchise/Hatchetfield}} multiverse. He's a social worker who not only makes every effort to help [[MysteriousWaif Hannah]] in her abusive home, but also believes her when she describes her supernatural experiences to him, and brings in his friend Miss Holloway, since she's a witch and thus far more equipped to deal with this sort of thing than he is. He also believes in Lex's innocence when she's forced to take the fall for her mother's criminal activities, and complies with her wishes to not have Hannah put into foster care, despite how terrible their home life is, understanding that given her experiences, Lex has every reason not to trust the system, or people who work for it, like him. He realizes that Lex is probably right that being forced into foster care be even worse for Hannah's wellbeing, and instead focuses his energy on making her home life bearable.responsible.
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* A large part of the reason that Skitter became a VillainProtagonist in ''Literature/{{Worm}}'' was because
* ''WebVideo/EpicRapBattlesOfHistory'': [[spoiler:In "Barack Obama vs. Mitt Romney", when the two devolve into childish insults, UsefulNotes/AbrahamLincoln interrupts and reroutes the debate back to the actual issues at hand, then accurately assesses the faults of both sides while also acknowledging the valid points they make. Three seasons later, he interrupts again in "Donald Trump vs. Hillary Clinton" to shut down Trump's blatantly racist rant, and also chews out Hillary for assuming that Trump's campaign would self-destruct without her having to put up a real fight.]] In general,
* ''Literature/HeroesSaveTheWorld'': Several of the Children have approached adults about what is happening. While they
* ''LetsPlay/{{Mahu}}'': Though they are often cold
* ''WebVideo/NightmareTime'': Duke is by far one of the most competent adults in the {{Franchise/Hatchetfield}} multiverse. He's a social worker who not only makes every effort to help [[MysteriousWaif Hannah]] in her abusive home, but also believes her when she describes her supernatural experiences to him, and brings in his friend Miss Holloway, since she's a witch and thus far more equipped to deal with this sort of thing than he is. He also believes in Lex's innocence when she's forced to take the fall for her mother's criminal activities, and complies with her wishes to not have Hannah put into foster care, despite how terrible their home life is, understanding that given her experiences, Lex has every reason not to trust the system, or people who work for it, like him. He realizes that Lex is probably right that being forced into foster care be even worse for Hannah's wellbeing, and instead focuses his energy on making her home life bearable.
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* ''LetsPlay/{{Mahu}}'': Though they are often cold and calculating, most of the rulers of both the Commonwealth Republic of "Crownless Eagle" and the Galactic Commonwealth of "Second Chance" are reasonable people seeking only the best for their nations.
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* ''LetsPlay/{{Mahu}}'': Though they are often cold and calculating, most of the rulers of both the Commonwealth Republic of "Crownless Eagle" and the Galactic Commonwealth of "Second Chance" are reasonable people seeking only the best for their nations.nations.
* ''WebVideo/NightmareTime'': Duke is by far one of the most competent adults in the {{Franchise/Hatchetfield}} multiverse. He's a social worker who not only makes every effort to help [[MysteriousWaif Hannah]] in her abusive home, but also believes her when she describes her supernatural experiences to him, and brings in his friend Miss Holloway, since she's a witch and thus far more equipped to deal with this sort of thing than he is. He also believes in Lex's innocence when she's forced to take the fall for her mother's criminal activities, and complies with her wishes to not have Hannah put into foster care, despite how terrible their home life is, understanding that given her experiences, Lex has every reason not to trust the system, or people who work for it, like him. He realizes that Lex is probably right that being forced into foster care be even worse for Hannah's wellbeing, and instead focuses his energy on making her home life bearable.
* ''WebVideo/NightmareTime'': Duke is by far one of the most competent adults in the {{Franchise/Hatchetfield}} multiverse. He's a social worker who not only makes every effort to help [[MysteriousWaif Hannah]] in her abusive home, but also believes her when she describes her supernatural experiences to him, and brings in his friend Miss Holloway, since she's a witch and thus far more equipped to deal with this sort of thing than he is. He also believes in Lex's innocence when she's forced to take the fall for her mother's criminal activities, and complies with her wishes to not have Hannah put into foster care, despite how terrible their home life is, understanding that given her experiences, Lex has every reason not to trust the system, or people who work for it, like him. He realizes that Lex is probably right that being forced into foster care be even worse for Hannah's wellbeing, and instead focuses his energy on making her home life bearable.
