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* UsefulNotes/YanksWithTanks: The US Military is obviously a faction in the war.



* {{UsefulNotes/Anarchism}}: Many of the hosts on the show, especially Evans and Garrison, are out and proud anarchists, and some episodes are dedicated to discussing how things would work in an anarchist society, or real life stories of anarchists throughout history.



* SecondPersonNarration: The opening episodes of the second season feature this in the narration segements.

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* DanBrowned: For a thought experiment that cites a lot of sources, there are a number of rather glaring inaccuracies and omissions:
** The final episode describes a balkanized and climate change-stricken future US where a Pacific Northwest rump state is managing to sustain itself fairly well, while the South and Midwest are experiencing mass crop failure and starvation. This… [[ArtisticLicenceGeography doesn’t make any sense]]. [[https://www.drought.gov/ Drought patterns]] in the US overlaid with its most [[https://www.usgs.gov/media/images/map-croplands-united-states arable farmland]] reveal the exact ''opposite'' scenario would occur, with just about everywhere west of the Rockies already on the path to become a drought and wildfire-ravaged wasteland. The Midwest/Great Lakes region meanwhile is set to remain a critical North American breadbasket and would likely become the new center of civilization in a post-collapse USA.
*** Considering the narration states the South and Midwest are controlled by far-right rump states and religious fanatics and that the suffering of these regions' citizens can be seen as “karmic justice", this could just be a case of AuthorTract crossed with CreatorProvincialism (Evans is based in Portland, OR, [[MyCountryTisOfTheeThatISting although]] [[CulturalCringe he is]] from [[BoomerangBigot Texas]]).
** Apart from a brief mention of the US’s fragile infrastructure in the first episode and the (incorrect) postwar scenario listed above, the podcast largely ignores the downright '''catastrophic''' supply chain disruption, collapse and re-consolidation that would inevitably occur during a nationwide civil war – the key decider of the outcome and the number one concern for the average American caught in the crossfire. Rebel-held cities are said to be under siege from the US military and rural militias, for example, yet just where said rebels are getting their food/potable water/meds/electricity/fuel/etc. is [[ApocalypticLogistics left unexplained]]. Evans, a veteran war correspondent, should ''really'' understand the overwhelming importance of supply lines in a war scenario.
** The podcast also makes zero mention of reactions or interventions/interference from foreign powers. It strains belief the US government or rebels wouldn’t call for help or if China, Russia and the rest of NATO would just idly stand by and watch as the world’s largest economy, most powerful and far-reaching military and holder of the global reserve currency tears itself apart. The only other country actively involved is Canada (they are said to supply weapons in one segment).



* GaiasLament: Part of the downer ending above. The former United States is wrecked by the consequences of climate change (and the states that remain in the power vacuum are unable to deal with it as effectively as the federal government would have.) Wildfire season is said to be 6 months out of the year, the coastal areas are flooded by rising tides, and the South and Midwest are left uninhabitable by constant mudslides and tornadoes (though see DanBrowned above for why this doesn't quite follow US climate projections).

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* GaiasLament: Part of the downer ending above. The former United States is wrecked by the consequences of climate change (and the states that remain in the power vacuum are unable to deal with it as effectively as the federal government would have.) Wildfire season is said to be 6 months out of the year, the coastal areas are flooded by rising tides, and the South and Midwest are left uninhabitable by constant mudslides and tornadoes (though see DanBrowned above for why this doesn't quite follow US climate projections).tornadoes.
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* DarkerAndEdgier: Compared to Evans' lighthearted, if not darkly humorous show ''Behind The Bastards'', there is very little humor in the first season of the show, and it focuses mainly on the horrors a second civil war would bring. The second season however, features the usual humor we have come to expect from ''Bastards'', as the format is more of a news and educational show.

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* DarkerAndEdgier: Compared to Evans' lighthearted, if not darkly humorous show ''Behind The Bastards'', there is very little humor in the first season of the show, show besides a dry joke here and there, and it focuses mainly on the horrors a second civil war would bring. The second season however, features the usual humor we have come to expect from ''Bastards'', as the format is more of a news and educational show.
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* DarkerAndEdgier: Compared to Evans' lighthearted, if not darkly humorous show ''Behind The Bastards'', there is very little humor in the first season of the show, and it focuses mainly on the horrors a second civil war would bring. The second season however, features the usual humor we have come to expect from ``Bastards``, as the format is more of a news show.

