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Sick Sad World is a horror and true crime podcast. The hosts are Dev Ramsawakh[[note: who did this podcast under a different name]], a nonbinary model and freelance writer, and Jasmine Patterson, a female digital artist and gamer. There are also guest hosts from time to time.

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Sick Sad World is a horror and true crime podcast. The hosts are Dev Ramsawakh[[note: who Ramsawakh [[note]]who did this podcast under a different name]], name[[/note]], a nonbinary model and freelance writer, and Jasmine Patterson, a female digital artist and gamer. There are also guest hosts from time to time.
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Sick Sad World is a horror and true crime podcast. The hosts are Mari Ramsawakh, a nonbinary model and freelance writer, and Jasmine Patterson, a female digital artist and gamer. There are also guest hosts from time to time.

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Sick Sad World is a horror and true crime podcast. The hosts are Mari Ramsawakh, Dev Ramsawakh[[note: who did this podcast under a different name]], a nonbinary model and freelance writer, and Jasmine Patterson, a female digital artist and gamer. There are also guest hosts from time to time.



In 2019, it was announced that the show was on hiatus. Mari has since called the podcast [[https://twitter.com/merkyywaters/status/1240695907017830400 defunct]] on their personal Twitter account.

The show is available on [[https://soundcloud.com/sicksadworldpod Soundcloud]], [[https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/sick-sad-world/id1363224678?mt=2 iTunes]], [[https://play.google.com/music/listen?t=Sick_Sad_World&pcampaignid=MKT-na-all-co-pr-mu-pod-16&view=/ps/Ijbw7gtdi7f3wuuh5gi5qcdgpju Google Play]], and [[https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/indivisible-writing/sick-sad-world Stitcher]]. The [[https://indivisiblewriting.com/sick-sad-world/listen/ official page]] for it is on Mari's blog.

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In 2019, it was announced that the show was on hiatus. Mari Dev has since called the podcast [[https://twitter.com/merkyywaters/status/1240695907017830400 defunct]] on their personal Twitter account.

The show is available on [[https://soundcloud.com/sicksadworldpod Soundcloud]], [[https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/sick-sad-world/id1363224678?mt=2 iTunes]], [[https://play.google.com/music/listen?t=Sick_Sad_World&pcampaignid=MKT-na-all-co-pr-mu-pod-16&view=/ps/Ijbw7gtdi7f3wuuh5gi5qcdgpju Google Play]], and [[https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/indivisible-writing/sick-sad-world Stitcher]]. The [[https://indivisiblewriting.com/sick-sad-world/listen/ official page]] for it is was on Mari's Dev's blog.



* BedTrick: Mentioned in "Haunted Mansions"; they get to talking about ''Series/AmericanHorrorStory''. When the show had a woman have sex with a being she thought was her husband but was actually the ghost of her teenage neighbor, Mari started to like the series less.

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* BedTrick: Mentioned in "Haunted Mansions"; they get to talking about ''Series/AmericanHorrorStory''. When the show had a woman have sex with a being she thought was her husband but was actually the ghost of her teenage neighbor, Mari Dev started to like the series less.



* ContentWarnings: Uses them frequently, both in the podcasts themselves and in the show notes. It's stated that these were one of the first things hosts Jasmine and Mari agreed upon before they started the podcast.

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* ContentWarnings: Uses them frequently, both in the podcasts themselves and in the show notes. It's stated that these were one of the first things hosts Jasmine and Mari Dev agreed upon before they started the podcast.



* CreepyDoll: "Creepy Stories - It Happened To A Friend Of A Friend" starts with a story about a dancing baby toy Mari had, which Jasmine calls nightmare fuel. It's described as pale, half-naked, and having emotionless eyes. It also seemed to have moved on its own.
* DeathOfAChild: “2 Cruel 4 School” talks about 6-year-olds being murdered. As Jasmine and Mari state, no one should have to wonder if sending their kid to school will end in death.

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* CreepyDoll: "Creepy Stories - It Happened To A Friend Of A Friend" starts with a story about a dancing baby toy Mari Dev had, which Jasmine calls nightmare fuel. It's described as pale, half-naked, and having emotionless eyes. It also seemed to have moved on its own.
* DeathOfAChild: “2 Cruel 4 School” talks about 6-year-olds being murdered. As Jasmine and Mari Dev state, no one should have to wonder if sending their kid to school will end in death.



* EvenEvilHasStandards: In "Haunted Mansions", it's mentioned that Madam [=LaLaurie's=] treatment of people she had enslaved was considered awful by other people in her social circles. As Jasmine and Mari note, these were people who didn't have moral issues with slavery and still thought [=LaLaurie=] was needed to be stopped.

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* EvenEvilHasStandards: In "Haunted Mansions", it's mentioned that Madam [=LaLaurie's=] treatment of people she had enslaved was considered awful by other people in her social circles. As Jasmine and Mari Dev note, these were people who didn't have moral issues with slavery and still thought [=LaLaurie=] was needed to be stopped.



* GroinAttack: {{Implied|Trope}} during the Elliot Rodger case. One of the people Rodger murdered was stabbed 94 times, half of which on his lower body. Mari remarks Rodger might have been working some things out.

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* GroinAttack: {{Implied|Trope}} during the Elliot Rodger case. One of the people Rodger murdered was stabbed 94 times, half of which on his lower body. Mari Dev remarks Rodger might have been working some things out.



* InsaneEqualsViolent: Subverted. When talking about the Sandy Hook shooter, Mari and Jasmine note that his mental illness alone didn’t account for the murders he committed.

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* InsaneEqualsViolent: Subverted. {{Subverted|trope}}. When talking about the Sandy Hook shooter, Mari Dev and Jasmine note that his mental illness alone didn’t account for the murders he committed.



