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* In the Salt-Shot ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/44607043/chapters/121613383 A Price to Pay]]'', Adrien doesn't see anything wrong with helping his father rip the Ladybug Earrings [[EarAche right off of Marinette's ears]] and make his reality-altering Wish, even after Marinette warns him that his father likely intends to ensure the life claimed [[BalancingDeathsBooks as fuel for said Wish]] will come from [[EvilIsPetty HER family]]. After all, he's still the hero, right...? And Marinette is ''destined'' to be his, no matter what. He's so convinced of this that he accuses ''her'' of "being petty" for not accepting the [[BackhandedApology token apology]] he dashes off after learning that she [[RippleEffectProofMemory retained her memories]] of the original world... and that her father ''was'', in fact, killed by ''his'' father. None of that ''matters'' so much as the fact that the Wish [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor didn't turn out]] the way ''he'' wanted.

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* In the Salt-Shot ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/44607043/chapters/121613383 ''[[Fanfic/MiraculousLadybugSaltShots A Price to Pay]]'', Adrien doesn't see anything wrong with helping his father rip the Ladybug Earrings [[EarAche right off of Marinette's ears]] and make his reality-altering Wish, even after Marinette warns him that his father likely intends to ensure the life claimed [[BalancingDeathsBooks as fuel for said Wish]] will come from [[EvilIsPetty HER family]]. After all, he's still the hero, right...? And Marinette is ''destined'' to be his, no matter what. He's so convinced of this that he accuses ''her'' of "being petty" for not accepting the [[BackhandedApology token apology]] he dashes off after learning that she [[RippleEffectProofMemory retained her memories]] of the original world... and that her father ''was'', in fact, killed by ''his'' father. None of that ''matters'' so much as the fact that the Wish [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor didn't turn out]] the way ''he'' wanted.

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** One of his biggest self-justifications for being TheLoad as [[NominalHero Chat Noir]] is that his partner has the [[WorldHealingWave Miraculous Cure]], which lets her [[ResetButton restore everything destroyed]] by the akuma she purifies. Including [[BackFromTheDead bringing back anyone]] who was killed during the fight. Hence his willingness to let all of Paris drown during the Syren incident and [[SenselessSacrifice senselessly sacrifice himself]] for 'bonus points'. After his father is exposed as Hawkmoth and arrested, Adrien even legitimately tries to argue that he shouldn't be charged for murder, terrorism, treason or anything else since the horrors inflicted by his akuma were magically erased.

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** One of his biggest self-justifications for being TheLoad and occasionally TheMillstone as [[NominalHero Chat Noir]] is that his partner has the [[WorldHealingWave Miraculous Cure]], which lets her [[ResetButton restore everything destroyed]] by the akuma she purifies. Including [[BackFromTheDead bringing back anyone]] who was killed during the fight. Hence his willingness to let all of Paris drown during the Syren incident and [[SenselessSacrifice senselessly sacrifice himself]] for 'bonus points'. After his father is exposed as Hawkmoth and arrested, Adrien even legitimately tries to argue that he shouldn't be charged for murder, terrorism, treason or anything else since the horrors inflicted by his akuma were magically erased.erased.
** At the same time, Adrien also expects to be handsomely rewarded for his service as Chat Noir, arguing that Paris ''owes him'' for everything he did as a superhero. Despite how he refused to take said responsibilities seriously, to the point of skipping the FinalBattle with Hawkmoth due to his SkewedPriorities. In a lovely bit of DoubleThink, he argues that the only injuries and deaths that 'count' are those Hawkmoth's akumas inflicted upon ''him'', even though they were erased/reversed by the Miraculous Cure as well, and that he ''deserves'' compensation for his suffering while simultaneously rejecting the notion that anyone else might deserve acknowledgement of ''their'' suffering.