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* DarkerAndEdgier: Compared to Evans' lighthearted, if not darkly humorous show ''Behind The Bastards'', there is very little humor in the first season of the show, and it focuses mainly on the horrors a second civil war would bring. The second season however, features the usual humor we have come to expect from ``Bastards``, ''Bastards'', as the format is more of a news and educational show.
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* {{UsefulNotes/Anarchism}}: Many of the hosts on the show, especially Evans and Garrison, are out and proud anarchists, and some episodes are dedicated to discussing how things would work in an anarchist society, or real life stories of anarchists throughout history.


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* RippedFromTheHeadlines: The majority of season 2 has episodes discussing recent news stories, although the creators make it a point to not release an episode right when an event happens, and try to ensure enough information is available before discussing it.
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* DarkerAndEdgier: Compared to Evans' lighthearted, if not darkly humorous show ''Behind The Bastards'', there is very little humor in the first season of the show, and it focuses mainly on the horrors a second civil war would bring. The second season however, features the usual humor we have come to expect from ``Bastards``, as the format is more of a news show.


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!!The second season of this podcast contains examples of:
* LighterAndSofter: The second season in comparison to the first season. Minus the opening episodes of the second season, which focus on a collapse of the US due to a combination of climate change and political instability, the second season is more of a daily news show with the usual humor that the audience has come to expect from Evans' other shows like ''Behind The Bastards''.
* SecondPersonNarration: The opening episodes of the second season feature this in the narration segements.
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*** Considering the narration states the South and Midwest are controlled by far-right rump states and religious fanatics and that the suffering of these regions' citizens can be seen as “karmic justice", this could just be a case of AuthorTract crossed with CreatorProvincialism (Evans is based in Portland, OR, although he is from [[BoomerangBigot Texas]]).

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*** Considering the narration states the South and Midwest are controlled by far-right rump states and religious fanatics and that the suffering of these regions' citizens can be seen as “karmic justice", this could just be a case of AuthorTract crossed with CreatorProvincialism (Evans is based in Portland, OR, although [[MyCountryTisOfTheeThatISting although]] [[CulturalCringe he is is]] from [[BoomerangBigot Texas]]).
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*** Considering the narration states the South and Midwest are controlled by far-right rump states and religious fanatics and that the suffering of these regions' citizens can be seen as “karmic justice", this could just be a case of AuthorTract crossed with CreatorProvincialism (Evans is based in Portland, OR).

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*** Considering the narration states the South and Midwest are controlled by far-right rump states and religious fanatics and that the suffering of these regions' citizens can be seen as “karmic justice", this could just be a case of AuthorTract crossed with CreatorProvincialism (Evans is based in Portland, OR).OR, although he is from [[BoomerangBigot Texas]]).
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Listen to the podcast [[https://www.itcouldhappenherepod.com/ here.]] See also Evans' other work ''Podcast/BehindTheBastards'', a much more light-hearted work concerning the kind of person who could end up starting such a scenario in real life. He has also writen a novel based on many of the ideas presented in this podcast called ''Literature/AfterTheRevolution''. In August 2021, Evans announced that he was making a continuation of the podcast, called ''It Could Happen Here Daily'', which discusses other factors in society that could to collapse beyond a civil war.

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Listen to the podcast [[https://www.itcouldhappenherepod.com/ here.]] See also Evans' other work ''Podcast/BehindTheBastards'', a much more light-hearted work concerning the kind of person who could end up starting such a scenario in real life. He has also writen a novel based on many of the ideas presented in this podcast called ''Literature/AfterTheRevolution''. In August 2021, Evans announced that he was making a continuation of the podcast, called ''It Could Happen Here Daily'', which discusses other factors in society that could contribute to collapse beyond a civil war.
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*** Considering the narration states the South and Midwest are controlled by far-right rump states and religious fanatics and that the suffering of these regions' citizens can be seen as “karmic justice", this could just be an instance of AuthorTract crossed with CreatorProvincialism (Evans is based in Portland, OR).
** Apart from a brief mention of the US’s fragile infrastructure in the first episode and the (incorrect) postwar scenario listed above, the podcast largely ignores the downright ''catastrophic'' supply chain disruption, collapse and re-consolidation that would inevitably occur during a nationwide civil war – the key decider of the outcome and the number one concern for the average American caught in the crossfire. Rebel-held cities are said to be under siege from the US military and rural militias, for example, yet just where said rebels are getting their food/potable water/meds/electricity/fuel/etc. is [[ApocalypticLogistics left unexplained]]. Evans, a veteran war correspondent, should ''really'' understand the overwhelming importance of supply lines in a war scenario.