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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': The Beacon staff all seem to be very tolerant of extra-curricular activities and approachable mentor figures. Professor Ozpin in particular is very perceptive about things the heroes want to keep hidden, such as Team RWBY investigating the White Fang and Torchwick, as well as Blake being a faunus. He is mostly willing to overlook rule breaking and even borderline-criminal activities if the student in question truly has good reason for doing so. He is also very kindly and is always prepared to offer advice to his students, even in personal matters a teacher need not necessarily pay attention to.
** On the other hand, Ozpin's behaviour may actually not be entirely benevolent, making him a subversion. He has had pupils die on his watch in the past, and Raven implies that this may be due to them being manipulated by him into doing his bidding when they think they're acting of their own free will. She even goes so far as to hint that he has a tendency to take an unhealthy interest in one or two particularly good teams in a given intake and bend the rules for them so they can operate as off-the-book agents for him, even though the students in question may not realise that it's even happening. Cinder describes him as arrogant, a description apparently given to him by Salem [[spoiler: his ex-lover, who he's been fighting a secret HopelessWar with for centuries. When the heroes learn the truth of this, their faith in Ozpin is permanently damaged and they can barely trust him with anything.]]
** General Ironwood is another subversion. At first, he ''seems'' reasonable, being supportive and encouraging of the protagonists during their sparse interactions through most of the series. But once the RWBY gang make it to Atlas and start working with Ironwood consistently in Volume 7, it becomes apparent how stubborn and uncooperative Ironwood really is; He frequently dismisses their concerns of how his policies are negatively impacting his kingdom, refuses to consider any approach that involves sharing power and responsibility with anyone not completely loyal to him, and its shown that his decisions are tainted by his PTSD. Ironwood is only "reasonable" when it serves him to be so. [[spoiler: Once he learns that Salem is going to attack the kingdom personally, Ironwood snaps and becomes HeWhoFightsMonsters, willing to sacrifice an entire city to save himself and his forces, while demanding the heroes arrested for disagreeing. He even goes as far as to shoot Oscar for comparing him to Salem.]]
** On the other hand, Ozpin's behaviour may actually not be entirely benevolent, making him a subversion. He has had pupils die on his watch in the past, and Raven implies that this may be due to them being manipulated by him into doing his bidding when they think they're acting of their own free will. She even goes so far as to hint that he has a tendency to take an unhealthy interest in one or two particularly good teams in a given intake and bend the rules for them so they can operate as off-the-book agents for him, even though the students in question may not realise that it's even happening. Cinder describes him as arrogant, a description apparently given to him by Salem [[spoiler: his ex-lover, who he's been fighting a secret HopelessWar with for centuries. When the heroes learn the truth of this, their faith in Ozpin is permanently damaged and they can barely trust him with anything.]]
** General Ironwood is another subversion. At first, he ''seems'' reasonable, being supportive and encouraging of the protagonists during their sparse interactions through most of the series. But once the RWBY gang make it to Atlas and start working with Ironwood consistently in Volume 7, it becomes apparent how stubborn and uncooperative Ironwood really is; He frequently dismisses their concerns of how his policies are negatively impacting his kingdom, refuses to consider any approach that involves sharing power and responsibility with anyone not completely loyal to him, and its shown that his decisions are tainted by his PTSD. Ironwood is only "reasonable" when it serves him to be so. [[spoiler: Once he learns that Salem is going to attack the kingdom personally, Ironwood snaps and becomes HeWhoFightsMonsters, willing to sacrifice an entire city to save himself and his forces, while demanding the heroes arrested for disagreeing. He even goes as far as to shoot Oscar for comparing him to Salem.]]
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** The Beacon staff all seem to be very tolerant of extra-curricular activities and approachable mentor figures. Professor Ozpin in particular is very perceptive about things the heroes want to keep hidden, such as Team RWBY investigating the White Fang and Torchwick, as well as Blake being a faunus. He is mostly willing to overlook rule breaking and even borderline-criminal activities if the student in question truly has good reason for doing so. He is also very kindly and is always prepared to offer advice to his students, even in personal matters a teacher need not necessarily pay attention to.