** [[RecursiveFanfiction Recursive Fic]] ''Fanfic/TalesOfKarmicLiesAftermath'' has Alya so convinced that she's ''meant'' to be a superheroine that she plots to steal a Miraculi from one of the ''actual'' heroes, completely ignoring that this would make her just like Hawkmoth and Mayura.
* ''Fanfic/LadyBugOut'': The series [[ForWantOfANail branches off from canon]] by [[{{Defied}} defying]] this: Alya is questioned about the picture she posted on her Ladyblog of Ladybug and Chat Noir KissingUnderTheInfluence of their Oblivio-induced LaserGuidedAmnesia, deliberately omitting the context. While fully aware that she's misrepresenting the situation, Alya angrily defends herself, claiming that it's simply the price Ladybug has to pay for being a public figure. Marinette disagrees, and is inspired to [[StartMyOwn start her own blog]] to debunk those lies, ruining Alya's reputation.

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** [[RecursiveFanfiction Recursive Fic]] {{Recursive Fanfic|tion}} ''Fanfic/TalesOfKarmicLiesAftermath'' has Alya so convinced that she's ''meant'' to be a superheroine that she plots to steal a Miraculi Miraculous from one of the ''actual'' heroes, completely ignoring that this would make her just like Hawkmoth and Mayura.
* ''Fanfic/LadyBugOut'': The series [[ForWantOfANail [[PointOfDivergence branches off from canon]] by [[{{Defied}} defying]] this: Alya is questioned about the picture she posted on her Ladyblog of Ladybug and Chat Noir KissingUnderTheInfluence of their Oblivio-induced LaserGuidedAmnesia, deliberately omitting the context. While fully aware that she's misrepresenting the situation, Alya angrily defends herself, claiming that it's simply the price Ladybug has to pay for being a public figure. Marinette disagrees, and is inspired to [[StartMyOwn start her own blog]] to debunk those lies, ruining Alya's reputation.



* In the Salt-Shot ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/44607043/chapters/121613383 A Price to Pay]]'', Adrien doesn't see anything wrong with helping his father rip the Ladybug Earrings [[EarAche right off of Marinette's ears]] and make his reality-altering Wish, even after Marinette warns him that his father likely intends to ensure the life claimed [[BalancingDeathsBooks as fuel for said Wish]] will come from [[EvilIsPetty HER family]]. After all, he's still the hero, right...? And Marinette is ''destined'' to be his, no matter what. He's so convinced of this that he accuses ''her'' of "being petty" for not accepting the token apology he dashes off after learning that she [[RippleEffectProofMemory retained her memories]] of the original world... and that her father ''was'', in fact, killed by ''his'' father. None of that ''matters'' so much as the fact that the Wish [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor didn't turn out]] the way ''he'' wanted.

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* In the Salt-Shot ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/44607043/chapters/121613383 A Price to Pay]]'', Adrien doesn't see anything wrong with helping his father rip the Ladybug Earrings [[EarAche right off of Marinette's ears]] and make his reality-altering Wish, even after Marinette warns him that his father likely intends to ensure the life claimed [[BalancingDeathsBooks as fuel for said Wish]] will come from [[EvilIsPetty HER family]]. After all, he's still the hero, right...? And Marinette is ''destined'' to be his, no matter what. He's so convinced of this that he accuses ''her'' of "being petty" for not accepting the [[BackhandedApology token apology apology]] he dashes off after learning that she [[RippleEffectProofMemory retained her memories]] of the original world... and that her father ''was'', in fact, killed by ''his'' father. None of that ''matters'' so much as the fact that the Wish [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor didn't turn out]] the way ''he'' wanted.

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* ''Fanfic/ChildOfTheStorm'' discusses and deconstructs this with the Avengers, who are repeatedly noted to be a group of heroes who have rules of engagement while on duty, to capture, not kill. However, it is also repeatedly noted and demonstrated that they are capable of being incredibly ruthless, tend to accept no authority but their own, and verge on RevengeBeforeReason (Loki, ReformedButNotTamed, is the go-to man for interrogation, and at one points methodically murders ''the entire Red Room'' - who, granted, made HYDRA look soft and cuddly). The narrative points out how this led to a good proportion of the crises of the first two books, directly and indirectly, starting with Lucius Malfoy's HYDRA, which formed because Malfoy (among others) was afraid of Thor/James Potter taking revenge, was far deadlier than its predecessors and, allied with Gravemoss (AxCrazy OmnicidalManiac and {{necromancer}}), briefly took over the world and nearly destroyed the universe. Separately, Doctor Doom, a toned down version of his canon counterpart (who is still a ruthless dictator, albeit a benevolent one), is presented as being justified in his wariness of the Avengers' potentially deciding one day just to depose him because they don't like him.