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*** Considering the narration states the South and Midwest are controlled by far-right rump states and religious fanatics and that the suffering of these regions' citizens can be seen as “karmic justice", this could just be an instance a case of AuthorTract crossed with CreatorProvincialism (Evans is based in Portland, OR).
** Apart from a brief mention of the US’s fragile infrastructure in the first episode and the (incorrect) postwar scenario listed above, the podcast largely ignores the downright ''catastrophic'' '''catastrophic''' supply chain disruption, collapse and re-consolidation that would inevitably occur during a nationwide civil war – the key decider of the outcome and the number one concern for the average American caught in the crossfire. Rebel-held cities are said to be under siege from the US military and rural militias, for example, yet just where said rebels are getting their food/potable water/meds/electricity/fuel/etc. is [[ApocalypticLogistics left unexplained]]. Evans, a veteran war correspondent, should ''really'' understand the overwhelming importance of supply lines in a war scenario.
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** Apart from a brief mention of the US’s fragile infrastructure in the first episode and the (incorrect) postwar scenario listed above, the podcast largely ignores the downright ''catastrophic'' supply chain disruption, collapse and re-consolidation that would inevitably occur during a nationwide civil war – the key decider of the outcome and the number one concern for the average American caught in the crossfire. Rebel-held cities are said to be under siege from the US military and rural militias, for example, yet just where said rebels are getting their food/potable water/meds/electricity/fuel/etc. is left unexplained. Evans, a veteran war correspondent, should ''really'' understand the overwhelming importance of supply lines in a war scenario.

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** Apart from a brief mention of the US’s fragile infrastructure in the first episode and the (incorrect) postwar scenario listed above, the podcast largely ignores the downright ''catastrophic'' supply chain disruption, collapse and re-consolidation that would inevitably occur during a nationwide civil war – the key decider of the outcome and the number one concern for the average American caught in the crossfire. Rebel-held cities are said to be under siege from the US military and rural militias, for example, yet just where said rebels are getting their food/potable water/meds/electricity/fuel/etc. is [[ApocalypticLogistics left unexplained.unexplained]]. Evans, a veteran war correspondent, should ''really'' understand the overwhelming importance of supply lines in a war scenario.
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* DanBrowned: For a podcast that cites a lot of sources, there are a number of rather glaring inaccuracies and omissions:

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* DanBrowned: For a podcast thought experiment that cites a lot of sources, there are a number of rather glaring inaccuracies and omissions:



*** Considering the narration states the South and Midwest are controlled by far-right rump states and religious fanatics and that the suffering of these regions' citizens can be seen as “karmic justice", this could also be an instance of AuthorTract crossed with CreatorProvincialism (Evans is based in Portland, OR).
** Apart from a brief mention of the US’s fragile infrastructure in the first episode and the (incorrect) postwar scenario listed above, the podcast largely ignores the downright ''catastrophic'' supply chain disruption, collapse and re-consolidation that would inevitably occur during a nationwide civil war – the number one concern for the average American caught in the crossfire. Rebel-held cities are said to be under siege from the US military and rural militias, for example, yet just where said rebels are getting their food/potable water/meds/electricity/fuel/etc. is left unexplained, practically to the point of ApocalypticLogistics. Evans, a veteran war correspondent, should ''really'' understand the overwhelming importance of supply lines in a war scenario.
** The podcast also makes zero mention of reactions or interventions/interference from foreign powers. It strains belief that the US government or rebels wouldn’t call for help or if China, Russia and the rest of NATO would just idly stand by and watch as the world’s largest economy, most powerful and far-reaching military and holder of the global reserve currency tears itself apart. The only other country actively involved is Canada (they are said to supply weapons in one segment).