** The same episode has a guy claiming aliens wanted him to be sentenced to death so they could save him at the last minute and prove their existence. Mari and Jasmine point out if the aliens were that powerful, they could easily find another way to prove they are real.

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** The same episode has a guy claiming aliens wanted him to be sentenced to death so they could save him at the last minute and prove their existence. Mari Dev and Jasmine point out if the aliens were that powerful, they could easily find another way to prove they are real.



-->'''Mari:''' So his solution to his disappointing family and financial woes? Murder.\\

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-->'''Mari:''' -->'''Dev:''' So his solution to his disappointing family and financial woes? Murder.\\



'''Mari''': The only way to handle anything is to just murder your way out of it.\\

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'''Mari''': '''Dev''': The only way to handle anything is to just murder your way out of it.\\



** Mari serves as a much less scary example. They've been interested in horror from a young age.

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** Mari Dev serves as a much less scary example. They've been interested in horror from a young age.



** In the episode “Marginalized In True Crime”, Mari and guest host Kitty have a long discussion about the murder of 11 year old Riya Rajkumar by her father. They both found it hard because she could have been one of their family members. They also realized her mother would constantly be reminded of it because Riya went missing on Valentine’s Day, which was also her mom’s birthday.

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** In the episode “Marginalized In True Crime”, Mari Dev and guest host Kitty have a long discussion about the murder of 11 year old Riya Rajkumar by her father. They both found it hard because she could have been one of their family members. They also realized her mother would constantly be reminded of it because Riya went missing on Valentine’s Day, which was also her mom’s birthday.



* OuijaBoard: Mari's mother shares a story about when she, her sister, and a friend used one. A cat spirit possessed her niece, which freaked her out enough to forbid Mari from playing with a Ouija board.

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* OuijaBoard: Mari's Dev's mother shares a story about when she, her sister, and a friend used one. A cat spirit possessed her niece, which freaked her out enough to forbid Mari Dev from playing with a Ouija board.



* StalkerWithACrush: The first case on "Mysterious and Unsolved Cases" features one of these. When said stalker's target is kidnapped and murdered, he takes up calling her mother and saying "I've got her" or "I killed her". Mari and Jasmine speculate he wasn't the killer. Instead, he kept calling because he wanted the target of his obsession found and to continue having power related to her by harassing her mom.

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* StalkerWithACrush: The first case on "Mysterious and Unsolved Cases" features one of these. When said stalker's target is kidnapped and murdered, he takes up calling her mother and saying "I've got her" or "I killed her". Mari Dev and Jasmine speculate he wasn't the killer. Instead, he kept calling because he wanted the target of his obsession found and to continue having power related to her by harassing her mom.



* WellIntentionedExtremist: In "Cult Classics", Mari and Jasmine remark that cult leader Jim Jones had some good ideas about religion and the Bible, but his context for them was awful.
* WhatMeasureIsANonCute: In "The Aliens Made Me Do It!", Jasmine and Mari advise any shapeshifting aliens arriving on earth to take the form of a cute animal that humans aren't trying to wipe out. They go on a tangent about how they find chickens and pigs cute, but still enjoy eating chicken and bacon.

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* WellIntentionedExtremist: In "Cult Classics", Mari Dev and Jasmine remark that cult leader Jim Jones had some good ideas about religion and the Bible, but his context for them was awful.
* WhatMeasureIsANonCute: In "The Aliens Made Me Do It!", Jasmine and Mari Dev advise any shapeshifting aliens arriving on earth to take the form of a cute animal that humans aren't trying to wipe out. They go on a tangent about how they find chickens and pigs cute, but still enjoy eating chicken and bacon.
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* BuryYourDisabled: In "The Dangers Of Being Disabled", the first case is about a disabled girl murdered by her father. The hosts vehemently disagree that it was a mercy kill.

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* BuryYourDisabled: In "The Dangers Of Being Disabled", the first case is about a disabled girl murdered by her father. The hosts vehemently disagree with the idea that it was a mercy kill.{{mercy kill}}.



** One episode talks about a man who said aliens were threatening him. This guy later got arrested for child porn and claimed not only did aliens plant it, they also erased a hard drive of his, which police suspected had some incriminating evidence. The hosts point out it doesn't make sense that they would destroy evidence if they wanted him to get in trouble.

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** One episode talks about a man who said aliens were threatening him. This guy later got arrested for child porn and claimed not only did aliens plant it, they also erased a hard drive of his, which police suspected had some incriminating evidence. The hosts point out it doesn't make sense that they the aliens would destroy evidence if they wanted him to get in trouble.



* Main/{{Matricide}}:

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* Main/{{Matricide}}:{{Matricide}}:



* MercyKill: Subverted. One killer framed his murder of his daughter with cerebal palsy (among other things) as this. Guest host Andrew Gurza said he had most of the same disabilities as the victim and found it scary that killing her was so easy for her dad. All the hosts found it disturbing that a lot of people agreed it was an act of compassion rather than something selfish and cruel.

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* MercyKill: Subverted. One killer framed his murder of his daughter with cerebal cerebral palsy (among other things) as this. Guest host Andrew Gurza said he had most of the same disabilities as the victim and found it scary that killing her was so easy for her dad. All the hosts found it disturbing that a lot of people agreed it was an act of compassion rather than something selfish and cruel.



** The first episode has the hosts unsurprised that a Black serial killer didn't make the news after they find out his victims were women of color. The same episode also discusses a serial killer who targeted men, and didn't get much attention until he killed a white man rather than a Middle Eastern one.

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** The first episode has the hosts unsurprised that a Black black serial killer didn't make the news after they find out his victims were women of color. The same episode also discusses a serial killer who targeted men, and didn't get much attention until he killed a white man rather than a Middle Eastern one.