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* ''Fanfic/ChildOfTheStorm'' discusses and deconstructs this with the Avengers, who Avengers.
** On the one hand, they
are repeatedly noted to be a group of heroes who have rules of engagement while on duty, to capture, not kill. However, On the other, it is also repeatedly noted and demonstrated that they are capable of being incredibly ruthless, tend to accept no authority but their own, and verge on RevengeBeforeReason (Loki, RevengeBeforeReason. Loki, ReformedButNotTamed, is the go-to man for interrogation, and at one points methodically murders ''the entire Red Room'' - who, granted, made HYDRA look soft and cuddly). cuddly.
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The narrative points out how this led to a good proportion of the crises of the first two books, directly and indirectly, starting with Lucius Malfoy's HYDRA, which formed because Malfoy (among others) was afraid of Thor/James Potter taking revenge, was far deadlier than its predecessors and, allied with Gravemoss (AxCrazy OmnicidalManiac and {{necromancer}}), briefly took over the world and nearly destroyed the universe. Separately, Doctor Doom, a toned down version of his canon counterpart (who is still a ruthless dictator, albeit a benevolent one), is presented as being justified in his wariness of the Avengers' potentially deciding one day just to depose him because they don't like him.him.
** Similarly, this is deconstructed with Harry and the secretive instincts he picked up off the Avengers (though in fairness, it's implied that a chunk of it came from his mother), as well as the manipulative ones, in regards to how he acts towards Ron and Hermione in Book II. Basically, he does his level best to keep them at arm's length regarding his troubles and disregards their own choices in the process, as well as keeping secrets from them that they should rightfully know. While in terms of the TraumaCongaLine that his exploits usually involve, even they reluctantly admit they can see his point, but it's pointed out that manipulating them into staying out of it is ''not'' a good thing. As for the secret-keeping, it's also pointed out that while he does have semi-legitimate reasons for keeping those secrets, he didn't have the right to keep it from them (and he has a nasty habit of keeping them out of habit).
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*** At times, Marinette would [[BecameTheirOwnAntithesis Become Her Own Antithesis]], employing tactics on par with [[RichBitch Chloé]] or [[ManipulativeBitch Lila]] herself in order to ''ensure'' her former friends suffered. Such as [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections using her connections]] to ruin their reputations -- Alya wants to become an IntepridReporter? Better warn Nadja that she's not very good at "[[IronicEcho checking her sources]]" and shut down any chance of an internship!

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*** At times, Marinette would [[BecameTheirOwnAntithesis Become Her Own Antithesis]], employing tactics on par with [[RichBitch Chloé]] or [[ManipulativeBitch Lila]] herself in order to ''ensure'' her former friends suffered. Such as [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections using her connections]] to ruin their reputations -- Alya wants to become an IntepridReporter? IntrepidReporter? Better warn Nadja that she's not very good at "[[IronicEcho checking her sources]]" and shut down any chance of an internship!



* {{Deconstruct|ionFic}}s in ''Fanfic/TheKarmaOfLies'': This is how Adrien ''believes'' the world works. Not simply because he's a LonelyRichKid whose views are heavily influenced by the media he's consumed, but because he's used to being shielded from the long-term consequences of his actions. As a result, he shows a stunning LackOfEmpathy for others; as long as ''he's'' not directly impacted by things like Lila [[ConArtist conning their classmates]], Chloé's bullying, or Hawkmoth terrorizing Paris, he simply doesn't care about it.