** *** On the other hand, Ozpin's behaviour may actually not be entirely benevolent, making him a subversion. He has had pupils die on his watch in the past, and Raven implies that this may be due to them being manipulated by him into doing his bidding when they think they're acting of their own free will. She even goes so far as to hint that he has a tendency to take an unhealthy interest in one or two particularly good teams in a given intake and bend the rules for them so they can operate as off-the-book agents for him, even though the students in question may not realise that it's even happening. Cinder describes him as arrogant, a description apparently given to him by Salem [[spoiler: his Salem, [[spoiler:his ex-lover, who he's been fighting a secret HopelessWar with for centuries. When the heroes learn the truth of this, their faith in Ozpin is permanently damaged and they can barely trust him with anything. At the end of the day, Ozpin had his good intents, but is just another flawed man.]]
** General Ironwood is another subversion. At first, he ''seems'' reasonable, being supportive and encouraging of the protagonists during their sparse interactions through most of the series. But once the RWBY gang make it to Atlas and start working with Ironwood consistently in Volume 7, it becomes apparent how stubborn and uncooperative Ironwood really is; He frequently dismisses their concerns of how his policies are negatively impacting his kingdom, refuses to consider any approach that involves sharing power and responsibility with anyone not completely loyal to him, and its shown that his decisions are tainted by his PTSD. Ironwood is only "reasonable" when it serves him to be so.[[spoiler: Once [[spoiler:Once he learns that Salem is going to attack the kingdom personally, Ironwood snaps and becomes HeWhoFightsMonsters, willing to sacrifice an entire city to save himself and his forces, while demanding the heroes arrested for disagreeing. He even goes as far as to shoot Oscar for comparing him to Salem.]]
** The Beacon staff all seem to be very tolerant of extra-curricular activities and approachable mentor figures. Professor Ozpin in particular is very perceptive about things the heroes want to keep hidden, such as Team RWBY investigating the White Fang and Torchwick, as well as Blake being a faunus. He is mostly willing to overlook rule breaking and even borderline-criminal activities if the student in question truly has good reason for doing so. He is also very kindly and is always prepared to offer advice to his students, even in personal matters a teacher need not necessarily pay attention to.
** General Ironwood is another subversion. At first, he ''seems'' reasonable, being supportive and encouraging of the protagonists during their sparse interactions through most of the series. But once the RWBY gang make it to Atlas and start working with Ironwood consistently in Volume 7, it becomes apparent how stubborn and uncooperative Ironwood really is; He frequently dismisses their concerns of how his policies are negatively impacting his kingdom, refuses to consider any approach that involves sharing power and responsibility with anyone not completely loyal to him, and its shown that his decisions are tainted by his PTSD. Ironwood is only "reasonable" when it serves him to be so.
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** General Ironwood is another subversion. At first, he ''seems'' reasonable, being supportive and encouraging of the protagonists during their sparse interactions through most of the series. But once the RWBY gang make it to Atlas and start working with Ironwood consistently in Volume 7, it becomes apparent how stubborn and uncooperative Ironwood really is; He frequently dismisses their concerns of how his policies are negatively impacting his kingdom, refuses to consider any approach that involves sharing power and responsibility with anyone not completely loyal to him, and its shown that his decisions are tainted by his PTSD. Ironwood is only "reasonable" when it serves him to be so. [[spoiler: Once he learns that Salem is going to attack the kingdom personally, Ironwood snaps and becomes HeWhoFightsMonsters, willing to sacrifice an entire city to save himself and his forces, while demanding the heroes arrested for disagreeing. He even goes as far as to shoot Oscar for comparing him to Salem.]]
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* In ''WebAnimation/IfTheEmperorHadATextToSpeechDevice'', the Emperor himself. Bitter and caustic as he may be, he's genuinely upset at what has become of the Imperium and is slowly trying to put it back the way it was before the Horus Heresy, even considering letting the aliens join his nation.
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* In ''WebAnimation/IfTheEmperorHadATextToSpeechDevice'', the Emperor himself. Bitter and caustic as he may be, he's genuinely upset at what has become of the Imperium and is slowly trying to put it back the way it was before the Horus Heresy, even considering letting the aliens join his nation.nation (manly ones that do melee,though, disqualifying the Tau despite their other desireable traits).