'''Jasmine''': 'cause that always works out properly.\\

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'''Jasmine''': 'cause that always works out properly.\\



** The same episode mentions how police frequently brush off [[MissingWhiteWomanSyndrome brown LGBT+ people going missing]].

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** The same episode mentions how police all too frequently brush off [[MissingWhiteWomanSyndrome brown LGBT+ people going missing]].



* WellIntentionedExtremist: In "Cult Classics", Mari and Jasmine remark that cult leader Jim Jones had good ideas about religion and the Bible, but his context for them was awful.

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* WellIntentionedExtremist: In "Cult Classics", Mari and Jasmine remark that cult leader Jim Jones had some good ideas about religion and the Bible, but his context for them was awful.

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* AdultFear: “2 Cruel 4 School” talks about 6-year-olds being murdered. As Jasmine and Mari state, no one should have to wonder if sending their kid to school will end in death.


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* DeathOfAChild: “2 Cruel 4 School” talks about 6-year-olds being murdered. As Jasmine and Mari state, no one should have to wonder if sending their kid to school will end in death.

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Sick Sad World is a horror and true crime podcast. The hosts are Mari Ramsawakh, a nonbinary model and freelance writer, and Jasmine Patterson, a female digital artist and gamer.

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Sick Sad World is a horror and true crime podcast. The hosts are Mari Ramsawakh, a nonbinary model and freelance writer, and Jasmine Patterson, a female digital artist and gamer.
gamer. There are also guest hosts from time to time.



* BreatherEpisode: "Haunted Mansion" was released shortly after "The Dangers Of Being Disabled", which was about [[BuryYourDisabled disabled people being murdered]]. The hosts explicitly say this is to allow for something a little more light-hearted, though the episode does discuss slavery and the some of the horrible stuff that comes with that.

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* BreatherEpisode: BreatherEpisode:
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"Haunted Mansion" was released shortly after "The Dangers Of Being Disabled", which was about [[BuryYourDisabled disabled people being murdered]]. The hosts explicitly say this is to allow for something a little more light-hearted, though the episode does discuss slavery and the some of the horrible stuff that comes with that.



* FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse: The hosts have no sympathy for serial killer Ed Kemper when he claims his mom was awful towards him. They point out even if she was abusive, he didn't need to kill multiple women.

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* FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse: FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse:
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The hosts have no sympathy for serial killer Ed Kemper when he claims his mom was awful towards him. They point out even if she was abusive, he didn't need to kill multiple women.



* GroinAttack: Implied during the Elliot Rodger case. One of the people Rodger murdered was stabbed 94 times, half of which on his lower body. Mari remarks Rodger might have been working some things out.

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* GroinAttack: Implied {{Implied|Trope}} during the Elliot Rodger case. One of the people Rodger murdered was stabbed 94 times, half of which on his lower body. Mari remarks Rodger might have been working some things out.



* Main/{{Matricide}}: The episode "Writers Who Kill" includes a case about two friends who end up murdering one's mother.

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* Main/{{Matricide}}: Main/{{Matricide}}:
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The episode "Writers Who Kill" includes a case about two friends who end up murdering one's mother.



* MurderIsTheBestSolution: [[SarcasmMode Sarcastically stated]] during "Fathers Who Kill".

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* MurderIsTheBestSolution: [[SarcasmMode Sarcastically stated]] stated during "Fathers Who Kill".



* OffingTheOffspring: "The Dangers Of Being Disabled" has a case of a man murdering his daughter in a supposed mercy kill.

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* OffingTheOffspring: OffingTheOffspring:
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"The Dangers Of Being Disabled" has a case of a man murdering his daughter in a supposed mercy kill.kill.
** In the episode “Marginalized In True Crime”, Mari and guest host Kitty have a long discussion about the murder of 11 year old Riya Rajkumar by her father. They both found it hard because she could have been one of their family members. They also realized her mother would constantly be reminded of it because Riya went missing on Valentine’s Day, which was also her mom’s birthday.



* OuijaBoard: Mari's mother shares a story about when she, her sister, and a friend used one. A cat spirit possessed her niece, which freaked her out enough to forbid Mari from playing with a ouija board.
* PaterFamilicide: *"Fathers In Crime" defines the term family annihilators (people who kill their entire families, usually in one rampage), and the episode’s two cases focus on such murderers.

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* OuijaBoard: Mari's mother shares a story about when she, her sister, and a friend used one. A cat spirit possessed her niece, which freaked her out enough to forbid Mari from playing with a ouija Ouija board.
* PaterFamilicide: *"Fathers PaterFamilicide:
** "Fathers
In Crime" defines the term family annihilators (people who kill their entire families, usually in one rampage), and the episode’s two cases focus on such murderers.



* SarcasmMode: A man who couldn't hold down a job and thought his family wasn't properly Christian decided to solve his problems by killing everyone in his household.
-->'''Mari:''' So his solution to his disappointing family and financial woes? Murder.\\
'''Jasmine''': That's clearly the solution. Clearly.\\
'''Mari''': The only way to handle anything is to just murder your way out of it.\\
'''Jasmine''': 'cause that always works out properly.\\



* ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill: It’s noted how much energy it takes to stab a person once, and one killer decided to stab a victim ‘ninety-four times’.

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* ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill: It’s noted how much energy it takes to stab a person once, and one killer decided to stab a victim ‘ninety-four times’.''ninety-four times''.



* WouldHurtAChild: One of the reasons the Jonestown murder-suicide was so tragic was that infants were among the casualties.