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* {{Deconstruct|ionFic}}s {{Deconstruct|ionFic}}ed in ''Fanfic/TheKarmaOfLies'': This is how Adrien ''believes'' the world works. Not simply because he's a LonelyRichKid whose views are heavily influenced by the media he's consumed, but because he's used to being shielded from the long-term consequences of his actions. As a result, he shows a stunning LackOfEmpathy for others; as long as ''he's'' not directly impacted by things like Lila [[ConArtist conning their classmates]], Chloé's bullying, or Hawkmoth terrorizing Paris, he simply doesn't care about it.



* ''Fanfic/TwoLetters'', penned by the same author as ''Fanfic/TheKarmaOfLies'', [[DeconstructionFic deconstructs]] the concept of "Saltinette" by exploring a scenario where Marinette is pushed to the point that she not only [[TakeThisJobAndShoveIt retires from being Ladybug]], but chooses a sketchy successor to "[[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor be the hero that Paris wants and deserves]]". While Luka recognizes that being Ladybug was a thankless job, he's increasingly disturbed by just ''how much'' Marinette has StoppedCaring about anything other than her own happiness with him.

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* In the Salt-Shot ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/44607043/chapters/121613383 A Price to Pay]]'', Adrien doesn't see anything wrong with helping his father rip the Ladybug Earrings [[EarAche right off of Marinette's ears]] and make his reality-altering Wish, even after Marinette warns him that his father likely intends to ensure the life claimed [[BalancingDeathsBooks as fuel for said Wish]] will come from [[EvilIsPetty HER family]]. After all, he's still the hero, right...? And Marinette is ''destined'' to be his, no matter what. He's so convinced of this that he accuses ''her'' of "being petty" for not accepting the token apology he dashes off after learning that she [[RippleEffectProofMemory retained her memories]] of the original world... and that her father ''was'', in fact, killed by ''his'' father. None of that ''matters'' so much as the fact that the Wish [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor didn't turn out]] the way ''he'' wanted.
* ''Fanfic/TwoLetters'', penned by the same author as ''Fanfic/TheKarmaOfLies'', [[DeconstructionFic deconstructs]] {{deconstruct|ionFic}}s the concept of "Saltinette" by exploring a scenario where Marinette is pushed to the point that she not only [[TakeThisJobAndShoveIt retires from being Ladybug]], but deliberately chooses a sketchy successor SketchySuccessor to "[[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor be the hero that Paris wants and deserves]]". While Luka recognizes that being Ladybug was a thankless job, he's increasingly disturbed by just ''how much'' Marinette has StoppedCaring about anything other than her own happiness with him.



* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12879916/28/The-Longest-Road The Longest Road]]'' had a pretty bad case of this in Chapter 28. [[{{Flanderization}} Ramping up the already problematic characterization]] of Erika in the anime, she's made out as the villain because she kicked Ash out of her Gym [[DisproportionateRetribution for not liking her perfumes]]. In turn, Ash outs her as a lesbian after finding out that LGBT people aren't allowed to be Gym Leaders, and he's portrayed as in the right for doing this. The author later rewrote the chapter to remove this element due to the resulting backlash.

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* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12879916/28/The-Longest-Road The Longest Road]]'' had a pretty bad case of this in Chapter 28. [[{{Flanderization}} Ramping up the already problematic characterization]] of Erika in the anime, she's made out as the villain because she kicked Ash out of her Gym [[DisproportionateRetribution for not liking her perfumes]]. perfumes. In turn, Ash [[ForcedOutOfTheCloset outs her as a lesbian lesbian]] after finding out that LGBT people aren't allowed to be Gym Leaders, and he's getting her fired, along with all of her employees. This was portrayed as in the right a "proper punishment" for doing this.her DisproportionateRetribution. The author later rewrote the chapter to remove this element due to the resulting backlash.



* ''Fanfic/OrSomethingSeries'': ''An Affair or Something'' largely focuses on Jaune's perspective, with only a few random mentions here or there of others reacting to what's happening. [[spoiler:Until it's {{Subverted}} near the end as Ruby's perspective is revealed, showing that many of Jaune's worries stem from misunderstandings and dramatic escalation on both sides]].

