History Quotes / KnightsAndKnaves

'''Orange Guardian:''' Yes. ''(beat)'' [[{{Touche}} Well, how about that. He guessed correctly.]]\\

-->-- Raymond Smullyan's ''Literature/AliceInnPuzzleLand''

-->--'''''Topless Robot''''', [[http://www.toplessrobot.com/2014/04/8_cliche_puzzles_that_are_in_every_goddamn_adventu.php?page=2 "8 Cliche Puzzles That Are In Every Goddamn Adventure Game"]]

-->-- Raymond Smullyan's ''Alice in Puzzle-land''

'''King:''' Now, I declare you should never say you ''know'' those puzzles until you have heard what the puzzles are! There are countless puzzles about liars and truth-tellers, child, and the odds are a million to one you don't know ''these'' puzzles! You remind me of those children who, when they see a magician take out a pack of cards, about to entertain them with some conjuring tricks, say "I know that trick!" Why, there are countless tricks which can be done with a pack of cards -- just as there are countless puzzles that can be told about knights who always tell the truth and knaves who always lie.\\

->''"One of them always tells the truth...and one of them always makes you want to shoot yourself. If you're a modern game designer, you must be completely sadistic to put this in your title circa 2014, because [[DeadHorseTrope even parodying this thing is now something of a cliche]]...From ''{{Film/Labyrinth}}'' to the ''Doctor Who'' episode "[[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS13E3PyramidsOfMars}} Pyramids of Mars]]," where even Creator/TomBaker seemed like he couldn't wait to get it over with, this thing has bored and frustrated generations. Because the answer is always the same, these days this puzzle is more of a {{secret handshake}} between the nerds that make these games and the nerds that play them than a real challenge for either."''\\
--'''''Topless Robot''''', [[http://www.toplessrobot.com/2014/04/8_cliche_puzzles_that_are_in_every_goddamn_adventu.php?page=2 "8 Cliche Puzzles That Are In Every Goddamn Adventure Game"]]

->''"One of them always tells the truth...and one of them always makes you want to shoot yourself. If you're a modern game designer, you must be completely sadistic to put this in your title circa 2014, because [[DeadHorseTrope even parodying this thing is now something of a cliche]]...From Labyrinth to the ''Doctor Who'' episode "[[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS13E3PyramidsOfMars}} Pyramids of Mars]]," where even Creator/TomBaker seemed like he couldn't wait to get it over with, this thing has bored and frustrated generations. Because the answer is always the same, these days this puzzle is more of a {{secret handshake}} between the nerds that make these games and the nerds that play them than a real challenge for either."''\\

--'''''Topless ZRobot''''', [[http://www.toplessrobot.com/2014/04/8_cliche_puzzles_that_are_in_every_goddamn_adventu.php?page=2 "8 Cliche Puzzles That Are In Every Goddamn Adventure Game"]]