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* WouldHurtAChild: WouldHurtAChild:
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One of the reasons the Jonestown murder-suicide was so tragic was that infants were among the casualties.
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** They have somewhat more sympathy for Andrew Lanza, due to his pre-established mental illness, but they’re horrified that [[WouldHurtAChild he decided to kill kids]].

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** They have somewhat more sympathy for Andrew Adam Lanza, due to his pre-established mental illness, but they’re horrified that [[WouldHurtAChild he decided to kill kids]].



** Also comes up in an unsolved murder of a woman. A stalker of the victim spent several years calling her mom to say "I've got her" or "I killed her". The one day the murder victim's father picked up, the stalker backed down and didn't call again.

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** Also comes up in an the unsolved murder of a woman.Dorothy Jane Scott. A stalker of the victim spent several years calling her mom to say "I've got her" or "I killed her". The one day the murder victim's father picked up, the stalker backed down and didn't call again.
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* NotSoDifferent:
** One episode focuses on the respective cults formed by Charles Manson and Jim Jones. While they were on opposite ends of the political spectrum and had different intended outcomes, both were responsible for a lot of deaths.
** Inverted in "Father In Crime". Both of the cases discussed during that episode involve religious fathers and entire families being murdered. But in the first case, a man used his religious beliefs as an excuse for killing his family. In the second case, a man decides to forgive the killers of his wife and son, even after finding out his other son planned the murders.
** In "Missing And Murdered", Mari and Jasmine point out that for all Canada's ragging on the USA, the former is just as bad when it comes to treatment of indigenous people.
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In 2019, it was announced that the show was on hiatus. Mari has since called the podcast defunct on their personal Twitter account.

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In 2019, it was announced that the show was on hiatus. Mari has since called the podcast defunct [[https://twitter.com/merkyywaters/status/1240695907017830400 defunct]] on their personal Twitter account.
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** "Killer Confessions" brings up Ed Kemper, whose victims included his mother.



** "Killer Confessions" brings up Ed Kemper, whose victims included his mother.

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Sick Sad World is a horror and true crime podcast. The hosts are Mari Ramsawakh, a nonbinary model and freelance writer, and Jasmin Burems, a female digital artist and gamer.

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Sick Sad World is a horror and true crime podcast. The hosts are Mari Ramsawakh, a nonbinary model and freelance writer, and Jasmin Burems, Jasmine Patterson, a female digital artist and gamer.



* AdultFear: “2 Cruel 4 School” talks about 6-year-olds being murdered. As Jasmin and Mari state, no one should have to wonder if sending their kid to school will end in death.

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* AdultFear: “2 Cruel 4 School” talks about 6-year-olds being murdered. As Jasmin Jasmine and Mari state, no one should have to wonder if sending their kid to school will end in death.



* ContentWarnings: Uses them frequently, both in the podcasts themselves and in the show notes. It's stated that these were one of the first things hosts Jasmin and Mari agreed upon before they started the podcast.

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* ContentWarnings: Uses them frequently, both in the podcasts themselves and in the show notes. It's stated that these were one of the first things hosts Jasmin Jasmine and Mari agreed upon before they started the podcast.



* CreepyDoll: "Creepy Stories - It Happened To A Friend Of A Friend" starts with a story about a dancing baby toy Mari had, which Jasmin calls nightmare fuel. It's described as pale, half-naked, and having emotionless eyes. It also seemed to have moved on its own.

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* CreepyDoll: "Creepy Stories - It Happened To A Friend Of A Friend" starts with a story about a dancing baby toy Mari had, which Jasmin Jasmine calls nightmare fuel. It's described as pale, half-naked, and having emotionless eyes. It also seemed to have moved on its own.



* EvenEvilHasStandards: In "Haunted Mansions", it's mentioned that Madam [=LaLaurie's=] treatment of people she had enslaved was considered awful by other people in her social circles. As Jasmin and Mari note, these were people who didn't have moral issues with slavery and still thought [=LaLaurie=] was needed to be stopped.

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* EvenEvilHasStandards: In "Haunted Mansions", it's mentioned that Madam [=LaLaurie's=] treatment of people she had enslaved was considered awful by other people in her social circles. As Jasmin Jasmine and Mari note, these were people who didn't have moral issues with slavery and still thought [=LaLaurie=] was needed to be stopped.



* InsaneEqualsViolent: Subverted. When talking about the Sandy Hook shooter, Mari and Jasmin note that his mental illness alone didn’t account for the murders he committed.

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* InsaneEqualsViolent: Subverted. When talking about the Sandy Hook shooter, Mari and Jasmin Jasmine note that his mental illness alone didn’t account for the murders he committed.



** The same episode has a guy claiming aliens wanted him to be sentenced to death so they could save him at the last minute and prove their existence. Mari and Jasmin point out if the aliens were that powerful, they could easily find another way to prove they are real.

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** The same episode has a guy claiming aliens wanted him to be sentenced to death so they could save him at the last minute and prove their existence. Mari and Jasmin Jasmine point out if the aliens were that powerful, they could easily find another way to prove they are real.



* Main/{{Matricide}}: The episode "Writers Who Kill" includes a case about two friends who end up murdering one's mother.



** Jasmin developed a fear of clowns after a childhood incident where she saw an older child dressed as a scary clown.

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** Jasmin Jasmine developed a fear of clowns after a childhood incident where she saw an older child dressed as a scary clown.



'''Jasmin''': That's clearly the solution. Clearly.\\

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'''Jasmin''': '''Jasmine''': That's clearly the solution. Clearly.\\



'''Jasmin''': 'cause that always works out properly.\\

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'''Jasmin''': '''Jasmine''': 'cause that always works out properly.\\



** In "Missing And Murdered", Mari and Jasmin point out that for all Canada's ragging on the USA, the former is just as bad when it comes to treatment of indigenous people.