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*** Considering the narration states the South and Midwest are controlled by far-right rump states and religious fanatics and that the suffering of these regions' citizens can be seen as “karmic justice", this could also just be an instance of AuthorTract crossed with CreatorProvincialism (Evans is based in Portland, OR).
** Apart from a brief mention of the US’s fragile infrastructure in the first episode and the (incorrect) postwar scenario listed above, the podcast largely ignores the downright ''catastrophic'' supply chain disruption, collapse and re-consolidation that would inevitably occur during a nationwide civil war – the key decider of the outcome and the number one concern for the average American caught in the crossfire. Rebel-held cities are said to be under siege from the US military and rural militias, for example, yet just where said rebels are getting their food/potable water/meds/electricity/fuel/etc. is left unexplained, practically to the point of ApocalypticLogistics.unexplained. Evans, a veteran war correspondent, should ''really'' understand the overwhelming importance of supply lines in a war scenario.
** The podcast also makes zero mention of reactions or interventions/interference from foreign powers. It strains belief that the US government or rebels wouldn’t call for help or if China, Russia and the rest of NATO would just idly stand by and watch as the world’s largest economy, most powerful and far-reaching military and holder of the global reserve currency tears itself apart. The only other country actively involved is Canada (they are said to supply weapons in one segment).



* GaiasLament: Part of the downer ending above. The former United States is wrecked by the consequences of climate change (and the states that remain in the power vacuum are unable to deal with it as effectively as the federal government would have.) Wildfire season is said to be 6 months out of the year, the coastal areas are flooded by rising tides, and the South and Midwest are left uninhabitable by constant mudslides and tornadoes (Though see DanBrowned above for why this doesn't quite follow US climate projections).

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* GaiasLament: Part of the downer ending above. The former United States is wrecked by the consequences of climate change (and the states that remain in the power vacuum are unable to deal with it as effectively as the federal government would have.) Wildfire season is said to be 6 months out of the year, the coastal areas are flooded by rising tides, and the South and Midwest are left uninhabitable by constant mudslides and tornadoes (Though (though see DanBrowned above for why this doesn't quite follow US climate projections).
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** The podcast also makes zero mention of reactions or interventions/interference from foreign powers. It strains belief that the US government or rebels wouldn’t call for help or if China, Russia and the rest of NATO would just idly stand by and watch as the world’s largest economy, most powerful and far-reaching military and holder of the global reserve currency tears itself apart. The only other country actively involved is Canada (they are said to supply weapons in one segment), and this Canadian troper can emphasize there’s almost zero chance Canada could even ''survive'' a second US civil war, let alone halt or regulate millions of American refugees from flooding north as the podcast claims.

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** The podcast also makes zero mention of reactions or interventions/interference from foreign powers. It strains belief that the US government or rebels wouldn’t call for help or if China, Russia and the rest of NATO would just idly stand by and watch as the world’s largest economy, most powerful and far-reaching military and holder of the global reserve currency tears itself apart. The only other country actively involved is Canada (they are said to supply weapons in one segment), and this Canadian troper can emphasize there’s almost zero chance Canada could even ''survive'' a second US civil war, let alone halt or regulate millions of American refugees from flooding north as the podcast claims.segment).
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* FromCamouflageToCriminal: A couple episodes detail how military personnel can make excellent insurgents should they decide to go against the US government. Evans cites [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Dorner_shootings_and_manhunt Christopher Dorner]] as an example of this.
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** The final episode describes a balkanized and climate change-stricken future US where a Pacific Northwest rump state is managing to sustain itself fairly well, while the South and Midwest are experiencing mass crop failure and starvation. This… [[ArtisticLicenceGeography doesn’t make any sense]]. [[https://www.drought.gov/ Drought patterns]] in the US overlaid with its most [[https://www.usgs.gov/media/images/map-croplands-united-states arable farmland]] reveal the exact ''opposite'' scenario would occur, with just about everywhere west of the Rockies already on the path to become a drought and wildfire-stricken inferno. The Midwest/Great Lakes region meanwhile is set to remain a critical North American breadbasket and would likely become the new center of civilization in a post-collapse USA.

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** The final episode describes a balkanized and climate change-stricken future US where a Pacific Northwest rump state is managing to sustain itself fairly well, while the South and Midwest are experiencing mass crop failure and starvation. This… [[ArtisticLicenceGeography doesn’t make any sense]]. [[https://www.drought.gov/ Drought patterns]] in the US overlaid with its most [[https://www.usgs.gov/media/images/map-croplands-united-states arable farmland]] reveal the exact ''opposite'' scenario would occur, with just about everywhere west of the Rockies already on the path to become a drought and wildfire-stricken inferno.wildfire-ravaged wasteland. The Midwest/Great Lakes region meanwhile is set to remain a critical North American breadbasket and would likely become the new center of civilization in a post-collapse USA.