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* ''Fanfic/OrSomethingSeries'': ''An Affair or Something'' largely focuses on Jaune's perspective, with only a few random mentions here or there of others reacting to what's happening. [[spoiler:Until it's {{Subverted}} near the end as Ruby's perspective is revealed, showing that many of Jaune's worries stem from misunderstandings and dramatic escalation on both sides]].
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** "Saltinette" fics featured Marinette turning on Adrien, Alya and her former friends for how easily they fell for [[ManipulativeBitch Lila's manipulations]]. The most extreme of these stories completely changed her personality, turning the 'Everyday Ladybug' who went out of her way to help others into an IceQueen who StoppedCaring, watching her former friends suffer and deeming them to deserve whatever LaserGuidedKarma they got.
** In line with this, several of these "Saltinette" fics made the ''extent'' of their betrayal far worse, demonizing whichever characters the author didn't care to 'redeem' to the point of actively bullying her, destroying her property, even trying to ''kill her'' outright.
** On the flip side of this, anti-Salt/Saltinette fics frequently demonized ''Marinette'', accusing her of suffering from this canonically by painting her as a straight-up StalkerWithACrush. Such stories tended to ignore the [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocrisy]] of whomever was calling her out, such as Adrien (with his DoggedNiceGuy pursuit of Ladybug) or Alya (who ''actively encouraged'' many of Marinette's worst offenses and [[ShipperOnDeck shoved her towards Adrien]] over her protests).
* [[DeconstructionFic Deconstructed]] in ''Fanfic/TheKarmaOfLies'': This is how Adrien ''believes'' the world works. Not simply because he's a LonelyRichKid whose views are heavily influenced by the media he's consumed, but because he's used to being shielded from the long-term consequences of his actions. As a result, he shows a stunning LackOfEmpathy for others; as long as ''he's'' not directly effected by things like [[ManipulativeBitch Lila]] [[ConArtist conning their classmates]], Chloé's bullying, or Hawkmoth terrorizing Paris, he simply doesn't care about it.

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** "Saltinette" fics featured Marinette turning on Adrien, Alya Alya, and her former anyone else whom the author decided wasn't worthy of remaining friends with her after falling for how easily they fell for [[ManipulativeBitch Lila's manipulations]]. [[BitchInSheepsClothing Lila's]] BlatantLies. The most extreme of these stories completely changed her Marinette's personality, turning the 'Everyday Ladybug' "Everyday Ladybug" who went out of her way to help others into an IceQueen who StoppedCaring, watching StoppedCaring about her former friends suffer and ''former'' friends, deeming them to deserve whatever LaserGuidedKarma they got.
*** At times, Marinette would [[BecameTheirOwnAntithesis Become Her Own Antithesis]], employing tactics on par with [[RichBitch Chloé]] or [[ManipulativeBitch Lila]] herself in order to ''ensure'' her former friends suffered. Such as [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections using her connections]] to ruin their reputations -- Alya wants to become an IntepridReporter? Better warn Nadja that she's not very good at "[[IronicEcho checking her sources]]" and shut down any chance of an internship!
** In line with this, several of these "Saltinette" fics made make the ''extent'' of their her former friends' betrayal far worse, demonizing whichever characters that the author didn't care to 'redeem' to the point of "redeem" by having them actively bullying her, Marinette, destroying her property, and even trying to ''kill her'' outright.
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** On the flip side of this, anti-Salt/Saltinette fics frequently demonized ''Marinette'', accusing her of suffering from this canonically by painting her as a straight-up StalkerWithACrush. Such stories tended to ignore the [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocrisy]] {{hypocri|te}}sy of whomever was calling her out, such as Adrien (with his DoggedNiceGuy pursuit of Ladybug) or Alya (who ''actively encouraged'' many of Marinette's worst offenses and [[ShipperOnDeck shoved her towards Adrien]] over her protests).
* [[DeconstructionFic Deconstructed]] {{Deconstruct|ionFic}}s in ''Fanfic/TheKarmaOfLies'': This is how Adrien ''believes'' the world works. Not simply because he's a LonelyRichKid whose views are heavily influenced by the media he's consumed, but because he's used to being shielded from the long-term consequences of his actions. As a result, he shows a stunning LackOfEmpathy for others; as long as ''he's'' not directly effected impacted by things like [[ManipulativeBitch Lila]] Lila [[ConArtist conning their classmates]], Chloé's bullying, or Hawkmoth terrorizing Paris, he simply doesn't care about it.