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** In "Missing And Murdered", Mari and Jasmin Jasmine point out that for all Canada's ragging on the USA, the former is just as bad when it comes to treatment of indigenous people.



'''Jasmin''': That's clearly the solution. Clearly.\\

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'''Jasmin''': '''Jasmine''': That's clearly the solution. Clearly.\\



'''Jasmin''': 'cause that always works out properly.\\

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'''Jasmin''': '''Jasmine''': 'cause that always works out properly.\\



** "Writers Who Kill" includes a case about two friends who end up murdering one's mother.
** The first case in "Fathers In Crime" has a family man kill everyone in his family, among them his mother. The second case is about a college-age man who killed several of his family members, including his mother. He meant to kill his father as well, but it didn't work out that way.

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** "Writers Who Kill" includes a case about two friends who end up murdering one's mother.
** The first second case in "Fathers In Crime" has a family man kill everyone in his family, among them his mother. The second case is about a college-age man who killed several of his family members, including his mother. He meant to kill his father as well, but it didn't work out that way.



* StalkerWithACrush: The first case on "Mysterious and Unsolved Cases" features one of these. When said stalker's target is kidnapped and murdered, he takes up calling her mother and saying "I've got her" or "I killed her". Mari and Jasmin speculate he wasn't the killer. Instead, he kept calling because he wanted the target of his obsession found and to continue having power related to her by harassing her mom.

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* StalkerWithACrush: The first case on "Mysterious and Unsolved Cases" features one of these. When said stalker's target is kidnapped and murdered, he takes up calling her mother and saying "I've got her" or "I killed her". Mari and Jasmin Jasmine speculate he wasn't the killer. Instead, he kept calling because he wanted the target of his obsession found and to continue having power related to her by harassing her mom.



* WellIntentionedExtremist: In "Cult Classics", Mari and Jasmin remark that cult leader Jim Jones had good ideas about religion and the Bible, but his context for them was awful.
* WhatMeasureIsANonCute: In "The Aliens Made Me Do It!", Jasmin and Mari advise any shapeshifting aliens arriving on earth to take the form of a cute animal that humans aren't trying to wipe out. They go on a tangent about how they find chickens and pigs cute, but still enjoy eating chicken and bacon.

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* WellIntentionedExtremist: In "Cult Classics", Mari and Jasmin Jasmine remark that cult leader Jim Jones had good ideas about religion and the Bible, but his context for them was awful.
* WhatMeasureIsANonCute: In "The Aliens Made Me Do It!", Jasmin Jasmine and Mari advise any shapeshifting aliens arriving on earth to take the form of a cute animal that humans aren't trying to wipe out. They go on a tangent about how they find chickens and pigs cute, but still enjoy eating chicken and bacon.
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Sick Sad World is a horror and true crime podcast. The hosts are Mari, a nonbinary model and freelance writer, and Jasmine, a female digital artist and gamer.

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Sick Sad World is a horror and true crime podcast. The hosts are Mari, Mari Ramsawakh, a nonbinary model and freelance writer, and Jasmine, Jasmin Burems, a female digital artist and gamer.



* AdultFear: “2 Cruel 4 School” talks about 6-year-olds being murdered. As Jasmine and Mari state, no one should have to wonder if sending their kid to school will end in death.

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* AdultFear: “2 Cruel 4 School” talks about 6-year-olds being murdered. As Jasmine Jasmin and Mari state, no one should have to wonder if sending their kid to school will end in death.



* ContentWarnings: Uses them frequently, both in the podcasts themselves and in the show notes. It's stated that these were one of the first things hosts Jasmine and Mari agreed upon before they started the podcast.

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* ContentWarnings: Uses them frequently, both in the podcasts themselves and in the show notes. It's stated that these were one of the first things hosts Jasmine Jasmin and Mari agreed upon before they started the podcast.



* CreepyDoll: "Creepy Stories - It Happened To A Friend Of A Friend" starts with a story about a dancing baby toy Mari had, which Jasmine calls nightmare fuel. It's described as pale, half-naked, and having emotionless eyes. It also seemed to have moved on its own.

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* CreepyDoll: "Creepy Stories - It Happened To A Friend Of A Friend" starts with a story about a dancing baby toy Mari had, which Jasmine Jasmin calls nightmare fuel. It's described as pale, half-naked, and having emotionless eyes. It also seemed to have moved on its own.



* EvenEvilHasStandards: In "Haunted Mansions", it's mentioned that Madam [=LaLaurie's=] treatment of people she had enslaved was considered awful by other people in her social circles. As Jasmine and Mari note, these were people who didn't have moral issues with slavery and still thought [=LaLaurie=] was needed to be stopped.

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* EvenEvilHasStandards: In "Haunted Mansions", it's mentioned that Madam [=LaLaurie's=] treatment of people she had enslaved was considered awful by other people in her social circles. As Jasmine Jasmin and Mari note, these were people who didn't have moral issues with slavery and still thought [=LaLaurie=] was needed to be stopped.



* InsaneEqualsViolent: Subverted. When talking about the Sandy Hook shooter, Mari and Jasmine note that his mental illness alone didn’t account for the murders he committed.

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* InsaneEqualsViolent: Subverted. When talking about the Sandy Hook shooter, Mari and Jasmine Jasmin note that his mental illness alone didn’t account for the murders he committed.



** The same episode has a guy claiming aliens wanted him to be sentenced to death so they could save him at the last minute and prove their existence. Mari and Jasmine point out if the aliens were that powerful, they could easily find another way to prove they are real.

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** The same episode has a guy claiming aliens wanted him to be sentenced to death so they could save him at the last minute and prove their existence. Mari and Jasmine Jasmin point out if the aliens were that powerful, they could easily find another way to prove they are real.