** Apart from a brief mention of the US’s fragile infrastructure in the first episode and the (incorrect) postwar scenario listed above, the podcast largely ignores the downright ''catastrophic'' supply chain disruption, collapse and re-consolidation that would inevitably occur during a nationwide civil war – the number one concern for the average American caught in the crossfire. Rebel-held cities are described as under siege from the US military and rural militias, for example, yet no mention is made of where said rebels are getting their food/potable water/meds/electricity/fuel/etc., practically to the point of ApocalypticLogistics. Evans, a veteran war correspondent, should ''really'' understand the overwhelming importance of supply lines in a war scenario.
** The podcast also makes zero mention of reactions or interventions/interference from foreign powers. It strains belief that the US government or rebels wouldn’t call for help or if China, Russia and the rest of NATO would just idly stand by and watch as the world’s largest economy, most powerful and far-reaching military and holder of the global reserve currency tears itself apart. The only other country actively involved is Canada (they are said to supply weapons in one segment), and this Canadian troper can emphasize there’s almost zero chance Canada in its current state could even survive a second US civil war, let alone halt or regulate millions of American refugees from flooding north as the podcast claims.

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** Apart from a brief mention of the US’s fragile infrastructure in the first episode and the (incorrect) postwar scenario listed above, the podcast largely ignores the downright ''catastrophic'' supply chain disruption, collapse and re-consolidation that would inevitably occur during a nationwide civil war – the number one concern for the average American caught in the crossfire. Rebel-held cities are described as said to be under siege from the US military and rural militias, for example, yet no mention is made of just where said rebels are getting their food/potable water/meds/electricity/fuel/etc., water/meds/electricity/fuel/etc. is left unexplained, practically to the point of ApocalypticLogistics. Evans, a veteran war correspondent, should ''really'' understand the overwhelming importance of supply lines in a war scenario.
** The podcast also makes zero mention of reactions or interventions/interference from foreign powers. It strains belief that the US government or rebels wouldn’t call for help or if China, Russia and the rest of NATO would just idly stand by and watch as the world’s largest economy, most powerful and far-reaching military and holder of the global reserve currency tears itself apart. The only other country actively involved is Canada (they are said to supply weapons in one segment), and this Canadian troper can emphasize there’s almost zero chance Canada in its current state could even survive ''survive'' a second US civil war, let alone halt or regulate millions of American refugees from flooding north as the podcast claims.
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** The final episode describes a balkanized and climate change-stricken future US where a Pacific Northwest rump state is managing to sustain itself fairly well, while the South and Midwest are experiencing mass crop failure and starvation. This… [[ArtisticLicenceGeography doesn’t make any sense]]. [[https://www.drought.gov/ Drought patterns]] in the US overlaid with its most [[https://www.usgs.gov/media/images/map-croplands-united-states arable farmland]] reveal the exact ''opposite'' scenario would occur, with just about everywhere west of the Rockies already on the path to become a drought and wildfire-stricken inferno, while the Midwest/Great Lakes region in particular is set to remain a critical North American breadbasket and would likely become the new center of civilization in a post-collapse USA.

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** The final episode describes a balkanized and climate change-stricken future US where a Pacific Northwest rump state is managing to sustain itself fairly well, while the South and Midwest are experiencing mass crop failure and starvation. This… [[ArtisticLicenceGeography doesn’t make any sense]]. [[https://www.drought.gov/ Drought patterns]] in the US overlaid with its most [[https://www.usgs.gov/media/images/map-croplands-united-states arable farmland]] reveal the exact ''opposite'' scenario would occur, with just about everywhere west of the Rockies already on the path to become a drought and wildfire-stricken inferno, while the inferno. The Midwest/Great Lakes region in particular meanwhile is set to remain a critical North American breadbasket and would likely become the new center of civilization in a post-collapse USA.



** The podcast also makes zero mention of reactions or interventions/interference from foreign powers, as if the US government or rebels wouldn’t call for help or if China, Russia and the rest of NATO would just idly stand by and watch as the world’s largest economy, most powerful and far-reaching military and holder of the global reserve currency tears itself apart. The only other country actively involved is Canada (they are said to supply weapons in one segment), and this Canadian troper can emphasize there’s almost zero chance Canada in its current state could even survive a second US civil war, let alone halt or regulate millions of American refugees from flooding north as the podcast claims.