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** Ecclesiarch Descius, despite his organization being disbanded by Imperial order, still tries to fulfill this role and [[spoiler:stop Karamazov from killing the Custodes]].
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** Ecclesiarch Descius, despite his organization being disbanded by Imperial order, still tries to fulfill this role and [[spoiler:stop Karamazov from killing the Custodes]]. The Emperor rewards him by letting him keep his job despite not being big on the whole "God Emperor" thing, which Descius is eternally grateful for.
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** On the other hand, Ozpin's behaviour may actually not be entirely benevolent, making him a subversion. He has had pupils die on his watch in the past, and Raven implies that this may be due to them being manipulated by him into doing his bidding when they think they're acting of their own free will. She even goes so far as to hint that he has a tendency to take an unhealthy interest in one or two particularly good teams in a given intake and bend the rules for them so they can operate as off-the-book agents for him, even though the students in question may not realise that it's even happening. Cinder describes him as arrogant, a description apparently given to him by Salem
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** On the other hand, Ozpin's behaviour may actually not be entirely benevolent, making him a subversion. He has had pupils die on his watch in the past, and Raven implies that this may be due to them being manipulated by him into doing his bidding when they think they're acting of their own free will. She even goes so far as to hint that he has a tendency to take an unhealthy interest in one or two particularly good teams in a given intake and bend the rules for them so they can operate as off-the-book agents for him, even though the students in question may not realise that it's even happening. Cinder describes him as arrogant, a description apparently given to him by SalemSalem [[spoiler: his ex-lover, who he's been fighting a secret HopelessWar with for centuries. When the heroes learn the truth of this, their faith in Ozpin is permanently damaged and they can barely trust him with anything.]]
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* His Honor, Edward Dyer, Mayor of a fictionalized Orlando in the ''Roleplay/GlobalGuardiansPBEMUniverse'' setting. Are you a superior coming to him to report an alien invasion? He'll listen and even take your advice on how to defend the city. Zombies? He'll listen. Supervillains infiltrating the mayor's office. He'll even listen to you if he's your prime suspect. Of course, if you're wrong, he'll read you the riot act for wasting his time.
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* ''WebVideo/EpicRapBattlesOfHistory'': [[spoiler:In "Barack Obama vs. Mitt Romney", when the two devolve into childish insults, UsefulNotes/AbrahamLincoln interrupts and reroutes the debate back to the actual issues at hand, then accurately assesses the faults of both sides while also acknowledging the valid points they make.]] In general, of the authority figures shown in the series, Lincoln is the one portrayed most sympathetically and the one who seems most fit to be in charge. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And he refuses to make fun of a show without watching it first.]]
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* ''WebVideo/EpicRapBattlesOfHistory'': [[spoiler:In "Barack Obama vs. Mitt Romney", when the two devolve into childish insults, UsefulNotes/AbrahamLincoln interrupts and reroutes the debate back to the actual issues at hand, then accurately assesses the faults of both sides while also acknowledging the valid points they make. Three seasons later, he interrupts again in "Donald Trump vs. Hillary Clinton" to shut down Trump's blatantly racist rant, and also chews out Hillary for assuming that Trump's campaign would self-destruct without her having to put up a real fight.]] In general, of the authority figures shown in the series, Lincoln is the one portrayed most sympathetically and the one who seems most fit to be in charge. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And he refuses to make fun of a show without watching it first.]]
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* ''Literature/HeroesSaveTheWorld'': Several of the Children have approached adults about what is happening. While they were met with disbelief, this gave way to acceptance after receiving proof of superpowers.
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* ''Literature/HeroesSaveTheWorld'': Several of the Children have approached adults about what is happening. While they were met with disbelief, this gave way to acceptance after receiving proof of superpowers.superpowers.
*''LetsPlay/{{Mahu}}'': Though they are often cold and calculating, most of the rulers of both the Commonwealth Republic of "Crownless Eagle" and the Galactic Commonwealth of "Second Chance" are reasonable people seeking only the best for their nations.
*''LetsPlay/{{Mahu}}'': Though they are often cold and calculating, most of the rulers of both the Commonwealth Republic of "Crownless Eagle" and the Galactic Commonwealth of "Second Chance" are reasonable people seeking only the best for their nations.