** Jasmine developed a fear of clowns after a childhood incident where she saw an older child dressed as a scary clown.

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** Jasmine Jasmin developed a fear of clowns after a childhood incident where she saw an older child dressed as a scary clown.



'''Jasmine''': That's clearly the solution. Clearly.\\

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'''Jasmine''': '''Jasmin''': That's clearly the solution. Clearly.\\



'''Jasmine''': 'cause that always works out properly.\\

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'''Jasmine''': '''Jasmin''': 'cause that always works out properly.\\



** In "Missing And Murdered", Mari and Jasmine point out that for all Canada's ragging on the USA, the former is just as bad when it comes to treatment of indigenous people.

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** In "Missing And Murdered", Mari and Jasmine Jasmin point out that for all Canada's ragging on the USA, the former is just as bad when it comes to treatment of indigenous people.



'''Jasmine''': That's clearly the solution. Clearly.\\

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'''Jasmine''': '''Jasmin''': That's clearly the solution. Clearly.\\



'''Jasmine''': 'cause that always works out properly.\\

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'''Jasmine''': '''Jasmin''': 'cause that always works out properly.\\



* StalkerWithACrush: The first case on "Mysterious and Unsolved Cases" features one of these. When said stalker's target is kidnapped and murdered, he takes up calling her mother and saying "I've got her" or "I killed her". Mari and Jasmine speculate he wasn't the killer. Instead, he kept calling because he wanted the target of his obsession found and to continue having power related to her by harassing her mom.

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* StalkerWithACrush: The first case on "Mysterious and Unsolved Cases" features one of these. When said stalker's target is kidnapped and murdered, he takes up calling her mother and saying "I've got her" or "I killed her". Mari and Jasmine Jasmin speculate he wasn't the killer. Instead, he kept calling because he wanted the target of his obsession found and to continue having power related to her by harassing her mom.



* WellIntentionedExtremist: In "Cult Classics", Mari and Jasmine remark that cult leader Jim Jones had good ideas about religion and the Bible, but his context for them was awful.
* WhatMeasureIsANonCute: In "The Aliens Made Me Do It!", Jasmine and Mari advise any shapeshifting aliens arriving on earth to take the form of a cute animal that humans aren't trying to wipe out. They go on a tangent about how they find chickens and pigs cute, but still enjoy eating chicken and bacon.

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* WellIntentionedExtremist: In "Cult Classics", Mari and Jasmine Jasmin remark that cult leader Jim Jones had good ideas about religion and the Bible, but his context for them was awful.
* WhatMeasureIsANonCute: In "The Aliens Made Me Do It!", Jasmine Jasmin and Mari advise any shapeshifting aliens arriving on earth to take the form of a cute animal that humans aren't trying to wipe out. They go on a tangent about how they find chickens and pigs cute, but still enjoy eating chicken and bacon.
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At the start of the series, they would briefly talk about several different stories. Later, they changed the format so they could talk about two big stories in depth. They make an effort to focus on the victims of crimes, rather than just the killers themselves.
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** One episode is named "{{Franchise/Ghostbusters Who You Gonna Call?}}"

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** In “2 Cruel 4 School”, the first killer had a document on his computer about the supposed inherent selfishness of women. The second was a self-declared “incel” who murdered people in a mass shooting specifically because he was angry about not having a girlfriend.



** Subverted in "The Dangers Of Being Disabled". When talking about the murder of Tracy Latimer by her father Robert, guest host Andrew Gurza lists multiple routes the father could have taken that didn't require [[OffingTheOffspring murdering one's own child]].

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** Subverted in Comes up during "The Dangers Of Being Disabled". When talking about the murder of Tracy Latimer by her father Robert, guest host Andrew Gurza lists multiple routes the father could have taken that didn't require [[OffingTheOffspring murdering one's own child]].
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Sick Sad World is a horror and true crime podcast. The hosts are Mari, a nonbinary model and freelance writer, and Jasmine, a female digital artist and gamer.

At the start of the series, they would briefly talk about stories. Later, they changed the format so they could talk about two big stories in depth. They make an effort to focus on the victims of crimes, rather than just the killers themselves.

In 2019, it was announced that the show was on hiatus. Mari has since called the podcast defunct on their personal Twitter account.