* ''Fanfic/TheWeedverse'' doesn't run on this; instead, it operates on BlackAndGreyMorality. However, this comes up in the narration of ''Fanfic/EigengrauZweiDieWeltIstGrauGeworden''. Dim dismisses any crimes ''he'' commits, but considers them to be much worse when he's the victim.

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* ''Fanfic/TheWeedverse'' doesn't run on this; instead, it operates on BlackAndGreyMorality. However, this comes up in the narration of ''Fanfic/EigengrauZweiDieWeltIstGrauGeworden''. Dim dismisses any crimes ''he'' commits, but considers them to be much worse [[MoralMyopia when he's the victim.victim]].



* In the fanfic ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10341119/9/ Betrayal Brings Out the Best in Us]]'', Harley uses the [[TakingYouWithMe Destiny Bond]] move against May's Pokemon Manaphy, and it is treated as if Harley is a DirtyCoward who uses dirty moves when it is a legitimate strategy. He even gets assaulted by Ash with [[KarmaHoudini no repercussions]].

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* In the fanfic ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10341119/9/ Betrayal Brings Out the Best in Us]]'', Harley uses the [[TakingYouWithMe Destiny Bond]] move against May's Pokemon Manaphy, and it is treated as if Harley is a DirtyCoward who uses dirty moves when it is instead of a legitimate strategy. He even gets assaulted by Ash with [[KarmaHoudini no repercussions]].
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* [[DeconstructionFic Deconstructed]] in ''Fanfic/TheKarmaOfLies'': This is how Adrien ''believes'' the world works. Not simply because he's a LonelyRichKid whose views are heavily influenced by the media he's consumed, but because he's used to being shielded from the long-term consequences of his actions. As a result, he shows a stunning LackOfEmpathy for others; as long as ''he's'' not directly effected by things like [[ManipulativeBitch Lila]] [[ConArtist conning their classmates]], Chloe's bullying, or Hawkmoth terrorizing Paris, he simply doesn't care about it.

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* [[DeconstructionFic Deconstructed]] in ''Fanfic/TheKarmaOfLies'': This is how Adrien ''believes'' the world works. Not simply because he's a LonelyRichKid whose views are heavily influenced by the media he's consumed, but because he's used to being shielded from the long-term consequences of his actions. As a result, he shows a stunning LackOfEmpathy for others; as long as ''he's'' not directly effected by things like [[ManipulativeBitch Lila]] [[ConArtist conning their classmates]], Chloe's Chloé's bullying, or Hawkmoth terrorizing Paris, he simply doesn't care about it.



** Adrien also subscribes to this mentality, failing to see how his constant harassment of Ladybug as Chat Noir is just like how Chloe and Lila force their "affections" upon ''him''. It takes Marinette providing an explicit example by briefly mirroring his behavior and pretending that she wants to [[ForcefulKiss force a kiss onto him]] like he'd previously done to Ladybug for him to ''finally'' grasp how he was treating her the same way as his own unwanted admirers.

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** Adrien also subscribes to this mentality, failing to see how his constant harassment of Ladybug as Chat Noir is just like how Chloe Chloé and Lila force their "affections" upon ''him''. It takes Marinette providing an explicit example by briefly mirroring his behavior and pretending that she wants to [[ForcefulKiss force a kiss onto him]] like he'd previously done to Ladybug for him to ''finally'' grasp how he was treating her the same way as his own unwanted admirers.

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* ''Fanfic/AQuestionOfWhen'': After gaining access to MentalTimeTravel, Romilda Vane uses this power ''not'' to warn the Wizarding World about Voldemort's return, but to groom Harry Potter for a relationship with her.