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* Explored in the short story "The Big Bitch" http://strangestoriesaboutsadpeople.blogspot.com/2010/08/big-bitch.html
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* Explored in the short story "The Big Bitch" http://strangestoriesaboutsadpeople.''[[http://strangestoriesaboutsadpeople.blogspot.com/2010/08/big-bitch.htmlhtml The Big Bitch]]''
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* The "Denazra" plot line produced by ''WebVideo/NatOneProductions' invokes this trope frequently. While there's a fair amount of [[VastBureaucracy inefficiency and dithering]], the Coalition generally seems to be a benevolent organization trying to get a bunch of different species to join together and fight against a [[RobotWar common foe]]. Unfortunately, they're still losing.
* Both the headmistress and the head of Security at [[SuperheroSchool Whateley Academy]] in the ''Literature/WhateleyUniverse''. The headmistress turns out to be one of the great superheroines of the 20th century, and the head of security turns out to be a highly trained ex-special Forces military expert. So maybe the people who hired these guys count too.
* Explored in the short story "The Big Bitch" http://strangestoriesaboutsadpeople.blogspot.com/2010/08/big-bitch.html
* The Lord of the Supreme Council in ''Literature/TheQuestportChronicles''.
* In ''WebAnimation/IfTheEmperorHadATextToSpeechDevice'', the Emperor himself. Bitter and caustic as he may be, he's genuinely upset at what has become of the Imperium and is slowly trying to put it back the way it was before the Horus Heresy, even considering letting the aliens join his nation.
** The Lord Commander Militant of the Imperial Guard tries to be this to a very minor extent among his fellow High Lords. He tries to impede them from weakening the Imperial Guard, by keeping laxatives and air legal.
** Ecclesiarch Descius, despite his organization being disbanded by Imperial order, still tries to fulfill this role and [[spoiler:stop Karamazov from killing the Custodes]].
* A large part of the reason that Skitter became a VillainProtagonist in ''Literature/{{Worm}}'' was because none of the authority figures she ever encountered were reasonable. That said, Miss Militia, a superhero in [[TheCity Brockton Bay]] promoted to lead the local superhero team after her predecessor's retirement, is unquestionably evenhanded and responsible.
* His Honor, Edward Dyer, Mayor of a fictionalized Orlando in the ''Roleplay/GlobalGuardiansPBEMUniverse'' setting. Are you a superior coming to him to report an alien invasion? He'll listen and even take your advice on how to defend the city. Zombies? He'll listen. Supervillains infiltrating the mayor's office. He'll even listen to you if he's your prime suspect. Of course, if you're wrong, he'll read you the riot act for wasting his time.
* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': The Beacon staff all seem to be very tolerant of extra-curricular activities and approachable mentor figures. Professor Ozpin in particular is very perceptive about things the heroes want to keep hidden, such as Team RWBY investigating the White Fang and Torchwick, as well as Blake being a faunus. He is mostly willing to overlook rule breaking and even borderline-criminal activities if the student in question truly has good reason for doing so. He is also very kindly and is always prepared to offer advice to his students, even in personal matters a teacher need not necessarily pay attention to.
** On the other hand, Ozpin's behaviour may actually not be entirely benevolent, making him a subversion. He has had pupils die on his watch in the past, and Raven implies that this may be due to them being manipulated by him into doing his bidding when they think they're acting of their own free will. She even goes so far as to hint that he has a tendency to take an unhealthy interest in one or two particularly good teams in a given intake and bend the rules for them so they can operate as off-the-book agents for him, even though the students in question may not realise that it's even happening. Cinder describes him as arrogant, a description apparently given to him by Salem
* Arthéon from ''Franchise/{{Noob}}'' seems to be this. Notably, he and his RagtagBunchOfMisfits guild ended up involved in the second novel's plot because he was willing to follow a lead given by a random player nobody else was believing.
* ''WebVideo/EpicRapBattlesOfHistory'': [[spoiler:In "Barack Obama vs. Mitt Romney", when the two devolve into childish insults, UsefulNotes/AbrahamLincoln interrupts and reroutes the debate back to the actual issues at hand, then accurately assesses the faults of both sides while also acknowledging the valid points they make.]] In general, of the authority figures shown in the series, Lincoln is the one portrayed most sympathetically and the one who seems most fit to be in charge. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And he refuses to make fun of a show without watching it first.]]