The show is available on [[https://soundcloud.com/sicksadworldpod Soundcloud]], [[https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/sick-sad-world/id1363224678?mt=2 iTunes]], [[https://play.google.com/music/listen?t=Sick_Sad_World&pcampaignid=MKT-na-all-co-pr-mu-pod-16&view=/ps/Ijbw7gtdi7f3wuuh5gi5qcdgpju Google Play]], and [[https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/indivisible-writing/sick-sad-world Stitcher]]. The [[https://indivisiblewriting.com/sick-sad-world/listen/ official page]] for it is on Mari's blog.
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!!This podcast contains examples of the following:
* AdultFear: “2 Cruel 4 School” talks about 6-year-olds being murdered. As Jasmine and Mari state, no one should have to wonder if sending their kid to school will end in death.
* AssholeVictim: Child rapist Roman Polanski is listed among Ted Bundy's would-be victims. It's also mentioned Polanski cheated on his pregnant wife.
* AuthorTract: The hosts often state their political views during cases, sometimes for several minutes. They've covered legalizing sex work, capitalism, gun control, socialism, lack of trust in police, disability, and more.
* BedTrick: Mentioned in "Haunted Mansions"; they get to talking about ''Series/AmericanHorrorStory''. When the show had a woman have sex with a being she thought was her husband but was actually the ghost of her teenage neighbor, Mari started to like the series less.
* BeethovenWasAnAlienSpy: One murderer mentioned in "The Aliens Made Me Do It" claimed that many big name political figures were secretly aliens. Martin Luther King Jr. was listed among them.
* BreatherEpisode: "Haunted Mansion" was released shortly after "The Dangers Of Being Disabled", which was about [[BuryYourDisabled disabled people being murdered]]. The hosts explicitly say this is to allow for something a little more light-hearted, though the episode does discuss slavery and the some of the horrible stuff that comes with that.
** “2 Cruel 4 School” covers mass shootings, one of which resulted in the murder of 6-year-olds. The next episode was about the much lighter topic of horror movies and books.
* BuryYourDisabled: In "The Dangers Of Being Disabled", the first case is about a disabled girl murdered by her father. The hosts vehemently disagree that it was a mercy kill.
* CassandraTruth:
** A teacher went to the police after one of his students said her father was planning to kill her. [[PoliceAreUseless He was dismissed as stupid]].
** In another episode, drug users went to the cops to report a serial killer. They were ignored because they used drugs.
* ContentWarnings: Uses them frequently, both in the podcasts themselves and in the show notes. It's stated that these were one of the first things hosts Jasmine and Mari agreed upon before they started the podcast.
* CreepyChild: It's mentioned when Charles Manson was in the first grade, he manipulated classmates into hurting people he didn't like. Another infamous killer, Jim Jones, held funerals for animals and likely killed some of them.
* CreepyDoll: "Creepy Stories - It Happened To A Friend Of A Friend" starts with a story about a dancing baby toy Mari had, which Jasmine calls nightmare fuel. It's described as pale, half-naked, and having emotionless eyes. It also seemed to have moved on its own.
* DisposableSexWorker: Some of the killers they cover attacked sex workers because they were unlikely to be missed or [[PoliceAreUseless to have their deaths investigated]].
* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: A few early episodes feature crime updates, which are just quick discussions of recent crimes. After the show got its own social media pages, the crime updates moved there.
* EvenEvilHasStandards: In "Haunted Mansions", it's mentioned that Madam [=LaLaurie's=] treatment of people she had enslaved was considered awful by other people in her social circles. As Jasmine and Mari note, these were people who didn't have moral issues with slavery and still thought [=LaLaurie=] was needed to be stopped.
* FedToPigs: This is one of the ways a serial killer in "Missing And Murdered" disposed of his victims’ corpses.
* FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse: The hosts have no sympathy for serial killer Ed Kemper when he claims his mom was awful towards him. They point out even if she was abusive, he didn't need to kill multiple women.
** They have somewhat more sympathy for Andrew Lanza, due to his pre-established mental illness, but they’re horrified that [[WouldHurtAChild he decided to kill kids]].
* GroinAttack: Implied during the Elliot Rodger case. One of the people Rodger murdered was stabbed 94 times, half of which on his lower body. Mari remarks Rodger might have been working some things out.
* HorrorHippies: "Cult Classics" deals with well-known murderers Charles Manson and Jim Jones. The former founded a free love-style cult and wanted to start a race war. The latter was a preacher and an outspoken supporter of civil rights who descended into power hunger and ended up killing himself and most of his following.
* InsaneEqualsViolent: Subverted. When talking about the Sandy Hook shooter, Mari and Jasmine note that his mental illness alone didn’t account for the murders he committed.
* InsaneTrollLogic:
** One episode talks about a man who said aliens were threatening him. This guy later got arrested for child porn and claimed not only did aliens plant it, they also erased a hard drive of his, which police suspected had some incriminating evidence. The hosts point out it doesn't make sense that they would destroy evidence if they wanted him to get in trouble.
** The same episode has a guy claiming aliens wanted him to be sentenced to death so they could save him at the last minute and prove their existence. Mari and Jasmine point out if the aliens were that powerful, they could easily find another way to prove they are real.
* JackTheRipoff: What the first episode, "Trendsetters", is about. It even discusses trope namer Jack the Ripper's imitators.
* MercyKill: Subverted. One killer framed his murder of his daughter with cerebal palsy (among other things) as this. Guest host Andrew Gurza said he had most of the same disabilities as the victim and found it scary that killing her was so easy for her dad. All the hosts found it disturbing that a lot of people agreed it was an act of compassion rather than something selfish and cruel.
* MissingWhiteWomanSyndrome: Comes up a few times.
** The first episode has the hosts unsurprised that a Black serial killer didn't make the news after they find out his victims were women of color. The same episode also discusses a serial killer who targeted men, and didn't get much attention until he killed a white man rather than a Middle Eastern one.
** "Missing And Murdered" is about indigenous women who've [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin gone missing or been murdered]]. The title is shared with a larger movement bringing attention to cases of that nature.
*MonsterClown: Talked about in "Origins Of Scary Things".
** Jasmine developed a fear of clowns after a childhood incident where she saw an older child dressed as a scary clown.
** The hosts mention the then-common clown pranksters, and say people who try jokes like that should be prepared for their victims to know self-defense moves.
* MonsterMisogyny:
** Discussed in the Ed Kemper episode. He took much more pleasure in killing his mother and grandmother than he did in killing his grandfather. He also claimed he killed women because of his sexual inexperience.
** Also comes up in an unsolved murder of a woman. A stalker of the victim spent several years calling her mom to say "I've got her" or "I killed her". The one day the murder victim's father picked up, the stalker backed down and didn't call again.
** In “2 Cruel 4 School”, the first killer had a document on his computer about the supposed inherent selfishness of women. The second was a self-declared “incel” who murdered people in a mass shooting specifically because he was angry about not having a girlfriend.
* MurderTheHypotenuse: "Killer Couples" has a case of a couple murdering their teenage roommate because they thought she flirted with one of them.
* MurderIsTheBestSolution: [[SarcasmMode Sarcastically stated]] during "Fathers Who Kill".
-->'''Mari:''' So his solution to his disappointing family and financial woes? Murder.\\
'''Jasmine''': That's clearly the solution. Clearly.\\
'''Mari''': The only way to handle anything is to just murder your way out of it.\\
'''Jasmine''': 'cause that always works out properly.\\