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** The podcast also makes zero mention of reactions or interventions/interference from foreign powers, as if powers. It strains belief that the US government or rebels wouldn’t call for help or if China, Russia and the rest of NATO would just idly stand by and watch as the world’s largest economy, most powerful and far-reaching military and holder of the global reserve currency tears itself apart. The only other country actively involved is Canada (they are said to supply weapons in one segment), and this Canadian troper can emphasize there’s almost zero chance Canada in its current state could even survive a second US civil war, let alone halt or regulate millions of American refugees from flooding north as the podcast claims.
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** The final episode describes a balkanized and climate change-stricken future US where a Pacific Northwest rump state is managing to sustain itself fairly well, while the South and Midwest are experiencing mass crop failures and and starvation. This… [[ArtisticLicenceGeography doesn’t make any sense]]. [[https://www.drought.gov/ Drought patterns]] in the US overlaid with its most [[https://www.usgs.gov/media/images/map-croplands-united-states arable farmland]] reveal the exact ''opposite'' scenario would occur, with just about everywhere west of the Rockies already on the path to become a drought and wildfire-stricken inferno, while the Midwest/Great Lakes region in particular is set to remain a critical North American breadbasket and would likely become the new center of civilization in a post-collapse USA.

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** The final episode describes a balkanized and climate change-stricken future US where a Pacific Northwest rump state is managing to sustain itself fairly well, while the South and Midwest are experiencing mass crop failures and failure and starvation. This… [[ArtisticLicenceGeography doesn’t make any sense]]. [[https://www.drought.gov/ Drought patterns]] in the US overlaid with its most [[https://www.usgs.gov/media/images/map-croplands-united-states arable farmland]] reveal the exact ''opposite'' scenario would occur, with just about everywhere west of the Rockies already on the path to become a drought and wildfire-stricken inferno, while the Midwest/Great Lakes region in particular is set to remain a critical North American breadbasket and would likely become the new center of civilization in a post-collapse USA.
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** Apart from a brief mention of the US’s fragile infrastructure in the first episode and the (incorrect) postwar scenario listed above, the podcast largely ignores the downright ''catastrophic'' supply chain disruption, collapse and re-consolidation that would inevitably occur during a nationwide civil war – the key decider of the outcome and the number one concern for the average American caught in the crossfire. Rebel-held cities are described as under siege from the US military and rural militias, for example, yet no mention is made of where said rebels are getting their food/potable water/meds/electricity/fuel/etc., practically to the point of ApocalypticLogistics. Evans, a veteran war correspondent, should ''really'' understand the overwhelming importance of supply lines in a war scenario.

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** Apart from a brief mention of the US’s fragile infrastructure in the first episode and the (incorrect) postwar scenario listed above, the podcast largely ignores the downright ''catastrophic'' supply chain disruption, collapse and re-consolidation that would inevitably occur during a nationwide civil war – the key decider of the outcome and the number one concern for the average American caught in the crossfire. Rebel-held cities are described as under siege from the US military and rural militias, for example, yet no mention is made of where said rebels are getting their food/potable water/meds/electricity/fuel/etc., practically to the point of ApocalypticLogistics. Evans, a veteran war correspondent, should ''really'' understand the overwhelming importance of supply lines in a war scenario.



* GaiasLament: Part of the downer ending above. The former United States is wrecked by the consequences of climate change (and the states that remain in the power vacuum are unable to deal with it as effectively as the federal government would have.) Wildfire season is said to be 6 months out of the year, the coastal areas are flooded by rising tides, and the South and Midwest are left uninhabitable by constant mudslides and tornadoes (Though see DanBrowned above for why this doesn't quite follow climate projections).