* ''Literature/HeroesSaveTheWorld'': Several of the Children have approached adults about what is happening. While they were met with disbelief, this gave way to acceptance after receiving proof of superpowers.
* Both the headmistress and the head of Security at [[SuperheroSchool Whateley Academy]] in the ''Literature/WhateleyUniverse''. The headmistress turns out to be one of the great superheroines of the 20th century, and the head of security turns out to be a highly trained ex-special Forces military expert. So maybe the people who hired these guys count too.
* Explored in the short story "The Big Bitch" http://strangestoriesaboutsadpeople.blogspot.com/2010/08/big-bitch.html
* The Lord of the Supreme Council in ''Literature/TheQuestportChronicles''.
* In ''WebAnimation/IfTheEmperorHadATextToSpeechDevice'', the Emperor himself. Bitter and caustic as he may be, he's genuinely upset at what has become of the Imperium and is slowly trying to put it back the way it was before the Horus Heresy, even considering letting the aliens join his nation.
** The Lord Commander Militant of the Imperial Guard tries to be this to a very minor extent among his fellow High Lords. He tries to impede them from weakening the Imperial Guard, by keeping laxatives and air legal.
** Ecclesiarch Descius, despite his organization being disbanded by Imperial order, still tries to fulfill this role and [[spoiler:stop Karamazov from killing the Custodes]].
* A large part of the reason that Skitter became a VillainProtagonist in ''Literature/{{Worm}}'' was because none of the authority figures she ever encountered were reasonable. That said, Miss Militia, a superhero in [[TheCity Brockton Bay]] promoted to lead the local superhero team after her predecessor's retirement, is unquestionably evenhanded and responsible.
* His Honor, Edward Dyer, Mayor of a fictionalized Orlando in the ''Roleplay/GlobalGuardiansPBEMUniverse'' setting. Are you a superior coming to him to report an alien invasion? He'll listen and even take your advice on how to defend the city. Zombies? He'll listen. Supervillains infiltrating the mayor's office. He'll even listen to you if he's your prime suspect. Of course, if you're wrong, he'll read you the riot act for wasting his time.
* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': The Beacon staff all seem to be very tolerant of extra-curricular activities and approachable mentor figures. Professor Ozpin in particular is very perceptive about things the heroes want to keep hidden, such as Team RWBY investigating the White Fang and Torchwick, as well as Blake being a faunus. He is mostly willing to overlook rule breaking and even borderline-criminal activities if the student in question truly has good reason for doing so. He is also very kindly and is always prepared to offer advice to his students, even in personal matters a teacher need not necessarily pay attention to.
** On the other hand, Ozpin's behaviour may actually not be entirely benevolent, making him a subversion. He has had pupils die on his watch in the past, and Raven implies that this may be due to them being manipulated by him into doing his bidding when they think they're acting of their own free will. She even goes so far as to hint that he has a tendency to take an unhealthy interest in one or two particularly good teams in a given intake and bend the rules for them so they can operate as off-the-book agents for him, even though the students in question may not realise that it's even happening. Cinder describes him as arrogant, a description apparently given to him by Salem
* Arthéon from ''Franchise/{{Noob}}'' seems to be this. Notably, he and his RagtagBunchOfMisfits guild ended up involved in the second novel's plot because he was willing to follow a lead given by a random player nobody else was believing.
* ''WebVideo/EpicRapBattlesOfHistory'': [[spoiler:In "Barack Obama vs. Mitt Romney", when the two devolve into childish insults, UsefulNotes/AbrahamLincoln interrupts and reroutes the debate back to the actual issues at hand, then accurately assesses the faults of both sides while also acknowledging the valid points they make.]] In general, of the authority figures shown in the series, Lincoln is the one portrayed most sympathetically and the one who seems most fit to be in charge. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And he refuses to make fun of a show without watching it first.]]
* ''Literature/HeroesSaveTheWorld'': Several of the Children have approached adults about what is happening. While they were met with disbelief, this gave way to acceptance after receiving proof of superpowers.