** Subverted in "The Dangers Of Being Disabled". When talking about the murder of Tracy Latimer by her father Robert, guest host Andrew Gurza lists multiple routes the father could have taken that didn't require [[OffingTheOffspring murdering one's own child]].
* NightmareFetishist:
** A couple kissed over the corpse of a girl they murdered for supposedly [[MurderTheHypotenuse flirting with one of them]].
** Mari serves as a much less scary example. They've been interested in horror from a young age.
* NothingIsScarier: They theorize that the reason Jack the Ripper is so legendary is that we'll never know the truth about his identity or all his victims.
* NotSoDifferent:
** One episode focuses on the respective cults formed by Charles Manson and Jim Jones. While they were on opposite ends of the political spectrum and had different intended outcomes, both were responsible for a lot of deaths.
** Inverted in "Father In Crime". Both of the cases discussed during that episode involve religious fathers and entire families being murdered. But in the first case, a man used his religious beliefs as an excuse for killing his family. In the second case, a man decides to forgive the killers of his wife and son, even after finding out his other son planned the murders.
** In "Missing And Murdered", Mari and Jasmine point out that for all Canada's ragging on the USA, the former is just as bad when it comes to treatment of indigenous people.
* ObviouslyEvil: Charles Manson's actions during his trial (carving an X in his forehead he later turned into a swastika, attacking the judge and saying "I'm gonna kill you!") made it pretty clear he did it.
* OffingTheOffspring: "The Dangers Of Being Disabled" has a case of a man murdering his daughter in a supposed mercy kill.
* ParentalNeglect: One episode mentioned a mom who left her infant in her car while she snuck onto an inactive roller coaster.
* OuijaBoard: Mari's mother shares a story about when she, her sister, and a friend used one. A cat spirit possessed her niece, which freaked her out enough to forbid Mari from playing with a ouija board.
* PaterFamilicide: *"Fathers In Crime" defines the term family annihilators (people who kill their entire families, usually in one rampage), and the episode’s two cases focus on such murderers.
**”Who You Gonna Call?” talks about ''Literature/TheAmityvilleHorror''. The evil supernatural forces supposedly started with a young man murdered his parents and siblings.
* PoliceAreUseless:
** In a few cases, the police brushed off missing people as runaways, even in places where active serials killers operated.
** In the "Missing And Murdered" episode, the coroner's report of Della Ootoova's body was put off for so long, her killer died before it was done. They also somehow missed that her body was covered in bruises and bite marks.
** The same episode mentions how police frequently brush off [[MissingWhiteWomanSyndrome brown LGBT+ people going missing]].
** In "Fathers In Crime", a teenage girl told her teacher that her father was [[PaterFamilicide planning to kill her and the rest of the family]]. When the teacher reported this to police, they looked at him as if he were an idiot.
** In "Missing And Murdered", two different drug users who went to the police to report a serial killer were dismissed because the cops thought junkies couldn't be trusted.
* SarcasmMode: A man who couldn't hold down a job and thought his family wasn't properly Christian decided to solve his problems by killing everyone in his household.
-->'''Mari:''' So his solution to his disappointing family and financial woes? Murder.\\
'''Jasmine''': That's clearly the solution. Clearly.\\
'''Mari''': The only way to handle anything is to just murder your way out of it.\\
'''Jasmine''': 'cause that always works out properly.\\

* SelfMadeOrphan:
** "Writers Who Kill" includes a case about two friends who end up murdering one's mother.
** The first case in "Fathers In Crime" has a family man kill everyone in his family, among them his mother. The second case is about a college-age man who killed several of his family members, including his mother. He meant to kill his father as well, but it didn't work out that way.
** "Who You Gonna Call?" discusses a college age kid who killed his family, starting with his parents.
** "Killer Confessions" brings up Ed Kemper, whose victims included his mother.
* ShoutOut:
** The title is a ''{{WesternAnimation/Daria}}'' reference.
** One episode is named "{{Franchise/Ghostbusters Who You Gonna Call?}}"
* SigningOffCatchPhrase: "Don't be a murderer."
* StalkerWithACrush: The first case on "Mysterious and Unsolved Cases" features one of these. When said stalker's target is kidnapped and murdered, he takes up calling her mother and saying "I've got her" or "I killed her". Mari and Jasmine speculate he wasn't the killer. Instead, he kept calling because he wanted the target of his obsession found and to continue having power related to her by harassing her mom.
* ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill: It’s noted how much energy it takes to stab a person once, and one killer decided to stab a victim ‘ninety-four times’.
* ToxicFriendInfluence: In "Writers Who Kill"; one case focuses on a pair of girls who re-enforced each other's bad qualities until the two ended up committing murder.
* WellIntentionedExtremist: In "Cult Classics", Mari and Jasmine remark that cult leader Jim Jones had good ideas about religion and the Bible, but his context for them was awful.
* WhatMeasureIsANonCute: In "The Aliens Made Me Do It!", Jasmine and Mari advise any shapeshifting aliens arriving on earth to take the form of a cute animal that humans aren't trying to wipe out. They go on a tangent about how they find chickens and pigs cute, but still enjoy eating chicken and bacon.
* WouldHurtAChild: One of the reasons the Jonestown murder-suicide was so tragic was that infants were among the casualties.
** “2 Cruel 4 School” covers a mass shooting at a school, which got multiple kids as young as six killed.

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