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* GaiasLament: Part of the downer ending above. The former United States is wrecked by the consequences of climate change (and the states that remain in the power vacuum are unable to deal with it as effectively as the federal government would have.) Wildfire season is said to be 6 months out of the year, the coastal areas are flooded by rising tides, and the South and Midwest are left uninhabitable by constant mudslides and tornadoes (Though see DanBrowned above for why this doesn't quite follow US climate projections).
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** The final episode’s second-person narrative vignette describes a balkanized and climate change-stricken future US where a Pacific Northwest rump state is managing to sustain itself fairly well, while the South and Midwest are experiencing mass famine and starvation. This… doesn’t make any sense. [[https://www.drought.gov/ Drought patterns]] in the US overlaid with its most [[https://www.usgs.gov/media/images/map-croplands-united-states arable farmland]] reveal the exact ''opposite'' scenario would occur, with just about everywhere west of the Rockies already on the path to become a drought and wildfire-stricken inferno, while the Midwest/Great Lakes region in particular is set to remain a critical North American breadbasket and would likely become the new centre of civilization in a post-collapse USA.
*** Considering the narration mentions the South and Midwest are controlled by far-right rump states and religious fanatics and spitefully notes the suffering of these regions' citizens can be seen as “karmic justice", this could also be an instance of AuthorTract crossed with CreatorProvincialism (Evans is based in Portland, OR).
** Apart from a brief mention of the US’s fragile infrastructure in the first episode and the (incorrect) postwar scenario listed above, the podcast largely ignores the downright ''catastrophic'' supply chain disruption, collapse and re-consolidation that would inevitably occur during a nationwide civil war – the key decider of the outcome and the number one concern for the average American caught in the crossfire. Rebel-held cities are described as under siege from the US military and rural militias, for example, yet no mention is made of where said rebels are getting their food/potable water/meds/electricity/fuel/etc., practically to the point of ApocalypticLogistics. Evans, a veteran war correspondent, should really understand the overwhelming importance of supply lines in a war scenario.

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** The final episode’s second-person narrative vignette episode describes a balkanized and climate change-stricken future US where a Pacific Northwest rump state is managing to sustain itself fairly well, while the South and Midwest are experiencing mass famine crop failures and and starvation. This… [[ArtisticLicenceGeography doesn’t make any sense.sense]]. [[https://www.drought.gov/ Drought patterns]] in the US overlaid with its most [[https://www.usgs.gov/media/images/map-croplands-united-states arable farmland]] reveal the exact ''opposite'' scenario would occur, with just about everywhere west of the Rockies already on the path to become a drought and wildfire-stricken inferno, while the Midwest/Great Lakes region in particular is set to remain a critical North American breadbasket and would likely become the new centre center of civilization in a post-collapse USA.
*** Considering the narration mentions states the South and Midwest are controlled by far-right rump states and religious fanatics and spitefully notes that the suffering of these regions' citizens can be seen as “karmic justice", this could also be an instance of AuthorTract crossed with CreatorProvincialism (Evans is based in Portland, OR).
** Apart from a brief mention of the US’s fragile infrastructure in the first episode and the (incorrect) postwar scenario listed above, the podcast largely ignores the downright ''catastrophic'' supply chain disruption, collapse and re-consolidation that would inevitably occur during a nationwide civil war – the key decider of the outcome and the number one concern for the average American caught in the crossfire. Rebel-held cities are described as under siege from the US military and rural militias, for example, yet no mention is made of where said rebels are getting their food/potable water/meds/electricity/fuel/etc., practically to the point of ApocalypticLogistics. Evans, a veteran war correspondent, should really ''really'' understand the overwhelming importance of supply lines in a war scenario.



* GaiasLament: Part of the downer ending above. The former United States is wrecked by the consequences of climate change (and the states that remain in the power vacuum are unable to deal with it as effectively as the federal government would have.) Wildfire season is said to be 6 months out of the year, the coastal areas are flooded by rising tides, and the South and Midwest are left uninhabitable by constant mudslides and tornadoes.

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* GaiasLament: Part of the downer ending above. The former United States is wrecked by the consequences of climate change (and the states that remain in the power vacuum are unable to deal with it as effectively as the federal government would have.) Wildfire season is said to be 6 months out of the year, the coastal areas are flooded by rising tides, and the South and Midwest are left uninhabitable by constant mudslides and tornadoes. tornadoes (Though see DanBrowned above for why this doesn't quite follow climate projections).
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* DanBrowned: For a podcast that cites a lot of sources, there are a number of rather glaring inaccuracies and omissions in the scenario outlined:

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* DanBrowned: For a podcast that cites a lot of sources, there are a number of rather glaring inaccuracies and omissions in the scenario outlined:omissions:
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** Apart from a brief mention of the US’s fragile infrastructure in the first episode and the (incorrect) postwar scenario listed above, the podcast largely ignores the downright ''catastrophic'' supply chain disruption, collapse and re-consolidation that would inevitably occur during a nationwide civil war – the key decider of the outcome and the number one concern for the average American caught in the crossfire. Rebel-held cities are described as under siege from the US military and rural militias, for example, yet no mention is made of where said rebels are getting their food/potable water/meds/electricity/fuel/etc., practically to the point of ApocalypticLogistics. Evans, a veteran war correspondent, should really understand and have played up accordingly the overwhelming importance of supply lines in a war scenario.
** The podcast also makes zero mention of reactions or interventions/interference from foreign powers, as if the US government wouldn’t call on its allies or if China, Russia and the rest of NATO would just idly stand by and watch as the world’s largest economy, most powerful and far-reaching military and holder of the global reserve currency tears itself apart. The only other country actively involved is Canada (they are said to supply weapons in one segment), and this Canadian troper can emphasize there’s almost zero chance Canada in its current state could survive a second US civil war, let alone halt or regulate millions of American refugees from flooding north as the podcast claims.

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** Apart from a brief mention of the US’s fragile infrastructure in the first episode and the (incorrect) postwar scenario listed above, the podcast largely ignores the downright ''catastrophic'' supply chain disruption, collapse and re-consolidation that would inevitably occur during a nationwide civil war – the key decider of the outcome and the number one concern for the average American caught in the crossfire. Rebel-held cities are described as under siege from the US military and rural militias, for example, yet no mention is made of where said rebels are getting their food/potable water/meds/electricity/fuel/etc., practically to the point of ApocalypticLogistics. Evans, a veteran war correspondent, should really understand and have played up accordingly the overwhelming importance of supply lines in a war scenario.
** The podcast also makes zero mention of reactions or interventions/interference from foreign powers, as if the US government or rebels wouldn’t call on its allies for help or if China, Russia and the rest of NATO would just idly stand by and watch as the world’s largest economy, most powerful and far-reaching military and holder of the global reserve currency tears itself apart. The only other country actively involved is Canada (they are said to supply weapons in one segment), and this Canadian troper can emphasize there’s almost zero chance Canada in its current state could even survive a second US civil war, let alone halt or regulate millions of American refugees from flooding north as the podcast claims.
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* DanBrowned: For a podcast that cites a lot of sources, there are a number of rather glaring inaccuracies and omissions in the scenario outlined:
** The final episode’s second-person narrative vignette describes a balkanized and climate change-stricken future US where a Pacific Northwest rump state is managing to sustain itself fairly well, while the South and Midwest are experiencing mass famine and starvation. This… doesn’t make any sense. [[https://www.drought.gov/ Drought patterns]] in the US overlaid with its most [[https://www.usgs.gov/media/images/map-croplands-united-states arable farmland]] reveal the exact ''opposite'' scenario would occur, with just about everywhere west of the Rockies already on the path to become a drought and wildfire-stricken inferno, while the Midwest/Great Lakes region in particular is set to remain a critical North American breadbasket and would likely become the new centre of civilization in a post-collapse USA.
*** Considering the narration mentions the South and Midwest are controlled by far-right rump states and religious fanatics and spitefully notes the suffering of these regions' citizens can be seen as “karmic justice", this could also be an instance of AuthorTract crossed with CreatorProvincialism (Evans is based in Portland, OR).
** Apart from a brief mention of the US’s fragile infrastructure in the first episode and the (incorrect) postwar scenario listed above, the podcast largely ignores the downright ''catastrophic'' supply chain disruption, collapse and re-consolidation that would inevitably occur during a nationwide civil war – the key decider of the outcome and the number one concern for the average American caught in the crossfire. Rebel-held cities are described as under siege from the US military and rural militias, for example, yet no mention is made of where said rebels are getting their food/potable water/meds/electricity/fuel/etc., practically to the point of ApocalypticLogistics. Evans, a veteran war correspondent, should really understand and have played up accordingly the overwhelming importance of supply lines in a war scenario.
** The podcast also makes zero mention of reactions or interventions/interference from foreign powers, as if the US government wouldn’t call on its allies or if China, Russia and the rest of NATO would just idly stand by and watch as the world’s largest economy, most powerful and far-reaching military and holder of the global reserve currency tears itself apart. The only other country actively involved is Canada (they are said to supply weapons in one segment), and this Canadian troper can emphasize there’s almost zero chance Canada in its current state could survive a second US civil war, let alone halt or regulate millions of American refugees from flooding north as the podcast claims.

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