* ''Fanfic/AQuestionOfWhen'': After gaining access to MentalTimeTravel, Romilda Vane uses this power ''not'' to warn the Wizarding World about Voldemort's return, but to groom Harry Potter for a relationship with her.



* Steve Rogers [[MoralMyopia suffers from this]] in ''Fanfic/TheDaysOfReckoningAreUponUs''. Whenever somebody he doesn't know dies as a result of his actions, whether directly or indirectly, Steve tends to brush it off as "You can't save everyone." Anyone he says this to reminds him that TheDeadHaveNames and are more than just collateral damage.



* Steve Rogers [[MoralMyopia suffers from this]] in ''Fanfic/TheDaysOfReckoningAreUponUs''. Whenever somebody he doesn't know dies as a result of his actions, whether directly or indirectly, Steve tends to brush it off as "You can't save everyone." Anyone he says this to reminds him that TheDeadHaveNames and are more than just collateral damage.

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* Steve Rogers [[MoralMyopia suffers from this]] in ''Fanfic/TheDaysOfReckoningAreUponUs''. Whenever somebody he doesn't know dies as a result of his actions, whether directly or indirectly, Steve tends to brush it off as "You can't save everyone." Anyone he says this to reminds him that TheDeadHaveNames and are more than just collateral damage.


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* ''Fanfic/TheLamentSeriesChaoticNeutral'': ''Chloé's Lament'' picks apart this attitude by depicting it as one of Chloé's {{Fatal Flaw}}s: thanks to how she was [[KarmaHoudini constantly shielded from any consequences for her actions]] by enablers like [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections her father]] and [[MisplacedKindergartenTeacher Ms. Bustier]], she sincerely believes that she ''deserves'' special treatment and to have the world [[ItsAllAboutMe bend to her every whim]]. This turns her Wish into a SelfInflictedHell, as Chloé is unable to accept that her KarmaHoudiniWarranty no longer applies in the new reality. Or that Marinette, now [[RoleSwapAU in her former position]], ''avoids'' abusing her status as Mayor Sabine's daughter, as Chloé can't comprehend why she'd see anything wrong with that.

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** Alya stubbornly clings to the notion that this ''should'' apply to her throughout the series. So far as she's concerned, Ladybug betrayed ''her'' by sharing her perspective and revealing how she'd intentionally misled her audience, and so did Marinette by helping the superheroine set up and run her blog. Even after she's no longer able to deny that [[LiarRevealed Lila deceived everybody]], she continues insisting that she doesn't owe Marinette any apologies for [[CassandraTruth ignoring her warnings]] -- the only one who needs to apologize is ''MARINETTE''!
** Adrien also subscribes to this mentality, failing to see how his constant harassment of Ladybug as Chat Noir is just like how Chloe and Lila force their "affections" upon ''him''. It takes Marinette providing an explicit example by briefly mirroring his behavior and pretending that she wants to [[ForcefulKiss force a kiss onto him]] like he'd previously done to Ladybug for him to ''finally'' grasp how he was treating her the same way as his own unwanted admirers.



* ''[[Fanfic/ForBetterOrForWorseOnePiece For Better or For Worse]]'': As lampshaded with the title and by Luffy himself, much like in canon, he only cares for his friends, and his ultimate goal is to ensure their survival and happiness, [[TitleDrop for better or for worse]]. The fact that this includes stopping a massive war is incidental.

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* ''[[Fanfic/ForBetterOrForWorseOnePiece For ''Fanfic/{{For Better or For Worse]]'': Worse|OnePiece}}'': As lampshaded with the title and by Luffy himself, much like in canon, he only cares for his friends, and his ultimate goal is to ensure their survival and happiness, [[TitleDrop for better or for worse]]. The fact that this includes stopping a massive war is incidental.




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* ''Fanfic/ToughLove'' features Charlie putting his foot down and calling Bella out on her self-serving attitude and how she believes this applies to her, [[TakingAdvantageOfGenerosity taking the kindness and compassion of others]] completely for granted and not caring one whit about how her behavior hurts those around her.

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